Work without Borders 跨越职场边界：凯文与小花北美视角

In this episode, we welcome a unique titan of the marketing creative world, Rob Campbell, the Chief Strategy Officer who's not just another executive. With a career spanning numerous renowned global creative agencies, different industries and four continents, he embodies the essence of 'Work Without Borders', having fearlessly navigated diverse executive roles across various countries. Join us as he shares his extraordinary journey. Tune in to hear his story and gain invaluable wisdom from a true global strategist. 2:13 Guest introduction 20:50 Advice for People who want to move to another country but are afraid of change? 31:00 How did you manage to get this current career without a lot of planning? 42:50 How much planning do you need in your life? Would planning too much make you miss out on potential other opportunities? 47:00 Keep open communications, even about layoffs. 52:00 How to conquer imposter syndrome even when you have achieved a lot? 55:00 Why did Richard Branson call you an "asshole"?

Join us in an enriching conversation with a distinguished financial professional, Vincent Lau who holds both CFA and CPA designations, and boasts a rich career in the financial epicenters of London and New York. Uncover the strategies, challenges, and triumphs that come with navigating the dynamic landscapes of global finance! Thanks for tuning in! And you are welcome to join our Slack community bvvf.short.gy.

过去这个周末Open AI公司CEO夺权事件不停地反转令人惊讶，这场大戏双方到底是担心AI的非营利性及道德安全发展，还是因为公司盈利模式之间和道德之间的冲突？我们再次邀请到AI领域的技术专家Indigo，与大家分享生成式AI在发展道路上所面临的伦理冲突。作为普通人，我们应该如何在享受GenAI带来的便利同时保护个人隐私？期待Indigo的分享能够启发听众。同时，凯文和小花将继续分享他们在北美职场的深刻见解。 2:37 AI 诈骗有段高明，普通人的隐私怎么得到保护？ 6:50 AI 诈骗，我们可以怎么预防？ 8:35 生成式 AI 生成的图片或文本， 版权是谁的？ 10:21 AI 可以判断AI侵权？ 13:30 生成式 AI 为什么会有价值观？ 17:20 生成式 AI 也会越狱了？ 20:00 AI 有动机吗？ 24:00 AI 有意识吗？ 25:35 AI 会先于人类了解人类吗？ 32:44 普通人使用生成式 AI 的注意事项

在这一集中，我们将探讨一个备受关注的话题：如何巧妙地与老板谈论升职加薪。凯文和小花将分享他们在北美职场的深刻见解，告诉你何时何地以及如何在职场敏感话题上与老板进行建设性的对话。无论你是初入职场还是经验丰富的职场人，这一集都将为你提供宝贵的职业建议。感谢您的收听，让我们一起提升职场智慧，追求更好的职业发展！

这一集我们邀请了硅谷芯片行业的顶尖专家，揭开了在硅谷工作不为人知的一面。他与我们分享了一场激烈的硅谷大厂人才争夺战的精彩故事。从英特特到英达达，让我们一同追随硅谷大佬的步伐，深入探索芯片行业的奥秘。凯文和小花将为大家呈现关于这个领域的北美职场深刻见解。 1:45 为什么去美国工作？ 5:00 怎么找到第一份工作？ 17:55 如何在硅谷跳槽？ 22:00 谈offer翻车了 33:20 为何离开英达达？ 47:14 加拿大华人去美国工作的优势 52:45 进入芯片领域的建议

Welcome to our second English episode! Get ready for an inspiring TED Talk guest who will explore how to happily adjust our behavior to make a positive impact on climate change. Discover academic career opportunities, industry insights, and hear from our esteemed guest, Dr. Jiaying Zhao. Holding a Ph.D. from an Ivy League university and currently a professor at the University of British Columbia, JZ will share her incredible journey. Thanks for tuning in! -1:03 Guest Intro -4:04 Pursuing Ph.D. in an Ivy League school -6:30 Number 1 condition to achieve Ph.D. -11:19 Going from the US to Canada -13:45 Being a professor is like running a start-up -19:24 Biggest challenge to pursue a PhD as a Chinese? -24:20 TED Talk - What does Feng Shui have to do with your fridge -28:12 New Leaf Project - direct cash transfer to homeless -39:10 Where to take the New Leaf project next Check out her TED talk here. Check out her latest paper published.

在这一集中，我们探讨了人工智能对我们所处行业的影响以及职业发展的影响。凯文和小花带来了北美职场对这方面的深度洞察，分享了关于AI的应用和对职场未来的展望。我们将讨论如何适应和利用人工智能的发展，为你的职业生涯开辟新的机遇。感谢你的收听，欢迎留言与我们互动。

这一集是我们的创刊号！初来乍到，这一集我们简单介绍了各自的职场经历，并且与大家分享了我们为什么要做这个播客。 在未来的节目中，我们将分享一些职场经历，并以亲身的经历、独特的视角和不定期的嘉宾，探讨东西方职场异同，并谈论个人成长和职场发展话题。感谢你的收听，期待与你一起成长和探索！

本期我们请到了小花以前广告公司的同事，来聊聊她是如何经历了漫长的自觉最后选择成为一名催眠治疗师的。她不仅经历了痛苦的至暗时刻，也经历了很多觉醒的美好，每个人最终都会走到属于自己的道路上去，希望这一期 Tara 充满疗愈的声线和真诚的故事能够给到大家启发和平静。

最近，“裁员”几乎成了打工人最不想听到的两个字。年初某书的“乱杀”、前几天某麻的大刀阔斧，让职场人人心惶惶。AI 带来了前所未有的效率提升，但同时也让许多人开始担心：下一个，会不会是我？在这一期节目里，小花和凯文就聊了聊这股“裁员潮”背后的逻辑。我们讨论了为什么裁员往往和你的绩效关系不大，它和90年代的下岗潮有何不同，也分享了小花亲身经历裁员后的心路历程。面对裁员，有人选择焦虑，有人选择重启。我们想说，也许这并不只是失业，而是一场对人生支点的重新分配。在这样的时代背景下，最重要的可能不是“如何不被裁”，而是“被裁之后，你还剩下什么”。一颗红心，两手准备——工作要好好干，后路也要留好。希望这一期，能在动荡的职场环境里，带给你一点安定的力量。-0:45 裁员的大潮汹涌而来-5:00 裁员大概率跟你的绩效没有太大关系-5:30 这波大裁员和90年代的下岗潮有什么区别-7:45 人挪活，树挪死，挑战还是机遇？-10:20 一颗红心，两手准备，工作好好干，后路也留好-13:00 小花裁员亲身经历分享-18:30 丢掉工作过后应该干点什么？是随便先找一份工作还是认真准备下一个专业对口的面试-23:00 如今的经济大环境，心态回归理性，不能跟以前比较-30:00 世界说到底就是个大草台班子，战术上重视，战略上放松-35:20 一个人的生活要有很多支点，当一个支点垮塌了，还剩下其他很多支点-40:00 消费观也相应的需要调整，多给自己留条后路

WARNING: This episode contains discussions of sensitive subject matter, including sexual content and foul language, which may be disturbing to some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. This content is not suitable for minors.In this week’s episode, we invited our friend Shaun, who lives what might be one of the most unexpected double lives — an insurance strategist by day, and a go-go dancer by night. From boardrooms to the dance floor, Shaun shares how he first discovered his passion for dancing, and how he balances these two completely different worlds with confidence, humor, and a pair of high-heel boots.He opens up about what it’s really like behind the scenes of go-go dancing — from the pay (spoiler: it’s not as glamorous as you think), to how he integrates his Chinese heritage into his performances. We also talked about the mental side of it: managing self-image, overcoming the fear of “what will people think,” and finding the courage to express your authentic self — both at work and on stage.If you’ve ever wondered what it means to live boldly, chase your passion, or embrace all parts of who you are, this episode will definitely inspire you — and maybe even make you dance a little.-1:09 Guest Introduction on his main job-7:20 How did you find your passion and start acting on it as a Gogo dancer?-19:30 “I have found my nature in the high-heel boots”-21:55 How do you manage the two different personas?-25:00 Doing go-go in Vancouver actually does not make as much as you thought-28:00 Most of the go-go boys will have to get another job-32:40 I integrate Chinese culture into my gogo dancing -37:40 Have you ever struggled with the fear of “what will people think”?-42:55 Do you feel like you were looking for permission before you could get into dancing?-45:20 How do you stay fit to be performance-ready?-49:00 “Please be kind to yourself before trying to add more in your life”

在当代职场，似乎每个人都在寻找一个平衡点——卷得太狠容易燃尽，躺得太彻底又怕被淘汰。那有没有一种更清醒、更自洽的活法？于是，我们提出了一个新概念：“清醒地卷，自洽地躺”——也就是当代打工人的仰卧起坐哲学。在这一期节目中，小花和凯文聊了聊：面对不同的大环境，我们不能再用单一的价值观去绑架年轻人。清醒的卷，是知道自己为什么努力；自洽的躺，是明白什么时候该停下。我们还从《甄嬛传》中的安陵容聊到现代职场人的焦虑，从“梭哈人生”聊到如何控制期待与欲望——毕竟，一夜暴富的概率越来越小，但保持学习、照顾健康的意义却越来越大。最后，我们也讨论了一个终极问题：在一个低欲望的时代，我们该如何不丧？也许答案就是——留一点时间给自己，保留一点热情给生活。希望这一期，能帮你找到属于自己的节奏，既不盲目内耗，也不轻易躺平。Time Mark:-0:50 清醒地卷和自洽地躺-3:09 到底应该梭哈吗？-4:30 不同的大环境下，不能用单一的价值观绑架年轻人-7:40 所有的痛苦都来源于比较-13:00 盲目地卷的代表人物——安陵容-15:00 保持学习，并且控制期待，一夜暴富越来越难-22:00 低欲望的环境，你应该怎么办？-30:00 梭哈和背水一战有什么区别？-35:30 控制自己的欲望，缩减开支-39:24 留充沛的时间给自己的健康

你是否也曾梦想过，穿着笔挺的西装，踩着高跟鞋，手里拎着公文包，在都市金融中心的早晨人流中匆匆奔走？那一度是很多人心里关于“精致职场”的集体幻想。但如今，这样的场景似乎正在慢慢消失。在这一期节目里，小花和凯文带你从回忆走进现实：从“黄金外企”的套装与星巴克，到今天办公室里的情绪摆件、远程办公的睡裤文化。我们聊到“精致”的褪色背后，既有经济环境的变化，也有代际价值观的分裂。80后追求“看起来成功”，而90/00后更在乎“活得舒服、干得有意义”。最后，我们也一起探讨了未来的职场走向：在AI逐渐成为新型同事的时代，精致也许不再是表演，而是更个性化的选择。我们告别的不仅是一双高跟鞋，更是一个时代的幻梦；迎来的，是一个更真实、更复杂，却也更有潜力的职场未来。-1:55 精致白领状态好像不复存在了-3:14 小时候羡慕在机场休息室用电脑的精致打工人-7:10 中产的新消费习惯-10:24 大家的审美也与时俱进，不会用特定的穿着模版来judge你-11:30 以前穿着是成功的入场券？-17:00 职场人的核心诉求是不是变了？怎么舒服怎么来-19:00 你向往的成功是什么样子的？-24:00 00后的新思维是不是更加通透了-31:00 之前的精致是乐在其中还是追求成功的一种画像？

In this week’s episode, we’re taking off - literally - into the world of aerospace with our guest, Mariana, a professional working in aerospace production. From her career beginnings to where she is today, Mariana shares how she first entered this field and whether working in aerospace was always part of her plan - or an unexpected turn in her journey.We dived into her unique experience as a woman in a traditionally male-dominated industry, discussing the challenges she has faced, the moments where she felt she had to prove herself, and the strategies she used to navigate those situations. Along the way, she highlights the mentors, communities, and personal habits that have shaped her path.For young women considering a career in STEM or anyone curious about aerospace, Mariana offers powerful advice, reflections, and a glimpse into what excites her most about the future of the industry. This episode is both inspiring and thought-provoking—whether you’re dreaming of working in tech, exploring career pivots, or simply want to hear how determination can carve out space in any industry.

上班摸鱼，谁还不会点？这一期，凯文和小花终于聊到了一个每个打工人都深有共鸣的主题——如何用 AI 摸鱼？从最经典的“带薪拉屎”到今天的“用 AI 自动写周报”，我们用轻松搞笑的方式回顾了那些年我们都用过的离谱摸鱼招式，同时也认真探讨了： -在 AI 帮你压缩工作量的同时，你有没有想过 工作之外 的可能性？ -AI 能写文档，但你得会提问题、会批判性修改，别沦为搬运工！ -如何通过摸鱼思维，反而拓宽你的职场边界？最后，当然少不了纯享环节：“AI 时代以前的荒谬摸鱼大赏”，保证让你边听边笑边感叹：原来我们真的挺有创意的。如果你今天正坐在格子间里刷播客，那这期就是为你量身打造的—— 摸鱼摸得有技术含量，才是新时代打工人的体面。-0:50 上班摸鱼好像是打工人的常态-2:02 除了带薪拉屎，现代人怎么用 AI 摸鱼？-4:25 用 AI 提高工作效率和用ai 摸鱼的边界在哪里？-5:24 AI 帮你摸鱼是帮你压缩工作量-10:10 工作量压缩过后我们可以干嘛？-11:20 用AI 生成的文档是可以溯源的，还是需要我们自己来调整-14:20 以前的工作是工作本身，现在的工作有一部也是调整 AI 的prompt-16:50 不要当 AI 的搬运工，找出ai可能出错的地方，然后拓宽我们的思考边界-17:30 要保留修改痕迹，展现批判性思维-18:10 不要老是让 AI 回答问题，要让 AI 帮你提问题-22:30 利用 AI 摸鱼的时候我们要尽量体现我们人类的价值-26:17 在有 AI 以前，荒谬的摸鱼大法分享 - 纯享版

这一期，我们请来了一位很酷的嘉宾——Soma Mo，加拿大的“野生”珠宝首饰设计师。她的设计作品张扬、奔放，充满生命力，和她本人一样鲜活。从一开始坚定“非艺术不搞”的理想主义，到降薪转行、远走他乡、背水一战踏入珠宝首饰设计行业，Soma 的职业之路没有标准答案，却充满热情与执着。她跟我们聊了很多关于坚持、关于美、也关于如何在加拿大这样的环境下从零开始，真正打开自己的局面。我们聊到了她如何“死缠烂打”地在云南拜师錾刻师傅、如何维持创作灵感、如何在海外作为艺术家生存下去。如果你正在探索自己的热爱，或者正在犹豫要不要All in某件事，这一期你会找到力量。Soma Mo 珠宝设计师网站：https://www.somamo.ca/-2:25 嘉宾自我介绍，“野生”首饰设计师-6:35 为什么那么坚定的一定要搞艺术，即使不是科班出身？-8:55 降薪转战去设计公司工作，只为了和艺术更沾边-10:55 怎么开始转战到珠宝设计？-14:30 艺术这条路很难，有过放弃的念头吗？-16:20 走上珠宝设计这条路，是背水一战-18:20 干就完了，没有什么好担忧的-21:00 在加拿大如何在首饰设计届打开局面？ （干货）-28:00 对美的感悟，是天赋异禀还是靠后天的努力？-33:35 在加拿大首饰设计界创业，吃过的亏和踩过的坑-35:20 给大家科普下什么是錾刻？它为什么独特-37:00 执着不放弃，“死缠烂打” 的拜师过程-42:55 作为全职艺术家（自由职业者），你的一天是怎么安排的？-48:00 给从事艺术的想要搬到国外的小伙伴的建议-49:20 作为艺术家，如何保持创作力？

这一期终于轮到我们久违的主播分享啦！在各自忙碌的生活节奏中，我们居然不约而同地读了同一本书——《金钱心理学》（The Psychology of Money）。这不是一本教你怎么赚钱的书，而是一本探讨我们和“钱”之间微妙关系的书。这期我们就从书中挑出几个最触动我们的章节，聊聊金钱、选择、欲望与内心的平静。我们讨论了财富和“有钱”的区别，为什么懂得适可而止比不断追求“更多”更难也更重要。社交媒体放大了我们的欲望，却也让我们忽视了自己的节奏。我们还聊到如何建立复利型的人生策略，坚持长期主义，以及怎样才能在混乱的消费世界中找到真正让自己感到快乐的事。我们不是在教理财，而是试图从心理学的角度重新理解“钱”在我们生活中的角色。如果你正在经历金钱焦虑，或对未来感到迷茫，这期可能会带给你一些新的视角。希望我们真诚的对谈能让你意识到：60分的人生也值得，有选择的自由本身就是一种财富。而“够了”，有时候真的比“更多”更重要。-02:00 我们为什么想要推荐这本书-05:20 很多年前花纸币会潜意识的让我们少花钱，而现在花钱很没有概念-07:45 总结提炼第一部分：财富和有钱到底有什么区别？-12:40 跟自己比，能有能力做自由的选择就是财富的象征-17:40 现在的社交媒体会潜意识的让我们把自己的生活和别人的生活做对比-22:30 总结提炼第二部分：很多人因为不知道什么时候“够了”，最终在贪婪中赔光了一切-25:15 复利的长期思维：坚持-31:40 了解自己，什么对自己最重要，什么让自己最开心-33:30 总结提炼第三部分：如何减少痛苦，让自己内心平静； 够了比更多更重要-37:15 消费带来的多巴胺刺激会持续多久-44:40 60分的人生也值得过，不要光盯着120分的生活

This Episode marks a very special milestone - our 100th episode! Over the past 99 episodes, we've invited professionals from all walks of life to share stories about their careers, transitions, and personal insights. But for our 100th episode, we wanted to do something different, lighthearted, and a little unexpected.So we invited Apollo, a bright and curious 10-year-old, to be our guest. Apollo lives in Washington State, loves hockey, math, science, and piano. As the first generation of AI Natives, he's already using AI tools to generate artwork and research pro athletes for fantasy sports. We asked him what he thinks about AI, what he imagines his future job might look like, and whether he’s more interested in becoming an NHL star, a NASA Engineer, or maybe both. Along the way, we also talked about his favourite books, role models, music, and what it’s like being a 10-year-old growing up in a tech-driven world.If you’ve ever wondered how the next generation sees AI, or you just want to celebrate this 100th episode milestone with us in a fun and refreshing way, this is the episode for you. Thank you for listening and growing with us - and here’s to the next 100!Time Mark:-1:05 Special guest introduction-4:00 Have you already experienced AI at school?-5:45 Explain AI in one sentence-9:10 How do you think AI will be involved in Hockey?-12:00 “I still want to have a real coach, even now I have a ChatGPT coach.”-13:45 Do you use an AI tool to analyze your hockey game-14:00 “I feel it is more competitive now that everyone has access to ChatGPT as their coach.”-16:20 How can AI play in the world of Math and Music?-17:30 Does your teacher allow you to use ChatGPT to help with school work?-20:00 Imagine you are 20 years old, what would you think your work day would look like?-23:20 Where would you spend most of your time if, in the future, going to the office means managing a bunch of AI?-25:40 How can AI help us throughout the day from morning to night?-27:45 “A robot referee on the ice would not be biased.”-30:30 “I would not go watch a hockey match that is played by AI robots because there will be no flights.”-32:40 To Parents: What surprised you most about how easily kids like Apollo use AI?-36:30 To Parents: Any rules you set at home?-38:40 If you could set one AI rule for the whole world, what would it be?-40:05 What would you tell another 10-year-old who wants to start using AI for projects?-41:15 Finish this sentence: ‘In the future, I hope AI helps us ________.

This week, we’re joined by Mandy, a CPA whose career journey has taken her from a bank teller job in Vancouver to the Big Four in Switzerland.After graduating from UBC, Mandy took a gap year to travel before embarking on a career in audit work in Vancouver. But her story didn’t stop there. One year into the pandemic, she packed her bags for Amsterdam and eventually landed in Switzerland, where she now works and lives.In this episode, Mandy shares her experiences navigating the challenges of moving across continents, adapting to different work cultures, and integrating into new communities — all while building a global career in accounting. We also talked about the evolving role of CPAs in today’s business world, from ESG to AI to remote work, and why money alone isn’t the reason she keeps going.Whether you’re curious about international careers, life in Europe, or making bold career moves, Mandy’s story is sure to inspire.-2:05 How does a bank teller in Vancouver end up working for the Big Four in Switzerland?-8:45 There are a lot of big companies that want to attract foreign workers to the Netherlands -10:40 Do you find it easy to just speak English at work?-15:10 The level of English is not too high in Switzerland, and they have three languages -19:50 Where did you get the courage and motivation to move to a new place?-24:00 Can you compare the working culture among Canada, Netherlands, and Switzerland? -33:50 People respect Lunch time in Europe-38:00 ChatGPT told me you need to join a sports club to meet new people-40:00 How do you see the role of CPAs evolving in today’s global business landscape, especially with things like ESG, AI, and remote work?-49:45 Money is not the motivation to keep me going, and I want to explore other things in life-51:55 For someone listening who dreams of working internationally, what’s your biggest piece of advice?

在本期节目中，我们邀请到了新能源行业的一线实战型专家 Forrest。他早年在中东多国参与国际项目，后来加入国内大型新能源企业，从海外市场打拼起步，机缘巧合接触 ESG（环境、社会与治理），短短几年已成行业翘楚。他是业内少数既懂海外业务，又懂可持续发展的专业人士。我们和 Forrest 聊了聊他如何从传统销售与市场岗位转型进入 ESG，又是如何一步步抓住机会，构建自己的职场竞争力。在这期节目里，你不仅能听到 ESG 到底是什么、它和 CSR（企业社会责任）/Sustainability 的区别，还能了解到 ESG 如何渗透企业运营，以及在国内推行 ESG 的挑战与机会。如果你正在思考如何转型、如何在新能源或可持续领域开拓自己的职业路径，或者想了解 ESG 如何成为未来全球商业竞争的新逻辑，这期节目或许会给你带来不一样的启发。-1:15 嘉宾自我介绍-4:05 上一份工作对于转行进入ESG 领域有什么帮助？-7:19 什么是ESG? 如何帮助我们行外人理解这个概念？-11:29 ESG、CSR和Sustainability 用一句话总结区别-12:05 ESG 的行业生态以及涉及的产业？-15:05 做ESG 是一项增加成本的业务，这是做ESG最大的挑战吗？-19:00 摸着石头过河做ESG，有什么挑战和机遇？-20:15 ESG 不止是一个报告，也不是一个部门的事情，它对一个公司来说应该是个什么样子的？-28:15 在国内推动ESG 有什么阻力？-36:30 国内很多企业做了很多ESG 的事情，但是不太会讲ESG 的故事-37:40 在这个行业里面的收获？有什么成就感？-41:30 如何转行进入的ESG？有什么样的思考-45:15 在国内做ESG 必备的素质和技能-51:25 给想进入ESG 领域的小伙伴的建议