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On Darwin Day, marking the birthday of Charles Darwin, we ask a question that continues to divide believers and sceptics alike: Does evolution point us toward God… or away from Him?
In this special episode of Premier Unbelievable? hosted by Andy Kind, molecular biologist and theologian Dr Denis Alexander joins philosopher and sceptical thinker John Catt for a thoughtful and robust conversation on the worldview implications of evolutionary theory.
Dr Alexander argues that evolutionary science is fully compatible with Christian faith and can be understood within a theistic framework. John Catt contends that Darwinian evolution has historically undercut traditional religious belief and sits more naturally within an atheistic worldview.
Together they explore:
Has evolution made God redundant? Is Darwinian natural selection inherently atheistic? Can divine purpose operate through undirected processes? What did Darwin himself believe? Why has evolution become such a cultural flashpoint?
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Luke Martin's special guest this week is Glen Scrivener talking about the surprising new openness to Christianity in Britain and beyond. Drawing on themes from his book The Air We Breathe. Glen explores why younger generations may be less gripped by old atheism debates and more drawn to questions of meaning, identity, masculinity, community and cultural roots. The conversation looks at whether the West is rediscovering its Christian foundations, why church can feel newly plausible to sceptics, and how public figures such as Joe Rogan and Andrew Huberman may be shifting the cultural mood. Luke and Glen also discuss revival language, institutional distrust, faith and science, and whether Christianity offers the moral grounding many modern people already assume. Finally, they tackle politics, Christian nationalism, Tim Keller’s “third way”, and how the church can respond wisely, courageously and evangelistically to this cultural moment.
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In this episode of Unbelievable?, host John Nelson is joined by philosophers Amos Wallen (Oxford) and Dr Joshua Sijuwade to debate whether Christianity can be supported by a priori reasoning - arguments based purely on logic rather than historical evidence.
Dr Sijuwade argues that philosophical reflection on God’s nature may lead to surprising conclusions, including the incarnation and even the Trinity. Drawing on ideas from thinkers like Richard Swinburne, he explores whether concepts such as perfect goodness, omniscience and divine love logically point toward core Christian doctrines.
But Amos Wallen is sceptical. Do these arguments really increase the probability of Christianity - or do they simply show that some form of incarnation is possible? And can philosophical theories of love, divine knowledge, and omnisubjectivity really lead us all the way to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
Along the way, the conversation tackles big questions:
Can philosophy establish an incarnation without history? Does God need a body to fully understand human experience? Can perfect love logically require multiple divine persons? And if the Trinity follows from love… why stop at three? This wide-ranging philosophical exchange dives deep into reason, theology and metaphysics, asking whether pure logic can take us all the way to Christianity - or whether faith ultimately needs something more.
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In this Classic Replay of Unbelievable? Podcast, we delve into the fascinating journey of Leah Libresco, once a prominent atheist blogger who made headlines by converting to Catholicism. Her story gained attention across both religious and secular spheres, including a feature on CNN.
Leah sits down with Hemant Mehta, widely known as the Friendly Atheist, for a topical discussion about the moral arguments that played a pivotal role in her conversion journey. Hemant quizzes Leah on her decision to embrace Catholicism, providing listeners with an insightful exchange that explores the intricacies of faith, reason, and personal conviction.
Listeners also get the chance to participate as Leah and Hemant field questions, offering deeper insights into Leah's faith journey and the broader dynamics of faith and atheism.
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This episode originally aired on: 23 June 2014
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In this Unbelievable? debate shot in front of a live audience at Leicester Secular Hall, Andy Kind hosts two Christian thinkers who still manage to clash sharply: Professor Keith Fox (Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biological Sciences at Southampton University, where he led research on DNA recognition and structure) argues that theistic evolution best explains life’s diversity, while Peter S. Williams (Christian philosopher and apologist, and Adjunct Professor in Communication and Worldviews at NLA University College, in Norway) contends intelligent design can be a legitimate scientific inference in biology as well as cosmology.
With the twist that they attend the same church (and sit near each other!), the conversation stays warm but rigorous covering falsifiability, “designer/God of the gaps” concerns, irreducible complexity, junk DNA, and whether ID predicts anything testable. Audience Q&A pushes further into divine action, miracles, suffering, and the “fall,” as both guests probe what Christian belief can (and can’t) say about the natural world.
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Luke Martin is joined by Dr Sharon Dirckx, Cambridge-trained brain-imaging scientist and some time Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics speaker, for a wide-ranging conversation on the mind, meaning and what makes us human. Sharon reflects on her journey from biochemistry into fMRI research, including work on addiction, and explains why consciousness remains a “hard problem” for purely material accounts of the mind. They explore the language of “soul”, what Christians do (and don’t) mean by it, and why near-death experiences raise provocative questions about whether we are more than our brains. Sharon, author of Am I Just My Brain? also weighs the cultural shift away from hard reductionism, engages the promise and limits of AI, and argues for a wiser, more disciplined partnership with technology. Finally, the conversation turns to natural suffering and Sharon’s book Broken Planet, offering a grounded Christian framework for pain, hope and healing.
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Recorded at Aylesbury High School, Sam McKee hosts a lively Unbelievable? Podcast schools debate on one of life’s biggest questions: are we really free? Cambridge PhD researcher Matthew Su and Oxford philosopher of mind Amna Whiston go head-to-head on libertarian free will, determinism, and compatibilism and why it matters for moral responsibility, justice, and everyday choices. Can hunger, habit, upbringing, or neuroscience quietly steer our decisions? Are we “puppets” of biology, or genuinely authors of our actions? The conversation ranges from courtroom judgment and temptation to mental health, personhood, and whether AI and “philosophical zombies” help or hinder the case for human agency. Expect sharp definitions, real-world examples, and brilliant student questions starting @33:34 mins in.
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In February 2012 Sofia Europa sponsored a discussion between Richard Dawkins and Rowan Williams, the then-Archbishop of Canterbury, on the question of Human Nature and Our Ultimate Origins. The discussion was chaired by agnostic Prof Sir Anthony Kenny. It is broadcast here in full.
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Why isn’t God more obvious? In this episode of Premier Unbelievable, host John Nelson is joined by Dan Paterson (Questioning Christianity) and Joe Schmid (agnostic philosopher; Princeton doctoral researcher and youtuber at Majesty of Reason) to tackle the argument from divine hiddenness. If a perfectly loving God exists, why are there sincere seekers who still can’t believe, and why does God sometimes feel silent in suffering? They unpack J.L. Schellenberg’s formulation, debate deductive vs evidential versions, and explore whether cultural demographics, religious diversity, and tragedy point towards naturalism or theism. Dan argues Christianity has ancient resources for hiddenness; Joe presses the evidential weight of silence. Listen for Pascal, conscience, and the cross, and share where you land in the comments.
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Christianity is back in the conversation, and Dr Andrew Ollerton thinks it’s more than a moment. In this episode of Premier Unbelievable? The Interview, Luke Martin sits down with the Bible Society theologian, pastor, and creator of The Bible Course to explore the “Quiet Revival” and why Gen Z (and big-name podcasters) are re-opening the Bible.
Andrew introduces his new book, God’s Book: An Honest Look at the Bible , and tackles the seven toughest topics readers stumble over: credibility, Genesis and science, Old Testament violence, slavery, and alleged sexism. With clarity and warmth, he argues for reading Scripture “in context, in Christ, and in community” and why faith isn’t trust in a text alone, but in a person.
If you’re curious, sceptical, or stuck, this conversation will help you lean in, not shut the book.
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What does Christian political witness look like in a plural, polarized democracy and should Christians ever aim for a “Christian nation”?
In this episode of Premier Unbelievable?, John Nelson hosts a frank and high-stakes conversation on Christian nationalism, secularism, and the future of liberal democracy.
Doug Wilson, pastor of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, argues that nations are moral agents accountable to God, and defends a vision he calls “theocratic libertarianism”—limited government, but explicitly Christian moral foundations.
Dr. Michael Bird, biblical scholar and Anglican priest, agrees politics is never neutral—but warns that certain models of Christian nationalism risk disenfranchising minorities, repeating Europe’s religious conflicts, and undermining the freedom required for genuine faith.
From immigration and pluralism to abortion, marriage, and religious liberty, this conversation asks:
Can secularism actually protect Christian society?Who gets full civic rights in a “Christian republic”?Is Christian nationalism a renewal of moral order—or a road to coercion?How should Jesus’ model of leadership reshape political ambition?Join us as we dive into one of the most contested questions in public Christianity today.
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From the Archives: How should Christians understand the Adam & Eve story in Genesis? Is it scientifically plausible that humanity can be traced back to a first human couple? What does it mean for the concept of ‘Original Sin’?
These and more questions are discussed by Christian philosopher William Lane Craig, author of the new book ‘In Quest of the Historical Adam’, and computational biologist Joshua Swamidass, author of ‘The Genealogical Adam & Eve’.
At the end of the show, Ruth Jackson talks to Tim Moyler about the evangelistic resource ‘Living & Telling’.
First Aired: 13 August 2021
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Daily Wire co-founder Jeremy Boreing joins John Nelson for a wide-ranging conversation about media, power and faith in a post-Christian West. Boreing describes how Hollywood sharpened his convictions and why The Daily Wire was designed as a digital counterweight to legacy media. They unpack how culture shapes belief beneath the level of argument, and why entertainment can move public morality faster than politics. Boreing addresses the seductions of influence, the “grift” economy, and the danger of Christianity being reduced to a tribal marker in the culture wars. The discussion ranges from Trump and evangelicalism to conspiracy thinking, antisemitism, and the rise of illiberal “Christ is King” rhetoric. Finally, Boreing explains why he stepped back from leadership and reveals his passion project: Rise of the Merlin an ambitious adaptation of Lawhead’s Pendragon Cycle
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What if the biggest debates about marriage, gender, and family have been framed around the wrong people?
In this eye-opening conversation, Luke Martin is joined by Katy Faust, Founder and President of Them Before Us, a global movement arguing that children not adults should be at the centre of family policy and cultural change. Katy challenges some of the most deeply held assumptions of modern life, asking what happens when adult fulfilment is prioritised over the rights and needs of the young.
The show explores the differences between men and women, why mothers and fathers matter in distinct ways, and how feminism, divorce, and church leadership shape children’s lives. Luke and Katy do not shy away here from today’s most controversial issues - gay marriage, surrogacy, IVF, sperm and egg donation, and the claim that “love makes a family.” Drawing on natural law, social science, and lived experience, Katy makes a powerful case that marriage and family are first matters of justice for children. Her book Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement (Post Hill Press, 2021), co-authored with Stacy Manning, expands this argument in depth.
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Premier Unbelievable host John Nelson gathers a lively roundtable to ask a timely question: what’s the current state of Christian apologetics—and where should it go next? Scientist and historian of science Sam McKee (University of Reading / Manchester Metropolitan) argues that apologetics often lags decades behind today’s life sciences, too easily dominated by creationist “marketing machines”, and too quick to platform non-experts as authorities.
Joining him are Northern Irish apologist and civil servant Gareth Black, OCCA speaker and war studies postgraduate Sara Stevenson, and US-based YouTuber Mike Jones (Inspiring Philosophy). Together they wrestle with expertise, overreach, and epistemic humility—alongside the promise of friendship, local church discipleship, and better science communication.
Is the “conflict” narrative between science and faith finally fading? And what might a more relational, Bible-shaped apologetics look like in 2026?
0:00 – Apologetics After New Atheism
0:46 – Meet the Panel (Science + Faith)
4:06 – Science Problem in Christian Apologetics
5:12 – Genetics & Biology Revolution (CRISPR, AlphaFold)
7:43 – Creationism vs Science: Why It Hurts Faith
8:33 – Why Students Leave Church (Science vs Faith)
9:44 – Faraday Institute: Elite Christian Scientists
11:10 – Stop Platforming Non-Experts
13:16 – Genesis 1: Literalism vs Context
15:47 – Science vs Religion “War” Myth
18:45 – Social Media Apologetics: Pros & Cons
21:18 – Flat Earth Theology & Conspiracy Drift
28:02 – C.S. Lewis: “Christianity Latent”
31:06 – Apologetics Echo Chamber (Same Arguments)
35:41 – Elite Apologists vs Everyday Christians
39:49 – Christianity Built Civilization (Sociology)
46:40 – Friendship Model Apologetics (Community)
52:54 – Debates, Revival & Future Strategy
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In a world riddled with conflict, where headlines scream of violence and unrest, the age-old question resurfaces: Is war ever justified, or should Christians wholeheartedly embrace pacifism? Join esteemed scholars Nigel Biggar and Stanley Hauerwas as they delve into the moral complexities of war and peace from a Christian perspective in this classic replay episode.
Nigel Biggar, renowned theologian and ethicist, brings his nuanced understanding of just war theory, exploring the conditions under which Christians might find themselves compelled to engage in warfare.
Stanley Hauerwas, also a leading voice in Christian ethics, advocates for a radical alternative: pacifism. Hauerwas challenges listeners to reconsider conventional notions of power and violence, urging a transformative approach rooted in love and nonviolence.
This episode originally aired on: 8 November 2014
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Recorded in Premier’s new London studios, John Nelson welcomes Rod Dreher for a wide-ranging conversation about freedom, faith, and the West’s growing spiritual hunger.
Drawing on his bestselling book Live Not By Lies, Dreher argues that today’s greatest threat is not Orwell-style tyranny but Huxley’s “soft totalitarianism” a culture that trades liberty for comfort, safety, and approval. Together, they explore the cost of discipleship, why suffering still matters (from Solzhenitsyn to Bonhoeffer), and how “therapeutic” Christianity leaves believers unprepared for pressure and loss.
Dreher also reflects on meeting Nick Cave, the search for transcendence, and why many young adults are moving from scepticism to spirituality sometimes via the occult. He concludes by introducing themes from his new book Living in Wonder, calling Christians to recover beauty, liturgy, prayer, and a hopeful (not naïve) vision for the future.
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Malcolm Guite joins Luke Martin for a wide-ranging Unbelievable: The Interview conversation on poetry, faith, and the power of imagination. Known as a poet, priest, and academic (and former chaplain of Girton College, Cambridge), Guite reflects on the writers who shaped him from Augustine to Coleridge, and especially C.S. Lewis and Tolkien. Why does imagination matter for truth, not just feelings? And what happens to a culture when “reason” becomes narrow, utilitarian, and disenchanted? Guite engages the modern hunger for beauty, tradition, and meaning, arguing we don’t need to “re-enchant” the world so much as un-disenchant ourselves. He also shares what he’s writing next: an epic poetic retelling of the Arthurian cycle Galahad and the Grail: Merlin’s Isle (Volume 1), out in March 2026 - a retelling restoring the Christian bedrock of the Arthurian legend and the Holy Grail, inspired by the Inklings.
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Can Christian faith survive a scientific age—or even thrive in it?
Andy Kind explores physics, faith, and meaning with Cambridge philosopher Dr Emily Qureshi-Hurst and scientist Sam McKee.
Drawing on Emily’s new book Decoding the Cosmos, the conversation tackles cosmic fine-tuning, design arguments, the multiverse, the limits of physics, and whether science could ever deliver a true “theory of everything”.
Emily explains why she is an atheist who rejects New Atheism, while Sam reflects on why Christianity remains the most coherent model of reality for him as a scientist. The discussion then moves into deeper territory—time, salvation, incarnation, and even the theological implications of alien life—raising profound questions about human uniqueness, divine action, and cosmic hope.
A thoughtful, warm, and often surprising conversation for anyone curious about science, philosophy, and faith.
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Rewind to this hot debate! What does it mean to be truly human in an age of artificial intelligence, declining religious belief, and rising spiritual hunger?
Oxford mathematician and Christian apologist Professor John Lennox and cognitive scientist Dr John Vervaeke of the University of Toronto explore whether AI threatens or reveals our uniqueness, if meaning can exist without God, and whether spiritual transformation is possible in a post-religious age.
Along the way, they challenge one another on the logos, consciousness, and the enduring power of the Book of Revelation.
Lennox draws from his new book, God, AI and the End of History, to argue for a Christian vision of wisdom and hope.
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Under Islam Great Britain "could turn into a living Paradise". Well I just saw my eye sockets for the first time. I now know what every teenage girl in the '80s felt like when they rolled their eyes so far back they could check their bangs. All I can say in reply to this disgusting assertion is flash Forward to Europe New Year's Eve 2026, and literally any country that is under Islamic control...hellscapes as far as the eye can see.
Islam, Judaism, and most Christians miss the point that Christ is the Logos, which is inadequately translated as the "Word". Anyone willing to investigate the meaning and concept of Logos incarnate will come to see Jesus as the one and only Lord and Saviour.
I found this somewhat boring. I don't know if it was the guests, the fact that it has a format for radio, the host, or a combination.
Absolutely awesome discussion. I must highlight David's statement: "I did not become celibate because I'm gay, but because Jesus is worthy". Wow!
bizarrely, it looks like this podcast has been hijacked by a short story podcast also called 'unbelievable'
There is nothing more annoying than listening to an "atheist"... they all come across as petulant children with daddy issues.
What a diverse panel! /s This show has seriously lost the original appeal of having opposing viewpoints. Of course - the Bible condones slavery. And, the morality of the Bible is subjective and relative. Twist all the pretzels you want.
Great... Christians can even agree on hell, and atheists are constantly threatened with it. It never stops amazing me how believers claim to have to the truth about a god, life, the universe, afterlife, and so on - but they don't even agree within themselves. It reminds me of being a Christian in the 90s when there were Christian bookstores all around. There would only be a couple rows of Bibles (in multiple translations), and dozens of rows of other books trying to explain the Bibles.
Listening to this in 2024, with the benefit of hindsight, is amazing. Note the section from ±50:00–62:00. Andrea mentions, near the end, how the religious right's alliance with Trump had not had much fruit, with Roe v Wade as an example. We all know how that turned out, and I would love to hear what she thinks about that. Having said that, I absolutely think Andy Flanagan and Andrea are on the money with their concerns about the price we pay for such alliances. John's response misses the point.
great episode
a hill of beans
what about the millions of people born with an unclear gender or mixed gender (xxy, hormonal disbalance and others)
Typical theists skipping over awkward questions about the embarrassing parts of the bible such as slavery being endorsed. Theists only ever cherry pick the nice parts. The Bible is a vulgar book of fables that endorses genocide, misogyny, homophobia, slavery, racism and child abuse
do you have catholics on?
Thank you! I would love to hear a discussion about covenant theology vs dispensationalism. This one touches on it, but doesn't focus on it.
This was really helpful, thank you! As a "reformed" Christian, I really wanted to understand arguments from the other side.
this was ridiculous and best summed with "I don't know know what your are talking about....but it's not science"
I am sick of these stupid race debates. it doesn't matter what skin colour Jesus is. He is the Lord. the devil is using the race issues to defend us more and we keep letting it happen. Just stop it. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
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I loved this discussion, but it seems to have had an issue in the middle where the audio starts to replay an earlier segment.