Marriage Kids and Money: Personal Finance for Families

Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung have grown their family’s net worth to $2.9 million by age 43 without owning a home and while traveling the world for years. In this episode, we break down how they built wealth starting with a modest income, avoided lifestyle inflation, and reached financial independence in their 30s. Kristy and Bryce share how their $1 million portfolio doubled while they were retired, how geographic arbitrage helped them control spending, and why investing early matters more than earning a six figure salary. We also talk about becoming parents after reaching FI, the real cost of raising a child, and how marketing pressures families into overspending. If you have ever worried that kids will derail your financial goals, this conversation will challenge that narrative. Most importantly, Kristy and Bryce explain how financial independence gave them the ultimate gift, time, especially during one of the most difficult seasons of their lives. Want to build wealth and design a life around what matters most? Grab my book Own Your Time: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book In This Episode You’ll Learn: How they reached $1 million in their 30s and grew it to $2.9 million Why avoiding lifestyle inflation accelerates wealth building The difference between investable assets and home equity How travel helped lower their annual expenses The real cost of raising a child Why financial independence is about buying back your time Resources Mentioned: Parent Like a Millionaire Without Being One: https://amzn.to/4rbbKPM Millennial Revolution Blog: https://www.millennial-revolution.com Free Investment Workshop: https://www.millennial-revolution.com/investworkshop Monarch Money to track your net worth: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Leave a voicemail for the show: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/voicemail Podcast Credits: Host: Andy Hill Editor: Johnny Sohl Carpe Diem! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nicole is back for our annual Bread & Wine episode and this one gets real. After finally reading my new book Own Your Time, she shares her honest and emotional reaction including the chapter that made her cry. We talk about the embarrassment of discussing money, the tension we felt during our debt payoff journey, and what it really takes to pursue financial independence as a married couple. Nicole opens up about growing up with money insecurity, why sharing our financial story felt vulnerable, and how we found a healthier middle ground on our path to time freedom. We also discuss why money should not be taboo, how to avoid pushing your spouse too far in the pursuit of financial independence, and what wealth truly feels like today. If you are in the messy middle of career, kids, and financial stress, this conversation is for you. Resources Mentioned Own Your Time by Andy Hillhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Leave us a voicemail for a future episodehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/voicemail Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When work becomes optional, a new question appears: who do you want to be now? Brad Barrett retired in 2015 at age 35 after a 13 year career as an accountant. Since then, he’s spent the last decade experimenting with early retirement, building ChooseFI into one of the largest personal finance podcasts in the world, and refining what a meaningful life actually looks like after financial independence. In this episode, Brad shares what pushed him toward financial independence, the key financial decisions that accelerated his path, and the surprising lessons he’s learned after 10+ years of optional work. We also talk about balance, identity, intentional living, and why some people stay one more year longer than they need to. If you’re pursuing financial independence or wondering what life really looks like on the other side, this conversation will challenge you to think deeper about time, money, and what truly matters. Want to build wealth and design a life around what matters most? Grab my book Own Your Time: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book In This Episode You’ll Learn: Why Brad started pursuing financial independence in his 20s The financial decisions that helped him retire at 35 How to think differently about spending and intentionality What early retirement is really like after the honeymoon phase Why “one more year” can cost more than you think Resources Mentioned: ChooseFI Podcast: https://choosefi.com ChooseFI Local Groups: https://choosefi.com/local Monarch Money (track your net worth): https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Leave a voicemail for the show: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/voicemail Podcast Credits: Host: Andy Hill Editor: Johnny Sohl Carpe Diem. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Justin Taylor reached a $2.8 million net worth by age 35 and retired in his early 30s. In this episode, he breaks down exactly how he built wealth, transitioned from the Air Force to corporate America, and walked away from full-time work to design a life focused on freedom, health, and travel. Justin shares how growing up with a scarcity mindset shaped his financial habits, why tracking your net worth changes everything, and the simple total stock market index fund strategy that fueled his growth. If you’ve ever felt behind financially or wondered whether financial independence is possible for you, this conversation will give you both tactical steps and mindset shifts. Want to build wealth and design a life around what matters most? Check out my book Own Your Time: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book In This Episode You’ll Learn: How Justin built a $2.8 million net worth by 35 His simple index fund investing approach The income journey from military to corporate What early retirement actually looks like How to overcome a scarcity mindset Resources Mentioned: The Financial Independence Show: https://thefishow.com/ Saving Sherpa: https://saving-sherpa.com/ Monarch Money (track your net worth): https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Leave a voicemail for the show: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/voicemail Podcast Credits: Host: Andy Hill Editor: Johnny Sohl Artwork: Kayli Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we talk with Jesse Cramer about his journey to reaching Coast FIRE, a milestone where existing investments can grow to fund retirement without additional contributions. We unpack how starting early and letting compound interest work over time can create long-term freedom. We also discuss the tension between saving and enjoying life today, especially while managing the realities of family expenses. Along the way, we highlight the importance of financial education and staying flexible as plans evolve. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re starting too late, unsure how to balance today’s needs with tomorrow’s goals, or questioning what financial independence really looks like, then this episode is for you. 00:00 The Importance of Saving and Compound Interest 02:58 Achieving Coast Fire: Jesse's Journey 06:02 Understanding Investments and Financial Education 09:01 Income Growth and Financial Decisions 11:57 Balancing Spending and Budgeting 14:57 Managing Family Expenses and Lifestyle Inflation 18:03 The Flexibility of Financial Planning 20:54 Generational Wealth and Parenting Perspectives 24:04 Future Goals and Family Focus 27:11 Key Takeaways for Financial Success Resources and Links 📚 📖My new book, "Own Your Time"  https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book 🎙️ Jesse Cramer's podcast: Personal Finance for Long Term Investors 💻 Jesse Cramer's blog:  ⁠Best Interest Blog⁠ 💻 Sponsors and Additional Resources https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/resources 📞Voicemail for Questions: Leave a voicemail at marriagekidsmoney.com/voicemail to have your question answered on the show! 👉Connect with me on social media: LinkedIn: Andy Hill, MKM Instagram and Facebook: MarriageKidsAndMoney Credits Editor: Johnny Sohl Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How can we help our kids become resilient and independent without pushing too hard or protecting too much? This week, we sit down with Lee Benson, author of Value Creation Kid, to talk about turning everyday responsibilities into growth opportunities. Lee shares how chores, family meetings, and shared decision making can create a culture of leadership, accountability, and value creation at home. We wrap things up with practical steps families can take today, including involving kids in financial decisions and setting clear expectations that foster independence. Whether you are raising preschoolers or teens, this episode will help you shift from protecting to preparing your kids for life. Visit dinnertable.com to learn more about building a value driven family culture. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 - Introduction and Guest Welcome1:33 - Why Parents Avoid Struggle3:18 - Healthy vs. Unhealthy Struggles5:04 - Lee Benson's Personal Story9:04 - Connecting with Kids on Values10:34 - Family Meetings and Leadership13:30 - The Role of Family Dinners16:09 - Running the Household as a Team19:51 - Chores, Allowances, and Money Mindset24:32 - Conclusion and Call to Action Resources and Links 📚 📖My new book, "Own Your Time"  https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon 💻 Sponsors and Additional Resources https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/resources 📞Voicemail for Questions: Leave a voicemail at marriagekidsmoney.com/voicemail to have your question answered on the show! 👉Connect with me on social media: LinkedIn: AndyHillMKM Instagram and Facebook: MarriageKidsAndMoney Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do you decide between Roth and traditional investing when you want flexibility in the future? We kick off the show by answering a listener question from Liz about how much to invest in Roth versus traditional accounts. We walk through tax diversification, the three bucket strategy, and how to think about today’s income versus retirement so your family can build wealth with options. Next, we sit down with Anthony Rojas from Georgia for our Net Worth Win segment. Anthony shares how his family built an $868,000 net worth by age 39, the financial lessons shaped by his upbringing, and how he and his wife are using money to create stability, generosity, and meaningful experiences for their growing family. We wrap things up with a Money Quiz featuring Calvin. Together, we test his knowledge on net worth, investing, and YouTube monetization so kids and parents can learn and play along together. Chapters 🎧 0:00 Introduction and Episode Overview  1:29 Listener Question from Liz  2:51 Tax Buckets Explained  11:52 Anthony Rojas's Net Worth Journey  21:38 Building Generational Wealth  31:03 Money Quiz with Calvin Hill  Resources and Links 📚 📖My new book, "Own Your Time"  https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon 📞Voicemail for Questions: Leave a voicemail at marriagekidsmoney.com/voicemail to have your question answered on the show! 🎙️Anthony Rojas's Podcast: Listen to Anthony's podcast, Unknown Variables 🍑Nectarine Financial Advisors: Recommended for advice-only financial planning. Visit marriagekidsmoney.com/Nectarine for more information. 💻 Sponsors and Additional Resources ⁠https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/resources⁠ 👉Connect with me on social media: LinkedIn: AndyHillMKM Instagram and Facebook: MarriageKidsAndMoney Credits Editor: Johnny Sohl Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, I talk with Cody Berman and Sean Mullaney about what it really takes to reach early financial independence. Cody shares how he built a $4.8 million net worth by 29 through frugal living, intentional spending, and creating multiple income streams, while Sean breaks down the smartest tax strategies early retirees use to access money sooner and keep more of what they earn. We cover how to effectively use 401(k)s, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and taxable accounts together, plus key tactics like the Rule of 55, Roth conversions, and tax arbitrage that can dramatically lower your lifetime tax rate. Sean makes complex tax planning simple and actionable for anyone pursuing FIRE. Whether you’re just starting your wealth-building journey or planning an early retirement, this episode delivers practical strategies to grow wealth faster and design a flexible, purpose-driven financial future. CHAPTERS 🎧 00:00 – Welcome & Episode Overview 01:10 – Best Accounts for Early Retirement 02:45 – Why Traditional 401(k)s Still Matter 04:55 – Accessing Retirement Money Before 59½ 07:10 – Roth IRAs for Early Retirement Flexibility 11:45 – Using Taxable Accounts to Retire Early 14:10 – Tax Rate Arbitrage & Keeping Taxes Low 18:45 – HSAs, ACA Planning, and Early Retirement 23:10 – Financial Independence with Purpose 26:00 – Net Worth Win: $4.8M by Age 29 27:45 – Cody Berman’s FIRE Origin Story 32:00 – Quitting Corporate & Scaling Income Fast 37:00 – Building Multiple Income Streams 41:45 – Net Worth & Asset Breakdown 46:25 – Debt, Risk, and Long-Term Wealth Strategy 50:55 – Spending, Lifestyle, and Life After FI 52:55 – Advice for Your 20s & Getting Started 55:00 – Final Thoughts & Where to Connect Resources and Links 📚 My new book, "Own Your Time" - https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Sponsors and Additional Resources https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/resources FI Tax Guy (Sean’s blog & tax planning resources): https://fitaxguy.com/ Cody Berman’s official site (passive income guides & resources): https://codydberman.com/ The Financial Independence Show (podcast by Cody Berman & Justin Taylor): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-financial-independence-show/id1434155196 Gold City Ventures (Cody’s company focused on passive income and online business): https://goldcityventures.com/ Gold City Ventures on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/goldcityventures Credits Editor: Johnny Sohl Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson NOTE: The discussion is intended to be for general educational purposes and is not tax, legal, or investment advice for any individual. Andy and Marriage Kids and Money do not endorse Sean Mullaney, Mullaney Financial & Tax, Inc. and their services.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Marriage Kids and Money podcast, we break down Coast FIRE, a financial approach that lets you “coast” to retirement once your investments can grow on their own, without needing to keep pouring money in. We're joined by Mike English, who shares his real-life path to reaching Coast FIRE in his 30s and what that decision changed about his life and priorities. Plus, Calvin joins Andy and hops on the mic for a fun and meaningful conversation about why investing early actually matters. They talk investment strategies, financial independence, and how to think long-term about building wealth that lasts. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re saving enough, questioned the pressure to grind forever, or thought about what kind of money story you want your kids to grow up with, this episode might shift how you think about the road to financial freedom. Chapters 🎧 00:00 Introduction to Coast Fire 01:15 Understanding Coast Fire by Age 30, 40, and 50 12:08 Interview with Mike English: Achieving Coast Fire 34:04 Good Word with Calvin: Celebrating Financial Literacy Resources and Links 📚 My new book, "Own Your Time" - https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon Try our FREE Coast FIRE Calculator 📱 https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/coast-fire/ Sponsors and Additional Resources https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/resources Credits Editor: Johnny Sohl Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re one day away from launch, and I wanted to share a quick update and ask for your support. As of today, Own Your Time is at 354 pre-orders, with a goal of 500 by launch day. If Marriage Kids and Money has helped you think differently about your family’s financial independence journey, this is a meaningful way to support the work and the message behind the show. The easiest way to help is to pre-order on Amazon. Search “Own Your Time by Andy Hill” or use the link below. Pre-orders close soon, and ordering today truly makes a difference. If you’re new here, this book is the playbook. It’s the entire philosophy of this podcast in one place for $28. Pre-order on Amazon:https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we sit down with Larry Hagner, founder of The Dad Edge and author of The Pursuit of Legendary Fatherhood. We talk about a powerful idea Larry calls “the drift”—how men can slowly lose focus in their roles as husbands and fathers without even realizing it. Larry shares how to interrupt that drift and become more intentional at home, strengthen your marriage, and build deeper connections with your kids. We also dive into practical habits, mindset shifts, and simple actions dads can take right now to create a more fulfilling family life. If you’re a husband or father who wants to show up better for the people who matter most, this conversation is for you. Resources and Links 📚 The Dad Edge: https://thedadedge.com/ Larry's New Book : The Pursuit of Legendary Fatherhood https://amzn.to/3Zgszx2 My new book, "Own Your Time" - https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon Sponsors and Additional Resources https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/resources Credits Editor: Johnny Sohl Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a lot of noise in the investing world, but building wealth doesn’t have to become a second job. In this episode, I share how to invest simply, consistently, and with your family’s future in mind, without stress or constant decision-making. In today’s episode, I sit down with Blake Edwards from Georgia, who has built an $865,000 net worth by age 31. Blake breaks down how intentional income growth, living below their means, and staying aligned as a couple helped accelerate their wealth. He also shares a transparent look at his family’s assets, approach to generosity, and what generational wealth really means to him beyond the numbers. I wrap up with a Money Quiz, testing my son Calvin on Stranger Things revenue, compound interest, and the gap between race prizes and investment returns. If you want real-life inspiration and practical proof that calm, consistent investing works, even with a busy family and W-2 jobs, this episode will encourage you to stay the course and keep moving forward. Chapters 🎧 0:00 Intro 1:19 Hannah's Question: Getting Started with Investing 11:49 Meet Blake Edwards 12:32 Blake's Motivation for Building Wealth 14:03 Partnership and Shared Values 15:54 Career Trajectory and Income Growth 18:58 Asset Breakdown: Where the Money Is 20:28 Getting Started: The Roth IRA Journey 23:48 Liabilities: The Mortgage Decision 26:14 Generational Wealth and Values 28:31 Future Goals and Dreams 30:04 The Power of Giving 31:25 Advice: Intentionality and Education 33:57 Building Quiet Wealth with W2 Jobs 35:29 Money Quiz: Calvin's Financial Education Resources 📚 Own Your Time https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Money https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Coast FIRE Calculator https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/coast-fire/ HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. Credits 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Groves Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if there was a third option between grinding it out in corporate life and chasing extreme early retirement? What if you could work less, be more present with your family, and still feel confident about your financial future? In today’s episode, I join Paula Pant on her top-ranked podcast, Afford Anything, to talk about the middle ground between traditional employment and full FIRE. We dive into Coast FIRE, part-time work, and what it really takes to own your time while raising kids. I share how my wife and I structured our lives to both work part time, stay involved with our kids, and still build long term wealth without burning out. This conversation is part of our Best of MKM series and was originally recorded live at FinCon in Portland. Paula and I walk through my 10-step framework for owning your time, including how to reduce financial anxiety, eliminate debt, invest with intention, and design a three-day work week that supports your family and your health. We also talk candidly about parenting, identity, lifestyle tradeoffs, and how to model a life of freedom and generosity for your kids. If you are tired of living for the weekend and want a realistic path to more time freedom, this conversation will open your eyes to what is possible. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro and Best of MKM setup 1:10 Meeting Paula Pant and Afford Anything 2:30 Why two working parents chose part time work 5:10 Designing a balanced family schedule 8:00 Being present during pivotal childhood years 12:05 Identity beyond work 15:10 The 10 steps to owning your time 18:00 Eliminating debt and financial anxiety 22:00 Reaching Coast FIRE 25:30 Why paying off the mortgage matters 30:00 FU money and career flexibility 35:00 Designing a three day work week 40:00 Health insurance outside corporate life 45:00 Avoiding lifestyle creep 50:00 Teaching kids generational wealth habits 1:00:30 Where to learn more about Andy and Own Your Time RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Moneyhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Coast FIRE Calculatorhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/coast-fire/ Afford Anything Podcasthttps://affordanything.com HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if you could reach a point where your investments were doing the heavy lifting and you could finally slow down without falling behind? Would you keep pushing forward, or would you take the exit and design a life that fits right now? In today’s episode, Anders Skagerberg shares how he and his wife reached Coast FIRE in their early thirties and made the intentional decision to downshift. Instead of continuing to save aggressively, they chose to prioritize time, flexibility, and family while letting compound growth work in the background. Anders explains what Coast FIRE really looks like in real life and how it gave his family options instead of pressure. This episode is part of our Best of MKM series and was originally recorded in 2023. A short clip from this conversation took off on YouTube, so we decided to bring you the full story. Anders breaks down his Coast FIRE numbers, the accounts he uses, how he and his wife communicate about money, and why taking the Coast FIRE exit does not have to be permanent. If you are Coast FIRE curious or wondering whether you can have both freedom today and security tomorrow, this conversation will help you think differently about what is possible. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro 0:41 Meet Anders Skagerberg 2:08 Coast FIRE Five 3:06 Retirement projections 4:41 Current household spending 5:43 What motivated Anders to start investing 6:46 Lessons from the Great Financial Crisis 9:02 How their investments are structured 10:43 Why tax diversification matters 11:50 How they communicate about money as a couple 13:03 Taking the Coast FIRE exit 15:12 Life after downshifting 16:30 One step to start your Coast FIRE journey 17:14 Where to find Anders online RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Moneyhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Coast FIRE Calculatorhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/coast-fire/ HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does it really mean to be “almost a millionaire”? And is that number as important as the freedom you gain along the way? In today’s episode, Joshua Weekley shares how he and his wife built a net worth of nearly $1 million by age 35 without extreme deprivation or risky bets. Instead of chasing shortcuts, Joshua focused on consistent habits, automation, and learning how to control his money so it could support the life he wanted with his family. This episode is part of our Best of MKM series and was originally released last year. It quickly became one of our most popular and highly viewed interviews because of its honesty, relatability, and practical approach to wealth building. Joshua opens up about growing up around money stress, learning from what his parents did and did not do with finances, and why net worth became a powerful motivator for reclaiming his time. He also breaks down exactly where his money is today, including home equity, retirement accounts, brokerage investments, and cash. Most importantly, he explains why wealth is built milestone by milestone, not overnight. If you are working toward your first $1,000 emergency fund or closing in on your first million, this conversation is a powerful reminder that every step forward matters. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro 0:20 Why milestones matter more than a million 1:46 Joshua’s motivation for building wealth 2:58 Income journey from serving to engineering 3:50 Household income growth over time 4:06 Net worth breakdown at nearly $1 million 4:45 Investing vs saving early on 5:51 Avoiding analysis paralysis with automation 6:36 Current debts and mortgage balance 7:26 Tracking net worth after Mint 8:49 Generational wealth plans for his kids 10:07 Teaching money skills over inheritance 10:55 How wealth created more family experiences 12:19 Advice for getting started from zero 13:45 Why emergency funds are a major milestone 14:35 How to connect with Joshua RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Moneyhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Mortgage Free Payoff Calculatorhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/mortgage-payoff/ HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What would your life look like if you woke up tomorrow and your home was completely paid off? How much freedom would that give your family? And how much more possibility would you feel if housing costs disappeared forever? In today’s episode, Ken and Mary Okoroafor from The Humble Penny share how they became mortgage free in one of the most expensive cities in the world: London. They paid off the equivalent of nearly $475,000 in just seven years, and the ripple effects changed everything. Ken and Mary open up about the peace of mind they gained, how their work and family life transformed, what mortgage freedom made possible for their children, and why this choice unlocked a new lifestyle filled with flexibility, purpose, and joy. This Best of MKM conversation is one of the most inspiring mortgage free stories we have ever featured. If you want to eliminate stress, design a more intentional family life, and build generational wealth with confidence, this episode will light a fire under you. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro 0:34 Meet Ken and Mary Okoroafor 1:50 Mortgage Free Three 2:40 Why they became mortgage free 4:10 How cost of living shaped their decisions 5:43 How they paid off their mortgage in seven years 8:03 Living on one income and side hustles 9:41 Cutting costs and intentional lifestyle choices 10:51 Working together as a couple 12:39 Celebrating the mortgage free moment 15:26 How their work life changed 18:14 What life looks like today 20:11 Why this freedom would not be possible with a mortgage 21:58 Generational wealth and their children 24:20 Being present as parents 26:00 Their book Financial Joy 27:00 Where to find The Humble Penny RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Moneyhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Mortgage Free Payoff Calculatorhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/mortgage-payoff/ The Humble Pennyhttps://thehumblepenny.com Financial Joy Bookhttps://amzn.to/48jWREN The Humble Penny YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/thehumblepenny HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever wondered what would change in your life if you finally reached the point where your investments could grow on autopilot even if you stopped contributing? What kind of freedom would that give your family? And what possibilities might open up if you did not have to hustle at 110 percent forever? In today’s episode, Marko Zlatic from Whiteboard Finance shares how he and his wife reached Coast FIRE in their mid-thirties with over $730,000 invested. Marco breaks down the exact moves that got them there, from early investing habits to their simple index fund strategy to building a life that blends ambition with balance. He also opens up about parenting, marriage, culture, and why he believes Coast Fire is the most realistic financial independence path for families. This Best of MKM episode earned more than 40,000 YouTube views when it first aired, and for good reason. It is transparent, motivating, and packed with actionable takeaways for anyone aiming to build wealth while still enjoying life today. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro 0:35 Meet Marko Zlatic of Whiteboard Finance 2:09 Coast Fire Five 3:30 Retirement projections 3:58 Current expenses 4:15 How Marko started investing 5:11 When he shifted to index funds 6:20 Money dynamics in marriage 7:52 What is inside Marko’s portfolio 8:31 Pre tax, taxable and Roth strategy 9:42 529s and kids plans 11:35 His take on bonds 12:45 How Coast Fire changed his mindset 14:03 Why Coast Fire is perfect for parents 15:51 Balancing FIRE with living well 17:37 What excites Marko about the next 15 years 19:20 A life philosophy rooted in purpose 20:25 Where to find Marko online RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Net Worth with Empowerhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/empower Whiteboard Finance YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/whiteboardfinance Whiteboard Finance Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/whiteboardfinance HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever wondered what life would look like if you designed your days around freedom instead of work? What would change if you could travel for months at a time, pick projects you actually enjoy, and still watch your net worth climb into the millions? Today you’ll hear how Lauren and Stephen Keys, creators of Trip of a Lifestyle, built a million dollar net worth in their early thirties and used it to create a flexible, travel-filled life. They didn’t wait for traditional retirement at 65. They didn’t burn out on the way to FIRE. Instead, they created a lifestyle where they work less, live more, and let their money do the heavy lifting. This conversation originally aired last year and quickly became one of our most-watched interviews, so it felt like the perfect Best of MKM feature for this holiday week. Lauren and Stephen share how they avoided lifestyle creep, traveled the world cheaply, took mini retirements, paid off two homes, and built more confidence with each dollar saved. If you're dreaming of more time freedom, this story will show you what’s possible. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro 0:26 Meet Lauren and Stephen Keys 2:00 The moment that changed everything 4:15 Early moves that accelerated their wealth 5:11 Avoiding lifestyle creep 6:50 How they travel constantly without overspending 9:03 Their first six month mini retirement in Hawaii 10:42 Visiting every national park 12:17 Leaving full-time work 13:38 Life at a million-dollar net worth 15:36 Why they still choose to work 16:38 Rethinking traditional retirement 18:05 Breaking down their million dollar portfolio 19:20 Paying off homes vs investing 21:39 Looking ahead to the next decade 22:57 One step couples can take today 23:20 Where to find Lauren and Stephen RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Net Worth with Empowerhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/empower Trip of a Lifestylehttps://www.tripofalifestyle.com Cram Better tutoringhttps://crambetter.com Trip of a Lifestyle Financial Roadmaphttps://www.tripofalifestyle.com/roadmap HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today’s episode, we explore the power of generosity and the traditions that can help our kids grow into grateful and giving adults. We walk through five simple and meaningful family giving ideas, including Big Tip Tuesday, the Big Give, glovebox giving, and volunteer habits that bring families closer. Then we sit down with Angela Rozmyn from Women’s Personal Finance to learn how she and her husband reached Coast Fire in their thirties and how intentional living shaped their journey. Angela shares transparent details about their investing, lifestyle choices, and the trade-offs that helped them create more time freedom as parents. We close with a heartwarming Good Word story featuring Calvin and a Today.com piece about a baker who delivers free birthday cakes to his neighbors experiencing homelessness. It is a powerful reminder that even small acts of kindness can make a big difference. If you want more margin to live generously, check out Own Your Time at https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon Chapters 0:00 Welcome to the show 0:24 Five family giving traditions 9:05 Coast Fire Couple interview with Angela Rozmyn 38:30 Where to find Angela online 39:02 The Good Word with Calvin 40:55 Today.com good news story 43:45 Final thoughts Resources and Links Women’s Personal Finance (Angela Rozmyn)https://womenspersonalfinance.org/ Baker delivers free birthday cakes to homeless peoplehttps://www.today.com/food/people/baker-delivers-free-birthday-cakes-to-homeless-people-rcna235965 Own Your Time - New book: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ownyourtimeamazon Crew: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/crew Sponsors and additional resourceshttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/sponsors Disclaimer This show is for entertainment purposes only. Be sure to seek out a professional for your specific financial situation. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. Credits Editor: Johnny Sohl Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Talking about money with your spouse can be hard, especially when emotions, expectations, and old habits get involved. In this episode, we explore how couples can discuss money without fighting and move toward fairness, trust, and teamwork. Our guests, Heather and Douglas Bonaparth, are a married couple who know both the financial and emotional sides of money. Heather is a lawyer turned writer, and Douglas is a nationally recognized financial advisor and founder of Bonafide Wealth. Together, they co-authored Money Together, a book that helps couples create equity in their relationships and communicate more effectively about finances. We discuss how to approach tough conversations about spending, why understanding your financial beginnings matters, and how to replace accusation with curiosity. Heather and Douglas also share practical advice on balancing contributions at home and work, maintaining fairness when one partner earns more, and building a marriage rooted in empathy and shared goals. PODCAST CHAPTERS 00:00 – Welcome and introduction 01:00 – Why money can be a sticky subject in marriage 02:00 – How our beginnings shape our money beliefs 03:30 – Common money conflicts in relationships 05:15 – The importance of curiosity and empathy 06:30 – Setting the right time and place for money talks 08:00 – Start with wins, not criticism 09:00 – Turning money conversations into teamwork 10:45 – Redefining contribution beyond income 13:00 – Creating fairness at home and in finances 15:30 – Building equity in your marriage 17:30 – Moving away from traditional gender roles 19:30 – Balancing breadwinning and identity 22:30 – Power dynamics and redefining success 25:00 – Learning from couples who do it right 27:00 – How to start small and lead with vulnerability 29:00 – The role of time, communication, and empathy 31:30 – About the book Money Together and where to learn more RESOURCES & NOTES 📚 Money Together by Heather and Douglas Bonaparth – Learn how to create fairness and become an unstoppable financial team: https://amzn.to/3JH4tHO 🌐 Heather and Douglas Bonaparth – DoMoneyTogether.com – Explore their resources, newsletter, and more insights for couples. 💰 Sponsors, Deals & Partners – See all current offers in one place: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/sponsors 📘 Own Your Time – Pre-order our first book: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book ▶️ YouTube – Subscribe to watch videos and interviews: https://www.youtube.com/marriagekidsandmoney HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS Podcast Artwork: Liz Theresa Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices