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How the Light Gets In
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In the greatest tenth podcast episode ever, Haven talks to her favorite musician/musical theater actor/Lovely Human with a Gorgeous Voice, Nadim Naaman.
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In a very random and unhinged episode, Haven catches up with his brother on all the things she's missed.
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Haven talks to freelance journalist Andy Engelson about the complexities of freelancing (both good and bad), being a queer person in the current state of this country, and the importance of staying in community.
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In this episode, Haven talks with poet Kyle Hulehan about poetry, deconstructing, trauma, and healing.
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In this episode, Haven talks to Mary of MB Art Studios about art, creating, and how both can help you get through a lot in life.
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In a fifth episode that is truly #lifegoals, Haven talks to one of her favorite people, science journalist with Radiolab Latif Nasser, about the stories and nuance behind science and journalism, how he's able to do ALL the cool things he does, and most importantly: poop.
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In this episode, Haven has a conversation with advocate Amanda Jetté Knox, ranging from dogs to transphobia, to who makes the coffee in the morning.
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In this episode, Haven talks to David Hayward, better known as NakedPastor, about deconstructing faith, art as a way of expressing thought, and questioning as a way of life.
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In this episode, Haven talks to Megan Rohrer (he/they); the first openly trans person elected in the Lutheran church. They talk about being queer, as well as people of faith, and Megan's experiences being in a queer marriage, being a queer parent, and a faith leader.
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In this first episode of How the Light Gets In, I talk to my friend (and former counselor) Will Summers. We have a conversation that spans from the LGBTQ space where we met, how he ended up in Yakima, and our mutual love for Rumi, Haidt, and viewpoint diversity.



