Catching Up to FI

Today we're putting AI (Artificial Intelligence) to the test with AI money expert Jeffrey Trull. He's founder of the blog and newsletter, Money Meets AI where he shares tested prompts for your money. He joins us to sort the genuinely useful from the wildly overhyped when it comes to AI. We expand our conversation into prompts, privacy, hallucinations, portfolio questions, Google vs. ChatGPT, paid vs. free tools, and where AI can actually save real time for DIYers. Along the way, Bill wrestles with the tradeoff between efficiency and original thought, Jackie pushes the "AI as thought partner" framing, and Jeffrey stresses that it's great for lower-risk questions but terrible as your all-knowing financial planner.  This episode covers: Where AI is genuinely useful for DIY personal finance Why prompts matter, but perfection is overrated Using AI to review insurance, contracts, and 401(k) plan docs Google vs. ChatGPT vs. Claude for money questions Paid vs. free AI tools and when subscriptions are worth it AI "hallucinations" and how to fact-check outputs Privacy concerns when uploading financial documents Why AI should be a thought partner, not your financial planner Agentic AI, AI shopping assistants, and what may be coming next   ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Money Meets AI Top 5 Prompts for the Money Math You've Been Avoiding    ⏰ Related Episodes Founder of 'Catching Up to FI' Just Hit Financial Independence, Now What? | Bill Yount | 196   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

What if the guy who literally wrote the book on asset allocation told you your biggest risk isn't the market…it's the person in your bathroom mirror? Neurologist-turned-market-historian William (Bill) Bernstein joins us for a fascinating conversation about his unlikely path from photochemistry to medicine to becoming the quiet godfather of Boglehead-style investing. He shares what shaped his "simple but not easy" philosophy, why he thinks all of investing is "half math, half Shakespeare," and how a homemade website in the 1990s turned into "The Intelligent Asset Allocator" and a second career. This episode covers: ✅ How a frustrated young scientist became a neurologist, then a financial theorist and writer ✅ Early investing mistakes (Palladium futures, hot funds, overconfidence) and what finally clicked ✅ The five hurdles from If You Can and why history and psychology matter as much as math  ✅ What makes a true bubble: social buzz, career-changing speculators, hostility to skeptics, wild predictions ✅ Predictions vs forecasts, and how Bill "called" the dot-com bubble and GFC without betting the farm ✅ His current mix: modest small/value tilts, cash/T-bills for sanity, and a TIPS ladder for 30 years of expenses ✅ Why a TIPS ladder feels different from a TIPS fund and why most investors still won't use one ✅ The 30-years-working / 30-years-retired "toy model" and why it implies 20–25%+ savings rates ✅ Teaching kids about money via your own behavior, crappy college jobs, and tiny three-fund portfolios ✅ A sober view of FIRE as a way out of the cubicle and into meaningful work—not a 36-year-old beach fantasy ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Efficient Frontier (Bernstein's website) 🌐 The John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy 📘If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly (free digital download) 📗 Your Money and Your Brain (Jason Zweig) https://a.co/d/07bgnfz1   ⏰ Related Episodes The $1,000 Gift From Jonathan Clements To 18-Year-Olds | Bill Bernstein & Christine Benz | 160     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

What if your giving plan felt as intentional and optimized as your FI plan, and just as easy to automate? In walks Daffy, the new and modern donor-advised fund that is democratizing giving! Adam Nash, co-founder and CEO of Daffy, joins us today to explain how donor-advised funds (DAFs) went from stuffy tools for the ultra-wealthy to something you can open on your phone. Daffy is a fast-growing fintech platform and community for charitable giving, made for everyday people. Adam shares the pandemic-era "why now" behind Daffy, how traditional donor-advised funds quietly skim high AUM fees while setting eye-watering minimums, and walks through Daffy's flat-fee, app-first model.    This episode also covers:  ✅ What donor-advised funds are and why they've been hidden from most everyday givers  ✅ DAFs for tax optimization (bunching, appreciated stock, estate planning)  ✅ How to turn giving into a family and workplace culture (campaigns, matching, gift links)  ✅ Why Adam sees a DAF as a simple "charitable 401(k)" or mini family foundation without the lawyers, board meetings, or overhead, built to help you be more generous   ==========   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)   ➡️ Join Bill or Jackie on :Daffy and receive an extra $25 bonus for charity in your new account  🌐 :Daffy (The Donor-Advised Fund For You™) ▶️ :Daffy on YouTube  📄The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) is Telling Donors One Thing: Get a Donor-Advised Fund  Donor-Advised Fund fee comparison calculator   Stock vs. Cash Donation Calculator      If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

What happens when a "late-starter" ER doc finally hits FI at 60, then must figure out how to actually spend the money without blowing it—or hoarding it forever? Bill joins Mindy and Scott on the BiggerPockets Money podcast to walk through his full "caught up to FI" debrief. Here his decade-long sprint from single-digit savings to 40%, taking his money back from a private bank, and the 60th-birthday retirement-readiness check that came back with a 100% success rate. From there, they dig into his move from a simple three-fund portfolio to a risk-parity setup, why he hired a flat-fee planner after years as a DIY investor, and how he's using FI to buy back time and jump-start his kids' wealth with Roth IRAs, HSAs, and tax-savvy living gifts. This episode covers:  ➡️ Going from "rich but broke doctor" to FI in about 10 years ➡️ Boosting a savings rate from single digits to ~40% without feeling deprived ➡️ Shifting from a three-fund portfolio to a risk-parity decumulation strategy ➡️ Using flat-fee, advice-only planner instead of 1% AUM ➡️ Order of withdrawals: taxable, pre-tax, Roth, plus asset location ➡️ Modeling taxes, RMDs, and Social Security timing in real life ➡️ Building a "3-1-1" spending plan for needs, comfort, and luxury/giving ➡️ Helping adult kids fill Roth IRAs and HSAs as part of generational wealth ➡️ Weighing when to actually leave medicine once money is no longer the boss   ==============================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 BiggerPockets Money  BiggerPockets Money Youtube    ⏰ Related Episodes Founder of 'Catching Up to FI' Just Hit Financial Independence, Now What? | Bill Yount | 196  Flashback to Episode 1: 'A Boat Named YOLO' | Bill Yount | 197     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Don't be that person who becomes a hoarder in retirement! You know who you are and it's a big concern for those that are champs at saving but reluctant to spend. It almost seems like a good problem to have... but not really! Retirement planners Rachel Camp, CFP® and Jesse Cramer join the show for a tackle the topic and what's known as the "consumption gap"-- the mismatch between what retirees could safely spend and what they actually spend. They discuss how decades of frugality, and dopamine hits from watching net worth climb and similar types of thinking make it brutally hard to flip from saver to spender. In this episode we cover:  ✅ The 4% rule's real origin story (it was built to avoid failure, not to optimize joy) ✅ The very human tendency to over solve for the worst-case market and under solve for lost health, time, and relationships  ✅ Strategies Rachael and Jesse use with their clients to help them spend and not hoard their money in retirement ✅ Why talking through childhood money stories is often more powerful than another spreadsheet. ✅ Debunking the viral "retire later, die sooner" meme and zoom out to what actually affects longevity ✅ A challenge tailor-made for late starters: once the math says you've won, stop buy back your time, and don't die with the biggest net worth of your life. ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)   🌐 Rachael Camp Wealth Rachael Camp Wealth Youtube 🌐 The Best Interest Blog (Jesse Cramer) Personal Finance For Long-Term Investors (Jesse Cramer's podcast) 📄Debunked: The Later You Retire, The Earlier You Die?!     ⏰ Related Episodes Smart Money Moves After 50 | Bill Yount | 142  Space Telescopes, Sunflowers, and Financial Gardening | Jesse Cramer | 105      If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

This episode is a little time-travel experiment with a flashback to the first episode (A Boat Named YOLO) that started it all. We're celebrating three years of 'Catching Up to FI' and Bill officially coming out as reaching Financial Independence (FI). He started late at 50 but now FI at 60! Be sure to go back and listen to this past Sunday's episode, where Jackie interviews Bill and he openly shares all the juicy details.   ➡️Founder of 'Catching Up to FI' Just Hit Financial Independence, Now What? | Bill Yount | 196    ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Don't miss this special 3-year anniversary of 'Catching Up to FI' as Bill marks the moment by doing something he's been helping everyone else do for years: officially 'coming out' as financially independent (FI)! It is hard to believe that the show has been around for 3 years, 196 episodes, 20k Facebook Community members, 1.4M audio downloads and 300k views on YouTube. Is this real?   Today we celebrate Bill's journey from Episode #1: 'A Boat Named Yolo', to officially reaching FI, but feels more like the 'The Fog of FI'. During this interview, Jackie gets Bill to open up and vulnerably share details of his wake-up call at 50: burned out, sued, house-poor after a disastrous renovation and de-risking at the bottom of the Great Recession, and still living paycheck to paycheck despite a 'rich doctor' income. He walks through discovering FI via blogs and books, taking a full year to reclaim his money from private bankers and whole life policies (he's naming names!). Bill's real superpower was boosting his savings rate up to ~40% in his early 50s using Mr. Money Mustache's 'shockingly simple math' to accept a 10 to 15-year timeline.   Fast-forward to 60 and a retirement-readiness check with a flat-fee, advice-only planner: after three years of expense tracking in Monarch Money, a comprehensive plan, and stress-testing with risk-parity portfolios, Bill gets the verdict every late starter dreams of, 'you could retire tomorrow'— and feels weirdly flat. We also dig into the emotional side: the identity crisis of possibly leaving medicine, using newfound leverage to negotiate work on his own terms, the choice to glide out over several years instead of cliff-retiring, and the shift from building wealth to giving with warm hands, mentoring younger docs, and helping his adult sons lay foundations he never had.   We close with Bill's hard-earned advice:  ➡️ Reverse-engineer your life from your tombstone ➡️ Focus on health span as fiercely as net worth ➡️ Stop over-identifying with your job or your number ➡️ Remember that for late starters, the real win is feeling less alone while you build a life you won't regret.   ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: 📄 Bill's 'Letter of Gratitude' and 'Financial Life Policy Statement' Saving Our Retirement on Humble Dollar Bill's Financial Planner:  Bryan Minogue CFP®, CFA (Kardinal Financial)   ⏰ Related Episodes A Boat Named YOLO | Bill Yount | 001 The Power of Cash Flow Planning | Sarah-Catherine Gutierrez | 016 The Father of Financial Life Planning (Part 1) | George Kinder | 140   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Do you want to own your time, work less, and live more? What if the point isn't maxing out every account forever, but designing a week you don't want to escape from? This is the Coast FI life built by our guest today, Andy Hill. He shares the steps you can take to put your family first and escape the 9-5 grind: for good! He takes us through the full arc: starting married life at –$50K net worth, killing the debt in a year with budget parties, saving 40–50% to hit around $500K in investments by forty, then realizing that number was enough for Coast FI. With all that, he realized that what he really wanted was time.    Andy is an award-winning blogger, podcaster, and family finance coach behind Marriage, Kids, and Money. He's also author of the new book 'Own Your Time: 10 Financial Steps to Put Your Family First and Escape the Corporate Grind', which walks readers through simple, yet highly effective steps families can take to achieve family financial independence. It also features real-life examples of couples who've conquered these family financial independence milestones and found better lives for themselves because of it. ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Marriage Kids and Money 📕 Own Your Time: 10 Financial Steps to Put Your Family First and Escape the Corporate Grind   ⏰ Related Episodes Generosity and Smart Spending: A Family Affair | Andy Hill | 103   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Strap in, because Jackie joins Brad Barrett for a crossover episode on the ChooseFI podcast, home of the world's largest FI community! Together, they rewind all the way back to 2017, when Jackie first stumbled onto ChooseFI… and everything changed. She recounts her journey to reaching early retirement by December 2019, and using that freedom to go back to school, get her CFP, and write 'F.I.R.E. for Dummies'. Then the two of them dive deep into the fundamentals and break down what financial independence really means. They explain why even ten dollars a month can spark a lifelong investing habit, and how Jackie's first investment club taught her the power of community and compounding. They decode 401(k)s, demystify fund selection, and spotlight the quiet villain of investing: expense ratios.   The episode widens from there: debt payoff strategies, designing a modest but deeply rich life on $40–45K a year in Ohio, negotiating everything from internet bills to insurance premiums, and the emotional transformation from paycheck-to-paycheck lifestyle to feeling 'directionally correct.' They conclude with the realization that FI isn't just about money, it's about options. Whether you're a late starter, brand new or ten years into the journey; returning to the basics is how you stay grounded, stay motivated, and stay on course.   ====================   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐ChooseFI  🌐Jackie's website FInomenalWoman.com 📕F.I.R.E. For Dummies   📘Money Letters 2 My Daughter   📈Jackie's Investment Club through BetterInvesting.org   ⏰ Related Episodes The Godfather of FI Talks Fatherhood | JL Collins | 149 Stories, Hacks, & Tribes | Brad Barrett | 021 From Poverty to Wealth and Early Retirement | Jackie Cummings Koski | 007     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.  

529 plan expert Patricia Roberts blows up the myth that 'it's too late' and '529s are just for rich people with toddlers and Ivy League dreams'. She is author of the book 'Route 529' and shares some big changes with 529 plans that make them an incredibly flexible savings vehicle for more than just college. In this episode we cover: How state tax deductions, credits and 'parity states' work for contributions The shockingly long list of qualified uses including trade schools, apprenticeships, non-degree credentials, K–12 tuition, tutoring, test prep and even student loan repayment  Busting the 'use it or lose it' fear and the new option to rollover left over funds to a Roth IRA How to juggle retirement vs. college savings Advanced strategies to create generational education wealth     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Gift of College College Countdown 📕 Route 529: A Parent's Guide to Saving for College and Career Training with 529 Plans Morningstar 529 Ratings: The Best Plans of 2025 What You Can Pay for With a 529 Plan   ⏰ Related Episodes The College Discount Game You Need To Know Before Choosing A School | Ron Lieber | 191 Stop Paying for College and Use These High-Return Scholarship Hacks Instead | Chris Corinthian | 189 Banishing The Burden of Student Loan Debt | Travis Hornsby | 122      If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Dan Haylett gives us a late-starter masterclass on why retirement is a human problem long before it's a math problem. Dan is a UK financial planner, creator of 'Humans vs Retirement' podcast, and author of 'The Retirement You Didn't See Coming'.  He walks us through how that outdated 'retire from work and fade away' script clashes with modern 50- and 60-somethings who still have health, curiosity, and huge ambitions. In this episode he also: Reframes risk as the possibility of dying with plenty of money but too few memories Unpacks why spreadsheets never quite make us feel safe Lays out his three-phase map of the second half of life     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   ALLOY The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Humans vs Retirement Website & Podcast 📕 The Retirement You Didn't See Coming   ⏰ Related Episodes What Would 'Your Money' Look Like In a Simple Sketch? | Carl Richards | 170 The Father of Financial Life Planning (Part 1) | George Kinder | 140 The Three Kinder Questions (Part 2) | George Kinder | 141 Hard & Soft Sides of Retirement | Fritz Gilbert | 019     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.  

The cost of college is skyrocketing! To make sure you're not paying those sticker prices, we brought in New York Times 'Your Money' columnist, Ron Lieber. He is also author of 'The Price You Pay for College' and joins the show for a brutally honest walkthrough of what is actually going on behind the scenes. In this episode he breaks down: List price vs. cost of attendance Why most families don't pay rack rate How to read a school's 'Common Data Set' Merit vs. need-based aid How net price calculators and pre-reads can keep you from falling in love with a school you can't afford DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   ALLOY The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT THE SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 📕 Books by Ron Lieber 🌐 Merit Aid Course (with link to free merit aid checklist) Ron's New York Times Profile Niche (for comparing colleges) Saving For College (Compare 529 Plans)   ⏰ Related Episodes Stop Paying for College and Use These High-Return Scholarship Hacks Instead | Chris Corinthian | 189 Banishing The Burden of Student Loan Debt | Travis Hornsby | 122  The New World of 529 College Savings | Patricia Roberts (Coming Soon)     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.  

Bill joins Jordan 'Doc G' Grumet for a community episode on the Earn & Invest podcast. They stress-test what happens when someone asks ChatGPT: 'What should I do if I'm retiring in five years?' Bill talks about turning 60, being told he's officially reached financial independence, and shifting from accumulation to a more defensive, retirement-ready nest egg.      DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   ALLOY The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners      === SUPPORT THE SHOW === 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Earn and Invest Podcast   ⏰ Related Episodes The pURPOSE Code | Jordan Grumet | 115 A Boat Named YOLO | Bill Yount | 001   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.  

Chris Corinthian is the 'Fin Lit Guy' and knows his way around scholarships and other high-return ways to earn money for college. He joins the show to give us a masterclass on paying for college without wrecking your retirement. Chris opens with his own financial setbacks, including a layoff and a devastating fire, which helped him realize the importance of financial literacy. In this episode, you will learn: Chris' Debt-free degree triangle How teens as young as 13 can earn free college credits His scholarship system that treats applications like a part-time job Specifics of where and how to apply for scholarships     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   ALLOY The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charities: Autism Speaks Red Cross    🌐 The FinLit Guy 📕 Financial Literacy 101 for College Student 📘 Financial Literacy 101 for College Students (free digital download) My Money Mentors on PBS  EconoMe Talk The Boujee Banker Earn College Credit with CLEP Scholly Scholarships Scholarship Owl Modern States Education Alliance Raise Me     ⏰ Related Episodes Banishing The Burden of Student Loan Debt | Travis Hornsby | 122 The College Discount Game You Need To Know Before Choosing A School | Ron Lieber | 191 The New World of 529 College Savings | Patricia Roberts (Coming Soon)     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.  

Rose Lounsbury likes things simple. Her specialty is helping people embrace the art of decluttering and she joins us on the show today for a New Year's reset that goes way beyond junk drawers. Rose tells us how decluttering is really about creating space— for FI, for generosity, and for the surprising next chapter. After this episode you'll be ready for a clean start for 2026 as she walks us through: Her own minimalist journey that led her to getting rid of 70% of her stuff, while raising triplets!  The generational scripts behind our clutter and how to fix it Why we should own our stuff, not the other way around How late starters can overcome the clutter trap that quietly devours time, money, and energy Getting rid of internal clutter      DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   ALLOY The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    S U P P O R T   T H E   S H O W 📩 Sign up for our newsletter 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)   🌐 Rose Lounsbury 📘 Less: Minimalism, For Real 📗 Achievement Addict Rose's Tedx Talk: How Many Towels Do You Need Rose's EconoMe Talk: The Journey to Enough     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.  

Happy New Year! As we roll into 2026, organizing money becomes top of mind and one of the most common New Year's resolutions. So today on the show we have an expert with the leading money management app- Monarch Money, Rachel Lawrence. She is a Certified Financial Planner and fintech leader who works at the intersection of personal finance, behavior, technology, and artificial intelligence (AI). She also runs her own fee-only financial planning firm called Reverie Wealth. In this episode Rachel gives us a masterclass on how to organize your financial life with Monarch's modern way to manage money that goes beyond the basics of budgeting. Plus, we'll get a peek into what changes they have coming in 2026!     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   MONARCH MONEY The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   ALLOY The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners      📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!) 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)   🌐 Monarch Money 🌐 Reverie Wealth     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.    

Catching Up to FI co-host, Jackie Cummings Koski crosses over to Andy Panko's 'Retirement Planning Education' podcast for a funny, deeply practical masterclass on what FIRE really is (and what it isn't). Jackie is single-mom late-starter, FIRE for Dummies author, and "I retired but I'm still busy" money nerd. She rewinds her journey of retiring before 50 and walks Andy (and listeners) through: How she hit a ~$1M FI number with ~$40K annual spending Managing healthcare premiums by understanding how ACA subsidies really work Tapping her pre-tax IRA before 59.5 using 72(t) without blowing herself up Qualifying for ex-spouse Social Security benefits Medical tourism in Bali funded by her HSA Why most 401(k) menus are quietly sabotaging regular people They finish with Jackie's second act: two books, a CFP, a master's in financial planning & financial therapy, and co-hosting Catching Up to FI to help late starters realize it's not too late.     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   Monarch Money The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   Alloy The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners    📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!) 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐Retirement Planning Education 🎙️Retirement Planning Education Podcast  🌐Tenon Financial   📕 F.I.R.E. For Dummies by Jackie Cummings Koski   ⏰ 'Catching Up to FI' Episodes Retirement Planning Tips | Andy Panko | 063 From Poverty to Wealth and Early Retirement | Jackie Cummings Koski | 007   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

The Mad Fientist (Brandon Ganch) is an OG, pioneer, and giant in the Financial Independence (FI) movement! It took us a while to get him on the show, but he finally joins us for this very special holiday catch-up. Brandon is a software developer and strategically put those skills to work in creating the popular Mad Fientist blog & podcast. He's best known for deep dive experiments on tax optimization, early access to retirement funds, and other brilliant FI strategies.  Now a family man with a wife and two kids, Brandon rarely does interviews these days. But today you will get a rare glimpse into the ups and downs of his post-FI life. In this episode he candidly talks about: What he thought about money growing up and as a young adult His obsession with money and how it led to a period of depression while running the Mad Fientist blog and podcast How he traded in his extreme frugality and self-deprivation for joyful spending using his "Wealth Machines" software that has been in development for years Building his dream music studio and putting out a Billboard-charting album (Dead Pixel) and new EP (QED) Becoming a dad and asking big questions about raising children who've never seen their parents go to work     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS: 🆕NEW PARTNER:  Monarch Money The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   Alloy The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners      📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!) 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 The Mad Fientist Blog  🎙️The Mad Fientist's Financial Independence Podcast Wealth Machines Software (in beta) 🎼 Follow Brandon's Music on Spotify (1=2) 🎼 New Album (QED, 2025) 🎼 1st Album (Dead Pixel, 2021) Get Rich Slowly- J.D. Roth 📘 Ramit Sethi – I Will Teach You to Be Rich 📕 Die with Zero by Bill Perkins 📗 The Wealth Ladder by Nick Maggiulli     ⏰ 'Catching Up to FI' Episodes   The Godfather of FI Talks Fatherhood | JL Collins | 149      The pURPOSE Code | Jordan Grumet | 115     Sustainable FIlosophy with Mr. Money Mustache | Pete Adeney | 073       If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Frank Vasquez (aka 'Uncle Frank' to the FI community) returns to the show to talk gold and what this shiny speculation is actually doing in a modern FI portfolio. Frank is the voice behind Risk Parity Radio and has a knack for making even the most tangled concepts in life and investing feel approachable. In this episode he tackles: Gold as speculation, not a gamble  Gold's role in accumulation vs. retirement Typical gold allocation Correlation & diversification Physical gold vs. ETFs   DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS: 🆕NEW PARTNER:  Monarch Money The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   Alloy The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners      📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!) 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charity: The Father McKenna Center 🌐Risk Parity Radio     ⏰ 'Catching Up to FI' Episodes 'The Risk Parity Paradox' an Exercise in Simple Complexity? | Frank Vasquez | 124 SpongeBob and Drawdown Strategies | Frank Vasquez | 044   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Trae Bodge is one of the country's leading smart-shopping and personal-savings experts. You've probably seen her on CNBC and Good Morning America, or in publications like The New York Times, USA Today, and MarketWatch. She joins us on the show for a holiday-season intervention on spending, shopping, and gift-giving. Trae also shares news about her, mom-inspired Threadneedle Alley Foundation, a nonprofit that provides grants and guidance to midlife entrepreneurs facing financial challenges. Through Dec. 31, 2025, entrepreneurs ages 40 and up can apply for a $5,000 grant and ongoing mentorship .      🎁 🎁 🎁A Special Gift from our friend... The Mad Fientist (only through Dec 10th) Brandon Ganch's (aka The Mad Fientist) is one of the early pioneers of the FI Movement and has shared his knowledge and brilliant resources with millions of people for over a decade. He will be featured on our holiday episode (releasing on 12/21/25). This holiday season he has a brand new beta software called Wealthmachines.co, a complete system designed for financial independence that focuses on your assets and the income they generate. Even though he's brilliant at developing software, his real passion is music, and he has a new album coming out with a juicy offer! Until December 10th, he is gifting early access to you before it goes to a monthly subscription when you purchase his new album. Here's how you can support his passion and get his software:   Preorder his brand new EP Album for $4.99 before December 10th on Amazon Music (or other music retailers) and ​follow him on ​Spotify (help him get to 1000 subscribers) Send a copy of the receipt to fi@madfientist.com​ Go to Wealthmachines.co and click the "Get Access" link in the top right corner to get free access. Note: The public release won't be until 2027, but you'll be able to start using it as soon as it's ready. Also, you will NOT need to pay an annual fee once the app becomes publicly available (the annual fee will be more than the EP's cost, every single year)!     DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:   🆕NEW PARTNER:  Monarch Money The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50   Alloy   The Alloy Market offers a seamless and efficient way to sell your gold, silver, and platinum jewelry, regardless of its condition. They are committed to transparency and fairness, ensuring you get the best possible value for your items. Use this special Link and enter code CUTOFI15 to get a $15 bonus when you sell items over $199 (limited time offer).  For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners      📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!) 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question     RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charity:  Threadneedle Alley  🌐 TrueTrae.com     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!     ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.