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Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books

Author: Jay Russo and Sean McGurr

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Every other week, Jay and Sean discuss the characters, connections, and deeper meanings of Stephen King’s magnum opus, The Dark Tower. We will then quest beyond the Tower and continue to explore King's library.
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In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” chapters 20-26. Introduction (00:00) The Sunlight Home (01:47) The Territories are a reflection of our world (13:56) Sacrifice is necessary along a hero’s journey (20:14) Dark Tower Thinnies (24:31) Yuck-King It Up (27:04) Fun … Continue reading Ep. 155 The Talisman, Part 3, chapters 20-26 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman,  Part 2, “The Road of Trials,” Chapters 14-19. Introduction (00:13) Cool world building (02:06) Too much “Y” and not enough “A” (12:36) Dark Tower Thinnies (20:19) Yuck-King it Up (25:39) Fun Stuff (27:21) Other Worlds than These (31:52) Outro (37:09) … Continue reading Ep. 154 The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 14-19 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 1, “Jack Lights Out.” Introduction (00:13) Recap (00:50) Publication/Our history (01:57) Things are getting started (07:30) Jack’s relationships (13:24) Dark Tower Thinnies (20:30) Yuck-King it Up (23:34) Thank you, Patrons! (24:54) Fun Stuff (25:42) Other Worlds than These (32:07) … Continue reading Ep. 152 The Talisman, Part 1, chapters 1-5 →
Ep. 151 Carrie, Part 3

Ep. 151 Carrie, Part 3

2023-04-1234:54

In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 3, “Wreckage,” and our final thoughts on the novel. Introduction (00:13) Ending structure is not great (01:49) Ending writing is good (07:55) Dark Tower Thinnies (12:20) Yuck King It Up (13:41) Reviews (15:43) Our thoughts (20:05) Fun Stuff (20:48) Other … Continue reading Ep. 151 Carrie, Part 3 →
Ep. 150 Carrie, Part 2

Ep. 150 Carrie, Part 2

2023-03-2942:52

In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 2, “Prom Night.” Introduction (00:13) Recap (00:49) Carrie’s powers (02:13) If Carrie didn’t die (07:48) King’s characters (12:50) Dark Tower Thinnies (24:02) Yuck-King it Up (26:57) Fun Stuff (29:19) Other Worlds than These (36:45) Outro (40:59) Leave us an Apple … Continue reading Ep. 150 Carrie, Part 2 →
Ep. 149 Carrie, Part 1

Ep. 149 Carrie, Part 1

2023-03-1548:34

In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 1. Introduction (00:13) Publication history (01:34) Book structure (08:17) Women run the show (18:45) Scapegoats (22:24) Dark Tower Thinnies (26:06) Yuck-King It Up (32:32) Thank you, Patrons! (33:57) Fun Stuff (35:06) Other Worlds Than These (41:27) Outro (47:08) Leave us … Continue reading Ep. 149 Carrie, Part 1 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, chapters 24-28 and our final thoughts. Introduction (00:00) A man on borrowed time, not outside of time (01:23) Three questions about morality (06:49) It has to do (16:44) Dark Tower Thinnies (21:15) YuckKing It Up (22:29) Fun Stuff (26:50) … Continue reading Ep. 148 The Dead Zone, chapters 24-28 and final thoughts →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, Chapters 13-16. Introduction (00:13) Recap (00:49) Johnny and Sarah make love (01:07) The Castle Rock Strangler (08:41) The horror of Johnny’s power (16:22) Connections (20:04) Dark Tower Thinnies (24:24) Thank you, Patrons! (26:11) Fun Stuff (26:36) Other Worlds than … Continue reading Ep. 146 The Dead Zone, chapters 13-16 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, chapters 6-12. Introduction (00:13) Man out of time (01:36) Curse or Duty of Responsibility? (10:17) Dark Tower Thinnies (19:37) Yuck-King it Up (22:57) Fun Stuff (26:13) Other Worlds than These (31:59) Jay: Two Tarantino monologues: True Romance (1993); Pulp Fiction (1994) Sean: Two … Continue reading Ep. 145 The Dead Zone, chapters 6-12 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, the Prologue and chapters 1-5. Introduction (00:13) Publication history (02:07) Structure and timing of book (06:34) King’s treatment of women, especially mothers (16:35) Fate and (wheel of) Fortune (22:19) Dark Tower Thinnies (25:57) Yuck-King It Up (29:47) Fun Stuff … Continue reading Ep. 144 The Dead Zone, chapters 1-5 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 4 “Roof O’ the World” and “Until You Sleep.” Introduction (00:00) Life is a wheel (01:35) Recovery and redemption (07:49) Dark Tower Thinnies (15:21) Yuck-King It Up (18:11) Reviews and final thoughts (21:01) Fun Stuff (26:34) Other Worlds Than … Continue reading Ep. 143 Doctor Sleep, Part 4, “Roof O’ the World” and “Until You Sleep” →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 2, “Empty Devils.” Introduction (00:12) A real page turner (01:15) Bad news for Dan (05:25) Connections and continuations from The Shining (12:55) Dark Tower Thinnies (18:26) Yuck-King it Up (23:02) Patrons and iTunes reviews (24:15) Fun Stuff (26:34) Other … Continue reading Ep. 141 Doctor Sleep, Part 2, “Empty Devils” →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 1, “Abra.” Introduction (00:00) Eternal life vs. a good life (04:02) A dream within a dream (11:40) The Shining connections (19:06) Dark Tower Thinnies (26:31) Yuck-King It Up (31:18) Fun Stuff (32:46) Wet Hot American Summer, “I’m just sick … Continue reading Ep. 140 Doctor Sleep, Part 1, “Abra” →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, “Prefatory Matters.” Introduction (00:13) Publication History (01:26) Connections and continuations from The Shining (04:25) Overcoming trauma (09:39) Dark Tower Thinnies (16:44) Yuck-King it Up (17:38) Thank you, Patrons! (19:32) Fun Stuff (20:18) Other Worlds than These (23:05) Outro (25:52) Leave … Continue reading Ep. 139 Doctor Sleep, “Prefatory Matters” →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the 1980 adaptation The Shining. Introduction (00:13) Recap (00:50) Adaptation (02:09) Mirrors (12:53) Crazy theories (19:19) ←!! Dark Tower Thinnies (28:26) Yuck-King it Up (29:26) Thank you, Patrons! (31:24) Fun Stuff (32:04) Critical reception and box office success (36:29) Other Worlds than … Continue reading Ep. 138 – “The Shining” (1980) Movie →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 5, Matters of Life and Death. Introduction (00:00) Surprisingly happy ending (01:23) Why Jack? (12:00) Death makes life worth living (19:29) Dark Tower Thinnies (25:03) Yuck-King It Up (28:08) Fun Stuff (30:32) Final thoughts (38:46) Other Worlds Than These … Continue reading Ep. 137 The Shining, Part 5, “Matters of Life and Death” →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part Four: Snowbound. Introduction (00:13) Sins of the father (01:52) Jack’s gaslighting (12:37) Shit just got real (16:50) Dark Tower Thinnies (21:36) Yuck-King It Up (23:38) Thank you, Patrons! (27:10) Fun Stuff (27:54) Other Worlds Than These (34:53) Jay: “The … Continue reading Ep. 136 The Shining, Part 4, “Snowbound” →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, chapters Part 3, Chapters 19-25. Introduction (00:00) Descriptive chapter names (02:12) Jack’s self-sabotage (04:35) Danny is a lot like his father (16:33) Amping up the gothic (22:13) Dark Tower Thinnies (24:49) Yuck-King It Up (26:01) Fun Stuff (28:53) Other Worlds … Continue reading Ep. 135 The Shining, Part 3, Chapters 19-25 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 3, Chapters 14-18. Introduction (00:00) Great writing, not so good exposition (1:30) Is Jack a madman? (12:05) Dark Tower Thinnies (23:52) Yuck-King It Up (27:41) Fun Stuff (30:06) Other Worlds Than These (36:05) Sean: The Nineties by Chuck Klosterman … Continue reading Ep. 134 The Shining, Part 3, Chapters 14-18 →
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 2, “Closing Day.” Introduction (00:13) The Shining (01:34) The players (06:14) Gothic table setting (14:10) Dark Tower Thinnies (20:01) Yuck-King It Up (21:05) Fun Stuff (22:53) Other Worlds Than These (30:37) Outro (33:40) Leave us an Apple Podcasts review!  … Continue reading Ep. 133 The Shining, Part 2, “Closing Day” →
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