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A close look at the work of the Coen brothers through the lens of their unproduced screenplay To the White Sea, based on the novel by James Dickey. Hosted by filmmakers Jordan Fish and Ray Tintori, and featuring awesome guests. Every week we read two pages. Ray has read the screenplay and Jordan hasn't.
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In this extra special live event To the White Sea makes study group history as we explore deep secrets, hidden connections, and cinematic revelation in the work of the Coen brothers. In our quest for the truth we're joined onstage by Connoisseur of Context Griffin Newman, longtime Coens collaborator Skip Lievsay, and script supervisor of The Ladykillers Joni Tefoya (Heidi Gardner). Legendary storyboard artist J. Todd Anderson also joins us via video essay for an incredible look at shots that recur across the Coens’ filmography. Thank you LIFE WORLD and everyone for coming out!
Producer: Michael Tyburski
Graphic Designer and Live Visuals: Jason Katzenstein
Audio Technician: Alex Bliss
Audio Equipment: Caley Monahon-Ward
Life World Staff: Sarah Wilson, Ian Faria
Catalog of Coens - Video Link
Boo! In this special episode we announce our live show COENS SECRETS UNLOCKED and unveil our new miniseries exploring the stage play work of the Coens. We kick off COENS THEATER VOL. I with the radio play SAWBONES, which debuted in April 2005 as part of Carter Burwell’s Theater of the New Ear. Sawbones is a thrilling and bewildering triptych, simultaneously a 60s western TV show, a suburban melodrama, and a fire tower natural disaster thriller. Join us as we unpack a lost work of the Coens and Burwell at their most symphonic and triple-braided. And we’ll see you all soon at LIFE WORLD!
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Coens Covered: Sawbones, The Big Lebowski, Blood Simple
Plus: K-CoreaINC.K (section a) (Dir: Ryan Trecartin)
Theater of the New Ear - April 2005 performance at St. Ann’s Warehouse, broadcast later on SiriusXM.
Theater of the New Ear on CarterBurwell.com
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Today is all about mega presences—performances with so much character, life, and musicality breathed into them by their actors that they seem to haunt an entire film and stick with you long after the credits have rolled and the house lights have come on. And we are thrilled beyond words to be joined by a one-of-one artist, the great Will Oldham!
Jumping off from a rather intense skydiving scene in To the White Sea, Will talks to us about how you can craft a performance by drawing on formative experiences and memories of people you once knew. He also tells us about how you can perform for an audience by in some sense becoming the audience, and brings awesome insights to all of the Coens films we cover, often bringing in counterpoint scenes from other films that unlock the richness of the performances.
Special thanks to Rebecca Bulnes and her grandmother Maria for helping us with the Spanish translation of a pivotal moment in Blood Simple in a brand new segment called To the White Sea: The Latin Beat.
Coens Covered: No Country for Old Men, Fargo, The Man Who Wasn’t There, Blood Simple, The Big Lebowski, Burn After Reading, True Grit, Inside Llewyn Davis
Plus: Jackass 3D, Minnie and Moskowitz, Longlegs, One Battle After Another, The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
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Laughter—why does it happen? Brilliant filmmaker and comedy consigliere Ian Faria joins the study group to break down comedy in all its forms, be it slapstick physical violence, zinging dialogue, or a slow-burn silent reveal. Ian is just wrapping up post-production on a feature with his comedy group Simple Town and has much to share. This episode is the whole ball of wax and you're just gonna love it—definitely stay tuned to the very end for a surprise...!
Coens covered: No Country for Old Men, Raising Arizona, The Big Lebowski, O Brother Where Art Thou?, The Ladykillers, Burn After Reading
Plus: Friendship, Simple Town Goes to London
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Today we’re joined by writer, researcher, and podcaster Edward Ongweso Jr. to discuss “the essence of The Dialectic,” as a highly-fictionalized Herbert Marcuse proclaims in Hail, Caesar! Dialectics: what are they, what is their function, and how might their theory and praxis manifest multifariously across the Coens’ body of work? We discuss the history of the term, how the concept of keeping two ideas in tension is expressed within individual characters, and we finally tackle the loop-de-loop structure of Inside Llewyn Davis. This conversation is a deep dive and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did.
Ed’s podcast: This Machine Kills
Ed’s substack: The Tech Bubble
Coens Covered: Hail, Caesar!, Inside Llewyn Davis, A Serious Man, No Country for Old Men, Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, Fargo
Plus: No Direction Home
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To the White Sea is back to discuss HONEY DON’T!—the slapjacking new film from Ethan Coen and Tricia Cooke—and we’re bringing a new episode format to attempt to wrap our minds around this monumental moment.
We’ve gathered some of our favorite minds of filmmaking and film analysis—Melissa Tuckman, Ben Brewer, and Emilio Diaz—for an unrehearsed panel discussion affectionately dubbed The McDunnough Group. We explore important issues of the day including how this new film differs from a Joel and Ethan collaboration, how a more varied filmmaking approach impacts the experience of the viewer, and whether the film successfully defines its moral universe. Thank you so much to all of the panel guests. Special thanks to Focus Features.
Coens Covered: Honey Don’t!, Drive-Away Dolls, The Big Lebowski, The Ladykillers, Burn After Reading
Plus: Supervixens, Before Sunset, Punch-Drunk Love, Love Lies Bleeding, Death Proof
“In livelier precincts, the swells of Dreamland gather to inspect the complicated weave of another piece of gossamer… Another movie, another portion of balm for the ache of a toiling mankind.”
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Today we’re excited to be joined by Will Menaker and Hesse Deni—cohosts of Movie Mindset, as well as Chapo Trap House and Seeking Derangements respectively—to split the everlasting light of cinema via a prism of great importance: tensions between the old and the young in the films of the Coen brothers.
Jumping off from a thrilling duel between Muldrow and the blind swordsman we unpack the trope of The Old Gunslinger vs. The Kid, and from there fan out across a galaxy of cigar-chomping geezers, stoned Bar Mitzvah boys, goldbricking veterans of forgotten wars, and house partying dybbuks.
Thank you to Will and Hesse for this life- and movie-affirming conversation! Thank you also to the great Chris Wade for helping setting this up.
Coens Covered: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, Miller’s Crossing, The Hudsucker Proxy, A Serious Man, The Big Lebowski, Inside Llewyn Davis
Plus: Armageddon, The Heart She Holler
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Like a seashell to your ear, we are here. In this extra special episode of To the White Sea we are thrilled and honored to welcome Academy Award-winning sound editor Skip Lievsay, who has worked on more Coen brothers movies than the Coen brothers themselves! This paradox wrapped in an enigma will be unraveled along with so much more.
Together we listen closely to scenes of “perfect quiet” when the volume of the soundtrack drops down to almost zero, yet it’s in this zone where a whole galaxy of perception may be unlocked. We explore how these quiet scenes build tension, intimacy, tactility, and subjectivity. We also discuss Skip’s fascinating working relationship with the Coens, as well as Martin Scorsese, Terrence Malick, and Darren Aronofsky.
Immense thanks to Skip Lievsay, Kyle Miller, Mitchell Wareham, and Nina Leitenberg for their time and effort. Mega special thanks to Kate Sanford making this connection.
Coens Covered: Blood Simple, The Big Lebowski, The Man Who Wasn’t There, No Country for Old Men, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Plus: The New World
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Surprise! We're back with a new episode. We jump off from the idea introduced to us by J. Todd Anderson, by way of Alfred Hitchcock, that filmmaking is about two things (and according to J. Todd only these two things): suspense and surprise. We analyze ways in which films create a “burden of knowledge” in the mind of the audience, and how this can dramatically affect the way scenes play out on a screen and behind our eyes. Sometimes you’re ahead of the characters, and sometimes they’re way, way ahead of you.
Check us out in the new episode of Blank Check where we kick off their Coen brothers mini series Pod Country for Old Cast with the first film in the Coens ouvre, Blood Simple!
Coens Covered: Raising Arizona, No Country for Old Men, Barton Fink, True Grit, Intolerable Cruelty, The Man Who Wasn’t There
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Hello study group! We will be back soon with more mainline episodes of To the White Sea. To tide you over we bring you a delightful side-quest / amuse-bouche. A couple months ago we went on Hit Factory to discuss A Simple Plan, directed by frequent Coens collaborator Sam Raimi. We enjoyed our discussion with Aaron so much, and thought it Coens-adjacent-enough to put it out as a bonus. Hope you enjoy it too!
Thanks to Aaron & Carlee for giving us the go-ahead to release this premium episode, and please consider supporting their amazing show on Patreon, which is all about the films and politics of the 1990s.
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We're on the road! Ray and Jordan step out of the AMC Lincoln Square 13 and give their immediate impressions of Ethan Coen and Tricia Cooke's new film DRIVE-AWAY DOLLS while walking the streets of Manhattan.
Spoilers are everywhere so you'll want to see the film before diving into this. Thanks in advance for rocking with the "punk rock" audio quality in this special gonzo episode.
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Emerging from a cloud of goose feathers, TTWS returns! Filmmaker Devyn Waitt joins the study group today to discuss INSTINCT, moments in the Coens films that defy logic but somehow make sense on an intuitive, almost physical level. We touch on whether they could be a connection between survival skills and artistic expression, and speculate on the Coens’ writing process, which seems to be where their most free-wheeling moves find their form. We also discuss a scene from Devyn’s feature Not Waving But Drowning which involved getting a horse on a subway train.
Coens Covered: A Serious Man, The Man Who Wasn’t There, Miller’s Crossing (the bear version), Barton Fink
Plus: Beethoven’s 2nd (1993) - Beethoven destroys patio scene
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Today on the program we start things off with a reality-shattering two pages, then shoot into outer space with our guest, the brilliant production designer Alex DiGerlando. We explore film sets and designed environments that come out of left field and reshape our understanding of what it is we’re watching. We also dive into Alex’s approach to his own work, which he describes as “part muse, part curation.” Rounding things out we also unveil a new prismatic style: the proverbial “lightning” round. Thanks again to Alex for the awesome, mind-blowing conversation!
Coens Covered: Raising Arizona, The Hudsucker Proxy, Inside Llewyn Davis, ⚡️The Ballad of Buster Scruggs ⚡️
Plus: Beasts of the Southern Wild, The Sea of Trees, The OA, Maniac, A Murder at the End of the World
Watch: A Murder at the End of the World on Hulu
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We’re back with a delightful conversation about surprisingly chill hangs. Joining us is brilliant writer, director, and dog lover, Robin Comisar. We discuss moments in the Coens’ films where the story sneaks up on you with unexpectedly tender, guileless, and open-hearted scenes. In these moments of connection, characters often go beyond their “type” or “role”. It's weird, it's satisfying, and it's vibey. Thanks again to Robin for joining us!!!
WATCH:
Great Choice
Robin and Loaf Interviewed by The Dogist
Coens Covered: The Man Who Wasn’t There; Hail, Caesar!; Fargo; Barton Fink
Plus: Amsterdam, Zodiac, Dave, Beetlejuice 2, The Dick Cavett Show, Magnolia, Devil’s Advocate, Great Choice
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We're back with our first post-hiatus numbered episode and what a show we've got for you. Today we welcome actor, comedian, podcaster and our good friend Griffin Newman to the study group. Griffin walks us through his process as an actor, and what he calls behavioral acting—the use of secondary actions, latent desires, and bottled-up nervous energy to shape a performance and create a character that feels real. It's all about doing two or more things at once, and being as interesting as a cat.
On another important note, last week we told the story of the finding of the lost pages, and this week we actually debut the text of a lost page—PAGE 40—which we hope you enjoy!!
Coens covered: Burn After Reading, The Hudsucker Proxy, Fargo, The Big Lebowski
Plus: World War Z, Interview with a Vampire, The Tao of Steve, Jurassic Park 3D
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We're back everybody! After our extended hiatus we couldn't be more excited to be back with this emergency episode. We have the lost pages folks, and to tell the story of how this all happened, we bring you an interview with legendary picture editor Kate Sanford! Hope you enjoy, and are as excited as we are for TTWS Season 2! Stick around after the interview for DISCORD MAILBAG where we answer all of your questions from the Discord.
Infinite thanks to Kate Sanford, and thank you also to everyone in the study group for your questions, your patience, and your continued enthusiasm during the break. We are charged up and ready for the next chapter of our journey together.
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Hi everyone! Today we welcome professor, writer, and poet Melissa Tuckman to the study group. First we read pages 37-38 which are, as with last week’s excerpt, truly horrifying. Take heed. Then we jump into the prism and explore the idea of an intertext, which is simply a work which relates in some way to another work. We look at scenes in Coens’ movies where a character or the film itself quotes or evokes another text. This could be a classic work of literature, a folk song, or a 50s Hollywood biblical epic. It’s the same old Coens, but with different meanings since these texts came along. Hope you enjoy this episode; it goes places.
Coens Covered: Meal Ticket; Inside Llewyn Davis; Hail, Caesar!
Plus: Slaughterhouse Five, *Cat’s Cradle, Ben Hur, Quo Vadis
ERRATA: *In the first act of the show Jordan refers to Breakfast of Champions but is actually talking about Cat’s Cradle. He misintertextimated and regrets the error.
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Hello! We’re back with a deep dive and wild ride through mind-melting, unforgettable images you’ve never seen before, and we’re joined by our friend, the brilliant and infinitely creative production designer Becca Brooks Morrin! We also read pages 35 and 36 and follow Muldrow as his story gets even more intense and horrifically violent—if we haven’t said it yet, we’ll say it here: this screenplay contains shocking and upsetting images and listener discretion is definitely advised. Feel free to skip ahead!
Coens Covered: Blood Simple (Investor Trailer), Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, The Man Who Wasn’t There, True Grit
Plus: Apocalypse Now, Strawberry Mansion, Skyfall, What the Bleep Do We Know!? (that’s a show notes joke, folks, don’t watch that movie)
For more of Becca’s work visit her website.
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In today’s episode we’re joined by multi-disciplinary artist and writer Liz Ryerson. Liz brings her background in music and game design to discuss scenes from the Coens’ movies in which characters drift through the wide world of their story, and in their wanderings—be they pastoral, tacky, gnarly, or urbane—make discoveries without and within.
Outro Music: Liz Ryerson - Village Theme
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Coens covered: Inside Llewyn Davis; Barton Fink; O Brother, Where Art Thou?; No Country for Old Men
Plus: Twin Peaks s3e8, No Direction Home, I’m Not There, Mazes and Monsters, Thief, Deus Ex, Zork, Hitman, Prey, Problem Attic, Half-Life
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Today we’re joined by our friend, the mega-talented and ever-thoughtful Benh Zeitlin, director of Glory at Sea, Beasts of the Southern Wild, and Wendy. We’re thrilled to welcome Benh to the study group as we cross the threshold on pages 31-32, and see Muldrow’s journey plummet into action. From here, we break down act breaks, specifically the crucial transition from Act 1 to Act 2. We discuss the confluence of plot and emotional undercurrents in a story, and how the Coens use structure to build striking and surprising narratives. Thanks again to Benh for joining us on this rollicking river ride.
Coens covered: Miller’s Crossing, Fargo, Intolerable Cruelty, A Serious Man.
Plus: Commando
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