Finding New Waters

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and Justin McLendon sit down with Matt Nannis, founder and executive director of PIVOTPoint WNCn Asheville.Matt opens up about feeling like an “outsider” and dealing with “imposter syndrome,” and he shares why he started Pivot Point after moving into a sober home in Asheville in 2013. He talks candidly about the guilt and shame he carried in that season, and why Sundays on the trail became the one time he didn’t feel “failure, shameful, degenerate.”You’ll also hear how PIVOTPoint WNC supports adolescents through extended Saturday programming and school partnerships, including how referrals work, why the approach is non-coercive, and what it looks like to build individualized plans that get “to that thing under the thing, under the thing.” Matt breaks down how the organization stays adaptable, how they expand intentionally, and why small habits and discipline can change how we show up in everyday life.Subscribe for more recovery conversations from Finding New Waters. Like the video, leave a comment with your biggest takeaway, and share this episode with someone who needs hope.Timestamps[01:16:59] Welcome back + hosts intro + Matt Nannis introduction (PIVOTPoint WNC)[01:17:59] How B Reeves and Matt first met[01:18:19] Expanding Recovery for Young People conference (Hendersonville)[01:19:11] “Imposter syndrome,” “outsider,” and why Pivot Point started (Asheville 2013)[01:19:35] “Man, I hated it” + guilt and shame in the halfway house[01:20:31] Sunday hikes and not feeling “failure, shameful, degenerate”[01:35:42] Pivot Point model: Saturday program, afterschool program, referrals, non-coercive approach[01:46:45] Where the name “Pivot Point” came from (opportunity and willingness)[01:50:10] Serving families outside Buncombe County + adaptability + school partnerships[01:58:06] Small habits and self-talk: “make your bed,” “brush your teeth”[01:59:17] How to find PIVOTPoint WNC (website + contact info)Guest and Organization LinksPivot Point WNC: https://pivotpointwnc.org/Pivot Point WNC Team (Matt): https://pivotpointwnc.org/the-team/Finding New Waters / New Waters RecoveryNew Waters Recovery: https://newwatersrecovery.com/Finding New Waters: https://www.findingnewwaters.com/#FindingNewWatersPodcast #MattNannis #PivotPointWNC #Recovery #AddictionRecovery #Sobriety #SoberLiving #EarlyRecovery #OutdoorTherapy #TherapeuticAdventure #AshevilleNC #RecoveryCommunity #MentalHealth #Discipline #ShameToHope

Most people know AA. Almost nobody knows the real story of NA. From arrests and raids to meetings on the Staten Island ferry, this episode traces how the NA message survived and spread worldwide. Chris Budnick (Healing Transitions) and Boyd Pickard walk through the chronology and history of Narcotics Anonymous, including early roots connected to the US Public Health Hospital in Lexington, Kentucky (the “narcotic farm”), and the evolution from Addicts Anonymous into Narcotics Anonymous. You will hear how early members faced stigma and real pressure from authorities, why the wording of Step One became a defining innovation, and how the fellowship grew into a global force, including the surprising reality that “one third of all weekly Narcotics Anonymous meetings in the world occur in Iran.” Subscribe for more recovery conversations from Finding New Waters.Like the video, leave a comment with your biggest takeaway, and share this episode with someone who needs hope.TIMESTAMPS (copy/paste)[01:05:53] Introductions and opening[01:06:10] Healing Transitions tough stretch and honoring Byron [01:10:14] Why people know AA but not NA [01:10:52] Boyd’s curiosity about NA roots [01:12:02] Chris’s background and recovery path [01:13:33] Slaying the Dragon and the page and a half on NA history [01:15:02] Narcotic farm and the Lexington story [01:16:33] If you know your history why this matters [01:18:28] Stigma segregation and threats in the early era [01:18:48] Arrests and Staten Island ferry meetings [01:19:51] When did NA officially start [01:21:40] Preserving the Message and why archives matter [01:22:37] Harrison Act and addiction trajectory [01:24:33] Dr Tom Shelby and early AA influence in NC [01:29:52] February 1947 Addicts Anonymous begins [01:32:11] Houston at long last I learned to hope [01:34:14] Danny Carlson coins Narcotics Anonymous [01:34:36] Women’s House of Detention Salvation Army early locations [01:41:52] Danny’s death and stability [01:46:09] Was Bill W helpful to NA [01:48:33] Step One shift changed everything [01:51:01] Total abstinence and modern NA challenges [01:55:03] Nobody believed that addicts could recover [01:59:51] AA vs NA explained [02:03:01] Iran and global NA growth [02:03:19] Recommended resources [02:06:13] Wrap-up and closing GUEST LINKS Chris Budnick (Healing Transitions bio)https://healing-transitions.org/about/leadership/chris-budnick-executive-director/ Healing Transitions (official website)https://healing-transitions.org/ Healing Transitions (mission/about)https://healing-transitions.org/about/ Healing Transitions (services)https://healing-transitions.org/recovery-services/ Boyd Pickard (Preserving the Message bio)https://preservingthemessage.org/about/boyd-pickard/ Preserving the Message (official site)https://preservingthemessage.org/ Healing Transitions (donate page, if you want to include it)https://healing-transitions.org/donate/ FOLLOW NEW WATERS RECOVERYInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻WATCH AND LISTENPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Ronan O’Loughlin, founder and owner of Peace and Purpose Sober Living in Asheville, North Carolina, for a deeply honest conversation about recovery, humility, fear, and the spiritual foundation of long-term sobriety.Ronan shares his personal journey through addiction, immigration, bartending, and eventual recovery, including his path into opening a sober living rooted firmly in 12-step principles. With candor, humor, and wisdom, he reflects on desperation, ego, fear, and what it truly means to live with peace and purpose.This episode explores:Ronan’s recovery journey and early sobrietyAddiction, desperation, and the gift of not wanting to useBartending, ego, and identity in active addictionWhy Peace and Purpose Sober Living was createdThe role of legacy, loss, and service in recovery workFear as the root of anger and ego-based thinkingInfantile expectations and the bondage of selfWhy 12-step foundations still matterHumility, vocation, and doing recovery work for the right reasonsThis is a grounded, reflective conversation about what sustains recovery over time and why authenticity, humility, and spiritual growth remain at the core of lasting change.YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPS00:00 Welcome to Finding New Waters01:00 Introducing Ronan O’Loughlin02:20 Ronan’s addiction and recovery story04:30 Desperation, heroin detox, and early sobriety06:40 Bartending, ego, and identity09:00 Work, immigration, and addiction11:30 The meaning behind Peace and Purpose13:40 Why sober living and how it began16:20 Legacy, loss, and continuing the mission18:50 Service, humility, and recovery as vocation21:30 Fear as the root of anger24:00 Ego-based fear and infantile expectations26:40 The bondage of self29:00 Faith, fear, and spiritual growth31:00 The enduring role of 12-step recovery33:30 Partnering, community, and closing reflectionsGUEST LINKS – RONAN O’LOUGHLIN / PEACE AND PURPOSE SOBER LIVINGWebsite: https://www.peaceandpurposeavl.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/peaceandpurposeavlFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/peaceandpurposeavlFOLLOW NEW WATERS RECOVERYInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncWATCH AND LISTENPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Will Crosswell, therapist, clinical interventionist, and founder of Crosswell Interventions in Austin, Texas, for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about recovery, mental health crises, and the evolving landscape of substance use.Will shares his personal recovery story, his path from residential treatment work to clinical interventions, and why he was drawn back into high-intensity crisis work after years in private practice. Together, the group explores how modern interventions require a trauma-informed, clinical lens, especially as substances like Delta-8, kratom, and other gas-station products drive increasing rates of psychosis and severe mental health instability.This episode explores:Will’s journey into recovery and clinical social workWhat a clinical interventionist is and why it mattersDifferences between substance-use and primary mental health interventionsThe rise of psychosis linked to synthetic and unregulated substancesDelta-8, kratom, kava, and gas-station drugsWhy some people do not fully “come back” after prolonged useFamily systems, healing, and preventing further ruptureFinding joy, music, and freedom in sober livingBuilding a life that no longer requires escapeThis is a powerful conversation about responsibility, honesty, and what it truly means to help families through their darkest moments while protecting long-term recovery.YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPS00:00 Welcome to Finding New Waters01:00 Introducing Will Crosswell02:40 Will’s background and work in mental health and addiction04:30 Will’s recovery story06:30 From treatment centers to clinical interventions08:40 What a clinical interventionist does11:00 Mental health vs substance use interventions13:40 Trauma-informed and family-centered approaches16:00 The rise of psychosis linked to Delta-8 and gas-station drugs18:30 Kratom, kava, and unregulated substances21:00 The danger of normalization and misinformation23:40 Long-term consequences and “not coming back”26:00 Recovery, neutrality, and no longer needing escape29:00 Music, concerts, and sober living32:00 Finding joy and freedom without substances34:30 How to contact Will Crosswell36:00 Final thoughts and closingGUEST LINKS – WILL CROSSWELLWebsite: https://www.crosswellinterventions.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/crosswellinterventionsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/crosswell-interventionsPhone: 830-992-5836FOLLOW NEW WATERS RECOVERYInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncWATCH AND LISTENPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Kelly Scaggs, CEO of Fellowship Hall in Greensboro, North Carolina, for a powerful conversation about recovery, legacy, and the responsibility of caring for people at their most vulnerable.B. shares his personal recovery story and his own experience as a former guest at Fellowship Hall, reflecting on what it means to walk into treatment for the first time, the fear of staying, and the life-changing impact of choosing to participate.Kelly shares the history of Fellowship Hall, now in its 55th year, including how it became North Carolina’s first licensed residential treatment facility, the collaborative spirit that shaped its founding, and why community, humility, and service remain central to its mission today.This episode explores:What it feels like to enter treatment for the first timeThe power of participation in early recoveryFellowship Hall’s origins and 55-year legacyWhy collaboration, not competition, strengthens the recovery fieldThe importance of family programming in treatmentLeadership rooted in clinical experience and humilityAlumni connection, long-term recovery, and paying it forwardYOUTUBE TIMESTAMPS00:00 Welcome to Finding New Waters01:00 B. Reeves shares his Fellowship Hall recovery story03:40 Fear, resistance, and deciding to stay in treatment05:30 Participation as the turning point in recovery07:40 A spiritual experience and finding hope09:30 The privilege of witnessing recovery firsthand11:00 Fellowship Hall’s 55-year history12:30 North Carolina’s first licensed treatment center14:20 Alumni network and community impact16:00 The collaborative nature of the recovery field18:30 Referring clients to the right program20:20 Kelly Scaggs’ path to becoming CEO22:50 Clinical leadership and healthcare administration25:10 Balancing mission and business in treatment27:00 Recovery principles applied beyond addiction29:00 The importance of family programs31:30 Families healing alongside their loved ones34:00 Lifelong connections formed in treatment36:30 How to find Fellowship Hall38:00 Final thoughts and closingGUEST LINKS – KELLY SCAGGS / FELLOWSHIP HALLWebsite: https://www.fellowshiphall.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/fellowshiphallFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/FellowshipHallLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fellowship-hallFOLLOW NEW WATERS RECOVERYInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncWATCH AND LISTENPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Dr. Chantelle Thomas, clinical director at Windrose Recovery and The Manor in Wisconsin, for a deep and honest conversation about trauma, addiction, and healing.Dr. Thomas shares her extensive experience working at the intersection of trauma treatment, substance use recovery, and clinical research. She explains why addiction is often rooted in unresolved trauma, why emotional numbness is common in early recovery, and how true healing requires more than just stopping substance use.This episode explores: • Why trauma reprocessing is essential for long-term recovery • Emotional numbness, dissociation, and “thawing out” in sobriety • How ketamine-assisted psychotherapy is used ethically and responsibly • The difference between dissociative dosing and relational therapeutic dosing • Who ketamine therapy is and is not appropriate for • Why relief does not equal recovery • The risks of underground or unsupervised psychedelic use • How moments of clarity show what’s possible, not the finish lineThis is a grounded, thoughtful discussion that emphasizes safety, ethics, continuing care, and long-term recovery over quick fixes.Timestamps00:00 – Welcome to Finding New Waters01:05 – Weather check and introduction with Dr. Chantelle Thomas03:00 – Windrose Recovery and The Manor overview05:00 – Trauma and its connection to addiction07:10 – Emotional numbness and early recovery09:15 – Introduction to ketamine-assisted psychotherapy11:30 – How ketamine supports trauma reprocessing14:10 – Feeling emotions without judgment17:00 – Dissociation, numbness, and reconnecting with the body19:40 – Dosage, safety, and why context matters22:20 – Who ketamine therapy is not appropriate for24:40 – Why ketamine is not a quick fix27:10 – Why six weeks of treatment matters30:10 – Relief vs recovery and false confidence32:30 – “This is what’s possible” and sustaining progress35:00 – Recovery communities and evolving treatment approaches38:20 – Risks of underground psychedelic use42:00 – Protecting the psyche and ethical responsibility45:00 – Where to find Dr. Chantelle Thomas and her work46:30 – Final reflections and closing⸻🔗 Learn More • Windrose Recovery • The Manor • Integra Healing (Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy) • Blind Spots: Exploring What We Cannot See Podcast📱 Follow Us: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻▶️ Watch & Listen: • Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of the Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves is joined by New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon and special guest Jesse McCraw, Director of Business Development at Driftwood Recovery, for one of the most powerful and emotionally honest conversations in the show’s history.Jesse shares his deeply personal story of addiction, incarceration, loss, and accountability following a tragic drunk-driving accident that changed his life forever. He walks listeners through his journey into recovery, finding Alcoholics Anonymous while incarcerated, and how service, structure, and humility became the foundation of a life rebuilt with purpose.This episode explores the mental reality of addiction, the concept of responsibility versus victimhood, and the transformative power of surrender. Jesse also shares how recovery behind prison walls shaped his approach to leadership, connection, and helping others, and how those experiences continue to guide his work at Driftwood Recovery today.This conversation is raw, reflective, and profoundly human. It is an episode about consequences, grace, forgiveness, and what it means to truly change.⸻⏱️ Chapters00:00 Introduction02:30 Meeting Jesse McCraw and Driftwood Recovery05:00 Jesse’s early sobriety and entry into recovery work08:00 Baseball, identity, and addiction12:00 The night that changed everything18:00 Loss, incarceration, and denial23:00 Addiction and the mental obsession27:00 Hitting bottom while incarcerated31:00 Discovering AA in prison36:00 Working the steps behind bars41:00 Release, reintegration, and early recovery45:00 Building a life of service49:00 Working in treatment and finding purpose54:00 Driftwood Recovery’s philosophy and continuum of care58:00 Accountability, humility, and long-term recovery⸻🔑 Key Topics Covered• Addiction and accountability• Recovery in prison• Alcoholics Anonymous and the 12 steps• Loss, grief, and responsibility• Service as a foundation for recovery• Reintegration after incarceration• Building a meaningful life in sobriety⸻🎧 Listen, Share, and SubscribeFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻📌 Guest & Resource LinksJesse McCraw – Driftwood Recovery biohttps://driftwoodrecovery.com/our-team/jesse-mccraw Driftwood Recovery – Main Websitehttps://driftwoodrecovery.com/ Jesse McCraw LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-mccraw-5a7114110 Jesse McCraw Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/jesse.mccraw/ Jesse McCraw Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/jesse.mccraw.5/ ⸻🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of the Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves is joined by New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon and special guest Colin Harris, founder of Longleaf Recovery & Wellness, for a powerful conversation about recovery, purpose, and building ethical treatment in an underserved state.Colin shares his deeply personal recovery journey, including years of addiction, repeated treatment attempts, and the moment everything changed. He opens up about how lived experience shaped his vision for Longleaf and why Alabama’s lack of quality behavioral health services inspired him to build something different.The conversation dives into the realities of addiction in underserved communities, the importance of outpatient and primary mental health care, and why environment, compassion, and individualized treatment matter. Colin also discusses Longleaf’s rapid expansion across Alabama and an exciting new residential treatment campus currently in development.This episode is honest, hopeful, and grounded in real-world experience, offering insight for professionals, families, and anyone impacted by addiction or mental health challenges.⏱️ Chapters00:00 Introduction01:30 Meeting Colin Harris and shared mission03:00 The need for recovery services in Alabama05:00 Colin’s personal recovery journey09:00 Addiction, treatment, and lived experience12:00 Why Alabama has been underserved15:00 Building Birmingham Recovery Center18:00 Outpatient care and primary mental health22:00 Environment and culture in treatment26:00 Motivation, purpose, and long-term recovery30:00 The Longleaf name and its meaning34:00 Trauma, addiction, and transformation38:00 Meeting people where they are42:00 Residential treatment plans in Alabama47:00 Vision for the future of Longleaf50:00 How to find Longleaf Recovery & Wellness🔑 Key Topics Covered• Recovery in underserved communities• Building ethical treatment programs• Outpatient and primary mental health care• Lived experience in leadership• Trauma and long-term recovery• Family involvement in treatment• Expanding access to care in Alabama🎧 Listen, Share, and SubscribeFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of the Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves is joined by Michael Gilpin, alongside New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon, for an honest and deeply reflective conversation about trauma, recovery, consulting, and the work that continues long after sobriety begins.Michael shares his journey through addiction, long-term recovery, and the moment he realized that being sober wasn’t enough. He opens up about hitting an emotional breaking point years into recovery, confronting unresolved trauma, and choosing to do the deeper work that ultimately reshaped his life and purpose.This episode dives into the realities of working in the mental health and recovery field, the importance of separating personal recovery from professional roles, and why families often need as much support as the individual struggling. Michael also explains what a treatment consultant actually does, how families get “unstuck,” and why long-term guidance can make all the difference.The conversation also explores trauma-informed care, adolescent and young adult treatment, and Michael’s work with The Guest House at Ocala, a nationally respected trauma and addiction program.This episode is thoughtful, raw, and deeply human, especially for anyone who believes sobriety is the finish line, rather than the beginning.⏱️ Chapters00:00 Introduction02:00 Early days in the recovery field05:00 Work identity vs personal recovery08:00 Helping others without losing yourself12:00 What a treatment consultant really does16:00 Family systems and long-term guidance20:00 Adolescents, young adults, and trauma24:00 When sobriety isn’t enough28:00 Hitting a breaking point years into recovery32:00 Trauma intensives and deeper healing36:00 Responsibility, purpose, and recovery40:00 The role of community and belonging44:00 The Guest House at Ocala explained48:00 Final reflections and connection🔑 Key Topics Covered• Trauma and long-term recovery• When sobriety isn’t the finish line• Treatment consulting explained• Family systems and support• Adolescent and young adult treatment• Professional recovery vs personal recovery• Community, purpose, and responsibility🎧 Listen, Share, and SubscribeFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of the Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves is joined by Patrick Balsey, founder of Sauna Counseling, Sauna House, and Sauna Recovery Foundation, and Mike Gminski, former Duke and NBA basketball player turned recovery advocate and mentor.Together, they explore what recovery really looks like when it’s built on safety, humility, community, and purpose.Patrick shares how Sauna has grown from a small counseling practice into a multi-phase extended care program for men, along with the launch of the Sauna Recovery Foundation, a nonprofit created to support families, reduce stigma, and help communities navigate addiction and recovery.Mike opens up about his journey from elite athletics and broadcasting to deep personal loss, addiction, surrender, and long-term sobriety. He shares how recovery reshaped his faith, purpose, and identity, and why transparency and community are essential to healing.This conversation dives deep into surrender, humility, gratitude, family recovery, and why addiction is less about substances and more about the way we relate to life itself.⸻⏱️ Chapters00:00 Introduction02:00 Patrick Balsey’s return and the growth of Sauna05:00 Sauna Counseling and Sauna House explained08:00 Psychodrama, safety, and clinical culture12:00 Sauna Recovery Foundation and family support16:00 Mike Gminski’s athletic background (Duke & NBA)19:00 Alcohol, broadcasting, and gradual progression23:00 Loss, grief, and spiraling addiction27:00 Intervention, accountability, and entering treatment31:00 Recovery, faith, and public transparency36:00 Surrender, humility, and healing40:00 Community, safety, and long-term recovery45:00 Gratitude, purpose, and life after addiction49:00 How to connect with Sauna⸻🔑 Key Topics Covered• Extended care and long-term recovery• Family healing and community education• Addiction beyond substances• Surrender and humility in recovery• Grief, loss, and relapse risk• Professional athletes and addiction stigma• Faith, gratitude, and purpose⸻🎧 Listen, Share, and SubscribeFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of the Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves sits down with Kevin Bandy, co-founder of Voyage Recovery, for a powerful conversation about getting sober young, punk rock culture, family healing, and what real recovery actually looks like.Kevin shares his journey through early addiction, treatment as a teenager, Big Book studies, and finding sober community through straight-edge punk culture. Together, they explore why sobriety can be a radical act, how community saves lives, and why families must heal alongside their loved ones.This episode also dives deep into Voyage Recovery’s unique model, blending outdoor experiential therapy, honest clinical work, and intensive family involvement to help young men reconnect with life, purpose, and their families.Whether you’re in recovery, supporting a loved one, or simply curious about what meaningful healing looks like, this episode offers raw insight, hope, and perspective.⏱️ Chapters00:00 Introduction03:00 Getting sober young and early treatment06:00 Discovering Big Book studies09:00 Realizing addiction was driving every decision12:00 Punk rock, straight edge, and sober community15:00 Giving back through adolescent treatment18:00 Founding Voyage Recovery21:00 Outdoor experiential therapy25:00 Why family work is essential29:00 Radical access and transparency for parents33:00 Helping families heal together37:00 What long-term recovery really looks like41:00 How to find Voyage Recovery🔑 Key Topics Covered• Getting sober at a young age• Punk rock and straight-edge sobriety• Addiction as a power greater than self• Outdoor therapy and experiential recovery• Family healing and accountability• Building community in recovery🎧 Listen, Share, and SubscribeFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this powerful and deeply honest episode of Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves sits down with Chico West for a wide-ranging conversation about sobriety, faith, surrender, and what it truly means to do the work.With 36 years of sobriety, Chico shares his journey from early addiction, arrests, and spiritual emptiness to long-term recovery, counseling, and helping others step into what he calls the messy middle. Together, B and Chico explore how growth often happens not on the mountaintops, but in the valleys, and how peace comes from surrender rather than control.This episode blends recovery wisdom, biblical reflection, personal storytelling, and practical insight for anyone seeking a deeper, more grounded life, whether sober, sober-curious, or simply searching.⸻⏱️ Episode Timestamps00:00 – Welcome and introduction to Chico West02:00 – Finding joy in sobriety and living clean and sober05:00 – “Struggling in the right direction” and life’s worst hands08:30 – Peaks, valleys, and emotional balance in recovery12:00 – What Chico does today: counseling, coaching, and consulting14:30 – Getting sober at 21 and early addiction history20:00 – Doing the work beyond alcohol and addiction24:00 – Faith, brokenness, and true surrender30:00 – Me vs. we: getting out of self35:00 – Building cases in our heads and emotional sobriety41:00 – Returning to faith and a life-changing moment48:00 – Surrendering to win54:00 – How to find Chico West and final reflections⸻🔑 Key Takeaways• Recovery is about more than abstinence; it’s about transformation• Peace comes from surrender, not control• Growth happens in the messy middle, not just success• Faith and recovery can reinforce each other• Long-term sobriety requires daily maintenance and honesty⸻👤 About the Guest: Chico WestChico West is a Licensed Professional Counselor with over three decades of sobriety. He works in private practice, executive consulting, and coaching, and co-hosts the Filter Optional podcast with his wife. Chico specializes in helping people step into emotional honesty, spiritual growth, and long-term healing.📞 Contact: 214-384-7459🎧 Podcast: Filter Optional🎧 Listen, Share, and SubscribeFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

Exploring the Path to Recovery with Momentum Recovery's Rick Barney | Finding New WatersIn this episode of Finding New Waters, host B Reeves, Director of Business Development at New Waters Recovery in Raleigh, converses with Justin McClendon, CEO, and special guest Rick Barney, co-founder and co-owner of Momentum Recovery in Wilmington. Rick, a devoted recovery advocate, shares his personal journey and the genesis of Momentum Recovery while discussing the value of long-term treatment and the essence of community in recovery. Throughout the discussion, they delve into topics such as the importance of continuity of care, family support, and the innovative approaches at Momentum Recovery that help individuals navigate life post-addiction. Tune in to learn more about the impactful work being done at Momentum Recovery and how it’s transforming lives.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:38 Rick's Flight School Adventure01:07 Life in Recovery: Embracing New Passions02:16 Challenges and Misconceptions in Recovery03:36 The Importance of Community and Support09:33 Romantic Relationships in Recovery19:06 Rick's Personal Recovery Journey23:13 Momentum Recovery: A New Approach31:09 Conclusion and Contact InformationFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Thatcher Shively, a clinical interventionist, recovery coach, and Director of Admissions at Feinberg Consulting, a nationally recognized concierge case-management and intervention firm.Thatcher shares openly about being a high-achieving kid whose emotional world collapsed in college. What started as a slow unraveling turned into full-scale addiction, isolation, and a crisis that forced him to confront the truth he’d been running from: his identity was built entirely on performance, perfectionism, and trying to stay “one step ahead” of his own pain.After entering treatment, Thatcher discovered something he never expected — the freedom of letting go. Today, years into recovery, he helps families navigate crisis, rebuild trust, and chart a path toward stability, structure, and long-term healing.This episode is rich with insight about masculinity, pressure, burnout, shame, parenting, and what happens when the life you built finally caves in. It’s a conversation that will resonate deeply with anyone who has struggled with identity, expectations, or feeling like they’re never enough.Learn more about Feinberg Consulting: www.feinbergconsulting.com⸻Timestamps00:00 – Welcome and introduction to Thatcher Shively02:00 – Thatcher’s childhood as a high achiever04:00 – When perfectionism becomes a coping mechanism06:30 – The first cracks showing during college08:30 – Emotional collapse and the spiral into addiction11:30 – Losing control and living in survival mode15:00 – Hitting the breaking point and accepting help18:00 – What treatment revealed about identity and self-worth21:00 – Why high performers struggle to admit they’re struggling24:30 – The role of shame in addiction and burnout27:00 – Rebuilding structure, trust, and emotional safety30:00 – Helping families navigate crisis at Feinberg Consulting33:00 – Masculinity, pressure, and unrealistic expectations37:00 – How to support a loved one without enabling40:00 – The importance of community and ongoing recovery43:00 – Where to find Thatcher and Feinberg Consulting⸻Powerful Quote“I built my identity on performance. Recovery forced me to build it on truth.” – Thatcher Shively⸻Guest BioThatcher ShivelyDirector of Admissions, Feinberg ConsultingThatcher Shively is a clinical interventionist, recovery coach, and the Director of Admissions at Feinberg Consulting, a national case-management and intervention firm helping families navigate mental health, addiction, and complex behavioral crises. Drawing from his own lived experience and professional training, Thatcher specializes in guiding families through chaos toward clarity, structure, and long-term stability. His work focuses on restoring trust, creating safety, and helping individuals reconnect with a healthier sense of identity and purpose.Website: www.feinbergconsulting.comLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/feinberg-consulting⸻Resources Mentioned• Feinberg Consulting – www.feinbergconsulting.com• Recovery Coaching and Case Management• Family Systems and Crisis Support• Emotional Regulation and Identity Work⸻Follow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#ThatcherShively #FeinbergConsulting #AddictionRecovery #HighAchieversAndBurnout #IdentityAndRecovery #FindingNewWaters #MentalHealthJourney #RecoveryCoaching #FamilyHealing

In this heartfelt episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Elizabeth Fikes, co-founder of Stonewater Adolescent Recovery Center in Oxford, Mississippi.Elizabeth shares her family’s deeply personal story — watching her younger brother, Brian, struggle with addiction as a teenager, the shock of realizing how serious it had become, and the heartbreak of sending him to treatment. What started as the worst day of their lives became the beginning of a new purpose. Today, Brian is more than 20 years sober, and together, the Fikes family built Stonewater: a nationally recognized residential treatment center helping adolescent boys heal through a holistic, family-based approach.Elizabeth explains the unique challenges of adolescent recovery, the importance of family involvement, and how Stonewater’s blend of clinical care, academics, structure, and purpose helps boys rebuild confidence and self-worth. She also discusses the upcoming Stonewater Summit Program, designed as a transitional space for graduates to continue growing before returning home.Learn more about Stonewater: www.stonewaterrecovery.comTimestamps00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Elizabeth Fikes03:00 – The origins of Stonewater and Brian’s story05:00 – Sending her brother to treatment: “The worst day of my life”07:00 – Why family healing became the foundation of Stonewater09:00 – What it was like to be the sibling during addiction12:00 – How fathers and mothers process addiction differently15:00 – Building confidence and purpose through structure and dress code18:00 – Teaching accountability and handling discomfort20:00 – Why adolescent treatment is different from adult recovery23:00 – The role of academics and emotional safety26:00 – Debunking the myth that a child must “want help”28:00 – The trauma siblings experience and how to heal it32:00 – Family groups and peer mentorship34:00 – The Stonewater Summit Program37:00 – How to reach Stonewater RecoveryPowerful Quote“The worst day of my life was the day my brother went to treatment. But it also became the best — because it saved his life and changed all of ours.” – Elizabeth FikesGuest BioElizabeth FikesCo-Founder, Stonewater Adolescent Recovery CenterElizabeth Fikes is the co-founder of Stonewater Adolescent Recovery Center, a residential treatment program for boys ages 12–18 in Oxford, Mississippi. Inspired by her family’s experience helping her brother overcome addiction, Elizabeth and her brother Brian founded Stonewater to provide a comprehensive, family-centered approach to adolescent recovery.Stonewater integrates evidence-based clinical care, academics, trauma-informed therapy, and spiritual development to help young men rebuild their lives. Under Elizabeth’s leadership, Stonewater continues to expand with new initiatives like the Stonewater Summit Program, supporting families through every stage of the recovery journey.Website: www.stonewaterrecovery.comResources Mentioned• Stonewater Adolescent Recovery Center – www.stonewaterrecovery.com• Stonewater Summit Program• Family Systems in Adolescent Treatment• Wellbriety Movement – www.whitebison.orgFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncListen & WatchWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#ElizabethFikes #StonewaterRecovery #AdolescentRecovery #FamilyHealing #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWaters #TeenSobriety #FamilySystems #Wellbriety #RecoveryJourney

In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Jeff Georgi, one of the most respected voices in addiction treatment and co-author of Beyond Shame: Healing the Pain Beneath the Surface of Addiction.With over 40 years of clinical experience, including serving as the former Clinical Director of the Duke Addictions Program, Jeff shares his deep understanding of the emotional and spiritual roots of addiction — particularly the role shame plays in keeping people trapped. He opens up about his own journey into recovery, the programs he and his wife Becky have built to help families heal, and how their approach to modified interpersonal group psychotherapy helps patients find hope beyond their pain.Jeff discusses the origins of Bluefield, a program he and Becky developed for college students returning to school after treatment, and the incredible success stories that came from it. He also reflects on the closure of Duke’s addiction program, what it says about the stigma that still surrounds substance use, and why true recovery must address the biological, psychological, social, and spiritual dimensions of addiction.This is a deeply thoughtful, emotional, and inspiring conversation about healing, purpose, and rediscovering the power of hope.⸻Timestamps00:00 – Welcome and introduction01:00 – The origins of Bluefield and helping college students in recovery05:00 – Stories of hope: Bluefield’s first student success07:00 – What inspired the book Beyond Shame09:00 – Training clinicians across South Carolina12:00 – Jeff’s 40-year career in addiction medicine13:00 – Getting started in recovery work after personal sobriety15:00 – Founding the Duke Addictions Program17:00 – How stigma still shapes addiction treatment today20:00 – The myth of “choice” in addiction22:00 – Understanding the biology of addiction24:00 – How trauma and shame fuel substance use30:00 – Breaking the cycle: how families get caught in shame too33:00 – Jeff and Becky’s therapeutic approach to healing families36:00 – Why hope is stronger than shame39:00 – The spiritual side of recovery40:00 – How to contact Jeff and Becky GeorgiGuest BioJeff Georgi, M.Div., MAH, LCMHC, LCAS, CCS, CGPAuthor, Clinician, and EducatorWith more than 40 years in the field of addiction and mental health, Jeff Georgi has helped thousands of individuals and families find healing. He is the former Clinical Director of the Duke Addictions Program and has served in multiple departments at Duke University Medical Center, including Surgery, Obstetrics, and Psychiatry.Alongside his wife Becky, Jeff runs Georgi Educational and Counseling Services, where they offer therapy, training, and consultation to clinicians and families. His latest book, Beyond Shame, provides a framework for understanding addiction as a biopsychosocial-spiritual disease and helps clinicians and families address the pain beneath addictive behavior.Website: www.georgieducationalandcounseling.comBook: Beyond Shame: Healing the Pain Beneath the Surface of AddictionResources Mentioned• Beyond Shame – available on Amazon• Bluefield Program (for college students in recovery)• Modified Interpersonal Group Psychotherapy• Duke University Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences• Georgi Educational and Counseling Services – www.georgieducationalandcounseling.comFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncListen & WatchWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Dan Gilmer, Director of Clinical Outreach for TNR Recovery Group, which operates programs including Cypress Lake Recovery and Origins in Texas.Dan shares his powerful story of getting sober at just 20 years old after years of addiction that began when he was 13. He opens up about discovering Oxycontin as a teenager, chasing that first feeling for years, and finally finding peace through treatment, faith, and service.From relapsing to rebuilding, Dan’s honesty and humility shine through as he reflects on what it means to truly trust God, maintain a daily reprieve, and find joy in helping others. He also shares how his journey led him to a meaningful career in recovery outreach and how accountability, family, and faith continue to shape his life today.Learn more about Dan’s work and TNR Recovery Group: www.tnrrecoverygroup.comTimestamps00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Dan Gilmer01:00 – Dan’s role at TNR Recovery Group03:00 – Discovering Oxycontin at age 1305:00 – Getting sober at 20 after multiple treatment attempts06:00 – Starting sober living homes in Baton Rouge08:00 – What it’s like to get sober young in Louisiana10:00 – Learning to trust God and rely on faith13:00 – The difference between believing in God and trusting God15:00 – Learning when to “end the day and go to sleep”17:00 – Daily reprieve and spiritual maintenance20:00 – Life in early sobriety and the power of community23:00 – Family, honesty, and doing a fearless inventory25:00 – Marriage, fatherhood, and trusting God’s plan28:00 – The gift of helping others in recovery31:00 – The power of accountability and service34:00 – Overview of TNR Recovery Group programs37:00 – What is the Wellbriety track?39:00 – How to connect with TNR Recovery and Dan GilmerPowerful Quote“The best things in my life are the ones I never planned. God’s plan is always better than mine.” – Dan GilmerGuest BioDan GilmerDirector of Clinical Outreach, TNR Recovery GroupBased in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Dan Gilmer serves as the Director of Clinical Outreach for TNR Recovery Group’s Texas programs, including Cypress Lake Recovery and Origins. He oversees outreach, alumni, and aftercare operations, connecting individuals with life-changing recovery services.Having found sobriety at 20, Dan uses his personal experience to inspire others—especially young people struggling with addiction—to seek help and find purpose through recovery. A husband, father, and devoted member of his recovery community, Dan believes in living a life rooted in faith, service, and accountability.Website: www.tnrrecoverygroup.comLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dan-gilmerResources Mentioned• TNR Recovery Group – www.tnrrecoverygroup.com• Cypress Lake Recovery – www.cypresslakerecovery.com• Origins Behavioral HealthCare – www.originsrecovery.com• Sabino Recovery – www.sabinorecovery.com• Wellbriety Movement – www.whitebison.orgFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncListen & WatchWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#DanGilmer #TNRRecoveryGroup #CypressLakeRecovery #AddictionRecovery #SobrietyJourney #FindingNewWaters #FaithInRecovery #YoungSobriety #Wellbriety #RecoveryCommunity

In this deeply emotional and inspiring episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Jennifer Levi, founder of the Live Like Braun Foundation, to share the story of unimaginable loss, love, and legacy.Jennifer opens up about losing her 18-year-old son, Braun, to a drunk driver — just months after their family lost their home in the California wildfires. Rather than let grief consume her, she and her family chose action. The Live Like Braun Foundation was born to honor Braun’s life — one defined by kindness, compassion, inclusivity, and a magnetic spirit that inspired everyone he met.Jennifer discusses her mission to raise awareness about DUI reform, launch scholarships for students pursuing higher education or trade programs, and spread Braun’s message of living boldly and leading with love. She also shares her advocacy work with MADD and efforts to implement AI-powered car technology that could prevent impaired driving.This episode is both heartbreaking and hopeful — a reminder that even in the darkest moments, one person’s story can spark a nationwide movement for change.Learn more and support: www.livelikebraunfoundation.orgFollow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/livelikebraunfoundationTimestamps00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Jennifer Levi01:30 – The California wildfires and family displacement03:00 – Losing Braun to a drunk driver05:00 – Choosing action over isolation06:30 – “The worst day of my life became my life’s work”08:00 – How the Live Like Braun Foundation began10:00 – Scholarships, awareness, and impact12:00 – The problem with lenient DUI laws in California15:00 – AI and technology to prevent drunk driving18:00 – Education and defensive awareness for teens21:00 – Partnering with MADD and law enforcement23:00 – How Live Like Braun is inspiring kids nationwide25:00 – Scholarships for trade schools and college students27:00 – Healing through service and purpose30:00 – Where to follow and get involvedPowerful Quote“The worst day of my life has now become my life’s work.” – Jennifer LeviGuest BioJennifer LeviFounder, Live Like Braun FoundationJennifer Levi is the founder of the Live Like Braun Foundation, an organization created to honor her late son, Braun, who was tragically killed by a drunk driver at 18 years old. The foundation promotes kindness, inclusivity, and courage — values Braun embodied — while also raising awareness around impaired driving and providing scholarships for students pursuing higher education, trade, or vocational programs.Jennifer’s advocacy includes working with MADD and state leaders to strengthen DUI laws, introduce AI-powered prevention technology in vehicles, and provide educational programs in high schools. Through her work, she continues to turn unimaginable pain into a movement of hope and purpose.Website: www.livelikebraunfoundation.orgInstagram: www.instagram.com/livelikebraunfoundationResources Mentioned• Live Like Braun Foundation – www.livelikebraunfoundation.org• MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) – www.madd.org• HALT Act & AI Vehicle Technology• “Defensive Living” Education Programs for TeensFollow Finding New WatersInstagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncListen & WatchWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#JenniferLevi #LiveLikeBraun #DUIAwareness #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWaters #GriefToPurpose #ScholarshipFoundation #ImpairedDrivingPrevention #BraunLeviLegacy #MADD

In this powerful episode, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Brian Hughes, Regional Resource Director at Caron Treatment Centers. Brian shares his jaw-dropping story—rising through the beer industry at Sam Adams, spiraling into addiction, landing in federal prison, and ultimately finding purpose through recovery.Today, Brian helps others find their way out of the darkness. He walks us through Caron’s legacy, his work across the Northeast and Southeast, and how addiction doesn’t discriminate—whether you’re homeless or a CEO. This is a raw, redemptive conversation about second chances, humility, and the power of recovery.Follow Caron & Contact Brian HughesWebsite: https://www.caron.orgEmail: bhughes@caron.orgFollow Finding New Waters & New Waters RecoveryInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mnTimestamps00:00 – Meet Brian Hughes from Caron Treatment Centers01:15 – Caron’s legacy and history in addiction treatment03:00 – Brian’s background: Sam Adams, alcohol industry, and addiction05:00 – His rock bottom: FBI arrest and federal prison07:00 – First nudge from a judge: 40 days in prison08:30 – Starting an AA group while incarcerated09:30 – Why humility was the key to getting free11:30 – Re-entering the world and recovery work post-prison13:00 – Landing his first recovery job—while pleading guilty14:00 – Why his record is now his greatest asset16:30 – Sitting with people in crisis and offering hope18:00 – Getting hired by Caron and learning from leaders19:30 – Why lived experience matters in this field21:00 – The importance of dignity and respect in recovery23:00 – What Brian’s job looks like today: family navigation & advocacy25:00 – How collaboration beats competition in addiction treatment26:30 – Overview of Caron’s programs and campuses28:30 – Signature programs: Grandview, Monarch, and Ocean Drive30:00 – Caron’s neurocognitive treatment approach31:00 – Admitting younger clients (as young as 17)32:00 – Final thoughts on humility, service, and second chances33:00 – How to connect with Brian and learn more about CaronHashtags#BrianHughes #CaronTreatmentCenters #AddictionRecovery#FindingNewWatersPodcast #RecoveryStory #SecondChances#FromPrisonToPurpose #NeurocognitiveTherapy #SubstanceUseHelp#ReentrySupport #SoberLeadership #MentalHealthAwareness#AlcoholRecovery #12StepRecovery #RedemptionThroughService

In this episode, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Drew Horowitz, founder of Drew Horowitz & Associates, to break down what interventions are—and what they aren’t. Drew shares his personal story of recovery, his own intervention in NYC, and how that experience led him to a career helping families navigate addiction, mental health, and crisis with professionalism and heart.They explore the misconceptions around interventions, the role of sober transport and companions, and how families can better understand the emotional and financial costs of untreated addiction. Whether you’re a loved one trying to help someone take the first step or a professional in the field, this episode is a must-listen.Follow Drew Horowitz & AssociatesWebsite: https://www.drewhorwitzassociates.comFollow Finding New Waters & New Waters RecoveryInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mnTimestamps00:00 – Intro: Meet Drew Horowitz01:00 – What Drew Horowitz & Associates does03:00 – Drew’s personal intervention story and path to recovery05:30 – What a compassionate intervention really looks like07:00 – Misconceptions from pop culture and TV09:30 – The four models of intervention12:00 – Common barriers to treatment (work, fear, control)15:00 – The difference between persuasion and empowerment17:00 – Why shame never works19:00 – The manipulative patterns of addiction21:00 – Why families get stuck in the same cycle23:00 – Navigating overwhelming treatment options25:00 – Talking finances: reality vs emotional cost27:00 – Sober transport: getting people safely to care28:30 – Companion services explained32:00 – Smoothing the landing post-treatment35:00 – What recovery actually costs when left untreated37:00 – Additional consulting services39:00 – Why their team stays focused on what they do best40:00 – How to find and contact Drew Horowitz & AssociatesHashtags#DrewHorowitz #InterventionSupport #AddictionRecovery#FindingNewWatersPodcast #SoberTransport #SoberCompanion#FamilyRecovery #MentalHealthIntervention #RecoverySupport#SubstanceUseHelp #CrisisIntervention #TreatmentNavigation#NewWatersRecovery #AddictionResources #CompassionateCare