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Human School
Author: Patil Armenian, MD
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Working at the edge of life and death, in 2 medical specialties - emergency medicine and medical toxicology, Dr. Patil Armenian has seen a lot. Join Dr. Armenian as she shares stories & lessons (sometimes learned the hard way), interviews inspiring mentors, physicians, researchers & authors, and explores tools that can help navigate our busy lives. Though her philosophies were born in a busy Emergency Department, they apply to anyone trying to live a joyful life here on Earth. Welcome to Human School! Follow on IG @humanschoolpodcast & @patilarmenianmd
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Last week I hit a major milestone: 20 years in emergency medicine! I've now spent almost half my life as an emergency physician and haven't just learned a lot of medicine, but also about humanity as a whole and myself as an individual. The emergency department, or ED as we like to call it, helped me to find my voice and not be afraid to speak out loud. It has helped me to recognize both the large life and death stories but also the smaller moments in between that can be just as valuable. I ta...
Dr. Paul Daley is the co-founder, Chief Science Officer, and Chemist at the Alexander Shulgin Research Institute. He began to work with Dr. Alexander 'Sasha' Shulgin in 2007 to synthesize novel psychedelic compounds and co-author The Shulgin Index. In addition to his work in psychedelic chemistry, Dr. Daley has published extensively in the fields of integrated pest management, plant photosynthesis, environmental chemistry, and analytical instrumentation. In this episode, we discuss his work p...
Ali Thurner is the Vice President of Marketing for Blue Moon Yoga and Wellness, but I know her best as my favorite yoga teacher! She also teaches people how to deepen their practice and learn how to teach through the yoga teacher training (YTT) offered at Blue Moon. I've intermittently practiced Vinyasa yoga for many years, but for a little over a year I've practiced on a routine basis and it's helped me to feel stronger, more energetic and clear my mind. In this episode, we discuss the diffe...
Dr. Danielle Campagne is an emergency physician and the Chair of the Department of Emergency Medicine at UCSF Fresno and Community Regional Medical Center in Fresno, California and Medical Director at American Ambulance, the largest prehospital provider in Central California. She leads one of the most established emergency departments in the US with incredible heart, tenacity, and altruism. She is also an amazing mother, wife, daughter, sister and friend. Dr. Campagne is a great example of so...
I'm once again joined by my sister Garin Hussenjian, who co-hosts this episode. She's G and I'm P, in case you were wondering! Today I have her tell the second half of a story, that at first glance is simply about a road trip that she went on. However, as we get into the details of why she went, and what was going on in her life at the time, it seems like certain signs were pushing her to go on this journey. To put it into perspective, she is a wife, mother of 2 kids who was working a busy fu...
I'm once again joined by my sister Garin Hussenjian, who co-hosts this episode. She's G and I'm P, in case you were wondering! Today I have her tell the first half of a story, that at first glance is simply about a road trip that she went on. However, as we get into the details of why she went, and what was going on in her life at the time, it seems like certain signs were pushing her to go on this journey. To put it into perspective, she is a wife, mother of 2 kids who was working a busy ful...
I often think about the topic today's guest, Dr. Mona Sobhani, has researched and written about. Can science and spirituality coexist? I, like many others who work in a hospital, have seen too much, and heard too many sad stories. In order for me to make sense of it all, I feel like there has to be something more out there, because otherwise it would be too heartbreaking and meaningless. In this episode, we have a great conversation about all of this, giving us hope that the mysteries of huma...
In this episode, I answer some questions from the audience including: 1. What do you like most about being in Fresno? 2. If you hadn't gone into the medical field, what would you be doing today? 3. Why did you choose your specialties- emergency medicine & medical toxicology? 4. What's the type of injury you see the most and why do you think that is? 5. How can we advocate for ourselves and our health while working with doctors? 6. What is your most shocking or funny ER story? I had a lo...
Ann and Alexander 'Sasha' Shulgin were psychedelic pioneers, and their immense influence continues to be felt today. In this episode, I discuss my meeting them as a young toxicologist-in-training and the lessons I've learned from them over the years. Sasha Shulgin was a chemist and psychopharmacologist who invented about 200 psychoactive compounds including the 2C-series. He was also the first person to synthesize, and then take MDMA in the US, introducing it to others including therapists su...
Ariel Clark is an Odawa Anishinaabe attorney advising clients in highly regulated and emerging ecosystems. For over 15 years, Ariel has provided business, corporate, and regulatory support to organizations, non-profits, government agencies, tribes, healthcare providers, and practitioners with an emphasis on cannabis, plant medicines, and psychedelics. Ariel is actively engaged in the conversation about “psychedelic lawyering” (ethical lawyering grounded in our responsibilities to all our rela...
Back on the podcast is our most popular guest, Leo Max! Leo is a spiritual hypnotherapist who helps clients go deep into inner child and shadow work to reconnect the mind, body and spirit. In this episode, we talk about current themes coming up for his clients in hypnotherapy sessions, such as childhood trauma, separations and soul purpose. The conversation also delves into the mental challenges faced by healthcare professionals, the significance of safe emotional spaces, and the energy ...
On June 4, 2024, the FDA Psychopharmacologic Drugs Advisory Committee met to discuss the new drug application submitted by Lykos Therapeutics [for-profit public benefit corporation (PBC) initially part of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies)] for MDMA in addition to psychotherapy to treat post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). MDMA, otherwise known as midomafetamine, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, Ecstasy, or Molly is a Schedule I drug that shows great promise for trea...
In this episode, I discuss the lineage of mentoring, which is different than your ancestral or family lineage, but still very important. This is about the mentors that have guided you in your life and then, who you mentor yourself. It's a never-ending cycle of teacher to student to teacher again. I spend some time telling stories about one of my mentors, Dr. Gene Kallsen. The mentor-mentee relationship is something I come back again and again on this podcast (see episodes 1, 2, 6, 10, 1...
As a medical toxicologist, I take care of people of all ages who have any type of poisoning, overdose, envenomation or medication misadventure. One of our core tenets in toxicology is 'the dose makes the poison' and the cases I discuss in this episode demonstrate that very fact. Taking care of sick poisoned patients isn't just about the immediate care but also involves detective work, to figure out exactly what happened and sometimes place it in the context of the community at large. It...
I'm once again joined by my sister Garin Hussenjian, who co-hosts this episode. She's G and I'm P, in case you were wondering! This is the second episode in a 2-part series about my fertility process. Check out episode 18 for the first half of the series! This episode covers how I shifted my mindset and relationship with my body in order to have a successful pregnancy. I made many small changes which made a real difference and was helped by a community of family, friends, and both Western and...
This is a short 5 minute meditation guided by Garin Hussenjian with handpan played by Garo Hussenjian. It's perfect for a still or walking meditation, as a micro break reset any time of the day. Please rate&review, share, and follow the podcast! Instagram: @humanschoolpodcast & @patilarmenianmd Music courtesy of Zach Effron, MD
I'm once again joined by my sister Garin Hussenjian, who co-hosts this episode. She's G and I'm P, in case you were wondering! Today we delve into a very personal and sometimes difficult to discuss topic, fertility. Specifically, Garin asks all about my fertility process and we don't hold back. This is the first episode in a 2 part series and covers how I found out my husband and I had fertility issues and the road to starting IVF, or in-vitro fertilization. Next episode, I'll talk all about ...
This is a soundbath meditation piece, best experienced while laying down with your eyes closed. It can also be used in seated or walking meditations, or just relaxation in general. This sound tapestry is woven by the women of the Sounds of the Light collective: Kathryn Sanchez and Wonda Correia. They use crystal bowls, a gong, chimes, Shruti box, rain stick, and hand drums to both calm and energize you. Follow Sounds of the Light on Instagram: @soundsofthelight @kathryn_sarah_sty...
Leslie Galbraith is an expert Astrologer who joins us on this episode to discuss general principles of Astrology. Astrology isn't just about the 12 zodiac signs and which one you were born in. Rather, as Leslie puts it, it is a detailed symbolic language for understanding human nature and energetic patterns of behavior. As she describes, the natal birth chart is a map of your soul’s constitution and a guide to track the cycles of experience in your life. Like other birth place/time base...
When taking care of really sick patients in the ER, we always begin with our ABC's: Airway, Breathing and Circulation. Those 3 things have to be secure in order to move on to the next step of helping someone. In this episode, I discuss how the airway taught me valuable life lessons about asking for help. Many of us are great at being helpful to others, but what about when we need help? The bottom line is, learn how to be really good at something, but also know when to ask for help. A lesson I...



