Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal

A drum themed protest record with chants? Yeah, that sounds like a good record store day purchase. The fantastic drummer for Season to Risk, David Silver comes on Protonic to talk all about it an all-percussion album designed to energize and unify the defense of democracy, joined by Ian Prince (Houston, BirdHands). Featuring Matt Chamberlain, Blake Fleming, Kliph Spurlock, Greg Saunier and many more this is a unique and cool project, whose digital versions include EXTENDED versions to be played at nonviolent protests over a Loud speaker. We talk about that, all the recent activities in Minneapolis with ICE, as well as Ian Prince's DIRECT ACTION WITH DRUMS, amongst many other hot button political items. Hear all about how the record on Skinsuit Communications, came together, how to make protests more effective, and more. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Stay Puft is a Ghostbusters themed concept record by the music collective known as The Chop. These are the same guys responsible for The Beverly Crushers (a Star Trek The Next Generation themed concept band that Rob Kassees was on for), and Ghostbeef, a post-apocalyptic concept record about the fast food chain Arby's. Tom doesn't just play bass for these wild conceptual records, but he's also part of the pantheon of the increasingly popular 1001 Album Complaints podcast. Where Classic albums' from the 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die book are given full backstories told by musicians who love to mercilessly nitpick the details. Conan has been a guest on this great show before and will again. This is a deep dive into all things Ghostbusters and a detailed song by song breakdown of the record. Why not? The title of this very show was inspired by the movie! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Six years have past since Chris Spencer was last on Protonic! At the time Human Impact was brand new. So let's catch up. Starting with the reissue of Occupational Hazard on Lamb Unlimited. Remastered and including the AmRep demos. Unsane with Eric Cooper and Jon Syverson will be doing a lot of touring this year, along with an appearance at Roadburn! We speak about that as well the incredible story behind the release of the once lost, than found Improvised Munitions, and exactly where The Ernie Chicorelli disappeared to...the nature of the Telecaster and why it is the perfect guitar for Chris. The Body Bomb video (and MTV's very succinct response), synergy with the sonic science of Jim Coleman with Human Impact. Human Impact writing something like 48 songs during the pandemic. Celan Recording in Berlin's Neubauten studio in a wild two-week sprint. Cutthroats 9, Frank Kozik and Man's ruin. All that and so very much more! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

4 years and a month ago (what? Really?), William Goldsmith was on to talk about Sunny Real Estate, Fire Theft, Foo Fighers and Assertion. Now Assertion has a new record that snuck into Conan's top records of 2025 "Basking in the Gaslight". In additon to that Sunny Day Real Estate has been back and playing shows ! The "Down in the Park" sessions with the Foo Fighters (as well as some great talk about Gary Numan).. the recording of Diary and history of that as well as revisiting. Which albums William can listen to and which he can't... and that there are 3 2" tapes of 90s Sunny Day Real Estate waiting to get listened to. Wow! All this plus SDRE and Fire Theft history. William's powerful friendship with Scott Jernigan of KARP, including a two drummer project! and lots, lots more. It's been a long time, let's catch up. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: switchblades). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

B. Hamilton - B. Hamilton - Good Foot (ep429) Lung - The Swankeeper - The Money Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays - Break Me In (ep425) mclusky - the world is still here and so are we - way of the exploding dickhead PLOSIVS - YELL AT CLOUD - Falls Equivalency HLLLYH - URUBURU - Black Rainbows (ep434) Buñuel - Mansuetude - Drug Burn (ep401) Deaf Club - We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness - Nihilism For Dummies (Ep432, Ep442) Vile Bees - Joy Coughs - Anime Bodies Chat Pile and Hayden Pedigo - In the Earth Again - Demon Time We Contain Multitudes - Minako - D9 (ep431) Jolie Laide - Creatures - Something for the Thrill (ep424) Resurrectionists - Any Time You Make a Place for Them - Hey Man Cheer-Accident - Admission - Cold Comfort (ep430) FACS - Wish Defense - Wish Defense (ep417) Heet Deth - Bad Reading - King of Swords Cosmic Kitten - Cosmic Kitten - Hole In My Soul The Austerity Program - Bible Songs 2 - Lamentations 4:7-11 (Ep423) Sloan - Based on the Best Seller - Dream Destroyer Swami John Reis - Time to Let You Down - Fed to the Dogs Shiner - BELIEVEYOUME - Asleep In the Trunk Tropical Fuck Storm - Fairyland Codex - Dunning Kruger's Loser Cruiser Melvins - Thunderball - Victory of the Pyramids Lightning Swells Forever - Delirium - Daze Assertion - Basking in the Gaslight - Please Wake Up Listening playlist - apple music, spotify, youtube music Also, while listening to stuff... Conan put out a Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends record called The Way of the Neutron too. apple music, spotify, youtube music Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

The evolution of the Champs, including the Santa Cruz days and move to SF and Tim Green joining. Playing metal in an environment that didn't always support that. changing the name to C4AM95 for their "third record" and why that may have not been the smartest idea. Listing gear in the record jacket, Drag City, Changing to The Fucking Champs (based on a t-shirt), IV and Extra Man. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, Josh leaving and Phil Manley tagging in. Side projects and how the Champs kind of petered out. Tim also has a synth based electronic record out called Orange Magnet on bandcamp. and why a Fucking Champs reunion is pretty unlikely. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

It has been SEVEN YEARS since the mighty J.D Pinkus has been on Protonic Reversal. The Butthole Surfers documentary, recording with John Paul Jones (and getting him to swear off alcohol!), lack of credits in the BHS world and dipping out before the "big hit", high tech rednecks putting together the insane visuals in a pre-photoshop era. Playing with Helios Creed, singing in your proper range, space banjo, Double Live and the story of Kathleen the Sh*t lady, Tall Tall Trees and Ponder Machine, Grow a Pear, Union Synthesizers, Fungus Shui (and it being a TRUE solo record, sans dogs), Kramer. Songs v. Sound. Versions of songs and how they live after being written. Jackofficers and "Hick-hop", Hurdy Gurdy Man, word of mouth v. Internet, is P S Y the BHS version of Dark Star? Live at Leather Fly, The BHS book by James Burns. Breakaway bottles, Upcoming tour with Clutch and COC and SO MUCH MORE.Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Steven is back, after a 5 YEAR (!) break. Redd Kross has been very busy! Including releasing their latest (and best?) album The Redd album. Upcoming shows with the Hard Ons and Little Steven's Underground Garage CRUISE. The critic inside your head, staying present... the formation and career of OFF!, taking a 10 year break from touring... joining Melvins and adjusting to being a utility player and serving the music, as well as bringing the BIG ROCK! Dynamics with Jeff McDonald, vs. others, a 45 year spanning band! KISS, Neurotica, Sparks talk (like: playing in their live band!). The Redd Kross documentary featuring the SONG Born Innocent. and Spirit of '76. Hey, he's a busy guy, let's dive in. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

The legendary drummer returns! A long time coming, This is Rey's return to Protonic Reversal all the way from Episode 27! The Scratch Acid Box Set, and legacy. The "R" band and reactions to that band's name and the future of that music on streaming. Playing with Ministry, Big Boys. Didjits and Phantom Planet (!). What led Rey to try his hand at acting and how that worked out. String sections in punk rock songs and why Rey wish he had gotten to know Steve Albini better. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

It has been over 4 years since JP has been on protonic! And in that time Deaf Club has only thrived they have a new record We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness AND he's launched his own podcast called Cult and Culture. What else? Well, a lot actually. Lots of podcast talk, as well as Dead Cross and Dave Lombardo, Michael Crain and Retox, the Locust legacy, Head Wound City, the return of Swing Kids, Brian's love of Nirvana, keeping 31G alive as an independent label in 2025, the Oops tour and competitiveness in music, and amongst everything else...recreating Killing Joke's Extremities with Martin Atkins. It's a back and forth conversation and a good time as Conan squeezes in one last protonic reversal before tour JUST for you. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Nuzzle was a high energy indie rock band from Santa Cruz, adjacent to the Gravity Records and K/Kill Rock Stars west coast scenes of the 90s. Follow For Now, their 1995 record has been reissued by Solid Brass Records a remix and remaster! We get into the history of Nuzzle, Yo-Yo A Go-Go, Junk of Myth, and a little bit of the Dying Californian. As well as revisiting songs, remixing and remastering records without the pressure of immediately going on tour, bay area punk rock history, George Chen, oh yeah and Conan's first van being one of Nuzzle's old vans. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Season to Risk is a legendary band, formed in 1989. They predated the indie gold rush, put out two records on Columbia, toured hard with a "who's who" of 90s rock, Built their own studio (destroyed by a flash flood) and continued on making interesting and unique records. In 2025 they released 1-800-Meltdown, a collection of rare and unreleased songs, covers, experiments, demos and more. They are back and touring, to the delight of all. Also, revealed on the show: A reissue of In a Perfect World for record store day! All of this, the legendary van flip of 1997. The origin of Record Bar, Steve's venue in Kansas city. Sie Lieben Maschinen (with Josh Newton and Chris Bolig), Roman Numerals, Violenteer, a detailed accounting of the Season To Risk's history and a whole heck of a lot more. It has been a long time coming, dig in! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

The year is 2025 an the band Silkworm is BACK! This line-up includes early member Joel RL Phelps, who wrote and played on the first three records, but is not as known to people who knew SKWM as a three piece. After the tragic death of drummer Michael Dahlquist in 2005 Silkworm as a band was no more. So let's hear about what these shows entail, how they came about and how it all fits together, shall we? Couldn't You Wait documentary, legacy of the band, growing as musicians, muscle memory, Missoula to Seattle to Chicago, the eras and what songs to play, a quick rundown of the selected Silkworm discography. etc. Tim has been on the show a few times (including a song-by-song deep dive on Firewater) and is always wonderful. In 2025 Silkworm has reformed with original member Joel RL Phelps and new member Jeff Panall. Permanently? We shall see. Tim Midyett returns to talk all about it. SILKWORM! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

The Creative Asylum is Daniel House's brand new podcast, a 1:1 interview show exploring the minds & imaginations of people living authentic, creative lives. He may be new to podcasting, but Daniel House has the CV. You may recognize him from his old band Skin Yard with Jack Endino that slightly predate that whole 1990s gold rush. Nirvana opened for them, they had crossover membership with Soundgarden (Matt Cameron!) and put some awesome records. He also operated CZ Records for years, home of the Deep Six comp and later putting out records by the Gits, Silkworm, Built to Spill, 7 Year Bitch and many others. We walk through all of that as well as potential future recording plans and many other things. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

The legendary Tom Flynn has a new 7" out DO THE THUD, Dale Crover plays drums on it and the singer for Star Pimp does some vocals. Awesome! We talk about how weirdly timeless The Money Will Roll In by Fang has become, covered by so many famous bands. The foundation of Boner records and operating a record label long before the internet. Meeting Melvins and Steel Pole Bath Tub and then putting their records out. The LYSOL lawsuit, Antler Family, DUH, Suboptics, Star Pimp and FANG! Tom is a unique guitar player and foundational guy in weird and iconoclastic music. Take a listen! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Yowie has been around for a long time. How long? Well their 4th record just came out Taking Umbrage, but they started when Bill Clinton was President. Every Yowie release has had a member leave the band and this one is no different. Defenestrator is now the only original member, and this was recorded without much playing together at all. In fact, ANY of it... yet Taking Umbrage is also one of their best one yet? Learn how Reign in Blood and Dave Lombardo are so important to the Yowie story. How and when Europe "got it". Throwing conventional music standards out the window... Whether Yowie is or is not prog, finding Skin Graft and also the story of the arresting album cover for the new one. All this and so much more! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Dazzling Killmen are back in 2025. What an incredible thing to have the band that released the mighty and influential Face of Collapse playing live shows once again. This episode has a focus on their enigmatic, intense and powerful drummer, who started drums young playing in drum line, and had a whole post DK career with the wonderful Laddio Bolocko. AKA: The band that Mars Volta really wanted to be. Speaking of Mars Volta did you know that Blake played in that band? Twice, actually so stay tuned for all that as well as a Dazzling Kilmen early days and deep dive and the future for that reunited band. Certainly not something that could have been predicted when singer and guitarist Nick Sakes came on last. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

There's a new band they are called HLLLYH and they have a record called Uruburu. But it also the Mae Shi. Kind of... wait, what? Song by song breakdown of this wonderful record as well as the origin story of this new band, how the record came to pass and another look at the very interesting history of the band that was known as The Mae Shi. Jeff Byron has been on the show, now let's talk to brother Tim! Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.

Nina is back! And with a new record only available on bandcamp. Songs for a World of Trouble isn't just an awesome record, you can't get it on the other streamers. However, you CAN purchase it direct from the artist. Dedicated to the late, great Steve Albini it is a grand experiment and a worthy entry into Nina's discography, it comes with a digital book as well. Song-by-song breakdown of that ensues in this conversation, as well as at length discussions at the state of being an indie musician in a walled garden streaming society and lots more. Updates from the very recent Jolie Laide tour and tons more. Protonic Reversal is on Bluesky, Instagram, Threads, X/Twitter, Facebook and even TikTok. Join us there. Also follow the show on Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Youtube if you use those services.