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Author: Katie Dozier and Timothy Green

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Katie Dozier of TheNFTPoetryGallery.com and Timothy Green of Rattle.com discuss all things poetry in this free-wheeling live-recorded podcast. New episodes every Friday at noon ET.
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In this episode, we talk with Jackdaw Review founding editor Anna DiMartino about how to start a lit mag from scratch. We dig into naming your literary magazine, defining a clear editorial mission, choosing platforms and submission policies, handling fees and unpaid labor, and building a sustainable readership without burning out. If you’ve ever dreamed of launching your own online poetry journal or print literary magazine, this episode is your practical guide to getting started.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenAnna DiMartinoJoe Barca
Jane Hirshfield returns to continue our assay of assays, and to talk about poetry's smallest forms—her pebbles and haiku. Jane's poetry provides proof that a few words can hold whole worlds, and that brevity itself may be one of the deepest forms of generosity.At the table:Jane Hirshfield Katie Dozier Timothy Green Dick Westheimer Brian O'Sullivan
Poet, Zen practitioner, and word-miner Jane Hirshfield joins us to talk about her signature form—the assay. We hear the fascinating story of how she created assays, and why curiosity might just be poetry’s truest form.At the table:Jane HirshfieldKatie DozierTimothy GreenDick WestheimerBrian O'Sullivan
Continuing on in our series of checking out current lit mags, we were excited to look at these two with a lot in common. Both The Mississippi Review and The Florida Review were founded in 1972 and affiliated with universities. Will one of these two journals reign supreme in our battle of cold-read poems?At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy Green
ep. 116 - Hosting

ep. 116 - Hosting

2025-10-2401:03:45

What makes a poetry event truly work? From open-mic chaos to moments of real poetic hospitality, we're joined by Rick Lupert to explore the art of hosting. We trade stories, share practical tips, and share a few poems to explore how a good host creates space for both laughter and vulnerability.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenRick LupertDick Westheimer 
In the second half of our series with Gregory Orr, the conversation turns to grief, tenderness, and the healing power of the lyric. We talk about Emily Dickinson’s role and the role of the lyric in contemporary poetry. If part one asks what the lyric is, part two asks what it’s for—and how it helps us endure what can’t be said any other way.At the Table:Gregory OrrKatie DozierTimothy GreenDick WestheimerBrian O'SullivanJoe Barca
What does it mean to write the kind of poem that saves your life? In the first half of our two-part conversation on lyric poetry, we're joined by Gregory Orr to explore that urge to capture private emotion in a single, shining moment. We read and unpack Orr’s poems and look to the past to tracing how feeling becomes a form in itself. Join us as we ask what lyric poetry can do in a noisy world—and why it keeps calling us back. Inevitably, Katie brings up haiku again!At the Table:Gregory OrrKatie DozierTimothy GreenDick WestheimerBrian O'SullivanJoe Barca
Katie and Tim crack open their college-era poems—complete with awkward workshop moments, zany titles, and even Tim’s hilarious old pseudonym. From Katie's days at Florida State University with tutelage from Barbara Hamby and David Kirby, to Tim stumbling into an "Intro to Poetry" course with James Longenbach, this episode is fueled by memories. We rip apart our regretful diction, and explore just how far our poetry has come. Or at least, how far we hope it has!At the Table:Katie Dozier
Katie, Tim and the Squad continue exploring persona poems with Suji Kwock Kim’s "Monologue for an Onion," Ai’s "The Kid." They also share their own work—Dick Westheimer’s "Eve Corrects the Record" and Eve’s "First Bite," Brian O’Sullivan’s "No! In Thunder," Joe Barca’s "Abraham Lincoln Talks to His Therapist," Timothy Green’s "Sirhan Sirhan Under Hypnosis" and Katie Dozier’s "Teddy Bear Arithmetic." Together, we investigate how persona lets poets slip into other voices, from biblical figures to assassins to household objects, and what writing in persona truly means. At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenJoe BarcaDick WestheimerBrian O’Sullivan 
In this episode of The Poetry Space_, we explore the power of persona poems. We dive into Robert Browning’s "My Last Duchess," William Blake’s "The Chimney Sweeper," Nikky Finney’s "Red Velvet," Margaret Atwood’s "Pig Song," and James Tate’s "The Motorcyclists." What happens when poets speak through masks, giving voice to dukes, children, pigs, and even storms? Join us as we unpack how persona reveals hidden truths, sparks empathy, and complicates the line between poet and speaker.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenJoe BarcaDick WestheimerBrian O’Sullivan 
In the second half of our visit with Billy Collins, the door stays wide open. We talk dogs, humor, memory, and the surprising turns that make his poems feel like they’ve been waiting for us all along. If the first episode was the invitation, this one’s the living room conversation you never want to leave.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenBilly CollinsDick WesthiemerJoe BarcaNate JacobBrian O'Sullivan
Billy Collins joins Katie and Tim for a conversation that we hope feels like one of his poems: open-armed, slyly funny, and disarming in the best way. We dive into the idea of poetic hospitality—how a poem welcomes its reader in—and explore how Billy pulls off that rare trick of being both approachable and profound.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenBilly CollinsDick WesthiemerJoe BarcaNate JacobBrian O'Sullivan
The first episode that falls under the new “current state of lit mags” banner, Katie, Tim and the Squad examine the New Yorker which has been in print for 100 years. Will the institution’s high profile equate to a consistently high caliber of poems? Listen in as we discuss recent poems to appear in the New Yorker by Maya C. Popa, Jericho Brown, Ocean Vuong, and Bob Hicok.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenJoe BarcaDick Westheimer
After a summer break, Katie and Tim return to the ring—the poetry ring, that is—to pit two literary heavyweights against each other: the venerable Poetry Magazine and the nimble 32 Poems. Who’s got the more electrifying lines, the sharper editorial eye? In this episode, Katie and Tim swap hot takes, and maybe even disagree (politely…mostly). In the end, one will take home the championship belt, but you’ll be the real winner for tuning in.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy Green
What happens when you pit a hoops-loving narrative philosopher against a tight-lipped Zen wit with a side hustle in metaphysical mischief? You get this episode of The Poetry Space_, where Pulitzer Prize winners Stephen Dunn and Kay Ryan go poem-to-poem in a lyrical Duel that’s part therapy session and part riddle wrapped in enjambment.Dunn brings conversational wisdom and emotional nuance to the ring. Ryan counters with compressed clarity and punchlines precise enough to crack granite. Who wins? Who learns? Who makes the best metaphors out of antiquated outergarments? Tune in to find out.At the table:Katie DozierTimothy Green
Is the influence of the Imagists alive in contemporary poetry? In this episode, Katie, Tim and the Squad take a look at how their own poems may have been influenced by the poets of the previous episode. What is the true importance of imagery in poetry, and how can contemporary poets harness the power of writing over a hundred years after the Imagists?At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenJoe BarcaDick WestheimerBrian O’Sullivan
ep. 104 - The Imagists

ep. 104 - The Imagists

2025-06-1354:37

A bit over a hundred years ago, Ezra Pound corralled a group known as the Imagists that would have a profound effect on poetry as we know it. A controversial figure, Pound explored and enlivened the economy of language and rich images that became founding principles of the group, along with H.D. (Hilda Doolittle), Richard Aldington, William Carlos Williams, Amy Lowell, and F.S. Flint.At the Table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenJoe BarcaDick WestheimerBrian O’Sullivan
ep. 103 - Fair Use

ep. 103 - Fair Use

2025-06-0635:38

What constitutes fair use when it comes to poetry? Is the Cento form illegal? While this is obviously not legal advice, as no one should seek that from any podcast, let alone one primarily related to poetry, exploring fair use turned out to be as fun as reading a good poem! We covered many questions from listeners that were posed to us over social media. Note: While we initially set out to cover both copyright and fair use in this episode, we realized it would be better split into half-sandwiches for easier consumption.At the Table:Timothy GreenKatie Dozier
ep. 102 - Copyright

ep. 102 - Copyright

2025-05-3043:18

In one of our most-requested topics, Tim fields many questions. While this is obviously not legal advice, as no one should seek that from any podcast, let alone one primarily related to poetry, we had a lot of “fun” exploring this topic. Just ask Sheryl Crow (who has no idea this podcast exists)! We covered many questions from listeners that were posed to us over social media. Note: While we initially set out to cover both copyright and fair use in this episode, we realized it would be better split into half-sandwiches for easier consumption.At the Table:Timothy GreenKatie Dozier
Delving deeper into the matter of spirituality in poetry, we begin this episode by hearing Dick Westheimer read his poem, “Perhaps Prayer is Thinly Scattered Matter,” and are treated to more poetry by special guest Deacon Chris Anderson, as well as poems by Ada Limón, Rhina Espaillat, and José A. Alcántara.At the table:Katie DozierTimothy GreenChris AndersonDick WestheimerJoe BarcaNate Jacob Brian O’Sullivan
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