Intuitive Self: IFS + Intuition + Spirituality with Natalie Deering

Have you ever considered that you might already be in a trance? In this episode, I sit down with Zarina Tariq, Integrated Clinical Hypnotherapist and Empowerment Coach based in Cincinnati, to explore hypnotherapy as a powerful bridge to healing, self-trust, and inner knowing. We talk about how many of us walk through life in unconscious “trance states” shaped by limiting beliefs, emotional wounds, and protective patterns — and how hypnotherapy can gently help us wake up. Zarina shares the history of hypnotherapy, what it actually is (and isn’t), and clears up common misconceptions about hypnosis. We explore the difference between everyday trance states and intentionally entering trance “at will” for healing and transformation. You’ll also hear: What a typical hypnotherapy session looks like How hypnotherapy helps access the subconscious mind How it supports breaking self-sabotaging patterns The similarities and differences between hypnotherapy and Internal Family Systems (IFS) The connection between hypnotherapy and chakras My personal experience working with Zarina   About Zarina Tariq: Zarina Tariq is an Integrated Clinical Hypnotherapist and Empowerment Coach based in Cincinnati. She helps individuals break free from limiting beliefs, emotional blocks, and self-sabotaging patterns by addressing root causes rather than surface-level symptoms. Blending hypnotherapy, energy work, and coaching, Zarina empowers her clients to unlock the vast potential of their subconscious minds, cultivate self-confidence, and step into their personal power with clarity and confidence. Connect with Zarina: Website: https://zarinatk11.wixsite.com/zarina Instagram: @zarinatariq11 Email: zarinatk11@gmail.com     ___________________________   Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

In this powerful and deeply validating conversation, I sit down with Jessica Tomich Sorci, LMFT, Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist and creator of the Mom Parts Method, to talk about something so many mothers silently carry: Mom parts. The anxious ones. The angry ones. The overwhelmed ones. The “I should be better at this” ones. And the truth that often feels radical: There are no bad mom parts. Jessica brings her expertise in Internal Family Systems and perinatal mental health to help us understand how motherhood activates powerful manager and firefighter parts—and how IFS offers a compassionate path forward. We Discuss: What “mom parts” are and why they make so much sense Common manager mom parts  Common firefighter mom parts  Why guilt and shame keep moms blended with their parts How IFS helps mothers unblend and move toward compassion instead of self-criticism The cultural burdens of motherhood and the impossible expectations placed on women How vulnerable parts can re-emerge as our children reach different developmental stages The concerning decline in maternal mental health—and why this isn’t about individual failure The “selfish vs. selfless” burden so many mothers carry internally Jessica’s Mom Part Cards for self-reflection and how to use them in daily life Her groundbreaking new book, When Good Moms Feel Bad About Jessica Tomich Sorci: Jessica Tomich Sorci, LMFT, is a Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist, IFSI Approved Clinical Consultant, Certified Perinatal Mental Health therapist, and creator of the Mom Parts Method. She has spent over 15 years helping mothers understand and befriend their parts through compassionate, accessible IFS language. Jessica trains clinicians through her Mothercentered certification program and supports moms through her membership community. Her new book When Good Moms Feel Bad: An Empowering Guide for Transforming Guilt, Anxiety and Anger into Compassion, Confidence and Connectedness is a transformative resource for mothers navigating guilt, anxiety, and anger. Connect with Jessica: Learn more: www.momparts.com Website: jessicasorci.com Instagram: @jessicatomichsorci Email: https://www.jessicatomichsorci.com/when-good-moms-feel-bad For Listeners: If you are a mother who has ever thought: “Why am I reacting like this?” “Why do I feel so much guilt?” “What’s wrong with me?” This episode is for you. And for therapists supporting mothers, this conversation offers language, compassion, and tools that can profoundly shift your work. __________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

In this episode, I’m joined by IFS therapist, consultant, and author Max Littman, LCSW, for a deeply meaningful conversation about his groundbreaking new book: Internal Family Systems Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out Max’s work centers the lived experiences of gay and queer men through an Internal Family Systems lens, offering a compassionate, culturally attuned resource for healing after the coming out process—when many parts, burdens, and relational dynamics can become activated in new ways. This episode is filled with tenderness, truth, and the powerful reminder that taking up space creates space—and that vulnerability can become an invitation for collective healing.   We Discuss: Why Max wrote a companion for AFTER coming out, rather than before The emotional and relational layers that can emerge in the years following coming out How cultural burdens within gay and queer communities can shape internal parts and protective strategies The importance of representation, visibility, and storytelling as a form of collective unburdening Max’s personal experience navigating identity, attachment, and healing after coming out The powerful role of media and relational narratives, including reflections on Heated Rivalry and the impact of seeing queer struggle and love portrayed honestly An IFS-informed practice "The Pool Party" for meeting and understanding different parts Max’s heartfelt message to gay and queer men seeking deeper connection, healing, and wholeness Max reminds us that healing doesn’t stop once someone comes out. In many ways, it’s only the beginning of a deeper internal journey—one that includes meeting the parts shaped by shame, longing, belonging, protection, and cultural expectation. This conversation offers a supportive and empowering path toward Self-leadership, authenticity, and relational healing.   About Max Littman: Max Littman, LCSW, is an IFS therapist, consultant, and writer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. His work focuses on attunement, attachment, cultural burdens, and relational and neurobiological understandings of trauma. He specializes in working with gay and queer men and provides mentorship to therapists in private practice. Max has served as a Program Assistant for IFS Level 1 and Somatic IFS Step 2 trainings. He is also the author of a widely read IFS blog exploring themes such as the weaponization of Self, the practice of attunement, and the importance of normalizing therapeutic missteps. His new book is the first IFS book to center gay and queer men: Internal Family Systems Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out   Links & Resources: Max’s Website: https://maxlittman.com/ Order the Book: https://a.co/d/6WA6iIO   Final Message: If you are a gay or queer man navigating identity, relationships, belonging, or the inner world that unfolds after coming out—this episode and Max’s book offer a compassionate companion for the journey. And for therapists, allies, and loved ones who want to better understand and support the gay and queer experience, this conversation is a powerful reminder of the importance of culturally attuned, representation-centered healing spaces.   _____________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

In today’s intuitive conversation, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS therapist Catherine Cope, a clinician and clairvoyant who beautifully bridges Internal Family Systems, somatic awareness, intuitive development, and spiritual presence. Catherine and I first met while serving as program assistants in an IFS Level 1 training, where a moment of vulnerability opened a doorway between us: I shared with the group that I’m clairvoyant… and Catherine shared that she is too. From there, an entire inner world of resonance opened. Together, we explore our early experiences with intuition and the spiritual realms, the parts of us that feared being seen—and being seen seeing—and how both of us gradually learned to trust our inner vision. Catherine also shares about her four years at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, where she trained in clairvoyance, grounding practices, energetic boundaries, and the art of inhabiting the human body as a conscious, intuitive being. This episode moves through the ways intuition naturally supports IFS therapy, how to fine-tune your inner instrument, and how to invite guidance—internal and spiritual—into the healing process. We also talk about the courage it takes to let intuitive gifts come forward, especially when parts hold fear, skepticism, or concern. This is a grounded, expansive conversation about intuition, psychic development, parts work, and learning to trust the deeper knowing inside each of us.   Topics We Cover Early life experiences sensing the spiritual realm and intuitive information Parts that feared being seen and being seen seeing Catherine’s four years of clairvoyant training at the Berkeley Psychic Institute Grounding cords, visualization, and why the body believes the pictures we see Tools for living fully in the human body and claiming it as your own Closing the eyes during IFS sessions to deepen connection, centering, and clarity What clairvoyance is—and a discussion of the other clairs Why everyone has intuitive access (and which clairs you naturally tune into) Understanding intuition as an instrument each of us tunes differently How to strengthen intuition through IFS, meditation, grounding, and embodiment Using intuitive information ethically and skillfully in IFS work Discerning what belongs to the client vs. what belongs to you Asking internal and external guides for support in session Addressing Protector Parts who fear intuition or visibility   About Catherine Cope, LCMHC Catherine Cope is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in New York and North Carolina with over 20 years of experience supporting individuals on their healing journeys. She is a Certified Internal Family Systems Therapist, an IFS Approved Clinical Consultant, a Certified EMDR Therapist, and Hakomi-trained, integrating somatic, trauma-informed, and mindfulness-based approaches into her work. Catherine’s clinical training is complemented by decades of contemplative and intuitive study. She spent four years at the Berkeley Psychic Institute and has worked for more than 30 years with intuitive counselor Christen McCormack, whose teachings continue to shape her meditative and intuitive practices. She is also married and the mother of two rapidly growing children, whose presence brings both unpredictability and deep love into her daily life—further enriching her understanding of human complexity and connection. Catherine is a grounded, attuned, and deeply intuitive therapist and guide.   Connect with Catherine Website: www.catherinecope.com IFS Institute: https://ifs-institute.com/about-us Hakomi Institute: https://hakomiinstitute.com/ Berkeley Psychic Institute: https://www.berkeleypsychic.com/ Christen McCormack: https://www.christenmccormack.com/   ______________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

In today’s expansive conversation, I sit down with Danielle Carron, a therapist, spiritual guide, and mystic who bridges Internal Family Systems (IFS), Somatic Experiencing, meditation, and consciousness work. Danielle and I first met at the IFS conference and immediately bonded over our shared love of quantum physics, the mystery of time, and the sacred nature of healing. At 19 years old, Danielle survived a traumatic rock-climbing accident that initiated a profound Near Death Experience (NDE)—one that revealed timelessness, unconditional love, and the truth of who she really is beyond fear, identity, and the limits of the body. That experience became the foundation of her life’s mission: bringing the sacred into healing and helping others awaken through their pain. This episode explores how meditation can access the same expansive, transcendent states of consciousness Danielle touched in her NDE—states of nonlinear time, eternal connection, and pure Self-energy. We explore what becomes possible when parts soften back and give us space to experience our higher consciousness directly. This is a deep, beautiful conversation that bends time itself.   Topics We Cover How we met at the conference + shared love of quantum physics and time Danielle’s Near Death Experience at age 19 and how it transformed her life Linear vs. nonlinear time and why it matters for healing Meditation as a pathway to expansive, transcendent states of Self The timeless nature of Self and accessing Divine unconditional love Parts that fear transcendence and how to support them Letting go of survival-driven linear time The theme of unconditional love in NDEs and Self-energy Discussion of Danielle’s 45-minute meditation for nonlinear time My personal experience practicing her meditation Benefits of transcendent states + how present work impacts the past Recommendations for accessing higher consciousness through meditation “Who am I when my parts give me space?” About Danielle Carron, MS, MA, SEP, LPC Danielle has been working with clients in private practice for over 17 years. At age 19, she lived through a rock-climbing fall and a profound Near Death Experience that changed everything. It revealed her true identity beyond fear, beyond the body, and beyond linear time. Since then, Danielle has devoted her life to bridging psychology, embodiment, meditation, and the sacred. Her work integrates Internal Family Systems, Somatic Experiencing, spiritual practice, and consciousness studies. She guides clients into their wholeness—mind, body, and soul. She is a therapist, mystic, teacher, and companion for the full human experience.   Connect with Danielle Website: daniellecarron.com Contact: https://daniellecarron.com/contact/ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@daniellep.carronlpc3706   __________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What happens when the healing world of Internal Family Systems meets the imaginative art of puppetry? In this episode, I sit down with Mark Saltzman, LMP — a self-proclaimed puppet nerd, bodyworker, grief educator, and IFS practitioner — to explore how puppets can bring our inner parts to life in the therapy room and beyond. Mark and I chat about the serendipitous way we met at the IFS Conference, and how puppetry became a playful yet powerful tool for accessing the body’s wisdom and deep emotional truth.   We talk about: - The benefits of using puppets to externalize and connect with parts - How embodiment and play foster safety and Self-energy - Why there are no bad puppets (or parts!) - Using puppets for direct access, exile work, and legacy burdens - How you can start using puppets on your own for part connection This episode is equal parts (pun intended) creative, curious, and compassionate — reminding us that healing doesn’t have to be so serious all the time. Sometimes, play opens the deepest doors.   About Mark Saltzman, LMP: Mark Saltzman is a Licensed Massage Practitioner with over 30 years of experience, trained at Bastyr University’s Bellevue Massage School. His work blends therapeutic bodywork, somatic IFS, and creative expression to help clients reconnect with their inner world through the body. A Level 2 IFS practitioner and certified Grief Educator, Mark’s approach integrates touch, presence, and imagination — guiding clients to meet their parts with curiosity and compassion. He’s also the founder of Kiwuppet Studios, where he designs and performs puppets that bring emotional worlds to life.   Connect with Mark: Email: mark@kiwuppet.com | mark@sotetherapies.com Websites: www.kiwuppet.com | www.sotetherapies.com   _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

Fresh from the 2025 IFS Conference and in celebration of the podcast's 100th episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS enthusiast, Tammy Sollenberger, for a lively and heartfelt debrief. In true synchronicity, we somehow kept signing up for the same seminars—without ever comparing notes beforehand. We talk about our parts, our paths, and maybe a touch of destiny. Tammy opens up about what it’s like to be an “IFS celebrity” (yes, we said it!) and the part of her that found it difficult to fully surrender as a participant in sessions while being so publicly known in the community. I share about my socially anxious parts and how they showed up throughout the conference, and together we explore how our systems reacted to the intensity, the beauty, and the vulnerability of being surrounded by hundreds of other parts and protectors in one big IFS field. I also share some clairvoyant messages that came through for both of us — intuitive nudges about healing, alignment, and the unexpected ways our friendship continues to unfold inside and outside the IFS community. This episode is a blend of reflection, laughter, emotional honesty, and gentle self-discovery — just what you’d expect from two friends who speak IFS fluently and love exploring the edges between psychology and soul.   What We Talk About How we kept accidentally attending all the same IFS conference seminars Tammy’s experience of being an “IFS celebrity” and the protector that kept her from full vulnerability as a participant My socially anxious parts and how they showed up in crowded conference spaces The parts of us that got activated during the conference — and how we worked with them Our individual experiences as presenters Tammy’s real-time vulnerability: sharing about her romantic breakup in her presentation and how her system responded Clairvoyant messages and intuitive insights that came through for both of us Takeaways, integration, and how the IFS model continues to deepen our friendships and inner awareness   About Tammy Sollenberger Tammy Sollenberger is an author, podcaster, and psychotherapist. She’s a Certified IFS Therapist and Consultant who loves helping people new to IFS discover their Authentic Self. Tammy co-authored a chapter on the Enneagram and IFS with Joan Ryan in the book Altogether Us: Integrating the IFS Model with Key Modalities, Communities, and Trends. She’s also the author of The One Inside: Thirty Days to Your Authentic Self, and the host and producer of the popular weekly podcast, “The One Inside.”   Tammy has a part who always wishes she were reading on a sunny beach ☀️ Learn more about her work at tammysollenberger.com   ____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

In this episode, I sit down with one of my IFS mentors Chris Burris, LMFT, Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems (IFS) Institute, to explore one of the most challenging and misunderstood aspects of our inner world: the inner critic. Chris shares his personal journey with IFS and how the model offers a radical permission to approach ourselves—and our parts—with more love, kindness, and curiosity. Together, we discuss: Why people are more than the behavior of their parts The nature of inner critic parts and why pushing them away doesn’t work How cultural messages often teach us to fight or silence the inner critic, rather than befriend it Common “suck points” when working with critics in therapy The role of legacy burdens in shaping our inner critics What it means to carry the critical energy of others inside us The importance of following intuition in the healing process Practical exercises to begin befriending your inner critic on your own This conversation is both grounding and liberating, offering a compassionate reframe for anyone who struggles with self-judgment or harsh inner voices.   About Chris Burris: Chris Burris, M.Ed., LCMHCS, LMFT (he/him), is a Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems Institute, providing Level II and III trainings worldwide. He has been an IFS Therapist since 1999 and a practicing psychotherapist since 1987. With a background in marriage and family therapy and a mind-body approach, Chris has worked extensively with individuals, couples, families, and groups. He is the author of Creating Healing Circles: Using the Internal Family Systems Model in Facilitating Groups, and has been leading experiential group trainings since 2003 on topics such as Self-leadership, men’s work, rites of passage, sacred activism, healthy relationships, and performance enhancement. Chris has also trained in nature-based models through the Animus Valley Institute, School of Lost Borders, The Foundation for Shamanic Studies, and The Center for Conscious Eldering.   Resources: Internal Family Systems Institute: burriscounseling.com   ___________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*    

My guest today is Jenny Hayo (she/her)—teacher, guide, and practitioner of wisdom traditions for over 25 years—to explore the living, breathing experience of Self-energy and how it shapes our inner and outer worlds.   Together, we dive into: What it means to embody Self-energy instead of holding it as just an idea. The many ways people describe Self-energy, and how language can both help and limit us. A playful, unexpected moment when an otter appeared, bringing laughter into our conversation. What we are actually embodying when we talk about “being in Self.” The practice of interoception—tuning into the body’s signals and sensations. The difference between listening to the body and having an agenda for it. How Self can be both a deeply spiritual and beautifully ordinary experience. Ways to discover what your unique Self-energy feels like. The heart as a powerful portal into Self-energy. A simple practice Jenny shares for cultivating embodiment and accessing Self-energy in daily life. __________________________ About Jenny Hayo Jenny Hayo has practiced and taught in the wisdom traditions for over 25 years. She synthesizes her decades of consciousness studies, meditation, and embodiment-centered practices to support students along the path of awakening. Her work is informed by Hindu philosophy, classical yoga, tantric Buddhism, and various somatic modalities. Jenny is certified in Hakomi, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and as a Yoga Therapist. Her understanding of the subtle body—and the importance of our relationship with it—lies at the heart of her work. Jenny teaches public workshops, trainings, retreats, and offers individual coaching for students on the spiritual journey. She is deeply committed to creating a world of wakefulness and liberation for all. Connect with Jenny Hayo: 📞 Phone: 206.931.8992 📧 Email: jenny@jennyhayo.com 🌐 Website: www.jennyhayo.com   Tune in and join us as we explore how to embody Self-energy—not as a concept, but as a lived, heart-centered experience! __________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

In this episode I sit down with Heather Smith—Certified IFS therapist and founder of The Moxie School®—to explore the profound intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and psychedelic-assisted healing. Heather shares her deeply personal path into both IFS and psychedelics, sparked by a lifelong inquiry: How do people truly heal? Together, we dive into the ways psychedelic experiences can deepen parts work, the essential role of Self-energy in lasting transformation, and why healing doesn’t come from the medicine—but from within. _________________________ We Explore: Heather’s journey into IFS and expanded states of consciousness The deep synergy between IFS and psychedelics How MDMA can amplify Self-energy The power of witnessing parts in altered states Why preparation is non-negotiable before a medicine journey The consequences of skipping the prep and integration process The role of the IFS Self-led guide in enhancing psychedelic journeys What “integration” really means—and why it’s the completion, not the afterthought The myth that the medicine does the healing (hint: it’s your Self that does) Whether you’re a seasoned guide or curious about combining inner parts work with psychedelic tools, this episode is a must-listen. _______________________ About Heather Smith Heather Smith is a visionary in the field of psychedelic healing, uniquely bridging Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with expanded states of consciousness. A Certified IFS therapist (Levels 1–3) and frequent Program Assistant, Heather is the founder of The Moxie School®, where she trains facilitators in IFS-informed psychedelic support. Through immersive retreats and training programs, Heather empowers others to deepen their self-leadership, refine their facilitation skills, and embody the healing work at the deepest level. ___________________________ Resources & Links 🌐 Visit Heather’s work: www.moxieschool.com ✨ New Offering: How To Journey – An IFS-Informed, Self-Guided Experience Prepare, navigate, and integrate expanded states with over 20 hours of content—guided meditations, journaling prompts, and IFS teachings. 💫 Just $197 USD → Click here to purchase _________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What happens when Internal Family Systems meets the mystical? In this episode I’m joined once again by therapist, teacher, and spiritual guide Chris Hancock to explore Transpersonal Internal Family Systems (T-IFS)—a sacred weaving of parts work with direct connection to the Divine. Together, we explore how T-IFS opens portals to higher realms of healing, the many expressions of Divine love and light, and how spiritual beings—including Mother Mary and Isis—can participate in unburdenings and transformation. Chris also shares his process of spiritual awakening and the path that led him to co-create this multidimensional form of healing. I share my own powerful T-IFS session with Chris, including an emotional message received from Mother Mary that brought me to tears. This episode is a testament to what becomes possible when we listen deeply, surrender, and allow Love itself to lead the way. _______________________________ In this episode, we discuss: What is Transpersonal IFS and how it evolved The many expressions of the Divine and how they show up in healing How Chris integrates higher realms into unburdenings Stories from powerful T-IFS sessions, including guides, ancestors, and angelic presences Parts that block access to the Divine and how to gently be with them My personal experience with Mother Mary and Isis during a T-IFS session The emotional and sacred message Chris received from Mother Mary the day after our session. ______________________________ About Chris Hancock Chris Hancock, LCSW, ACMHP is a licensed therapist with over 26 years of experience and the heart behind Therapy Outside the Box, based in Nashville, TN. His journey through burnout, mystical awakening, and surrender to Divine guidance led him to develop a unique healing modality known as Transpersonal IFS (T-IFS)—a powerful blend of IFS, spiritual gnosis, and multidimensional light transmission. Chris works in direct relationship with Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine archetypes and is a devoted channel of Mother Mary, offering deeply sacred healing experiences that are grounded in love, unity, and soul remembrance.   Connect with Chris: Website: www.therapyoutsidethebox.com Instagram: @therapyoutsidethebox Phone: 615.430.2778 ______________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What if our inner parts weren’t just fragments of the psyche—but vessels designed to receive divine love? My guests today are Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer, and Jonathan S. Rose—co-authors of the new book Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg. Together, we explore the playful spirit that brought this project to life and the profound insights that emerged at the intersection of IFS therapy and Swedenborgian spirituality. We discuss Swedenborg’s life and legacy, the idea of spiritual awakening as universally accessible, and how our parts—when burdened—can block access to divine inflow. The authors share how Swedenborg’s theology aligns with the IFS model, especially around the belief that healing comes from within, through dialogue, compassion, and connection to something greater. This episode is a heartfelt, curious, and spiritually charged invitation to see your inner world not as a problem to fix—but as a sacred system ready to be witnessed, healed, and loved. __________________________ Topics We Explore: ✨ The joy and creativity behind writing Opening the Inner World 📖 Who was Emanuel Swedenborg, and why do his teachings still matter? 💫 Spiritual awakenings and how we all have access to the Divine 🚪 Why parts can block that access—and how to gently open the door 💞 The soul as a vessel for divine inflow, and parts as vessels too 🗣 Why dialoguing with parts is essential—meditation alone isn’t enough 🏡 “The internal household” and learning to relate to each part with reverence 🌐 Porosity of the mind and the role of collective consciousness 🧩 How Swedenborg’s teachings and IFS therapy beautifully complement one another ______________________ About the Guests: Chelsea Rose Odhner is a lifelong student of Swedenborg’s teachings, an IFS practitioner and coach, and the current Vice President of Publishing at the Swedenborg Foundation. Her work weaves theology, embodiment, and healing into a compassionate, grounded practice of spiritual development. 🔗 https://locusofhealing.com   Robert Falconer is a globally respected IFS educator and author of Many Minds, One Self and The Others Within Us. His work explores the porous nature of the psyche and the sacredness of all parts—especially those that carry burdens from beyond the self. 🔗 http://robertfalconer.us   Jonathan S. Rose, Ph.D., is a renowned Swedenborgian scholar and translator. As the Series Editor of the New Century Edition of Swedenborg’s works, he’s dedicated his life to making Swedenborg’s ideas accessible and actionable for modern spiritual seekers. 🔗 https://swedenborg.com __________________________ Get the Book: Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg 📖 On Amazon 📖 From Swedenborg Foundation Upcoming Retreat: Chelsea is honored to be facilitating an in-person retreat hosted by the Swedenborg Foundation this summer: "Inflow: A Retreat for Embodying Swedenborg’s Ideas Through Internal Family Systems" 📍 August 8–10, 2025 at Harmony Mountain House in Phillipsburg, NJ 🧘‍♀️ Learn More & Register _________________________ This Episode is Sponsored by: Heart of Caldera IFS & Wellness:  "Cultivating wholehearted connection with Self, each other, and the natural world." Website: ifswellness.com Retreat Information: ifswellness.com/ifs-retreats  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/heartofcalderaIFS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heart_of_caldera_ifs/   ____________________________   Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention? In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence. Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who’s awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them. Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest. _____________________________ We Explore: 🌙 Katie’s personal experience with insomnia and burnout 🧠 The “Just Ask” principle in IFS: Who’s awake? What do you need? 🔦 Why certain protector parts become active at night 🌀 A theory on nightmares and sleep as a consent violation for some parts ⚖️ Common polarizations around sleep (e.g., “I need to sleep” vs. “I need to stay alert”) 🧘 Techniques for grounding before sleep and during the day 🧩 How to be with insomnia parts instead of battling them 🌿 The power of observing and noticing what’s there—without trying to change it ___________________________ About Katie LaCelle: Katie LaCelle is a somatic IFS and leadership coach who helps people reconnect with their body’s wisdom and uncover the internal leaders they already carry within. She specializes in working with high achievers, people pleasers, and caretakers—especially those navigating burnout or struggling with sleep. Katie regularly assists with IFS Institute trainings and is currently pursuing her Somatic Experiencing Practitioner certification. Her work blends deep nervous system support with compassionate parts work to create lasting, embodied change. ______________________________ Learn More & Connect with Katie: 🧘 IFS for Insomnia Course: cressanallc.com/about-insomnia-course 📸 Instagram: @cressanallc 🌐 Website: www.cressanallc.com Tune in for a gentle, eye-opening conversation on what it really means to rest—and how befriending our sleepless parts might be the first step. _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

What happens when a couple says “yes” to deep healing together—guided by MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and parts work? In this soulful and honest conversation, I’m joined by Steph and Craig, co-hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, to explore their transformative journeys with MDMA-assisted therapy through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, we talk about what it’s like to prepare for these powerful sessions, working with the parts that hold fear or doubt, and what can unfold when you surrender to the healing process. Steph and Craig open up about their unique experiences—both as individuals and as a couple. Craig describes a peaceful, heart-opening session, while Steph shares a more challenging journey that offered deep insight and emotional release. We also discuss the phenomenon of “redo” experiences—moments when the body and psyche reprocess past events in a new, healing way. Whether you're curious about MDMA therapy, IFS, or simply how couples can grow together through conscious exploration, this episode offers powerful takeaways about trust, safety, and self-discovery. ______________________ Topics We Discuss: - The preparation process for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy - Working with parts that feel fear, resistance, or uncertainty - Steph and Craig’s individual MDMA journeys—peaceful vs. intense - “Redo” experiences that can arise in altered states of healing - The role of integration and meaning-making after the session - How MDMA therapy deepened their connection as a couple - Why emotional safety is foundational for psychedelic healing - IFS as a guiding framework before, during, and after sessions ________________________ About Steph & Craig: Steph and Craig are the hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, a podcast that explores healing, emotional growth, spirituality, and the beautiful messiness of being human. Through honest conversations, personal stories, and soulful insights, they help listeners feel seen, supported, and inspired on their own inner journeys. ________________________ Connect with Steph & Craig: 🌐 Website: stephandcraig.co 📺 YouTube: @stephandcraig 📘 Facebook: Steph and Craig 📸 Instagram: @steph.and.craig 🎵 TikTok: @stephandcraig 📰 Substack: Steph & Craig on Substack   🎧 Tune in for an honest, intimate look at what happens when healing gets real—and you choose to walk the path together. ____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

In this deeply personal episode, I sit down with my brother, Sam Deering, to explore the layered journey of identity—how it forms, evolves, fractures, and heals over a lifetime. Sam shares openly about his search for belonging through many identities. We dive into big questions like Who am I? and Where do I belong?, weaving in the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) to understand how parts of ourselves are shaped by survival, societal pressures, and the deep human need for connection. _________________________ We explore: What identity really means, and why it matters How society pressures us to exile parts of who we are The desperate human need for belonging and connection Sam’s identity journey How anger became a tool for survival and expression as a man Lessons the military taught him about values, boundaries, and self-trust Using creativity and boundaries to channel identity healthily How Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy sheds light on identity fragmentation and healing The power of acceptance, kindness, and making space for mistakes Why diversifying your identity is essential for resilience and wholeness Sam speaks with honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom about how belonging isn't something we find "out there"—it's something we reclaim inside ourselves, one part at a time. ________________________ About Sam Deering Sam Deering is a potter living in the hills of southern New Hampshire, working with one of humanity’s oldest mediums: clay.  After leaving the military and enrolling in a college pottery class on the GI Bill, Sam found a new path—one rooted in simplicity, creativity, and grounded living. He apprenticed under master potter Kevin Crowe at Tye River Pottery in Virginia, and today he creates beautiful, functional pieces that make everyday life feel a little calmer, a little richer, and a little more human. _______________________________ Connect with Sam & See His Work: 🌐 Spotted Horse Pottery on Etsy 📸 @spottedhorse_pottery on Instagram   Tune in now for a conversation that’s honest, soulful, and full of insight about belonging, becoming, and the courage it takes to live as your whole self. _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

What happens when you’ve had two open-heart surgeries before the age of 40, and you’re still fighting the healthcare system—every single day? In this powerful and deeply human conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Jacob Kendall, healthcare advocate and metagerontologist, to talk about what it means to advocate like hell—for yourself, your loved ones, and the millions of people navigating chronic illness and a broken healthcare system. ______________________ We explore: - Jacob’s personal experience of having multiple heart surgeries and becoming a caregiver - How his life led him to multi-dimensional healthcare advocacy - The harms and complexity of the U.S. healthcare and insurance system - The internal debate among mental health professionals about whether to accept insurance - The debate between private and socialized medicine - The importance of honest conversations with providers and why doctors don’t always have all the answers - Why Jacob believes self-advocacy, assertiveness, and agency are the most essential tools we have Jacob speaks with radical clarity and lived experience about the intentional confusion of insurance, the need to normalize chronic disease, and how healing isn’t just medical—it’s emotional, systemic, and deeply personal. ________________________ About Dr. Jacob Kendall Dr. Jacob Kendall advocates like hell for people living with chronic illness, pain, and disability. Having undergone two open-heart surgeries and served as a caregiver for multiple family members, Jacob brings deep insight into the realities of the U.S. healthcare system. A metagerontologist with a broad background in biology, social work, public health, and theology, he blends science and soul in his work. Jacob is also the founder of TheSmartPatient.com, where he supports patients in navigating complex health systems and reclaiming their power. He currently lives on Mobile Bay in Alabama with his wife, son, and daughter. _______________________ Connect with Jacob & Learn More: 🌐 TheSmartPatient.com 💼 Jacob on LinkedIn   Tune in now for a conversation that’s honest, courageous, and full of clarity on what it means to show up for your health—and push back when the system fails you!  _________________________   Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*      

What if your birth chart could help you find the parts of you longing to be witnessed? What if the stars weren’t about prediction—but about reflection? In this rich and expansive conversation, I’m joined by Sarah Temel, licensed trauma therapist, IFS practitioner, and founder of No Bad Charts, to explore the deeply supportive intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and evolutionary astrology. ____________________________ We dive into: 🌙 How astrology-informed IFS uses the birth chart as a fluid map of your soul’s lesson plan 🌙 How to use chart placements to identify trailheads, parts, legacy burdens, and Self-energy 🌙 The meaning of the twelve Houses and how they reflect different areas of life and parts of the psyche 🌙 Why no chart is a bad chart, and how astrology can be a tool for self-reflection, compassion, and curiosity 🌙 Reflective questions that help integrate astrology and IFS in personal and clinical work   This episode is an invitation to meet your system with more clarity and compassion, using the ancient language of the stars with the grounded wisdom of IFS. Whether you’re astrology-curious or already fluent, Sarah’s insight will deepen your appreciation for both modalities!   Plus, Sarah uses my birth chart as examples during the conversation and no surprise, my mind was BLOWN away by what she shares.  I'm so excited for you to listen in!   ________________________ ✨ Meet Our Guest: Sarah Temel, LCSW Sarah is an IFS-trained, licensed trauma therapist passionate about the intersection of human spirituality and healing from adversity. She is the founder of No Bad Charts, where she teaches others to integrate IFS-inspired astrology into clinical and personal work. Sarah is also an EMDRIA-certified therapist, a consultant-in-training, and is pursuing credentialing in drama therapy. Through her New Jersey-based private practice, Imagine Healing, and her spiritual consulting platform Window-Within.com, Sarah offers individual sessions, workshops, and semi-private groups for clinicians and seekers alike. _____________________________ 🔗 Connect with Sarah Temel 🌐 NoBadCharts.com 🌐 ImagineHealingTrauma.com 📸 Instagram: @nobadcharts 🌿 Window-Within.com   _____________________________   Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*    

Longing and heartache—two deeply human experiences that touch us all. In this conversation with Susan Poznyansky, LICSW (they/them), founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), we explore the tender terrain of what it means to long, ache, and hold space for the parts of us that carry these emotions.   Susan and I share a love for lakes—their stillness, their depth—and reflect on the parts of us that feel more cautious around the vastness of the ocean.  From this imagery, we dive into the three major themes of longing and heartache: 🌿 Longing for connection – the deep yearning to be seen and held. 🌿 Longing for choices not made – the what-ifs, the parallel paths that remain unexplored. 🌿 Grief for what we have had but no longer hold – the ache of change, transition, and loss.   Throughout our conversation, we bring an Internal Family Systems (IFS) lens to longing and heartache, exploring: 🌀 The parts of us connected to longing—how they show up and what they need. 🌀 Polarizations within our system—how internal conflicts influence the way we experience longing and heartache. 🌀 Ways to be with longing rather than trying to fix, numb, or push it away.   This episode is an invitation to sit with your longing, honor your heartache, and listen to the wisdom within both. Whether you resonate with deep-seated yearning, nostalgia, or grief, you are not alone in these experiences. ___________________________ About Susan Susan Poznyansky is a licensed clinical social worker and the founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), a social enterprise dedicated to holding space for individuals as they cultivate self-compassion and personal courage on their journey to living fully and authentically. Through HOC, Susan co-guides with people on their unique paths to wholeness in this precious life experience. Identifying as non-binary, queer, neurodivergent (ADHD), and a person living with a chronic illness, Susan brings a deeply personal and compassionate approach to their work. Originally from Brooklyn, NY, and the first generation of their family born in the U.S. to Ukrainian Jewish immigrants, Susan's love for nature was nurtured during summers spent in the Borscht Belt. Now residing on the breathtaking Olympic Peninsula, the ancestral land of the Skokomish people, Susan enjoys fishing, writing, swimming, hiking, mushroom foraging, watching Marvel movies, hammocking, and indulging in their favorite hobby: hurkle-durkling (a cozy state of lounging). Susan is also a proud member of Jewish Voice for Peace and continues to create spaces for reflection, healing, and transformation.   _______________________ Connect with Susan & Heart of Caldera 🌍 Website: ifswellness.com 📷 Instagram: @heart_of_caldera_ifs 📘 Facebook: Heart of Caldera IFS   💫 Explore Susan’s work, retreats, and offerings at Heart of Caldera—a space for deep healing, connection, and self-discovery. _______________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*  

What if the key to clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation was already within your body—waiting to be awakened? In this episode, I sit down with my long-time mentor and friend, Jessica Lichaa, a fascia and nervous system specialist, to explore the profound connection between fascia, stored energy, and nervous system regulation. We dive into the body’s role in healing, the impact of tension and unresolved energy, and how awakening the fascia can discharge stored trauma and restore balance. Jessica explains the difference between top-down vs. bottom-up processing, the significance of ventral vs. dorsal relaxation, and how we can work with fascia to shift from dysregulation to deep nervous system healing. To close the episode, Jessica guides us through a fascial awakening exercise designed to bring clarity, aliveness, and ventral relaxation, so you can experience this work firsthand. Whether you’re curious about somatic healing, looking for practical tools to regulate your nervous system, or just want to understand why fascia holds the key to transformation, this episode is packed with insights and embodiment practices you won’t want to miss! Topics Discussed: What is the body, really? How tension impacts the body and nervous system Fascia and its role in nervous system regulation The importance of fascial discharging and fascial awakening Top-down vs. bottom-up processing in healing How to invite fascial awakening & discharge into your practice Dorsal relaxation vs. ventral relaxation (and why it matters) Guided fascial awakening exercises for clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation About Jessica Lichaa: Jessica Lichaa is a fascia and nervous system specialist dedicated to helping people release stored traumas, energetic imprints, and hormonal residues trapped in the body’s tissues. Through her Fascia Awakening method, she bridges fascia intelligence, nervous system regulation, and consciousness to support deep healing and transformation. With over 16 years of experience in yoga, energy healing, and somatic work, Jessica guides others in rewiring their body-mind connection for greater resilience, empowerment, and conscious awakening. Currently based in San Jose, CA, she will be relocating to Portland, Oregon, in April 2025. Connect with Jessica: 🌎 Website: www.fasciaawakening.com 📷 Instagram: @fasciaawakening ___________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*    

What if creativity could become one of your most powerful tools for self-discovery and healing?  In this episode, I sit down with Lynn Motley, a licensed mental health therapist and Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, to explore the powerful intersection of Soul Collage® and parts work. We dive into how Soul Collage® serves as a creative and intuitive practice to externalize and connect with different parts of ourselves, fostering self-discovery, healing, and integration. Lynn shares the “hints” (not rules!) of Soul Collage®, how to use it to represent polarized parts, and how to dialogue with your cards for deeper insight. We also discuss how the suits of Soul Collage® parallel aspects of IFS, and how intuitive and directive card-making can support emotional and spiritual growth. Whether you're new to Soul Collage® or a seasoned creator, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration that will leave you eager to pick up scissors, glue, and images to start your own healing journey. _____________________________ Topics Discussed: What is Soul Collage® and how does it work? The “hints” (not rules!) for making Soul Collage cards Weaving Internal Family Systems (IFS) and parts work into Soul Collage Representing polarized parts in cards Dialoguing with your cards for deeper insight Externalizing parts through visual expression Intuitive vs. directive card-making approaches Understanding the suits of Soul Collage® and their parallels with IFS The power of using “I am one who…” as a reflection tool Creative ways to use your Soul Collage® deck for ongoing self-discovery ____________________________ About Lynn Motley: Lynn Motley, LCSW, is a licensed mental health therapist, IFS practitioner, and Soul Collage facilitator dedicated to helping individuals and couples find wholeness and well-being through psychotherapy, movement, embodied learning, and creative arts. She integrates Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Soul Collage® in her work, creating a non-pathologizing approach to self-discovery and healing. Lynn also teaches Radical Self-Care Yoga, facilitates monthly Soul Collage® gatherings, and leads workshops and retreats designed to foster personal transformation. She believes that life itself is a canvas for exploration, and that creativity and movement are powerful tools for deeper self-understanding. She lives in Lexington, KY, with her husband and enjoys hiking, mixed media art, Soul Collage, yoga, and dancing. _______________________________ Connect with Lynn Motley: 🌎 Website: www.lynnmotley.com 📧 Email: lynnmotleylcsw@gmail.com 📞 Phone: 859-948-5817 ___________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*