International Enneagram Association Podcast

E66: Story Booth: Michael Naylor, Aaron Manes & Patty AndersonIn this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to brief interviews with Michael Naylor, Aaron Manes and Patty Anderson. Michael reminisces on his first time attending the IEA Conference and shares what it’s like being an Enneagram Type Four. Aaron talks about his spiritual journey with the Enneagram and Patty discusses why she feels she can be the best person in the world if she simply loves herself.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgMichael Naylor:Web: enneagrammaine.comIG: @enneagrammaineFB: Michael NaylorAaron Manes:Web: https://aaronmanes.com/IG: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkmanes/Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Ahmad Wazir and Adelaida Harrison speak with Doug Lynam, an investment advisor and author of the book, “Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram.” Doug shares his motivation to help people heal their relationship with money through the lens of the Enneagram. He explains the framework he developed to help people with money and how knowing your Enneagram type helps us overcome the money monster that hinders our financial health.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgDoug Lynam:Web: douglynam.comEmail: doug@douglynam.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/doug-lynamYouTube: youtube.com/@douglynamFacebook: facebook.com/monktomoneymanagerBook: Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the EnneagramAhmad Wazir:IG: @ahmadwazir19Pod: Totem ConfidenceAdelaida Harrison:Web: enneagramcenter.com.mxRadio show: Eneagrama ConóceteSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to storybooth interviews with Mickey Scott-Bey Jones, Mario Sikora, Sam E. Greenburg, Lyndsey Fraser, Stephanie Sundborg and Julie Ellis. Micky and Mario interview each other about their approach in teaching the Enneagram. Sam and Lyndsey talk about their friendship that goes beyond the Enneagram, and we hear about the working relationship between Stephanie and Julie.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgMicky ScottBey Jones:IG: @electric_lady_msjTwitter: @iammickyjonesWeb: mickyscottbeyjones.comPod: BRC & FriendsMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comPod: Enneagram in a MovieSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comBook: Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and ChangeBook: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear ThinkingSam E. Greenburg:Web: enneagramsexpert.comIG: @ennea_gasmIG: @narrativeenneagramLyndsey Fraser:Web: lyndseyfraser.comIG: @lyndseyfraserlmftFB: Lyndsey Fraser LMFT CSTStephanie Sundborg:Web: infinitecanvas.orgJulie Ellis:Web: infinitecanvas.orgSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Mario Sikora, an executive coach and pioneer of the practical application of the Enneagram. Mario has worked with global organizations and is the creator of the Awareness to Action Enneagram approach. We take a deep dive into Mario’s background with the Enneagram that expands to over 25 years. He shares what it was like to learn about the Enneagram in ‘90s without the internet and his early applications of the model that led to his direct and no nonsense approach he is known for.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comPod: Enneagram in a MovieSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comBook: Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and ChangeBook: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear ThinkingCritical Thinking and Intelligence Analysis by David T. MooreSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to story booth interviews with Jeanie Brandes, Scott and Clare Loughrige with Jerry Wagner and Kate Jackson. Jeanie shares her journey with the Enneagram and discusses the importance of community. We hear that it took Kate three years to determine her type, but the Enneagram has helped anchor herself during a crisis. Prolific Enneagram teacher Jerry shares why he teaches with humor while Scott and Clare, who have studied under him, reveal their deep gratitude to him.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgScott and Clare Loughrige:Web: scottandclareloughrige.orgPod: Enneagram and Christianity PodcastFB: Enneagram Motions of the SoulDr Jerome Wagner:Web: enneagramspe ctrum.comWeb: training.enneagramspectrum.comWeb: wepss.comEmail: jeromewagnerphd@gmail.comThe Enneagram and the Individual: Psychology of Alfred Adler by Jerry WagnerKate Jackson:Web: ensowellbeing.comWeb: enneagramrx.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kate-jacksonSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!Learn More About Evolving Enneagram

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue our ongoing conversation with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of Think About It and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark. Flemming dives more into his theory on the blind type and explores how we can use the Enneagram as a model of points, seeing qualities as skills that can be developed.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenPrevious IEA episodes with Flemming:Flemming Christensen on Enneagram Blind Types and the Enneagram as a Way of LifeUsing the Enneagram as a Mindset with Flemming Christensen (Part 2)Mentioned in this episode:Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!Learn More About Evolving Enneagram

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to story booth conversations with Sam Michel Kopterski, Doug Lyman and Hillary Stark. These brief interviews explore their introduction to the Enneagram and how it has played in their professional and personal life. Sam discusses how the Enneagram helped her see her type patterns more clearly while Hillary shares how it brought some healing to her and her husband. We also hear how Doug went from the Marine Corps to becoming a monk to then becoming an investment advisor and author of the book, “Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram.”Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgDoug Lyman:Web: douglynam.comEmail: doug@douglynam.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/doug-lynamYouTube: youtube.com/@douglynamFacebook: facebook.com/monktomoneymanagerBook: Taming Your Money Monster: 9 Paths to Money Mastery with the EnneagramSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!Learn More About Evolving Enneagram

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner and Patrick O’Leary, two pioneers in the Enneagram field. Patrick is a founding member of the IEA and co-author of the first Enneagram book, and Jerry is the author of the “Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide” and an honorary founder of the IEA. This conversation dives into the rich history of the Enneagram as a tool, a model and an organization through these teachers’ individual and collective stories.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgDr Jerome Wagner:Web: enneagramspe ctrum.comWeb: training.enneagramspectrum.comWeb: wepss.comEmail: jeromewagnerphd@gmail.comPatrick O’Leary:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/patrick-h-o-leary-5b928760Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode!Learn More About Evolving Enneagram

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to brief conversations with Lindsay Bailey, Mateo Myrvik, Josie Shardlow, Jeannine Myrvik and Nikki Meyers. Lindsay shares how the Enneagram helps her understand her husband, while Mateo, Josie and Jeannine share how the Enneagram plays a role in their family life. Nikki talks about her experience as a first time attendee to the conference and some memories from training by Dr Jerome “Jerry” Wagner.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgLindsay Bailey:Web: rootedcultures.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/enneagramlindsayJosie Shardlow:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josieshardlowJeannine Myrvik:Web: jeanninemyrviklicsw.comNikki Meyer:Web: createjoytravel.comIG: @nikkipuravidacdSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Renée Rosario and Christopher T. Copeland from the Narrative Enneagram. Renée and Christopher share their history with the Enneagram and how it led them to work at the Narrative Enneagram where they became colleagues and friends. More importantly, they reflect on their trips of walking Camino de Santiago together where they developed their deep friendship, which is present throughout the conversation.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgRenée Rosario:Web: narrativeenneagram.orgWeb: enneasight.comChristopher T. Copeland:Web: narrativeenneagram.orgWeb: illuminatingpaths.comPod: Heart of the EnneagramSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we hear brief conversations with Rosemary Hurwitz, Demetrius Parker and The Engagement Committee that consists of Linda Meffert, Sarah McMahill, Roland Legge and Nancy Markow. Rosemary and Demetrius share their origin story with the Enneagram and reflect on the Enneagram community today. We also learn how the Engagement Committee helps the people connect with each other at the conference and their motivation to do this work.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgRosemary Hurwitz:Web: spiritdrivenliving.comDemetrius Parker:Web: enneagrammba.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/demetriusparkerLinda Meffert:Web: mycoffeecoach.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lindabrewstermeffertSarah McMahill:Web: sarahmc.netRoland Legge:Web: relconsultants.comNancy Markow:Web: connectingyouwithyourself.comSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Russ Hudson and Lynda Roberts of The Enneagram Institute. We hear these two longtime friends and colleagues interact as they share their personal history with the Enneagram. We learn the vast differences that led them to become some of the founding members of the Enneagram. Russ talks about the creation of the IEA and becoming the first vice president for the organization. Lynda reveals some of the things that influence how she engages in the Enneagram, such as her time as a high school math teacher. With their origin stories dating back over 25 years, they discuss how the Enneagram community has evolved over time.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgRuss Hudson:Web: russhudson.comWeb: enneagraminstitute.comLynda Roberts:Web: enneagraminstitute.comSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to storybooth interviews from Laura Lentz, Nancy Irish, Dr. Steven Jacob and Joey Jacob. These vignettes recorded at the 2025 IEA Experience present human stories from the dynamic Enneagram community. We hear what drew these four to the Enneagram and how it transformed their lives. Laura talks about her experience as a returning attendee while Nancy shares her hopes to make connections within the Enneagram community during her first time at the conference. Joey and Jacob chat with each other about the Enneagram, sharing their personal connection with Russ Hudson, an Enneagram pioneer and Joey’s brother.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgLaura Lentz:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/laura-lentz-5a207b14Dr. Steven Jacob and Joey Jacob:Web: healthoptionsct.comWeb: joeyjacob.comNancy Irish:Web: internationalenneagram.org/find-a/professional/professional-teachers/#!biz/id/686ffa2b9933bc9d58036b29Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comIG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lee Fields, Lindsey Marks and Seth Abram speak with Suzanne Stabile, an internationally recognized Enneagram Master who has conducted over 500 Enneagram workshops for over 30 years. As a first time attendee at the IEA Experience, Suzanne was one of the Enneagram Pioneers that participated in the Keynote Panel along with Russ Hudson, Anne Mureé and Micky ScottBey Jones. Suzanne is joined on this episode by her husband and son, Joe and Joel, as they reveal their story with the Enneagram–how they learned about it and has become woven in their lives. Drawing from her personal experiences, we hear why her unique and practical approach through storytelling is why she is such an influential voice in the Enneagram community.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgSuzanne Stabile:Web: suzannestabile.comWeb: lifeinthetrinityministry.comIG: @suzannestabilePod: theenneagramjourney.orgSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lee Fields, Lindsey Marks and Seth Abram unpack their experience from the recent Enneagram Experience 2025. With the conference based around experience, they capture the human side of the legends and luminaries of the Enneagram community, including Suzanne Stabile, Russ Hudson, Dr. Jerry Wagner and Patrick O'Leary, highlighting more of who they are and how they relate as people rather than solely focusing on their contribution to the Enneagram. They also facilitated shorter conversational interviews with attendees at the conference that will also be shared in future episodes.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgIEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdfIEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJASeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BLindsey Marks:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastLee Fields:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticSeth Abram:IG: @integratedenneagramPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastAephoria Partners:Web: aephoriapartners.comFB: Aephoria Partners ConsultingMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to the Endnote presentation by Chichi Agorom from the IEA Global Conference in 2023. Chichi is a certified Enneagram teacher and practitioner, Associate Faculty with the Narrative Enneagram, and holds a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling and a Post-Master's Certificate in Marriage and Family Therapy. Drawing from the theme of the conference–Unite and Ignite–she discusses how the Enneagram can be used as a tool for our collective liberation, drawing from her book, “The Enneagram for Black Liberation.” She explores how motivation behind our behavior and context–social, race, gender, social economics, religion, etc, that impact how we see ourselves and other people–are important for our inner work.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgIEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdfIEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJAChichi Agorom:Web: chichiagorom.comBook: The Enneagram for Black LiberationIG: @theenneagramforblackliberationAephoria Partners:Web: aephoriapartners.comFB: Aephoria Partners ConsultingMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore and Ahmad Wazir continue their conversation with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of Think About It and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark. They talk more about his book, “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters,” and his approach to the Enneagram. He highlights shadow work, which illuminates what we are not aware of about ourselves, and explores it within each Enneagram type. He also discusses the distinction between primary type and blind type.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgIEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdfIEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJAFlemming Christensen:Web: flemmingchristensen.comTrainings: flemmingchristensen.com/trainingThe Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.htmlBook: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters”IG: @flemmingchristensencomFB: Flemming ChristensenLinkedIn: Flemming ChristensenSeth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BAhmad Wazir:IG: @ahmadwazir19Pod: Totem ConfidenceAephoria Partners:Web: aephoriapartners.comFB: Aephoria Partners ConsultingMentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore and Ahmad Wazir speak with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of THINK ABOUT IT and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark, about his work with the Enneagram. In this first part of the conversation, we get to know Flemming as he shares stories from his early career, the loss of loved ones, and his discovery of what he calls the “blind type.” Enneagram Trainings Throughout the conversation, Flemming reflects on how his relationship with the Enneagram has evolved - from using it as a tool for consulting to embracing it as a mindset and spiritual practice. He also describes how his Zen Buddhist training has shaped his understanding of presence, awareness, and the deeper purpose of self-inquiry. Connect with Flemming on LinkedIn Highlights from the episode include: 1. The Blind Enneagram TypeFlemming introduces the concept of the blind type—the type whose qualities we resist, ignore, or reject. He describes how discovering his own blind type transformed his relationships, softened his leadership style, and opened new dimensions in his teaching.Listen to the second episode with Flemming Christensen 2. Cultural Perspectives on Growth and TeachingFlemming shares insights gained from working with Enneagram students from diverse cultural backgrounds. From Denmark to Egypt and the United States, he reflects on how cultural values such as equality, authority, and co-creation shape how people learn, teach, and engage in personal development. 3. The Enneagram as a MindsetRather than viewing the Enneagram as just a personality tool, Flemming describes it as a mindset for living. Influenced by Buddhist psychology, he explains how the Enneagram can support presence, surrender, and the capacity to meet life as it is.Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about depth, loss, integration, and what it means to live an Enneagram-informed life.Connect with us: IEA Website IEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form.Mentioned in this episode:Learn About Flemming Christensen

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to Gina Thomas’s presentation about her study that studies the archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram. Gina is an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche and she conducted four interviews with 13 focus groups, asking the participants to illustrate their type. She explores the transcendent function for Enneagram Types Six, Three and Four by interpreting each participant’s drawings. Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgIEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdfIEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJAGina Thomas:Study: Archetype and Imagery in the EnneagramAephoria Partners:Web: aephoriapartners.comFB: Aephoria Partners Consulting

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a presentation by Gina Thomas, MA, an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche. Gina talks about her study that studies archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram through her four interviews with 13 focus groups. She initially focused on Enneagram Types Three, Six and Nine for her master’s thesis and then continued her research on the remaining types after she received her degree. She shares the imagery she asked the participants to create to illustrate their type as a result of their facilitated conversations.Connect with us:Web: internationalenneagram.orgIEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comJoin the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.orgIEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: internationalenneagram.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2025-Proposal-Submission-Information-Guidelines.pdfIEA Global Podcast Proposal Submission Form: forms.gle/Q48QXSwQ3zDfDJaJAGina Thomas:Study: Archetype and Imagery in the EnneagramAephoria Partners:Web: aephoriapartners.comFB: Aephoria Partners Consulting