Genesis Marks the Spot

In Genesis 6, how do we get from “sons of God and daughters of men” to a world “filled with violence”—without leaning on 1 Enoch as the primary interpretive lens? In this episode, Carey builds an intra-biblical case that follows Scripture’s own narrative logic: the issue isn’t “giant genetics” or DNA speculation, but a tangled moral ecology where worship disorder, sexual boundary-crossing, oppression/injustice, and bloodshed belong to the same web of corruption. We also trace how the prophets (especially Ezekiel) routinely pair idolatry and violence in the same indictment, helping us see how Scripture itself connects vertical worship and horizontal ethics. What you’ll find in this episode: Why an intra-biblical approach can still land on a supernatural reading of “sons of God,” without importing later Second Temple details as the controlling frame. Why the “through line” to the flood is not genetics, even though procreation is in the story. The recurring biblical “package deal”: false worship ↔ injustice/oppression ↔ violence/bloodshed ↔ sexual immorality, all functioning as covenant pollution. Why “blotting out” signals removal/unmaking, not just retribution—and why creation itself is portrayed as impacted by human corruption. Salvation and deliverance aren’t in human systems or self-repair, but in Christ alone (Acts 4:12). Scripture & passages referenced (highlights)Genesis 6; Ezekiel 8–9; Ezekiel 22; Leviticus 18; Numbers 35; Deuteronomy 9, 18, 29; Habakkuk 2; Numbers 25; Psalm 82; Acts 4:12. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan Chapters (00:00:00) - Genesis 6 without extra-biblical “control”(00:02:21) - The through-line to flood violence (it’s not “DNA”)(00:06:05) - Formation/deformation: how false worship distorts the image(00:10:07) - Ancient “institutional worship”: you couldn’t just opt out(00:15:19) - Patterns, not systems(00:17:34) - Ezekiel 8: temple abominations and violence(00:20:23) - Back to Genesis 6: Not letting humanity off the hook(00:27:54) - Genesis 6:7: “blot out” vs “destroy”(00:32:08) - Genesis 6:11–12: “corrupt” + “filled with violence” as a moral ecology(00:36:53) - Land pollution texts: Leviticus 18, Numbers 35, Deuteronomy(00:45:01) - Ezekiel’s flood-logic: worship disorder produces societal violence(00:50:43) - Pulling it together: spiritual + human causality, layered not competing(01:00:08) - Psalm 82 and justice: why “justice talk” still sits inside worship realities(01:01:35) - Acts 4:12: salvation and deliverance in Christ alone

In the finale of the Fire series, Carey traces eschatological fire across Scripture—not as a single “hellfire” image, but as a matrix of scenes where fire unveils, judges, purifies, and ultimately makes creation fit for God’s presence. We start with Daniel 7, where fire is judicial theophany: God’s flaming throne, the opened books, and the public verdict against beastly dominion. Then Zephaniah 3 reframes fire as the jealous flame of covenant holiness—wrath that consumes and then leads to purified speech and unified worship among the nations. From there, 2 Peter 3 expands the horizon to the whole cosmos: fire that exposes and dissolves the old order on the way to new heavens and a new earth. Finally, Revelation 20–22 places the lake of fire and the “second death” beside the arrival of New Jerusalem, with death itself thrown down and the nations healed. Carey also explains why faithful Christians land in different places on final judgment—Eternal Conscious Torment, Conditional Immortality (Annihilation), and Universal Reconciliation—and argues we can’t shortcut the debate without first mapping what each text is doing with “fire.” Download the 40+ page study guide (link in the episode notes) for passage lists, questions to take into your own study, and a framework for reading these texts carefully. In this episode Five questions for reading end-times “fire” texts Daniel 7: fire as courtroom unveiling + verdict Zephaniah 3: jealous fire, nations gathered, purified lips, “one shoulder” worship 2 Peter 3: cosmic fire, exposure, holiness now, new creation Revelation 20–22: lake of fire, second death, death defeated, healing for the nations Why Christians “join” or “split” apocalyptic images differently (Heiser’s framing) Companion episode: Episode 55 (on Gehenna / Sheol / related “hell” imagery). STUDY GUIDE for this week's episode!: Study Guide: Fire Imagery, Judgment, and New Creation in Scripture   On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Study guide mention + 3 major afterlife views(00:04:09) - Core question: Day of the Lord, hell fire, and why views differ(00:06:25) - Five interpretive questions for “end-times fire” texts(00:07:42) - Daniel 7: courtroom fire as judicial theophany(00:10:56) - Holy ones / Divine Council angle(00:15:06) - Retribution and restoration in Daniel 7(00:18:00) - Zephaniah 3: jealous fire + wrath(00:27:08) - “Seek Yahweh”: from retribution to restoration(00:31:03) - 2 Peter 3: cosmic fire and holiness now(00:37:26) - Revelation 20: lake of fire, final judgment(00:44:03) - Revelation 21: restoration promises(00:50:15) - Worship, oppression, deception: who bears responsibility?(00:53:59) - Summary: Day-of-the-Lord fire = unveiling God’s reign(00:55:25) - ECT / CI / UR: Matthew 25 + Mark 9(00:59:07) - Heiser “joiner vs splitter”: interpretive moves for eschatological imagery(01:03:28) - What each view “privileges”

In this episode, Carey connects the “fire series” to a bigger question: what does it mean for God’s holy presence to be “distributed” through the Church—and even into the world—often in spite of us? From Genesis to Pentecost to Paul’s “corporate temple” language, we explore how God’s glory spreads through a holy people, and why the refiner’s fire is not just about individual sin—but about community formation, church worldliness, and shared discipleship. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Glory filling the earth as a creation purpose (Genesis 1; Habakkuk 2:14) Pentecost as Sinai-going-public: Spirit fire, covenant presence, and commissioning Why the Church isn’t a bunch of private temples: one Spirit, one holy dwelling Refiner’s fire as compatibility with holiness: exposure + purging, not mere “punishment” Malachi 3 and the “prosperity gospel” misunderstanding: corporate justice and care for the poor “Milk vs. solid food” as a formation diagnosis, not only an education level Why the “marketplace of ideas” is never neutral: it forms desires, attention, identity, and instincts Practical implications: treat community life as sacred space, pursue unity, justice, integrity—without moral superiority Scriptures referenced Genesis 1:26–28; Habakkuk 2:14; Acts 2; 1 Corinthians 3; Ephesians 2:19–22; 1 Peter 2:9–10; 1 Corinthians 6:19–20; Malachi 3; Hebrews 5:11–14 (and additional allusions to Acts 17; Jeremiah 29; “salt and light”). On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - The Big Question: God’s Holy Fire “Distributed”(00:02:29) - Beyond Individualism: Identity, Community, and Tribalism(00:10:17) - Refiner’s Fire as Communal Formation(00:12:48) - The Church Was Always the Point: Setting the Biblical Arc(00:14:55) - Pentecost as Sinai Going Public(00:17:01) - One Spirit, One Temple: The Corporate Dwelling(00:22:46) - What Gets Burned Up: Fire Reveals and Purges(00:29:45) - What Fire Exposes: Idols, Factions, Falsehood, Straw(00:34:55) - Present Refining vs “The Day”: Vindication and Judgment(00:38:32) - Milk vs Meat: A Formation Diagnosis (Not Just “Education”)(00:47:37) - No Neutral Space: Formation in the Marketplace of Ideas

Where do we actually see atonement in Genesis—before the Levitical system even exists? In this episode, Carey uses frame semantics to map the Hebrew “atonement” word-group (kipper and its conceptual neighborhood) across the Torah, then searches Genesis for both the explicit word and strong conceptual rhymes. Along the way, we challenge the assumption that “atonement” means penal forgiveness. Instead, we explore atonement as functional repair—keeping God’s dwelling space fit for his presence—and the wider matrix that includes cleansing, washing, reparations, and relational restoration. Key moves in the episode: A quick framework for “atonement” in Torah: problem → agent → means → wording → result. Why Genesis can legitimately be read with Levitical concepts in mind (without forcing later theology backward). Genesis “touchpoints,” including: Noah’s ark “covering” with pitch (Genesis 6:14) and why “cover” here signals protection, not hiding. Jacob “appeasing” Esau with gifts (Genesis 32:20) as the first clear use of atonement language—relational, non-blood, non-judicial. How a “relational repair” lens changes what we notice across Genesis narratives. Join the conversation: Carey first worked through this as a livestream inside the On This Rock biblical theology community—and an upcoming study will deep-dive atonement themes using Lamb of the Free. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Atonement as functional repair (holiness/purity ≠ courtroom)(00:04:55) - Framing “atonement” (kipper) with frame semantics(00:07:25) - The atonement “cast”: agents, actions, and Exodus 32(00:11:18) - Bloodguilt & land pollution (Numbers 35)(00:14:56) - Process + results: means, directionality, cleansing/forgiveness(00:20:55) - How to spot atonement frames in Genesis (method questions)(00:30:24) - Atonement, forgiveness, righteousness, and “restoring shalom”(00:31:54) - Genesis 1-2: in the beginning was atonement?(00:35:24) - Genesis 3: garments of skin (mercy/covering, not penal)(00:39:21) - Adam / blood wordplay + challenging our default assumptions(00:41:10) - Genesis 4: Cain & Abel (blood cries out; no expected “penal” outcome)(00:43:41) - Genesis 6: “cover the ark with pitch” (kapar/covering as protection)(00:46:23) - Genesis 8: post-flood offering (not appeasing judgment)(00:48:03) - Genesis 15 and 18: covenant blood logic + Abraham’s intercession(00:49:51) - Genesis 22: binding of Isaac (covenant track vs purification track)(00:52:57) - Genesis 27 → 32: substitution dynamics, then actual “appease/atonement”(00:56:45) - Joseph story: gifts/ransom language → reconciliation(01:00:07) - Guardrails: anchor in the text

This week, Carey continues the Purity Series by digging into Matthew Thiessen’s Jesus and the Forces of Death: The Gospels’ Portrayal of Ritual Impurity within First-Century Judaism—and uses it as a springboard to talk about atonement, purification, and why “apocalypse” is not just end-times hype. A core thread: modern readers (and plenty of scholars) often read Jesus as if he’s against Jewish purity, when the Gospels actually portray him as rescuing people from the forces of ritual impurity—with a “contagious holiness” that overwhelms impurity at its source. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Why we misread the Gospels when we unconsciously import our modern conceptual world into a first-century purity framework (a frame-semantics problem) The common scholarly false dichotomy: “Jewish holiness vs Jesus’ mercy,” and why it fails A helpful map for thinking clearly: holy/profane (common) and pure/impure as distinct-but-related categories Why “ritual impurity vs moral impurity” can be a useful discussion tool—but isn’t quite a clean biblical taxonomy “Death-logic,” sacred space, and why childbirth (surprisingly) gets pulled into the conversation How this connects to Genesis (childbirth, Eden as sacred space, exile from the presence, Sabbath, and the start of death) Demonic impurity / unclean spirits: why Genesis 6/Nephilim and 1 Enoch matter, but don’t “solve” everything—and why you have to account for broader ancient exorcism Apocalyptic vs prophetic genre: prophecy as covenant lawsuit and warning to rebels; apocalypse as hope for the faithful and God “breaking in” A bridge into the atonement conversation: how “atonement” language can mean purification/purgation of sacred space, and how that differs from broader “at-one-ment” reconciliation talk Referenced Matthew Thiessen, Jesus and the Forces of Death   Andrew Rillera, Lamb of the Free (and the PSA conversation) Jacob Milgrom and “death-logic” Join the study (On This Rock) Carey is formally kicking off a deep-dive study of Lamb of the Free in January 2026, with recorded Zoom discussions and supporting visuals/charts; the study is for paid members (noted as $5/month in the episode) On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/ Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Win... Chapters (00:00:00) - Thiessen, purity, atonement, apocalypse vs prophecy(00:04:37) - The big misread: “Jesus vs Jewish purity”(00:08:52) - Unclean spirits, sickness/wholeness, and why “unclean” is a category worth studying(00:12:37) - Jesus vs the forces of death (impurity, conflict, cross, resurrection)(00:13:28) - PSA debates and why Lamb of the Free is in this conversation(00:16:51) - “Atonement”: at-one-ment vs purification/purgation (word-logic matters)(00:19:12) - Invite: the Lamb of the Free study group on On This Rock(00:21:24) - Genesis Marks the Spot: death, child birth, sacred space, exile, Sabbath(00:25:25) - Genesis as “proto” + why Leviticus becomes essential(00:26:12) - Two binaries: holy/common and pure/impure(00:31:07) - Ritual vs moral impurity: helpful distinction, messy taxonomy(00:34:31) - “Death logic” (Milgrom), chaos/order, and why impurity matters(00:40:14) - Childbirth, blood, and why “death” gets linked to impurity(00:44:45) - Apocalypse: what it is (and isn’t) + why genre matters(00:54:58) - Eschatology reflections: prophecy vs apocalypse(00:59:19) - Demonic impurity beyond 1 Enoch: demons, bodies, exorcism, and kingdom signs

In this episode of Genesis Marks the Spot, Carey sits down with Courtney Trotter of Kairos Classroom for a deep-dive into how Scripture portrays God’s appearances—especially the debated “Angel of the LORD,” and the often-overlooked manifestations of the Holy Spirit. Courtney outlines a helpful taxonomy (aural, phenomenological, and embodied theophanies) and explains how these encounters operate across “tiers” of experience—earthly, heavenly vision from earth, and heavenly vision in the heavenly realm. Together, Carey and Courtney explore why this matters for Trinitarian theology (including how Augustine’s approach shifted Western instincts, and how Luther/Calvin helped repopularize a Christophany reading), and why it matters for worship, embodiment, and daily Christian life—especially in an age tempted toward “functional deism.” In this conversation: What a theophany is—and why the “Angel of the LORD” question isn’t a side issue A practical framework for how God appears in Scripture (aural / phenomenological / embodied + where the experiencer is) Spirit theophanies as wind/breath/fire: Genesis 1 and Exodus 14 as “Breath/Wind/Spirit” readings The fire-thread: Sinai fire, temple presence, exile traditions, Hanukkah (2 Maccabees 2), and Pentecost as “fire moving outward” Why John’s Gospel presses the issue (“that was me” logic tied to Abraham/Isaiah/Jacob patterns) and how that connects to the Transfiguration A key scholarly prompt: Benjamin Sommer’s argument that a “God with an earthly body… and a heavenly manifestation” is a perfectly Jewish model (and why that matters for Christian claims) Why this isn’t “too mystical”: seeing creation as an arena for encounter, not mere “resources” Referenced / mentioned in the episode: Courtney Trotter’s Kairos Classroom (Greek & Hebrew instruction): Kairos Classroom  Benjamin Sommer, The Bodies of God in Ancient Israel C.S. Lewis, The Discarded Image 2 Maccabees 2 (the preserved fire tradition) On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Theophanies, Angel of the LORD, and Spirit manifestations(00:04:57) - Intro: Courtney Trotter (Kairos Classroom)(00:07:06) - Theophany taxonomy + the “three tiers” framework(00:09:21) - Are embodied theophanies pre-incarnate Logos?(00:20:30) - Sinai fire → altar/temple → exile/Hanukkah → Pentecost → Revelation lampstands(00:27:29) - Benjamin Sommer and the Jewishness of theophanies and Spirit manifestations(00:45:08) - Incarnation uniqueness + “time traveling Jesus?”(00:55:31) - Rabbinic commentary on the “Great Angel” of Genesis 22

In this episode we head back into Genesis 6 and ask what it means that Noah was “blameless in his generations.” Is this about genetic purity and Nephilim DNA… or about covenant faithfulness in a violently corrupt world? Working through the structure of Genesis, ancient “ancestor epics,” and the toledoth of Adam and Noah, Carey explores how Genesis 6 sets up a pattern that runs through the prophets and into the New Testament: idolatry → corruption → violence → judgment… with a righteous remnant preserved. Along the way, she interacts with Sandra Richter’s “primeval sons of God” view, nuances Michael Heiser’s “three rebellions” framework, and pushes back against the Christian Supernatural Entertainment Complex’s obsession with hybrid DNA and racialized readings of the Nephilim. You’ll hear how: “Generations” in Genesis 6 uses two different Hebrew words (toledoth vs Noah’s “blamelessness”), and why that matters. Noah’s “without defect” language echoes cultic purity and covenant wholeness, not lab-grade genetics. The flood narrative prototypes the idolatry → corruption → violence → judgment pattern seen in Ezekiel, Amos, Hosea, Habakkuk, and Romans 1. The Nephilim, “men of the name,” and hero cults connect Genesis 6 with Babel, Deuteronomy 32, and Second Temple traditions (apkallu, Enoch, Rephaim). Why over-focusing on supernatural beings can distract from human responsibility, justice, and repentance—and how Noah models a different way of walking with God. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/  Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Back to Genesis 6: Noah, Purity, and Corruption(00:03:19) - Toledoth, Ancestor Epics, and the Structure of Genesis(00:07:31) - Who Are the “Sons of God”? Richter, Heiser, and Human Responsibility(00:12:25) - “Blameless in His Generations”: Ethics, Cultic Purity, or DNA?(00:21:20) - Corruption, Violence (ḥamas), and Noah as Ethical Contrast(00:31:28) - Heiser's Description of the Three Rebellions(00:40:54) - From Idolatry to Corruption: The Prophetic Pattern(00:49:12) - Primeval History as Template: Israel Recapitulates Noah’s World(00:55:12) - Nephilim, Hero Cults, and the Origins of Idolatry(01:03:07) - Purity, Worship, and Why Noah’s Blamelessness Still Matters Today

In this episode, Carey continues the fire in Scripture series by following the holy fire of God into the furnace—where His presence purifies without consuming. We trace how Isaiah and Daniel picture God’s burning holiness as both judgment and safety, a place where the faithful can actually live inside the fire without being destroyed. Using frame semantics and the idea of sensus plenior (“fuller sense”), we explore how Scripture’s meaning develops without contradiction, moving from Torah’s guarded nearness to God, through exile and restoration, into the incarnation, resurrection, Pentecost, and the church’s baptism “with the Holy Spirit and fire.” We look at key passages in Isaiah 4, 6, 30, and 63 alongside Daniel 3, 7, and 12 to show how God’s jealous love guards, guides, evaluates, and refines His people. Trials are not signs of abandonment but a refining furnace that exposes and burns away what cannot live in God’s presence—while preserving and beautifying what can. We then bring this all the way to the New Testament: Hebrews, 1 Corinthians 3, 1 Peter, and Matthew 3’s promise that Jesus will baptize “with the Holy Spirit and fire.” What does it mean to be baptized into the One who dwells in the fire? How can the church live near the consuming fire of Hebrews 12 without being consumed? And how do suffering, repentance, and our everyday choices fit into that larger frame of glory, presence, and purification? If you’ve wrestled with judgment, suffering, or the fear of “not doing enough” in repentance, this episode will help reframe those fears inside the story of God’s refining love—and why baptism belongs inside the fire-and-glory framework rather than outside of it. In this episode, we explore: How frame semantics helps us see “fire” as a family of frames: boundary, guarding, purification/furnace, guidance, glory, and judgment Isaiah 6 as a divine council scene where holy fire purifies Isaiah’s lips and commissions him rather than destroying him Isaiah 4, 30, and 63 as pictures of in-house purification, guidance, and God’s breath/Spirit as burning, judging, and leading presence Daniel 3 and the fiery furnace: why Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego can live in the flames with the “one like a son of the gods” Daniel 7 & 12: the Son of Man, rivers of fire, judgment of the beasts, and the shining resurrection hope of the wise How sensus plenior works: later Scripture doesn’t contradict earlier Scripture, but fills out seeds already planted Why trials and suffering in the New Testament function as a refining furnace rather than a sign that God has abandoned us 1 Corinthians 3 and 1 Peter 4: judgment beginning with the household of God, and works tested “as through fire” Matthew 3:11–12 and what it means that Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit and fire Baptism as participation in Christ’s indwelling fire—where the person is not consumed, but the unfit things are burned away On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s websit... Chapters (00:00:00) - Hermeneutic Corner: Sensus Plenior & Fire(00:10:24) - Isaiah 6: Holy Fire, Purification, and Calling(00:17:32) - Isaiah 4: In-House Purification & Spirit of Burning(00:22:31) - Isaiah 30 & 63: Judgment, Guidance, and Spirit-Led Exile Living(00:35:21) - Daniel 3: The Fiery Furnace & Living Inside the Flames(00:39:05) - Daniel 7 & 12: Son of Man, Rivers of Fire, and Resurrection Hope(00:47:53) - From Daniel to Jesus: Fire Brought Near in the New Testament(00:52:35) - Drawing Near to the Consuming Fire Today(00:57:17) - Judgment Begins with the Household of God(01:01:43) - Baptism and the Furnace of God’s Presence

What if fire really does fall from heaven…and the nation still doesn’t change? In this episode, Carey walks through Elijah’s showdown with Baal, the prophetic lawsuit pattern, Psalm 82, and how Jesus redirects our zeal so we don’t weaponize “calling down fire” today. In this Fire series episode, we step onto Mount Carmel and into the divine courtroom. Elijah calls down fire, Baal stays silent, the people shout “Yahweh is God!”—and yet the monarchy doesn’t change, Jezebel still hunts Elijah, and injustice continues. We trace how this scene works as a prophetic lawsuit rooted in the covenant of Deuteronomy, how it mirrors Psalm 82’s divine council courtroom, and why public spectacle can expose idols but can’t regenerate hearts. Along the way, we explore the difference between magic and covenant obedience, Baal’s “silence,” and why Carmel doesn’t mean rival powers don’t exist. The episode then jumps forward to 2 Kings 1 and Luke 9, where Elijah’s script is picked up—and corrected—by Jesus. The disciples want to call down fire on a Samaritan village; Jesus rebukes them and re-orders zeal under his timing, his mission, and his authority. If you’ve ever wished God would “just show up” with a big miracle to settle everything—or been tempted to weaponize judgment texts against your enemies—this conversation on holiness, power, and posture is for you. In this episode we: Frame the Fire series in terms of God as consuming, jealous love Unpack Elijah at Mount Carmel (1 Kings 18) as a prophetic lawsuit Connect covenant drought, Baal’s failure, and Yahweh’s fire as legal evidence Read Psalm 82 alongside Carmel as a divine council courtroom scene Explore why spectacle can expose idols but can’t legislate heart change Distinguish magic-technique vs. covenant obedience in Elijah’s actions Clarify idols vs. gods and why Baal’s silence doesn’t equal non-existence Follow Elijah to Horeb (1 Kings 19) and the remnant that didn’t bow to Baal Walk through 2 Kings 1 and the captains of fifty as a case study in posture Watch Jesus reorient Elijah-style fire in Luke 9 and Luke 10 Reflect on James 1 and what meekness, anger, and “strength under authority” look like Consider what it means for us to act as God’s hands and feet without hijacking his judgment On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Why We'll “Skip” Exodus–Leviticus(00:02:02) - Elijah and the Ethics of Power(00:07:45) - Covenant Drought, Baal Worship, and Setting Mount Carmel(00:10:15) - 1 Kings 18: Elijah vs. the Prophets of Baal(00:21:41) - The Prophetic Courtroom: Claim, Evidence, Verdict, Sentence(00:24:11) - Psalm 82, Deuteronomy 32, and the Cosmic Ethics of Power(00:27:01) - What Fire from Heaven Can (and Can’t) Do(00:28:32) - Magic vs. Covenant: Technique, Obedience, and Yahweh’s Turf(00:31:15) - Idols, Gods, and Why Baal’s Silence Isn’t Non-Existence(00:34:48) - Elijah at Horeb: Remnant, Whisper, and God’s Pursuit of Hearts(00:38:44) - 2 Kings 1: Captains of Fifty and the Ethics of Calling Down Fire(00:44:36) - Jesus, James & John: When Not to Torch the Samaritan Village(00:51:40) - Meekness, Anger, and Acting Under God’s Authority Today(00:56:49) - Unseen Realm, Holiness as Fire, and Living Under God’s Jurisdiction

In this episode of Genesis Marks the Spot, Carey continues tracing the theme of fire through Scripture—this time by pairing it with the biblical theme of glory and the language of God as a “consuming fire” and “jealous God.” We explore how glory functions as weight, radiance, presence, boundary, purification, guidance, evaluation, and honor—and how fire shows one way those realities are enacted. Walking through key passages like Deuteronomy 4, Exodus 13–14, Numbers 9, and Hebrews 12, demonstrates how God’s jealous love guards covenant loyalty, guides His people, and exposes what cannot survive His holy presence. Along the way, we situate these texts in a Divine Council framework and wrestle with different readings of the “allotment of the nations.” Finally, we step into the water–fire–Spirit framework of baptism: how the flood, the Red Sea, and Pentecost help us see baptism not just as a declaration of allegiance, but as a boundary marker, a call into sanctification, and an invitation to live near holy love without being consumed. You’ll also hear about a Frame Semantics Study Guide on Glory & Fire, created to help you visualize the overlapping frames that Carey describes throughout the episode. In this episode, we explore: Why glory is more than “brightness”—it’s God’s gravity, weight, and worth How glory and fire overlap but are not identical (glory answers why, fire answers how) Deuteronomy 4’s “consuming fire and jealous God” in light of the Divine Council Several textually plausible options for what it means that the nations are “allotted” to the heavenly host—and why Carey leans toward a “handing over” reading The pillar of cloud and fire as a moving fence, guide, and protector in Exodus and Numbers Hebrews 12’s contrast between Sinai and Zion, and why “acceptable worship with reverence and awe” still matters for the church How baptism sits inside a broader water–fire–Spirit pattern: flood, Red Sea, Spirit as distributed fire, sanctification as a furnace Why baptism is more than a finish line—it enrolls us into a space where God’s jealous love guards, purifies, and forms us for communion and mission Resources mentioned: Frame Semantics Study Guide on Glory & Fire: God is a Consuming Fire: How “Glory” and “Fire” Frames Help You Read the Bible  Carey’s broader Frame Semantics Study Guide can be found here. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/ Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/... Chapters (00:00:00) - Fire Theme, Biblical Theology & Resources(00:03:23) - Glory as Weight, Radiance, Presence & Boundary(00:17:14) - Purification, Guidance & Honor: Overlapping Glory Frames(00:22:23) - How Fire Frames Relate to Glory(00:26:22) - Deuteronomy 4: Consuming Fire and Jealous God(00:29:52) - Divine Council and the Allotment of the Nations(00:44:25) - Exodus and Numbers: The Mobile Pillar of Fire and Cloud(00:51:09) - Hebrews 12: Sinai, Zion and Acceptable Worship(00:55:57) - Baptism in the Water–Fire–Spirit Framework

This episode launches a new mini-series on the theme of fire in Scripture and how it works as more than just a judgment or “end times” metaphor. Fire marks boundaries, tests fitness for nearness, guards holy space, and signals God’s own presence with His people. Starting at the flaming sword of Eden, Carey traces how fire shows up as a guardian of sacred space, a refining presence, and a covenant sign—from Noah’s burnt offerings and Abram’s smoking firepot to Moses and the burning bush. Along the way, she draws on frame semantics to help us see fire not as a single symbol, but as a cluster of overlapping frames: guardian, purifier, theophany, judgment, empowerment. We also explore some fascinating scholarly debates about Genesis 3:24: Is the flaming sword just a weapon… or a spiritual being in its own right? How do ancient Near Eastern parallels and Psalm 104 factor in? What do later readings like the Targums suggest about God’s presence “east of Eden”? From Cain and Abel to Noah, Abram’s covenant ceremony, and Moses at the burning bush, this episode asks: What counts as a boundary in these stories? What makes someone fit to draw near? How do judgment and mercy belong together in God’s fiery presence? Finally, these themes connect to the bigger biblical story of glory, conquest, and God’s dangerous-yet-merciful nearness—with an invitation to go hunting for fire imagery in your own studies, using word studies as a launchpad but not the destination. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/ Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: Chapters (00:00:00) - Why Fire is a Burning Topic(00:04:26) - Flaming Sword of Eden: Judgment or Mercy?(00:11:17) - Divine Council Readings: Is the Sword a Spiritual Being?(00:21:24) - Targums and Divine Presence(00:28:21) - Fire, Boundaries, and Sacrifice I: Cain and Abel(00:32:59) - Fire, Boundaries, and Sacrifice II: Noah(00:38:08) - Covenant by Fire: Abram’s Vision and the Smoking Firepot(00:43:46) - Names, Circumcision, and Ishmael in the Promise(00:49:01) - The Burning Bush: Holy Ground and a Reluctant Prophet(00:54:01) - Glory and Word Studies

In this sweeping synthesis episode, Carey zooms out from Mesopotamian exorcism texts to contrast ancient magic/technique with the Bible’s holiness/presence frame. We explore how Scripture attributes sickness and calamity to God’s covenant governance (not a sprawling demonology), why ritual ≠ incantation, and how protection language (Psalm 91) differs when it’s used as prayerful trust rather than magical leverage. We also trace Passover’s blood as sign of covenant loyalty (protection for presence) versus pagan apotropaic rites (protection from volatile powers), and we re-situate baptism as incorporation into a purified people indwelt by the Spirit. Along the way: John Walton on conflict theology, Heiser’s take on Psalm 91 and the “evil eye,” Egypt’s maat, Hittite purity, and the danger of the sacred. We finish by reframing discipleship around holiness first, not death first—so that ethics flow from presence, not technique. Resources & references mentioned Psalm 91 and Jesus’ temptation (Matt 4); Heiser’s Naked Bible episodes on Psalm 91 & “evil eye” (ep. 162 and 321 referenced). Udug-hul Tablet 12; Shurpu confessional series; Egypt’s maat; Hittite rituals and kings. Community note In November 2025 the On This Rock community is discussing the church—join the conversation; link in show notes. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/  Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: Chapters (00:00:00) - Agency & sickness(00:05:36) - Ritual vs technique(00:07:21) - Psalm 91 & the “evil eye”(00:09:07) - Guarding against “magical drift”(00:15:25) - Holiness-first ethics(00:18:49) - Baptism in the holiness frame(00:22:37) - Plague & providence(00:25:30) - Priest vs healer roles(00:27:12) - Shurpu confessions & fire(00:32:49) - Incantation vs prayer(00:36:22) - Divination & technique creep(00:41:02) - Jesus’ temptation and amulets(00:44:43) - Comparing Egypt and Israel(00:50:31) - The danger of the sacred(00:59:32) - Holiness that transforms

Concluding the mini-series reading from Udug-hul (Udug-hul) Tablet 12, a Mesopotamian exorcism/purification text, and tracing how a single goat in this ritual ends up doing several jobs—substitute, container of breath, apotropaic object, and finally the thing that carries evil away. From there, Carey compares the logic of the text with Leviticus 16 (Day of Atonement) and Numbers 19 (red heifer) and asks the hard question: where’s the line between ritual and magic? The answer is more nuanced than “the Bible isn’t magical.” Sometimes the Bible does very ANE-looking things—but without trying to force the deity. We also see that Mesopotamia loved protective objects (bells, cords, incense, figurines, “good” demons) and how Israel’s Scriptures both fit into and flip that world. What we cover Quick recap of the first two episodes in this series Reading the next section of Tablet 12 (the “one goat doing many jobs” part) Apotropaic magic 101: bells, cords, circles, incantations, and why people felt vulnerable Why Mesopotamia can use the same class of being (storm demon) for harm or healing Parallels and contrasts with Leviticus 16 and Numbers 19 “You don’t do a ritual if you don’t think it does something” — but what kind of “something”? How Israel’s rituals purify space without acting like they’re trapping a stray demon The seven protective figures and divine-council overtones A pastoral-ish landing: how might Christians still hedge their bets with low-key magical thinking? On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://ww... Chapters (00:00:00) - Re-reading the scapegoat section(00:03:21) - Magic vs ritual refresher(00:08:59) - Biblical parallels: Leviticus 16 and Numbers 19(00:16:14) - Water, radiance, and binding the goat to the patient(00:23:30) - Containment and boundary-making around the bed(00:30:03) - Naming the demons and sending them to the netherworld(00:35:06) - Temple statue, sunrise, craftsman, and mediation layers(00:45:44) - The seven protective storm demons by city(00:51:56) - Fire, fat, milk, wrestlers, and threshold protection(00:57:47) - Recap of ritual logic

This episode continues last week’s deep dive (Ep. 149) into Udug-hul Tablet 12, exploring how ancient Mesopotamians understood purity, sacred space, demons, and ritual—and how that compares (and collides) with the Bible’s worldview. Carey walks through Ea (Enki), Marduk, Belet-ili, Eridu, decreed destinies, and a striking black-goat “scapegoat” rite tied to breath, life, and expulsion—then turns to the big question: what’s the difference between magic and ritual for Christians, and how does that shape practices like baptism, exorcism, and embodied worship? 150 TRANSCRIPT In this episode: Why look before Sinai to grasp biblical purity and sacred space Mesopotamian divine council logic: Ea → Marduk → priest as mediator Eridu as a prototype of divine order; destinies and lots language Belet-ili (Mami/Nintu) and “learning the ways of the demons” The black goat rite: breath, life, and removing the ālu/utukku demon Biblical contrasts: Leviticus 16 scapegoat vs. Mesopotamian incantation Magic vs. ritual: mechanistic tech vs. covenantal, participatory practice Embodied sacred space/time: why liturgy, baptism, Eucharist still matter Mentioned texts & themes: Genesis 1–2 (cosmic temple), Deut 32 (lots), Enūma Eliš, Atrahasis, Eridu traditions, Leviticus 16 (scapegoat), Ezekiel 37 (breath & life). 150 TRANSCRIPT Join the community: On This Rock (Carey’s biblical-theology community) and ways to support via Patreon/PayPal. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/  Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: Chapters (00:00:00) - Mesopotamian demonology vs. Bible terms(00:04:59) - Tablet 12 overview: the eco-destroying demon(00:07:27) - “Not a god”: categories of beings & elohim(00:09:02) - Ea (Enki), Marduk, and priestly mediation(00:15:03) - Eridu, Apsu, and heavenly blueprints(00:24:21) - Consulting Belet-ili: learning the demons’ ways(00:29:19) - Order vs. chaos: does chaos have a pattern?(00:35:12) - The black-goat rite: setup & purpose(00:38:56) - Personal deities(00:43:30) - Prayers & offerings: doing the same work(00:47:59) - Who can be a "son of the god"?(00:50:58) - Activated mercy via performance(00:52:37) - The strange case of the breathing goat(00:56:23) - Breath, life, and expulsion mechanics(01:03:50) - Magic vs. ritual: Christian stakes(01:11:11) - Embodied sacred space/time today

Today we step before Leviticus into Sumerian and Akkadian worlds to see how ancient people thought about purity, danger, and the sacred—and how Israel both echoes and upends that world. We sample Udug-hul exorcism tablets (incl. Tablet 12), meet storm-like demons, and trace common ancient ritual media (living water, flour circles, fire, incense, bells, tamarisk).  Along the way we test big claims: holiness as a spatial/ritual frame, why “purity precedes holiness,” why Israel’s God doesn’t do “conflict theology” like Mesopotamia, and how not to over-systematize the Divine Council.  If you’ve read Heiser, Walton, or dabbled in 1 Enoch, apkallu lore, or Enuma Elish, this episode gives you a more complex, historically grounded backdrop—without ransacking your faith.  Don’t forget to check out the community at On This Rock for resources for Geller’s Healing Magic and Evil Demons. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Ancient Frames and Why They Matter(00:06:09) - Recap: Holiness as a Spatial/Ritual Frame(00:09:57) - How to Read ANE Texts Responsibly(00:19:11) - Clean/Unclean as Ritual Categories(00:21:30) - Research Question: Did Purity Precede Holiness?(00:25:49) - The Ancient World’s Pragmatic Religion(00:27:17) - Demons, Disease, and Incantations(00:29:02) - Demons in ANE vs the Bible(00:31:23) - “Conflict Theology” vs Israel’s God(00:34:29) - Tablet 7: Water Rites & Feeding the Ghosts(00:40:56) - Tablet 8: Birds, Omens, and Red Garments(00:42:42) - Tablet 9: Purifying Buildings(00:44:47) - Tablet 12 (Reading): The Storm Demon’s Ruin(00:49:26) - Context Matters: Storm God vs Storm Demon(00:52:04) - Apkallu & Geography Cautions(00:54:59) - Not Exegesis: Parallels to Genesis 1–9(00:58:14) - “Not a God,” Yet Gigantic: Status & Radiance(01:00:48) - Multiple Chaos Frames in the ANE(01:02:54) - Contrast of Solutions: Udug-hul vs Genesis(01:05:51) - Takeaways from Mesopotamian Materials

Carey sits down with Mike Chu to talk through the new Unseen Realm - Expanded Edition, how Heiser clarified his stance on creeds, why frame semantics and ancient contexts matter, and why a Christotelic reading (aimed at the eschaton) can keep Scripture’s big story intact. Along the way: pastoral cautions about celebrity culture, the value of scholarship and seminary, and a practical reframing of Imago Dei as being made as God's image (not merely "in" it). Highlights include: Heiser’s "non-credal" (not anti-credal) posture, Genesis 6 in an exilic frame, and how holiness as "other" reshapes baptism, worship, and daily vocation. What's actually new in Unseen Realm (Expanded Edition) and why it matters for teachers and small-group leaders Heiser on creeds: non-credal vs anti-credal, and using creeds as boundaries, not as an interpretive lens Christocentric vs Christotelic: aiming at the end goal of Christ (including the Spirit and the Eschaton) Reading Genesis 6 with an exilic Mesopotamian frame vs a Mosaic/Egyptian frame Imago Dei as vocation: "made as God's image," and why that lands pastorally The completion of AWKNG School of Theology's "Seminary on a Thumb Drive" initiative On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/  Website: genesismarksthespot.com   Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot   Music credit: "Marble Machine" by WintergatanLink to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/  Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Welcoming Mike; DCW year ahead & community vibe(00:05:01) - Expanded Edition notes (preface timeline, Awakening)(00:06:46) - "Vibe shift": hunger for scholarship & plain speech(00:08:34) - Pushback & avoiding Heiser-only celebrity culture(00:10:21) - Listening > labels; scholarly retrieval as discipleship(00:21:05) - Heiser and the Creeds: Non-credal, Not Anti-credal(00:25:21) - Christocentric vs Christotelic (aiming at the eschaton)(00:35:59) - Theological Messaging: God with Us(00:41:28) - Genesis 6: Exilic Mesopotamian Frame vs Mosaic/Egyptian(00:48:05) - The value of listening in scholarly study(00:53:24) - Imago Dei: "as" God’s image, not merely "in" (pastoral payoffs)(00:58:55) - Why we need teachers who do the dirty work(01:05:12) - Are seminaries cemetaries?(01:09:21) - The value of learning in cohorts(01:12:36) - Diversity, cohesion, and the need to find support(01:17:47) - Remind, Remind, Remind: Don't lose your identity(01:24:07) - Wrapping up thoughts on The Unseen Realm Expanded Edition(01:24:08) - AWKNG School of Theology: Seminary on a Thumb Drive

Continuing the water series by framing purification and holiness through an ancient Near Eastern lens and a Christotelic (telos-aimed) reading of Scripture. We contrast Christocentric “reading back” with Christotelic “reading forward,” explore holy/common vs clean/unclean as two distinct axes, and ask whether Leviticus was ever meant to be a sin-management system—or a way to host a holy God in sacred space. Along the way: covenant at Sinai, ritual logic, righteousness in OT vs NT, and why Jesus as incarnate Holy One unites holy and common in himself. Bonus at the end: Carey’s first look at The Unseen Realm: Expanded Edition and its nods to frame semantics and christological lenses. In this episode Editing experiment: does lighter editing serve the mission better? Why hermeneutics matters: Christocentric vs Christotelic readings Purity → Holiness: which comes first in human religious imagination? Two spectra, not one: holy/common and clean/unclean Leviticus beyond “sin management”: making space for divine presence Covenant first, cult second; why Israel is unique amid the ANE Righteousness reconsidered across Testaments Word-study pointers: “pure/purge/refine” (gold, oil, incense), ritual vs ethical usage Teaser: upcoming episodes on atonement frames, water vs fire, and Divine Council themes Resources mentioned Michael S. Heiser, The Unseen Realm — Expanded Edition (new front-matter on frames & christological lenses) John Walton on Christotelic reading (telos-oriented Scripture) Carey’s On This Rock community (October theme: Unseen Realm) Support / connect Join the convers... Chapters (00:00:00) - Why hermeneutics matters (not talking past each other)(00:06:03) - Ritual & baptism recap; the big question: purity or holiness first?(00:09:28) - A Christological lens: setting the stage(00:10:40) - Christocentric reading (arrows radiating back)(00:15:06) - Christotelic reading (arrows moving forward to Jesus)(00:17:26) - Case study: purification as our test-bed(00:20:51) - Is Leviticus a sin-management system? Rethinking assumptions(00:24:34) - What is holiness? Modern conflations vs ancient otherness(00:27:07) - Holiness as divine “set-apartness,” not mere moralism(00:30:41) - Don’t import later ideas into earlier texts(00:33:31) - Two axes: holy/common and clean/unclean (and the “powder-keg” mix)(00:36:33) - Why purification precedes holiness; historical signals(00:39:04) - Covenant first, cult second; Israel vs the ANE(00:43:41) - Intuitive logic of purification; why it feels “obvious”(00:47:17) - Word-study invites: pure, purge, refine; ritual vs ethical purity(00:50:45) - Fire, water, and purging; future directions(00:53:01) - Righteousness OT vs NT: behavior, justice, belonging(00:57:38) - Bonus: Unseen Realm Expanded, frame semantics, and themes for October

This episode of Genesis Marks the Spot explores the meaning and function of ritual with a special focus on baptism. From Jewish mikvahs and Qumran practices to Greco-Roman mystery rites and John the Baptist’s wilderness call, baptism emerges as more than a symbol—it’s participation in a story of death, resurrection, and new creation. We’ll look at biblical passages (Romans 6, Galatians 3, Colossians 2, and more), denominational perspectives, and how ritual frames help us move beyond false binaries of “just symbolic” versus “mechanistic.” Topics include: What ritual is and why it matters Rituals as communal participation and transformation Jewish and Greco-Roman contexts for baptism Jesus’ baptism as a Trinitarian theophany Baptism in Acts and the Pauline letters Denominational views on baptism How rituals shape identity, allegiance, and belonging On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - Ritual Before Purification(00:04:33) - Defining Ritual(00:10:24) - Scriptural Examples(00:13:25) - Ritual Frames(00:16:12) - Backgrounds: Jewish & Greco-Roman(00:22:14) - John the Baptist(00:24:36) - Jesus’ Baptism as Theophany (Identity and Revelation)(00:27:16) - Baptism in Acts(00:29:42) - Paul on Baptism(00:38:34) - New Creation & Reconciliation(00:42:02) - Baptism as Allegiance/Exodus(00:43:55) - What Baptism Does(00:49:28) - Baptism, Spirit, & Sacred Space(00:52:24) - Denominational Snapshots(00:55:08) - Reflection Questions and Moving Past False Binaries

This episode continues our deep dive into the biblical theme of water. From Genesis to the prophets, from Eden’s rivers to Israel’s covenant rain, water frames the story of God’s presence, judgment, and renewal. Along the way we’ll explore: How waters above (rain) and waters below (springs, rivers) carry distinct theological meanings Why the flood brings both destruction and recreation Ancient Near Eastern cosmology of water and how the Bible reframes it The difference between living water, rainwater, and cisterns—and how they connect to Spirit and baptism Stories like Hagar in the wilderness and Rebekah at the well as pictures of God’s provision and promise What does all of this mean for baptism, covenant, and discipleship today? Join me as we trace the living streams back to their source. On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot    Music credit: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan Link to Wintergatan’s website: https://wintergatan.net/   Link to the original Marble Machine video by Wintergatan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=Wintergatan  Chapters (00:00:00) - The Various Frames of Water(00:05:17) - The Flood and Cosmic Collapse(00:07:12) - Baptism in Living Water(00:09:08) - Genesis 2 and the Mist/Stream Debate(00:12:00) - Ancient Views: Canopy, Myth, or Irrigation?(00:18:38) - Irrigation, Eden, and God’s Presence(00:24:14) - Three Kinds of Water(00:25:51) - Rain as Divine Gift (and Judgment)(00:28:27) - Ancient Near Eastern Cosmology(00:32:58) - Paradise and Covenant: Two Water Frames(00:36:12) - Spirit as Living Water(00:40:10) - Springs Drying Up: Judgment & Apostasy(00:43:53) - Toil, Curse, and Exile from Eden(00:53:22) - Rebekah at the Well: Hospitality & Testing...Who?(00:56:29) - Israel’s Water Supply, Covenant, and Thresholds(00:58:47) - Thematic Tracing & Frame Semantics(01:04:01) - Resources & Invitation

In this episode of Genesis Marks the Spot, Carey sits down with Phil Bray—author of Leviticus on the Butcher’s Block and creator of the YouTube channel Leviticus is Fun—for a wide-ranging conversation on sacrifice, atonement, and the surprising beauty of Leviticus. They explore: How Leviticus reframes atonement away from wrath and toward restoration Why sacrifice isn’t about death, but about life and communion What Phil learned from being both a butcher and a Bible nerd How Leviticus helps us understand Hebrews, Jesus, and the Lord’s Supper Whether the sacrificial system was an accommodation… and if so, what kind Why blood and water both purify—and how Jesus’ life transforms both Why Passover and atonement aren't the same, and why that matters for communion The deeper frames behind the word “substitution” Carey and Phil also dive into the contagious holiness of Jesus, purification rituals, and why Christians must learn to disambiguate muddy theological terms like “atonement” and “substitution.” This episode is part of our Atonement monthly theme over at the On This Rock biblical theology community. Join us to discuss the many frames of substitution, atonement, and covenant—and be sure to check out Phil’s channel and book!   Links & Resources: Phil’s YouTube: Leviticus Is Fun Leviticus on the Butcher’s Block   On This Rock Biblical Theology Community:  https://on-this-rock.com/   Website: genesismarksthespot.com    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GenesisMarkstheSpot Chapters (00:00:00) - Intro & Guest Welcome(00:02:00) - From Butcher to Bible Nerd(00:04:32) - Echo Chambers & Reading the Bible for Yourself(00:08:14) - Making Leviticus Fun(00:14:09) - Was Leviticus an Accommodation?(00:18:07) - Life, Not Death, Is the Goal(00:20:53) - Fellowship Meal and...Purification??(00:25:04) - Passover and Blood on the Doorframe(00:27:45) - Was Passover a Sacrifice?(00:29:52) - The Blood is for Covenant(00:33:28) - Leviticus and Christian Communion(00:36:45) - Water & Blood: The Life Connection(00:41:21) - Contagious Holiness(00:46:12) - What If We Didn’t Have the Word Atonement?(00:50:01) - Restoring Creation, Not Just Covering Sin(00:52:46) - Phil’s Channel & Upcoming Projects(00:55:51) - Leviticus Helps Us Read Hebrews(00:57:43) - Frames of Substitution: A Project is Born(01:01:31) - Leviticus on the Butcher's Block(01:05:56) - An Immersive Experience