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A podcast series hosted by four optometrists delivering knowledge and insight into the optometry world across Canada and the U.S. Subscribe and join us every week while we share info, tips and interviews with all bad-ass optometrists across the continent.

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In this case reflection episode, Deepon walks us through uveitis cases that didn’t exactly go as planned, because let’s be honest, not every case fits neatly into the textbook.We share what went right, what went sideways, and how we navigated the unexpected twists that come with managing inflammatory eye disease in the real world.From differentiating anterior vs intermediate vs posterior uveitis, to grading inflammation clearly in your charts so your associate ODs can easily follow your management, we cover practical strategies you can apply in the clinic tomorrow. We’ll also break down when and how to order lab workups.Whether you’re a new grad still getting comfortable with the slit lamp or an OD looking to refine your charting and workup flow — this episode will help you feel more confident tackling your next uveitis case (even the tricky ones)! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
High astigmatism in pediatrics is one of the most common challenges optometrists face in the exam room. In this Case Reflection episode, Amrit walks through a case where she approached a young patient’s high astigmatism in a way that went beyond the standard playbook.Instead of reaching straight for a full cycloplegic refraction and prescribing the high numbers, we undercorrected strategically and focused on the binocular vision issue driving the child’s visual symptoms. The result? The child’s acuity improved, their visual system developed more efficiently, and they didn’t have to rely on an unnecessarily high refractive error.In this episode, we explore why high astigmatism often shows up in pediatric exams, talk about the limitations of relying only on cycloplegia, and share how functional prescribing and binocular vision treatment can transform outcomes.If you’ve ever wondered how to manage high pediatric prescriptions in a way that supports long-term visual development rather than just clearing up the chart, this is an episode you don’t want to miss!You can learn more from the following resources: Lens Power in Action by Robert Kraskin Optometric Management of Nearpoint Vision Disorders by Martin H. Birnbaum  Pediatric Eye Care Masterclass course OEPF Art & Science Course The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
In this refreshingly honest episode, we chat with Dr. Meenal Agarwal, an Optometrist and private practice owner, about the mental health challenges that often come with life after optometry school.Geared toward students and new grads, this conversation covers: What burnout really feels like and when to hit reset How to build a sustainable work/life balance by aligning yourself Setting boundaries with staff, patients, and even yourself Why it’s okay to not have it all figured out Dr. Agarwal shares her own story, red flags to watch for, and her best advice for navigating your early years in practice with compassion and perspective. The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Learn more about Dr. Agarwal by listening to her podcast, Uncover Your Eyes:
Curious about how optometrists are expanding into the world of aesthetics? In this episode, Dr. Carly Rose shares how she built Clear Eyes + Aesthetics—a dry eye specialty clinic—and what that journey looked like from the ground up. Dr. Rose shares how she chose which aesthetic services to offer (and which to avoid), how she screens for ocular aesthetic concerns during a routine eye exam, and what steps her team took to safely expand into procedures like fillers and neuromodulators. If you’re a student or new grad exploring where your optometry career could take you, this episode is full of insight into a niche that’s equal parts clinical, cosmetic, and full of opportunity! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Check out the services offered by Dr. Rose at Clear Eyes + Aesthetics Learn more from Dr. Rose on Instagram: @doctorrosetalks
In this episode, we speak with Dr. Christina Gratkowski, an optometrist who blends functional medicine with eye care to uncover the root causes of chronic eye conditions. With functional medicine gaining momentum—especially among younger generations seeking answers beyond traditional treatments—Dr. Gratkowski shares why this whole-body approach is transforming the healthcare conversation.We dive into how gut health, inflammation, and systemic imbalances often show up as eye symptoms, and why optometrists are in a unique position to spot early signs of internal dysfunction. From skin conditions like eczema and rosacea to persistent dry eye, Dr. Gratkowski explains how functional medicine offers long-term solutions by addressing the "why" behind the symptoms.The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD ConnectDownload Dr. Gratkowski’s e-book on healing eczema around the eyelids through nutrition and lifestyle
In this episode of Four Eyes, we sit down with Dr. Marcella LaBelle, an optometrist in Alberta with over 20 years of experience in refractive surgical care, to dive into the world of intraocular and light-adjustable lenses. From identifying ideal candidates (even those without cataracts) to demystifying premium IOLs and new technologies on the horizon, Dr. LaBelle shares expert insights every primary care OD should hear. We also discuss what makes the light-adjustable lens a game-changer for those with advanced dry eyes and corneal issues. Tune in for a sharp, informative discussion packed with clinical pearls you won’t want to miss! For more information, contact Dr. Labelle: Marcella.labelle@claritylaservision.com The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
In honor of the podcast’s fifth year anniversary, Deepon and Amrit host another popular Happy Hour episode and play an Optometry version of “Have You Ever”. So grab your drink, sit back, and listen as our two hosts go down memory lane of their most wild patient experiences!
Headaches are one of the most common patient complaints—but how do you know if they’re vision-related? In this episode, Dr. Kar and Dr. Bilkhu break down different types of headaches, key signs that point to a visual cause, and when to refer for urgent medical attention. We also dive into treatment strategies, from prescribing plus lenses and NeuroLens to specialty tints like Avulux and FL-41, and syntonics phototherapy. Whether it’s accommodative dysfunction, binocular vision issues, or screen-related eye strain, you’ll leave with practical tools to help your patients (and maybe even yourself!) find relief. The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
Part two of our conversation with Dr. Sophia Leung takes a clinical turn as she shares her top tips for managing corneal diseases and dystrophies in primary care practice. We discuss red flags to watch for, when to treat versus refer, and practical advice for navigating complex corneal cases. If you’re looking to elevate your skills in corneal care or enhance your confidence in managing anterior segment conditions, this episode is a must-listen! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Sophia Leung, an exceptional Optometrist specializing in cornea and anterior segment disease. Part one dives into Dr. Leung’s journey to becoming a cornea specialist, including her transition from private practice to a residency in Oklahoma, relationships she’s developed working alongside ophthalmology, and a day in the life as a corneal specialist in Calgary, Alberta. Whether you’re a student exploring optometry specialties or a practicing OD considering a deeper focus in corneal care, this episode offers valuable insights and inspiration! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Resources mentioned: Modern Optometry MOD Live Conferences Sally Letson Symposium Review of Optometry Eyes on Eyecare
In this episode of our New Grad Case Reflection series, Dr. Kar shares an interesting case of one (small but mighty) dot hemorrhage causing chaos for the doctor and the patient. How far would you go to investigate one minor finding in the retina? Join Dr. Kar as she reflects on the case that was shared by her colleague, who saved a patient’s vision from permanent damage. What would you have done in her shoes? Share your thoughts with us by tagging @foureyesoptom in your Instagram stories! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
In this episode of our New Grad Case Reflection series, we dive into the challenges of managing a patient who consistently abused their contact lens wear. Patient education on contact lens hygiene is vital, but what happens when they ignore your advice?    Join Dr. Bilkhu as she reflects on her experience as a new grad optometrist, dealing with a patient who resisted her professional advice. What would you have done in her shoes? Share your thoughts with us by tagging @foureyesoptom in your Instagram stories! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
Dr. Bilkhu and Dr. Kar dive into an alternative perspective on myopia that challenges the traditional medical approach. While current treatments often focus on myopia as a problem of it’s own, Dr. Bilkhu shares insights on why myopia may actually be a symptom of a deeper problem: near visual stress. Together, the hosts explore how the behavioral approach suggests that as long as the eyes are under stress, myopia will continue to worsen, regardless of the treatment applied. Tune in to hear how optometrists can expand their understanding of myopia progression, incorporating behavioral practices to complement their medical treatment plans. This episode invites you to think outside the box and consider the underlying root causes of myopia that general optometry may not fully recognize. A must-listen for anyone ready to rethink their approach to myopia management and provide more holistic care to their patients! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Check out the Art and Science course by OEPF Check out these books discussing Myopia and Nearpoint Stress: Optometric Management of Nearpoint Vision Disorders by Martin H. Birnbaum Lens Power in Action by Robert A. Kraskin Looking Differently at Nearsightedness and Myopia: The Visual Process and the Myth of 20/20 by Steven J. Gallop
In this episode, Drs. Kar and Bilkhu share their personal tips to help new grad ODs master refraction skills. Learn from their experiences to reduce pesky prescription redos, create an exceptional patient experience, and even boost optical sales as an associate OD. These insights will help you build trust with your patients and ensure they leave your office feeling truly appreciated from just a simple refraction. Tune in, and take your skills to the next level! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect
Join Dr. Kar and Dr. Bilkhu as they interview Dr. Michael Neal, an Optometrist and founder of Build My Team – an innovative company transforming how optometry practices hire staff members. Dr. Neal discusses the limitations of traditional interview methods and shares how Build My Team identifies the strengths and weaknesses of candidates to place them in roles where they can excel. We also discuss how these assessments apply to associate Optometrists to ensure they are a great fit for the practice. Tune in for valuable insights and advice to take your hiring process to the next level!
In this episode, we dive deep into the revolutionary role of AI in clinical trials and patient care with George Magrath, MD, an esteemed ophthalmologist and the CEO of a cutting-edge pharmaceutical company specializing in ophthalmic drug development. Dr. Magrath shares his expertise, having trained in ocular oncology at the renowned Wills Eye Hospital in Philadelphia. Dr. Magrath shares the innovative ways AI is being used in clinical trials, from patient selection to the development of new eye care medications. He also discusses how AI can accelerate the availability of effective ocular treatments and address wealth inequality in US health care. Lastly, we'll look ahead to the future prospects of AI in transforming ophthalmic pharmaceutical developments. Tune in to discover how AI is reshaping the landscape of eye care and improving patient outcomes! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Learn more about Dr. Magrath Learn more about companies using revolutionary AI technology in the medical space: Voxeleron, Verana Health, RETINA-AI
Dr. Diana Chu is an optometrist at the Washington Eye Institute. In this episode, we learn about Dr. Chu’s first hand encounter with a concussion, exploring her path to recovery. She highlights the validity of symptoms even in the absence of physical injury, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing one’s recovery journey. Dr. Chu also reviews biomarkers to detect nutritional and hormonal imbalances associated with a head injury, and the importance of seeing various allied healthcare professionals to ensure a comprehensive approach to recovery. The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Learn more about Dr. Diana Chu Learn more about concussion-related vision challenges through the following organizations: VTC, COVD, NORA, and OEPF
Dr. Hardeep Kataria, a seasoned Optometrist practicing advanced dry eye at Avant Eyes in California, returns to the podcast to discuss the vital role of mentorship in the journey of optometry. We discuss the profound impact mentorship can have on shaping your career and personal growth at various stages. From guidance in clinical practice to navigating the anxieties of selecting a practice modality, mentorship from either seasoned Optometrists or your peers can provide support and knowledge.  For those seeking mentorship opportunities, check out YoungOD Connect's mentorship program, providing a structured platform for new grad Optometrists to connect with seasoned mentors and peers alike! Learn more about Dr. Hardeep Kataria Become a member for YoungOD Connect’s mentorship program
Amrit and Deepon chat with Dr. Arian Fartash, creator of GlamBaby, about her new line GlamBaby Dry Eye. Dr. Fartash combined her optometric knowledge and parenting experience to create dry eye products catered for infants and toddlers. Tune-in to hear more details about how she designed, manufactured, and marketed these products to other optometrists, online retailers, and big box stores across the world! The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Learn more about GlamBaby products here Follow Dr. Fartash on Instagram @glamoptometrist
Join Dr. Bilkhu in her discussion with Dr. Mila Ioussifova about taking a holistic approach to dry eye disease. Dr. Ioussifova is a residency-trained optometrist with a private practice in Portland, OR. She is dedicated to helping patients with dry eye disease and offers advanced dry eye therapies in her practice. Dr. Mila Ioussifova recently studied human nutrition and functional medicine at the University of Western States and is in the process of becoming a Certified Nutrition Specialist. She is passionate about treating dry eye disease while incorporating nutritional and lifestyle changes. The Four Eyes Podcast is brought to you by YoungOD Connect Learn more about Dr. Mila Ioussifova on Instagram Learn more about The Institute for Functional Medicine
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