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Original Jurisdiction, a podcast about law and the legal profession, features host David Lat interviewing some of the most interesting, influential, and important people in the world of law. It's the companion podcast to Lat's Substack newsletter of the same name. You can follow David on Twitter (@DavidLat) or email him at [email protected], and you can subscribe to his newsletter at davidlat.substack.com.

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The rise of the management service organization (MSO) will reshape—and is already reshaping—the legal industry. In terms of important trends for the business of law, it’s up there with the rise of AI. But unlike AI, relatively few people know much about MSOs, including the basics of how they work and why they’re taking off.Trisha Rich—a longtime partner at Holland & Knight, where she leads the firm’s national Legal Profession Team—is one of the nation’s leading experts on MSOs. If you’re looking for an excellent primer on the MSO phenomenon and its implications for the legal world, you’ve come to the right place.Thanks to Trish for taking the time to speak with me about such a significant subject—one that anyone interested in the legal industry and profession needs to know about.Show notes:* Trisha M. Rich bio, Holland & Knight LLP* Restructuring Law Firms Through Management Service Organizations, by Joshua E. Porte, Trisha M. Rich, and Leonard C. Brahin* Everything Old Is New Again: Why Law Firm MSOs Fit Comfortably Within Existing Ethics Rules, by Trisha M. Rich, Joshua E. Porte, Charles E. Graham III, William A. Ringhofer, and Leonard C. Brahin* Law Firm Structure & Regulation Heat Map, by Trisha M. Rich and Joshua E. PorteSponsored by:NexFirm helps Biglaw attorneys become founding partners. To learn more about how NexFirm can help you launch your firm, call 212-292-1000 or email [email protected]. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit davidlat.substack.com/subscribe
Within the world of legal nerds, there has been a lot of buzz lately about originalism, the theory of constitutional interpretation that calls for interpreting the Constitution based on the original public meaning of its provisions. Some of this might be due to the start of the latest Term of the U.S. Supreme Court, and some of this might be connected to the publication of Justice Samuel Alito’s new book, So Ordered: An Originalist’s View of the Constitution, the Court, and Our Country.In light of this, I was delighted to speak with Professor Sherif Girgis of Notre Dame Law School, a leading scholar of originalism and a former law clerk to Justice Alito. In our conversation, Sherif and I covered what he views as the best argument in support of originalism, as well as the particular type of originalism he espouses (because originalism is not a monolith). We also discussed the current Supreme Court, including what grade he would give it; the chances that the justices will overrule Obergefell v. Hodges, which recognized the constitutional right to same-sex marriage; and the past, present, and future of the First Amendment.Thanks to Sherif for joining me—and congratulations to him on his upcoming move to Harvard Law School.Show notes:* Sherif Girgis bio, The University of Notre Dame Law School* What Is Originalism? | Interview: Sherif Girgis, by Sarah Isgur and David French for Advisory Opinions* Sherif Girgis joins the Harvard Law faculty, by Harvard Law News StaffSponsored by:NexFirm helps Biglaw attorneys become founding partners. To learn more about how NexFirm can help you launch your firm, call 212-292-1000 or email [email protected]. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit davidlat.substack.com/subscribe
Earlier this month, Jaime Santos joined Proskauer Rose, making her the latest in a series of appellate advocates to switch firms in 2026. She came from Goodwin, where she practiced for more than a dozen years and served as co-head of the Supreme Court and appellate practice.What led Jaime to make the move, and what does she think is driving all the lateral hiring in the space? With a new Supreme Court Term starting this coming Monday, which cases is she watching? And as the first ERISA and employee-benefits lawyer I’ve had on the podcast (after more than 100 episodes), what does she see as the key emerging issues in the field?Thanks to Jaime for such an interesting and inspiring conversation, and congratulations to her on joining Proskauer.Show notes:* Jaime Santos bio, Proskauer Rose LLP* Goodwin Supreme Court Group Chief Santos Bolts for Proskauer, by Meghan Tribe and Jacklyn Wille for Bloomberg Law* Proskauer Hires Goodwin Procter’s Supreme Court Co-Head, by Kevin Penton for Law360Sponsored by:NexFirm helps Biglaw attorneys become founding partners. To learn more about how NexFirm can help you launch your firm, call 212-292-1000 or email [email protected]. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit davidlat.substack.com/subscribe
Five years ago this fall, Mathew Rosengart made international headlines when he secured the termination of the 13-year conservatorship of pop icon Britney Spears. But while he might be most famous for how he helped #FreeBritney, Rosengart has litigated many major matters over the years, representing clients ranging from Hollywood celebrities like Sean Penn and Selena Gomez to multinational corporations like Meta and Verizon.How did Mathew, co-chair of the media and entertainment litigation group at Greenberg Traurig, get to where he is today? Last week, I had the pleasure of interviewing him about his remarkable career. We discussed his clerkship with David Souter, then a justice of the New Hampshire Supreme Court; his service as a federal prosecutor, where he handled several high-profile cases; and his current practice at the highest levels of entertainment law and litigation.Thanks to Mathew for joining me on this must-listen episode of the Original Jurisdiction podcast.Show notes:* Mathew S. Rosengart bio, Greenberg Traurig* Mathew Rosengart, Hollywood’s King of Litigators, Talks Britney Spears Conservatorship, Early Legal Influences and Standing Up Against Bullies, by Malina Saval for Variety* The Man of Steel, by Elizabeth Gehrman for BC Law School Magazine* Justice Souter’s book list, by Mathew Rosengart for SCOTUSblogSponsored by:NexFirm helps Biglaw attorneys become founding partners. To learn more about how NexFirm can help you launch your firm, call 212-292-1000 or email careerdevelopment at nexfirm.com. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit davidlat.substack.com/subscribe
Legal AI is a big deal—and a big business. How do we know this? It’s attracting interest beyond specialized, law-focused providers like Harvey and Legora (which are themselves already multibillion-dollar businesses).Last month, Google announced Gemini Enterprise for Legal, part of the company’s growing suite of purpose-built industry solutions. But what makes this new product different from general-purpose AI?To learn more about Gemini Enterprise for Legal, I interviewed Halimah DeLaine Prado, who has served as GC of Google since 2020. But given the breadth and importance of Halimah’s role and Google’s many appearances in the news these days, we covered other subjects as well—including the ad-tech antitrust litigation, in which a major ruling came down last week, and the proliferation of lawsuits against social-media platforms like YouTube, which Google owns.Thanks to Halimah for her time and insight, and congrats to her and her colleagues on the launch of Gemini Enterprise for Legal.Show notes:* Halimah DeLaine Prado bio and blog posts, Google* Exclusive: Google’s general counsel says AI can’t replace human judgment, by Ina Fried for Axios* Now introducing Gemini Enterprise for Legal, by Thomas Kurian for Google CloudSponsored by:NexFirm helps Biglaw attorneys become founding partners. To learn more about how NexFirm can help you launch your firm, call 212-292-1000 or email [email protected]. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit davidlat.substack.com/subscribe
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