The Next Aid Station

🎙️ Speedgoat Secrets, Doping Drama & WNBA Pay Controversy 🏃‍♂️💉🔥In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “The Clap” Garrison dive into a wild mix of topics — from Speedgoat 50K training and race changes, to Rachel Entrekin’s epic dominance, to explosive takes on WNBA’s “Pay Us What You Owe Us” protest and the state of doping in endurance sports.They also talk about:Why the Speedgoat 50K remains one of the most iconic mountain racesThe ultra trail U.S. short course team and why this year’s squad is stackedCourtney vs Katie – Why isn’t this showdown happening?The Ruth Chepngetich masking agent scandalTestosterone, cheating, and the blurred lines of performance enhancementThe surprising truth behind course records falling weeklyRachel Entrekin’s insane win streak (and how she still has no sponsor?!)💥 If you’re into ultra running, sports culture, and a little healthy controversy, this one’s a must-listen.

In this episode of the Next Aid Station Podcast, we dive deep into the highlights, challenges, and unforgettable moments from the 2025 Cocodona 250! 🏞 Whether you’re a seasoned ultrarunner or just curious about this epic endurance event, this recap has it all.🔑 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:The most exciting performances and race highlights. 🏅Behind-the-scenes stories from the trail. 🎥Key takeaways for aspiring ultrarunners. 🏃‍♀️How the Cocodona 250 continues to push the limits of endurance racing. 💪The Cocodona 250 is one of the most grueling and awe-inspiring ultramarathons, spanning 250 miles of breathtaking Arizona landscapes. 🌵 Tune in to hear firsthand accounts and expert insights from this year’s race.💬 Join the Conversation:What was your favorite moment from the 2025 Cocodona 250? Share your thoughts in the comments below! ⬇️🌟 Don’t Forget to Subscribe!If you love ultrarunning, endurance sports, and inspiring stories, hit that Subscribe button and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode! 🔔

In this episode, we delve into the highly anticipated 2025 Canyons 100K, a pivotal race on the Western States Endurance Run Golden Ticket Series. With the top three male and female finishers earning coveted entries into the prestigious Western States 100, the stakes are higher than ever.Join us as we predict who will rise to the occasion, secure their Golden Tickets, and make their mark on the ultrarunning world.​

What really went down at the Arizona Monster 300? In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we break down the controversy surrounding the inaugural Arizona Monster 300 by Destination Trail—lack of porta-potties, overworked volunteers, and the firestorm it sparked in the ultrarunning community.We dig into the facts, the online chatter, and the bigger questions: What do runners deserve from race directors? What happens when 300 miles goes off the rails?

The Arizona Monster 300 is about to test the toughest ultrarunners on the planet—but who has what it takes to survive 300 grueling miles? In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we break down the race course, top contenders, dark horses, and the strategies that could make or break their race. Will experience win out, or will an underdog rise to the occasion? Tune in for our predictions, expert analysis, and what to watch for in one of the gnarliest ultramarathons out there! #Ultrarunning #ArizonaMonster300 #TrailRunning #Endurance #UltraPredictions

The Chianti 120K brought the heat, and we’re breaking down all the top performances, surprises, and storylines from this rugged Italian ultra. Then, we dive into the explosion of high-quality ultramarathon documentaries on YouTube—why they’re getting better, what makes a great one, and how they’re shaping the sport. Tune in for race recaps, deep dives, and all things ultrarunning!

We have a very special guest this week from Weber State University Track & Field and XC, Corbin Talley, to talk all things running. We go in-depth on what he's learned in his 20 year coaching career, what he loves about running, how runners should train, and more! For all you runners out there, this is an episode you can't miss.

PayKeeper CEO joins us this week to talk about how his company, PayKeeper, helps contractors in EVERY industry get cash jobs paid out from customers quickly and easily. PayKeeper sets up an FDIC insured escrow account for every cash job where the customer has to fully fund the escrow account to get jobs done. It gives the contractors peace of mind knowing the money is all there when doing the job, and it also provides security for the customer where if the contractor doesn't follow through then the customer doesn't have to release the money to the contractor. It's a win-win.

This episode is the start of a series about my life while fighting with the DoJ for a decade and then what prison was like for me and my family. This podcast series will be intriguing for everyone who listens as I want to talk about prison and the broken justice system to shed light on what it's truly like to be investigated and strong armed by the federal government.

This week we're joined by Sam Taggart, the D2D Guru himself, to talk about what needs to change in the Door-to-Door industry. The Solar industry is changing and we need to change how this industry operates for it to survive. Sam gives his expert advice on what needs to change, how it needs to change, and how his companies such as D2D University and the D2D Association are changing it on the frontlines.

I'm joined by Jess Reagan, CRO at Gamify, to talk about the software industry, solar industry and the struggles in life that we all go through. Jess has been through some incredibly difficult times and talks about how he pushed through them to build up an amazing life and an amazing career.

Ultra runner and DC Peaks 50 course record holder, Kilian Korth, joins us today to go in-depth on what happened during the Cocodona 250 this year that landed him in the ICU. We also talk about the difference in training for 100 and 200 milers, nutrition during a 250, strategies to run the 200+ mile ultra marathons and more!

Buffalo Run Race Director, Jim Skaggs, joins us this week to discuss this year's cancellation of the Antelope Island 100 miler due to weather, as well as his career in ultra running over the last couple decades. Jim is about to run his 100th ultra marathon this weekend! What a beast!

Today's guest John Frampton goes through his 10-year career that started at SolarCity and working his way to the CEO of Nivo Solar, a Texas-based solar company that did over $90M in its first year and is seeking $250M this year.

This week our friend and guest, Rhandi Orme, joins us to talk about her experience in this past Boston Marathon, what happened at the Leadville 100, and more! It's an episode all you runners won't want to miss!

Leading up to the Boston Marathon that takes place each year on Patriots Day, just a few days away from now, guest Mick Garrison and I talk about the Boston Marathon and what it means to each of us personally, and to our running careers. In 2016, just weeks before self-surrendering to prison, Mick and I ran the Boston Marathon together. During this dark time in my life the NXT AID STN Mentality was born as I used it to get me through those torturous months between pleading and prison (6 months). In 2018, my final aid station in prison was watching the Boston Marathon - just two days before being released back home to my family. The Boston Marathon will always have a special place in my heart.

Today we talk with the founder of SolarCon, Jake Hess, about the event he's hosting, the state of the solar industry, as well as digging into the trials that both of us have gone through in life. Jake went from an alcoholic that was struggling in life to creating a thriving consulting business as well as hosting one of the biggest events in the solar industry.

The NXT AID STN Podcast is about how to use the Next Aid Station Mentality to overcome life's challenges. Whether it's tough times in your life due to marital or relationship stress, substance abuse, or anything else this mentality will help you get through life one aid station at a time. This mentality stems from ultra marathons where each aid station is a respite where you can sit down, fuel up, and reset for the next 5-7 miles before you get to the next aid station. This mentality specifically has helped my family and I get through tough times especially when I went to federal prison in Colorado. The way that I could efficiently serve my time was by creating aid stations along the way that I just had to get to. We hope this podcast helps all of you listening with whatever you may be struggling with.

This episode has everything — elite racing, wild controversy, and one of the rawest interviews we’ve ever done.Trail-runner Kilian Korth joins us fresh off his Moab 240 victory to unpack his Triple Crown sweep, insane weather, and how he handled 28 miles of mud on destroyed feet. Jake Kilgore relives his Kodiak 100 age category win that locked a direct UTMB entry, and the guys tackle the internet drama over their now-infamous “Here for the Men’s Meet” shirt.If you love trail running, dark humor, and real conversations about racing, community, and mindset — this is your episode.Timestamps:00:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” ControversyJake & Mick open with the viral shirt backlash — humor, misunderstanding, and how sarcasm dies on Instagram.03:20 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid StationThe hosts kick off another Tuesday episode and dive straight into recovery talk and sore-quads confessions.07:00 – The Moab 240 & Triple Crown BreakdownSetting the stage: Kilian Korth’s win, the brutal conditions, and what makes Moab different from every other 200-miler.08:10 – LIVE Call with Kilian KorthFresh off his Moab 240 victory, Kilian joins the show to unpack mud, misery, and mindset in his hardest race ever.14:00 – The Brody Leven ControversyWas he pulled too early? Kilian reacts to the drama at mile 54 and gives his take on race-director decisions.17:00 – Racing Through the Mud & Mental BattlesKilian’s raw account of the rain, exhaustion, and the mental fight that defined his Triple Crown sweep.20:00 – Aid-Station Strategy & Sleep ScienceHow Kilian managed foot pain, minimal rest, and elite-level efficiency — plus why a good crew can change everything.22:00 – What’s Next for Kilian KorthWhy he’s taking an off-season and processing the spotlight after the biggest win of his career.24:00 – Post-Interview ReactionsJake, Mick & Scott debrief the conversation, reveal behind-the-scenes footage, and tease Kilian’s documentary.30:00 – Trail Running News Round-UpCourtney Dauwalter’s road-marathon debut, Truett’s 2:25 at St. George, Connor Mantz’s new American record — full breakdown.38:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” BacklashWhy some people lost their minds over a joke tee, the meaning behind it, and how the guys plan to win skeptics over.47:00 – Kodiak 100 Recap 🏔️Jake’s full race story: training, strategy, near-perfect execution, and taking the 45-49 age-group crown (again).1:03:00 – Critical Gear Decisions That Won the RacePoles or no poles? Bladder or flasks? The tiny choices that made hours of difference.1:33:00 – Post-Race Reflection & UTMB Direct EntryEarning a UTMB spot, what it really means, and the plan heading into 2026.1:45:00 – Off-Season, Goals & Closing BanterJake on recovery mode, Mick’s Javelina prep, and the team’s next adventures.

🏆 “He ran through a storm — and came out a champion.”When freezing rain, 40 mph wind, and mud hit DC Peaks 50, Eli White didn’t just survive — he thrived. The Salt Lake Running Company athlete takes us behind the scenes of his shocking 2025 victory, sharing how he trained, fueled, and battled for the win on one of the toughest ultramarathon days ever.In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “Lucky Pierre” dive deep into Eli’s mindset, gear choices, and wildest race moments — including how a mid-race fall, caffeine boost, and strategic moves sealed his win.Whether you’re training for your first ultra or chasing a 100-mile PR, this episode is a masterclass in racing smart under pressure.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Winner IntroductionEli White joins the pod fresh off his DC Peaks 50 victory — and “People’s Choice” favorite.01:00 – Betting on the Podium: Who Called It Right?The hosts break down their pre-race picks and how the stormy day reshaped the results.02:30 – Eli’s Journey: From Biology Professor to Running ProHow Eli went from teaching science to managing Salt Lake Running Company — and why it changed his life.04:45 – Why He Signed Up Last Minute for DC Peaks 50What pushed Eli to finally register just two weeks before race day.06:15 – Race Day Chaos: The Storm, the Course, and Staying AliveHow he planned his splits in the middle of unpredictable weather.08:00 – The Turning Point: When Eli Took the LeadA deep dive into his mid-race battle with Matt — and how a caffeine gel and rain jacket swap changed everything.12:20 – The Chase: Passing Matt and Building the GapEli explains exactly where and how he made his move through North Canyon’s smooth trails.15:10 – The Muddy Showdown at SummerwoodThe out-and-back moment that sealed the win — and what it’s like seeing your competition mid-race.18:00 – The Wild Finish Line CelebrationInside Eli’s “home run” finish and what made this stormy race so unforgettable.19:10 – Race Weekend Decisions: Saturday or Sunday?Eli breaks down how runners voted and why he preferred running through the rain.21:30 – Battling the Weather: Wind, Rain, and Survival ModeRunning through freezing wind, soaked trails, and mental toughness at its peak.25:00 – Shoe Talk: What Carried Him to VictoryThe surprising shoe choice that helped him win — and a mini gear chat with Jake & Mick.29:00 – Inside the Salt Lake “JV Team”Meet the crew behind Utah’s rising trail runners — and the inside jokes that power them.30:00 – Bear 100: Redemption Story in the MakingEli’s unfinished business at Bear 100 and how he plans to come back stronger.33:00 – Taper Tips & Pre-Race MindsetEli’s philosophy on tapering, training, and keeping your legs fresh.39:00 – Future Goals & Marathon SpeedFrom a 2:31 marathon to mountain ultras — what’s next for Eli White.41:00 – Closing Thoughts: Lessons from the StormThe mindset, preparation, and grit behind one of the gnarliest DC Peaks finishes ever.