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The Stormwater World Podcast
Author: Ty Garmon
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After over twelve years in the stormwater industry, I feel like I’ve only scratched the surface. There is more to learn than ever! Whether you are brand new to the industry or a seasoned veteran, I’m sure you feel the same way. I’m talking to subject matter experts across the industry, so you don’t have to. My name is Ty Garmon, and I’ll be your host. Join me as we learn together about what is happening in the Stormwater World!
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Key Topics
Introduction and Guest Background
Ty introduces Dr. Jamie Schussler and her work at Oklahoma State University, including the mission of the Schussler Stormwater Lab.
IECA University Partners Program
Discussion of how the program connects students to industry, supports conference participation, and builds long-term careers in stormwater.
Career Path and Graduate Research Journey
Jamie walks through her undergraduate background, master’s research at Iowa State, and PhD work at Auburn University.
Research with Real World Impacts
Installation Changes and 12x Sediment Capture Improvement
Sediment Basin Research and Flocculants
Land Grant Mission and Hands-On Training
Use of Drones and Photogrammetry in Stormwater
EPA Stormwater Centers of Excellence and Grants
Introduction to the Great Plains Stormwater Center of Excellence and upcoming research initiatives.
Quotes
“What I am doing matters, because if a waddle can capture twelve times more sediment, that’s a whole lot less sediment getting into our waterways.” Dr. Jamie Schussler
“We’re pretty good at collecting data on the university side, and that’s where industry and research really fit together.” Dr. Jamie Schussler
“There is a lot of room for tech nerds in the stormwater world.” Dr. Jamie Schussler
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon talks with Dr. Jamie Schussler from the Schussler Stormwater Lab at Oklahoma State University about her path into stormwater research, the role universities play in advancing practical stormwater solutions, and the importance of connecting research with real-world implementation. Dr. Schussler shares how the IECA University Partners Program helped shape her career, discusses impactful research findings such as improving sediment control performance through better installation practices rather than new products, and explains how hands-on training events, land grant outreach, and LTAP programs help bridge gaps between academia, industry, and regulators. They also explore the use of drones and photogrammetry in stormwater inspection, and new opportunities created through EPA-funded Stormwater Centers of Excellence, highlighting a shared focus on relevant, implementable research that improves water quality and supports stormwater professionals across the country.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Jamie Schussler:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcschuss/
Email: jaime.schussler@okstate.edu
#GINNing Podcast: https://www.eng.auburn.edu/news/2021/07/ginning-podcast-jaime-schussler.html
LTAP: https://www.transportation.gov/grants/dot-navigator/local-technical-assistance-program-ltap
IECA University Partners Program: https://www.ieca.org/IECA/IECA/Membership/University_Partners.aspx
C4 Conference: https://water.okstate.edu/announcements/water-center-opportunities-announcements/2025_opportunities/construction-conference.html
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Time Stamps
00:01 Ty introduces Andy and his background in geology, hydrology, and stormwater compliance.
01:50 Andy describes his early career in soil and groundwater remediation and the path that led him into stormwater.
04:49 Andy explains why stormwater work is meaningful for him and how he helps facilities navigate regulatory complexity.
09:04 Third party lawsuits and the emotional and financial burden they place on businesses.
10:56 Which sectors are affected most: primarily industrial facilities in California.
14:15 Breakdown of the Clean Water Act, benchmark levels, and how ambiguous standards create vulnerability.
20:57 Discussion of outdated benchmark levels from a 1992 study.
27:57 Is this only a California issue? Why California sees the vast majority of lawsuits.
30:14 How to prepare clients, documentation, training, and meeting the permit to strengthen negotiation positions.
34:09 A case involving a backyard t-shirt maker and how even tiny businesses can be pulled into the permit.
37:05 The only time Andy has seen a lawsuit go away: a massive corporation threatened to fight back in court.
43:46 Guidance for consultants: contracts, communication, clear roles, and professional protections.
55:00 Closing remarks and encouragement for professionals to join the conversation.
Quotes
Andy Ellsmore
“It is a communal and societal challenge that we have. It involves a lot of different players with a lot of different perspectives.”
“The ambiguity in the Clean Water Act is really where a lot of this comes from.”
“There is no protection for a permittee. You could be sued every other day or twice a day by different groups.”
“Most clients want to be in compliance. Everybody cares about water quality.”
“You are putting a large target on your back by complying with the stormwater rules.”
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, Ty Garmon talks with licensed professional geologist Andy Ellsmore about the complex world of stormwater compliance and the growing impact of third party lawsuits on industrial facilities, particularly in California. Andy explains how ambiguous Clean Water Act standards, outdated benchmark levels, and limited regulatory enforcement create an environment where nonprofits fill the enforcement gap through 60 day notices and costly settlements. He shares real examples of businesses blindsided by litigation, the financial and emotional toll these actions create, and practical steps both facility owners and consultants can take to protect themselves. The conversation highlights the challenges facing stormwater professionals, the need for clearer regulatory guidance, and the importance of documentation, training, and maintaining clean facilities to reduce risk..
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Andy Ellsmore:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-ellsmore/
Email: andy@stormwater.pro
Website: https://www.stormwater.pro/ ; https://ellsmoreenv.com/
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Connect with Ty on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tygarmon/
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Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
02:59 The Formation and Purpose of NMSA
06:00 Advocacy for MS4s at the National Level
09:10 Challenges and Resources for Local MS4 Programs
12:01 Training and Support for MS4s
15:00 The Importance of National Presence for Local Issues
17:52 Membership Structure and Benefits
21:06 National Stormwater Day and Its Significance
32:06 Stormwater Awareness Initiatives
34:10 Celebrating Stormwater Professionals
36:05 Recognizing Stormwater Champions
38:03 Engaging the Community in Stormwater Awareness
39:55 Membership Importance in Stormwater Organizations
41:20 Emeritus Membership and Institutional Knowledge
44:10 Introduction to STEPP Program
49:07 The Value of the Stormwater Sector
53:32 Moving Stormwater to the Adult Table
Quotes
Ty Garmon (08:40): “Nobody cares about stormwater unless it’s coming in their house.”
Seth Brown (12:49): “We advocate as a 501c3 for our mission… to try to support MS4s… and make them more technically effective, more cost effective…”
Seth Brown (23:02): “we don’t want to have a bioretention facility become considered waters of the US.”
Seth Brown (47:xx): “can think of [STEP] as the consumer reports for stormwater infrastructure.”
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, Ty Garmon talks with Dr. Seth Brown, Executive Director of NMSA, about why the alliance formed to give MS4 programs a unified national voice, how it advocates on issues like PFAS liability and Waters of the U.S., and the practical tools it offers members. They cover NMSA’s low-cost training and tracking, the open MS4 resource library, and membership options that fit both Phase I and Phase II communities. Seth explains National Stormwater Day on November 16 and how it recognizes the launch of the MS4 program while offering a free webinar and updates from Centers of Excellence. They dig into STEP, NMSA’s third-party testing effort meant to deliver clear, apples-to-apples performance data for proprietary BMPs. The episode closes with a call for stormwater to move from reactive work to proactive leadership and to claim its seat at the table.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Seth Brown:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethbrownpe/
Email:
Website: https://ms4nmsa.org/; https://nationalstormwateralliance.org/nmsa-resources/
National Stormwater Day: https://nationalstormwateralliance.org/nmsa-resources/
Stormwater Testing and Evaluation for Products & Practices (STEPP) https://ms4nmsa.org/stepp/ or https://stormwatertesting.org
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Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Key Takeaways
Flexamat design: Concrete blocks with embedded geogrid over erosion control blankets. Designed to vegetate through 30 percent openings. Mowable surface when established.
Install made simple: Delivered in wide, custom-length rolls. Unroll with an excavator. Start at outlets with an 18-inch trench, toe-in the terminal edge, and place tails so flow pushes into the overlap.
Where it shines: Channels, slopes, shorelines, emergency spillways, riverbanks, WWTPs, drivable surfaces, airports, pipelines, landfills.
Cost vs riprap: Riprap often wins on first cost, but repeated failure and maintenance can flip lifecycle value in Flexamat’s favor.
Maintenance: Minimal after establishment. Mow if desired.
Quotes
Ron Geater: “My clients seem to prefer a material that’s a set it, forget it. You put it in, it works, you walk away.”
Ron Geater: “There is no maintenance. If you do not want a two-foot stand of grass, then mow it.”
Ron Geater: “All you need is a decent sized excavator to pick it up, place it, and use the bucket to unroll it.”
Host (Ty): “Go watch the excavator set the roll and just bump the bucket to let it glide. It is the best.”
Ron Geater: “Put ‘manufacturer’s rep on site at start of installation’ in the specs. If I am there, you are not going to have a failure.”
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, Ty Garmon interviews Ron Geater from Motz Enterprises to discuss Flexamat, a vegetated hard armor solution for erosion control. They explore the product's features, benefits, installation process, real-world applications, cost comparisons with traditional solutions, and best practices for maintenance and installation. Ron shares success stories and challenges faced in the field, emphasizing the importance of proper installation to avoid failures. The conversation highlights the innovative nature of Flexamat and its role in sustainable stormwater management.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Ron Geater:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-geater-1a188045/
Email: ron@flexamat.com
Website: https://www.flexamat.com/
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Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Key Points Discussed
00:00 Welcome, Guest intro, and session goals
“Today we’re gonna talk about achieving SWPPP success and really using sustainable BMPs to achieve results.” ~Joe Moore
05:10 What sustainability means per EPA
“To pursue sustainability is to create and maintain the conditions under which humans and nature can exist in productive harmony.” ~Joe Moore
08:02 Why stormwater was early to sustainability
10:00 Geotextiles 101 and microplastics concerns
14:59 USFWS 2022 findings on plastic netting and silt fence
18:01 Better specifications and installation details that matter
“Are we impacting the animals in a negative way? The answer is of course yes.” ~Joe Moore
23:33 Jobsite realities: straw wattles, wildlife, roadway safety
25:04 Five technologies to know: B-netting, Flexamat, FODS, GatorBox, permeable systems
“We really wanted to design one that could be left behind.” ~Joe Moore
33:43 Post-construction ideas: manage runoff where it falls
35:03 Global water context and why choices matter
40:00 Spec book gaps and a Virginia update example
44:01 FAQ: cost and whole-life value versus first cost
46:12 FAQ: regulatory adoption and landfill fate
“We gotta pivot and do it a little differently, or put a little bit more forethought.” ~Ty
51:10 Joe’s personal why and first-fish story
“I’m a clean water freak.” ~Joe Moore
“The first one of the trip always gets a kiss on the lips.” ~Joe Moore
In this episode, Stormwater World host Ty hosts Joe Moore of Siltworm and ECS to dig into practical sustainability for construction stormwater. Joe discusses what “sustainable” really means in stormwater practice, especially for SWPPP design that protects water, wildlife, and budgets over the full lifecycle. They unpack risks from polymer-based BMPs, including microplastics and wildlife entanglement, and highlight U.S. Fish and Wildlife guidance favoring loose-weave or natural-fiber blanket options. Joe walks through practical alternatives such as biodegradable perimeter controls, vegetated hard-armor like Flexamat, reusable entrance mats from FODS, and portable dewatering units like GatorBox, while stressing that long-term maintenance and risk often outweigh lower upfront costs. The conversation closes with data trends, why many spec books lag field reality, and Joe’s personal “why” for clean water.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Joe Moore:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joemoore6/
Email: jmoore@siltworm.com
Website: https://erosionconstructionsolutions.com/
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Check out The Stormwater World Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9hVXVJ5oXplf_V9XOPpR6A
Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Key Points Discussed
00:02 – Introduction: Ty introduces John and highlights his new book.
“John wrote an encyclopedia for stormwater. No, I’m just kidding. He wrote a book and we want to talk about that book.” – Ty Garmon
01:56 – Why Write a Book? John explains his motivation and how California’s credentialing requirements played a role.
04:20 – Credentials and Experience: John details his background, licensing, and the importance of underlying certifications.
11:17 – SWPPPs as Dot-to-Dot Drawings John compares writing SWPPPs to kindergarten dot-to-dot exercises.
“Each little thing we do on a job site when it comes to stormwater management isn’t a standalone event. They all interrelate, they all connect.” – John Teravskis
15:26 – The Donut Counter Analogy John explains how formulaic SWPPPs can overlook pollutants.
19:10 – Common Disconnects Discussion of static SWPPPs, vague specifications, and the importance of detail.
25:39 – Beyond California The book includes requirements for all 50 states.
29:01 – Resources and Templates John shares that the book comes with SWPPP templates and supporting reference tools.
33:23 – Re-Categorizing BMPs John introduces “raindrop BMPs,” “speed bump BMPs,” and others for easier understanding.
“Fast moving water is the enemy of erosion control. So we were very intentional about recategorizing these BMPs.” – John Teravskis
35:28 – The Maintenance Challenge Conversation about implementation and team buy-in.
“You’re talking about the biggest disconnect of them all. This is where most programs become disconnected.” – John Teravskis
40:55 – Who the Book is For: John explains that he wrote it with construction workers in mind, but it’s valuable for professionals across the stormwater field.
47:00 – Acknowledgments
John thanks his company and peer reviewers who helped shape the book.
49:32 – Dedication Ty reads the dedication from the book, emphasizing its purpose for those who want to understand the “whys and hows.”
50:47 – New App: GetStorm.io; John introduces an upcoming SWPPP-writing app designed to support stormwater professionals.
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, Ty welcomes back John Teravskis of WGR Southwest to talk about his new book, The Raindrop Connection. John shares the story behind writing the book and explains why connecting the “dots” of stormwater management is essential for effective SWPPP programs. He highlights the risks of formulaic approaches and the importance of collaborative SWPPPs. The conversation covers nationwide applicability and John’s upcoming SWPPP-writing app, offering stormwater professionals practical tools to strengthen compliance and field implementation.
The views expressed are those of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies, past, present, or future.
Connect with John Teravskis:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-teravskis-5aaa9339/
Stormwater Awareness Week on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/events/7198777181257240576/comments/
Website: https://www.stormwaterawareness.org/
Monthly Dirt newsletter: https://wgr-sw.com/lists/?p=subscribe&id=1
Book: https://amzn.to/4g7th7G
WGR Southwest: https://wgr-sw.com/
SWPPP Radio: https://swpppradio.org/
App: GetStorm.io
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tygarmon/
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The Stormwater World Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9hVXVJ5oXplf_V9XOPpR6A
Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Key Points Discussed
[00:02:00] Introduction to Jamie McCutchen and Rymar Waterworks
[00:05:00] Basics of Skimmer Basin Design
Jamie outlines the three fundamental principles: basin volume, dewatering time, and flow rate.
[00:08:00] State Standards for Sediment Basins
[00:13:00] Why Specifying Skimmer Flow Rates Matters
“If you just say ‘three-inch skimmer’ and don’t specify the flow rate, you might end up with one that flows half or double what you intended.” — Jamie McCutchen
[00:14:00] Free Skimmer Design Tools from Rymar
Jamie walks through their web-based tool to help engineers specify acceptable flow ranges and choose the right skimmer.
[00:21:00] Good vs. Bad Skimmer Installations
[00:23:00] Using Skimmers for Post-Construction
“If we’re pulling water from the surface during construction, which is cleaner, why not do that post-construction too?” — Jamie McCutchen
[00:28:00] Modeling Skimmers in HydroFlow
[00:32:00] Filtration-Based Water Quality Design
Jamie introduces a two-stage filtration skimmer system designed to handle flow up to the two-year storm event and tested to ASTM standards.
[00:38:00] Benefits of Skimmer + Filtration Systems
“You're treating even the smallest trickles, not just first flush volumes. And the skimmer makes filter maintenance much easier.” — Jamie McCutchen
[00:42:00] Volume-Based vs. Filtration-Based Design Comparison
[00:51:00] Summary of Results
“With the filtration skimmer system, you're reducing pond size, treating more runoff, and improving water quality.” — Jamie McCutchen
[00:53:00] The Marlee Float and Digital Sitebox
[01:00:00] The Origin of the Marlee Float
“My daughter Marlee was elbowing me all night and I couldn’t sleep. That’s when I thought of the skimmer design.” — Jamie McCutchen
In this episode of Stormwater World Live, host Ty speaks with Jamie McCutchen, P.E., founder of Rymar Waterworks, about the design and application of skimmers in stormwater drainage systems. Jamie explains the fundamentals of skimmer basin design for both construction and post-construction use, emphasizing the importance of flow rate specification and sharing examples from state guidelines. He introduces a new filtration-based design that improves water quality treatment by combining surface-level skimming with a two-stage filter, supported by ASTM-tested results. The discussion includes practical modeling steps using HydroFlow, tips on skimmer installation, and a comparison of filtration-based versus volume-based water quality designs. Jamie also shares the origin story behind the Marlee Float and highlights innovations like the Digital Sitebox for jobsite compliance.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Jamie McCutchen:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiemccutchen/
Website: https://rymarwaterworks.com/
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Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Stormwater World Episode 052: Company Culture, Sales Processes, AI & more! with Dan Strauss from Syman Erosion Control
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Key Points Discussed
[00:02:00] – Meet Dan Strauss
Ty introduces Dan.
[00:04:00] – Business in the Stormwater World
Dan discusses a gap in the industry:
“We’re really not talking about business. We’re not talking about why we’re all here: because we want to make money.” — Dan Strauss
[00:07:00] – Becoming Employee-Owned
Dan explains Syman’s growth:
“We went from having two people in the business and now we have about 85.” — Dan Strauss
[00:13:00] – Sales & Marketing in Technical Fields
Dan emphasizes the importance of outreach:
“You can’t just go to a conference and say, ‘cool, check this out.’” — Dan Strauss
“Best known beats best.” — Ty
[00:18:00] – Hiring Matrix & Growth Strategy
Dan on professionalizing operations:
“If you feel like you want to grow, you need help. We recently have come up with a hiring matrix.” — Dan Strauss
[00:24:00] – Maintaining Company Culture
Dan shares how they retain team morale:
“A lot of it has to do with autonomy. Here’s the tools you need to do your job, and then walk away.” — Dan Strauss
[00:29:00] – What Syman Erosion Control Does
Dan gives the overview:
“We design from the ground up.” — Dan Strauss
[00:32:00] – AI in Stormwater
Dan and Ty discuss how AI can enhance productivity.
[00:38:00] – Using AI to Train Teams
“How do we extrapolate that information out of someone’s head unless he’s sitting here with me training me?” — Dan Strauss
[00:46:00] – Technology, Drones & Inspection
Dan on evolving practices:
“They were using the AI software to identify BMPs. It is making us money.” — Dan Strauss
[00:50:00] – What’s Next for Syman
“Our next big thing is opening up our fourth location, that’s going to trigger our executive team to change a little bit.” — Dan Strauss
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, Ty interviews Dan Strauss, Business Development Manager at Syman Erosion Control. They explore the intersection of business development, company culture, and technology in the stormwater industry. Dan shares how Syman grew from two people to an employee-owned company with over 85 staff, highlighting the importance of hiring intentionally, maintaining a strong culture through autonomy and leadership, and using tools like AI to streamline training and operations. The conversation also touches on how the industry could benefit from more focus on business growth and marketing at conferences, and how AI is already reshaping how stormwater professionals access and apply information.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Dan Strauss:
Email: d.strauss@symaninc.com
Website: https://symancompany.com/
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Podcast Website: https://stormwaterworld.com
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Key Points Discussed
[00:02:00] Introduction
Ty introduces Dr. Kyla Wood as “the Wizard of Flocculent,” and she kicks off her technical presentation.
[00:04:00] Origins and Safety of PAM
Dr. Wood explains how polyacrylamides (PAMs) originated in mining and have been adapted for stormwater.
“What we really focus on is making sure we’re using high-quality products that have been toxicity tested” – Dr. Kyla Wood
[00:06:00] Why Use Flocculants?
Discussing why traditional BMPs often fall short in treating fine particles like silts and clays.
“Even when we do everything right, we can have a pretty high turbidity.” – Dr. Kyla Wood
[00:10:00] What Is Polyacrylamide (PAM)?
A deep dive into PAM’s uses, safety profile, and why anionic forms are preferred in passive treatment systems.
[00:14:00] How PAM Works: The Science of Flocculation
Explains the polymer chain reaction and visual examples of clear vs. untreated water.
“It kind of looks like a grain of sand, when it gets wet, it'll unwind.” – Dr. Kyla Wood
[00:17:00] Ensuring Safe Use: Product Selection and Certification
Key considerations: anionic charge, toxicity testing, and NSF certification.
[00:19:00] Fundamentals for Effective Use
Formulation, dosage, mixing time, and flock capture techniques.
“One polymer does not work on all soil and water.” – Dr. Kyla Wood
[00:27:00] Polymer-Enhanced BMPs
Use of flocculants in erosion control, sediment basins, and drain treatments.
[00:43:00] Enhanced Vegetation & Hydro Seeding
The role of PAM in plant growth and hydro seeding applications.
[00:45:00] Lesser-Known Uses: Demucking & Dust Control
Unique and practical applications of PAM for sediment removal and reducing dust.
“PAM offers a really great non-salt option.” – Dr. Kyla Wood
[00:51:00] Final Thoughts
Ty and Kyla wrap up the session with appreciation and a nod to upcoming experiments.
“Use us as a resource if you have any questions, that’s what we’re here for.” – Dr. Kyla Wood
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, Ty hosts Dr. Kyla Wood, Chief Science Officer at Applied Polymer Systems, for a technical deep dive into flocculants, specifically anionic polyacrylamide (PAM), and their role in stormwater management and erosion control. Dr. Wood explains how PAM works at the molecular level to bind fine particles like clay and metal, improving water clarity and enhancing traditional BMPs. She shares practical guidance on formulation, dosage, mixing, and flock capture, as well as real-world examples of polymer-enhanced BMPs, erosion control techniques, and innovative uses like demucking and dust suppression. The episode emphasizes environmental safety, regulatory compliance, and the importance of proper product selection and application.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Dr. Kyla Wood, PhD:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyla-iwinski-wood-phd-958890228/
Website: https://www.apsfloc.com/
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Key Points Discussed
00:00 – 03:40 | Opening and Introduction
• Ty warms up the crowd and introduces his background in stormwater and digital strategy.
05:21 – 07:49 | Gauging AI Use in the Room
• Ty surveys the audience’s experience with AI.
• Introduces the session goal: show tactical uses of AI, especially ChatGPT.
07:49 – 10:15 | Why Prompts Matter
• The better the input, the better the output.
• Uses stormwater inspection report examples to illustrate prompting quality.
Quote: "The quality of the answers you get from AI depends on the quality of the questions you ask. It's not the AI, it's you." – Ty Garmon
10:15 – 12:40 | Real-World Applications in Stormwater
• Use AI to: Write reports; Summarize PDFs; Simplify language for stakeholders; Create outreach content; Clarify technical information
Quote: "What if you could say, ‘Hey, could you summarize this and explain it back to me as a five-year-old?’" – Ty Garmon
12:40 – 14:38 | The New Capabilities of AI Tools
• ChatGPT now remembers conversations, acts like a second brain.
• Shares how shared accounts can confuse context.
14:38 – 17:50 | Prompting Principles
• Add detail
• Give it a role and audience
• Define the output format
• Ask for clarifying questions
• Iterate through conversation
Quote: "Tell it who it is. You're a stormwater expert, you're speaking to engineers." – Ty Garmon
17:50 – 21:35 | Fine-Tuning the AI’s Voice
• Use personality types to guide tone.
• Recommends 16personalities.com and using your own personality in prompts.
22:33 – 29:19 | Live Q&A and Data Privacy
• Audience questions around SWPPP support, privacy, and ethical use.
• Ty explains OpenAI’s privacy policy, toggling web access, and content citation tools.
Quote: “Never copy and paste anything that I get and assume it's rock solid... have AI double-check the other AI." – Ty Garmon
29:19 – End | AI-Generated Co-Presenter and Closing
• Demo of AI-generated Ty using HeyGen and Eleven Labs.
• QR code shared to access slides and software list.
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon shares his engaging and practical presentation at the Ohio Stormwater Conference where he explains how stormwater professionals can use AI, especially ChatGPT, to save time, improve communication, and streamline workflows. Emphasizing the importance of effective prompting, Ty shares real-world applications such as writing inspection reports, simplifying regulatory language, and creating outreach content. He encourages attendees to treat AI like a new employee by offering clear, detailed instructions to get better results. Ty also introduces tools for personalizing output using personality types like ISTJ. The session concludes with a thoughtful discussion on data privacy, ethical use, and a demo of an AI-generated co-presenter, leaving attendees with actionable insights and renewed confidence in the potential of AI.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
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Key Points Discussed
00:06 Ty introduces the first live-recorded episode and Reggie Korthals from OHM.
“You're such a rock star around here... this is the first time we've ever done an episode live.” – Ty Garmon
00:55 Reggie shares the early days of Indiana’s MS4 meeting and its “friendly competition” with Ohio’s.
“With guidance from EPA Region 5, I got this going.” – Reggie Korthals
02:19 Record Attendance & History of Growth
“This is 400 registered, the highest I've had in 17 years.” – Reggie Korthals
03:35 Ty reads a comprehensive bio of Reggie’s 25+ year career in stormwater.
06:30 Reggie recalls a formative moment with President John F. Kennedy.
“He came over and took my hand… and said, ‘Public service.’” – Reggie Korthals
08:41 She shares her role in founding the MS4 Partnership and stepping back after 17 years.
“This is my last one. I'm going to retire at 17 years.” – Reggie Korthals
11:04 Insight into Indiana’s expanding stormwater programs.
“400 is 94–96% of the permitted entities.” – Reggie Korthals
13:00 Advice for newer participants and elected officials.
15:02 Agriculture & Stormwater Intersections
“It was very educational, understanding each other's point of view.” – Ty Garmon
15:54 Potential for broader regional partnerships and legacy reflection.
“I'd love to see Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky do something together.” – Reggie Korthals
16:53 Final Thoughts: Communicating with Electeds. Reggie emphasizes education and messaging.
“Explain what you're doing for all your constituents.” – Reggie Korthals
18:45 How to make stormwater a public priority.
“We talk to each other a lot. How do we make stormwater cool enough to get the public interested?” – Ty Garmon
19:44 Closing Reflections
“Water doesn’t care where the MS4 ends or begins. The better we can work together as a team, the better water we can get.” – Reggie Korthals
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon sits down with Reggie Korthals, a seasoned environmental professional and founder of the Indiana MS4 Partnership, to reflect on her 25+ year career in stormwater management. Reggie shares how the MS4 Annual Meeting grew from county fairgrounds to a nationally recognized event, celebrates the record-setting 400 attendees this year, and announces her upcoming retirement after 17 years of leadership. From her early inspiration by President Kennedy to her commitment to mentoring the next generation, Reggie emphasizes the importance of collaboration, clear communication with elected officials, and ongoing public education to improve water quality. Her closing message is a reminder that "water doesn’t care where the MS4 ends or begins”—underscoring the need for unified action across communities.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Reggie Korthals:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reggie-korthals-mpa-ms4ceci-788a49160/
Indiana MS4 Partnership LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/indiana-ms4-partnership/posts/?feedView=all
Website: https://www.indianams4.org/
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Key Points Discussed
[00:03:00]
• Ty introduces Navy and Dan:
“Together they launched Kai Pono Solutions, combining their love for the ocean with serious business and engineering know-how.” – Ty Garmon
[00:05:00]
• Navy shares her entrepreneurial journey:
“I knew I had to do something I was passionate about. I wanted to do something around ocean conservation.” – Navy McKee
[00:07:00]
• Dan recalls his original stormwater design:
“Every single time, the streets were flooding. I always just thought, this is silly.” – Dan McKee
[00:10:00]
• Dan introduces Navy to stormwater:
“I broke out some old drawings I had, and we went for a walk opening manhole lids.” – Dan McKee
[00:12:00]
• What makes their solution different:
“Nobody is really doing what we're doing. We filter water at the curb gutter line, not inside the storm drain.” – Navy McKee
[00:16:00]
• Development timeline:
“The turbocharge happened in 2020. We’ve been doing testing, R&D, and manufacturing over the past five years.” – Navy McKee
[00:20:00]
• Branding and public engagement:
“We really want to make it different. We want to make stormwater cool.” – Navy McKee
[00:23:00]
• Product modularity and scale:
“They’re kind of like Legos for engineers. You can add as many of these basins as you want.” – Navy McKee
[00:27:00]
• Data-driven innovation:
“We want to help people understand flow rates, contaminants, and maintenance cycles.” – Navy McKee
[00:30:00]
• Emphasis on realistic maintenance:
“If you don’t maintain our device, it’s not going to flood your city.” – Navy McKee
[00:33:00]
• Call for connections and partnerships:
“We just want to be your friends and meet more people in the space.” – Navy McKee
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon is joined by Navy and Dan McKee, co-founders of Kai Pono Solutions, who share the story behind their innovative curbside stormwater filtration system designed to prevent clogging and flooding while delivering clean discharge water. What began as a long-shelved design by Dan evolved into a modern solution through Navy’s passion for ocean conservation and a startup-minded approach to stormwater. Together, they discuss the product’s unique features, including its modular design, ease of maintenance, and flexibility with filtration media, as well as their journey navigating regulatory hurdles, startup funding, and industry adoption. Their mission is clear: to build a cleaner, more accessible future for water quality, one storm drain at a time.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Navy McKee:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/navy-mckee/
Kai Pono LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kai-pono-solutions/
Kai Pono Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kaiponosolutions/?hl=en
Kai Pono Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Kai-Pono-Solutions/100063887362828/?_rdr
Email: navy@kaiponosolutions.com
Website: https://www.kaiponosolutions.com/
Video Link:
Connect with Dan McKee:
Email: navy@kaiponosolutions.com
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Key Points Discussed
00:01 – Opening + Guest Intros
Ty welcomes Joe and Amanda
Amanda’s role as MS4 coordinator in Porter County
Joe’s experience as a vendor and MS4 partner volunteer
“What we're going to talk about today is something near and dear to my heart—Indiana stormwater and MS4 programs.” – Ty
03:07 – Public & Private Sector Collaboration
Strong relationships between regulators and vendors
The MS4 Partnership bridges both sides
“It’s one of my favorite things about the organization—problem-solving with people across the industry.” – Joe
04:46 – Real-World Interaction Across Sectors
Amanda has consulted Joe directly on field issues
The value of practical cross-communication
“It helps to know there are passionate people on both sides working toward the same end.” – Amanda
06:29 – Conference History and Growth
Launched in 2007 with no funding
Now a statewide 501(c)(3) nonprofit
Volunteer-led board, annual growth in attendees
“I remember not having any revenue at all... and now we walk in with professional A/V teams and packed agendas.” – Joe
10:22 – Who Should Attend?
MS4s, consultants, local elected officials, engineers
Targets both newcomers and seasoned professionals
State education hour requirements attract regulars
“Whether you’re brand new or 30 years in, the sessions are designed to provide value.” – Amanda
13:32 – MCM-Focused Education
Goes beyond construction to cover all six MCMs
Regional successes and permit update discussions
“We don’t just focus on construction—this is about every MCM in the MS4 permit.” – Joe
15:34 – 2025 Agenda Preview
Theme inspired by EPA’s “Stormwater Never Travels Alone”
Morning sessions include national perspectives and regional case studies
Afternoon focuses on illicit discharge, construction, social media education
“We're trying to reduce pollutants and invest in our communities through stormwater practices.” – Amanda
20:00 – National Integration
National speakers like Luke Owen and Corey Rayburn
Cross-state discussions (Ohio River Basin, ORBA, SENCO)
“We don’t need to rewrite the script—we need to see what’s working elsewhere and bring it here.” – Joe
23:04 – Evolving Board & Mission
Board made up of working MS4 professionals
Passionate about real-world problem solving
Peer-to-peer program building and funding support
“We’re hearing directly from MS4s and feeding that back into the conference design.” – Amanda
25:26 – Support Beyond the Main Conference
Helping fund local and regional training initiatives
Support for Coastal Program, NYSWAG, and more
“This board is now capable of extending its reach well beyond one annual event.” – Joe
31:18 – IDEM Construction Workshop Day (May 12)
Separate IDEM-led workshop on inspections
Main annual meeting happens May 13
“If you want the latest from IDEM on inspections, that first day is where you need to be.” – Amanda
33:47 – Vendor and Networking Focus
Over 90 minutes built-in for vendor interaction
Vendors treated as educators and key partners
“There’s a lot of education in those vendor booths—this event values those conversations.” – Joe
Key Quotes
“One of my most favorite things about the entire organization is the ability… to problem solve with folks like Amanda.”– Joe Moore
“It helps to know there are passionate people on both sides of the coin working toward the same end.”– Amanda Vandenoever
“We don’t need to rewrite the script—we need to see what’s working elsewhere and bring it here.”– Joe Moore
“We're trying to reduce pollutants and invest in our communities through stormwater practices.”– Amanda Vandenoever
“There’s a lot of education in those vendor booths—this event values those conversations.”– Joe Moore
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon is joined by Amanda Vandenoever and Joe Moore to preview the 2025 Indiana MS4 Annual Meeting, taking place May 12–13 in Plainfield. They discuss the growth of the event from its grassroots beginnings in 2007 to a leading educational platform for stormwater professionals across Indiana. The conversation highlights the collaboration between regulators, consultants, and vendors, the comprehensive agenda covering all six MCMs, and the value of national perspectives being brought to a local stage. With sessions on green infrastructure, construction inspections, social media outreach, and more, the event promises to be both practical and inspiring for MS4 professionals.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Check out the Conference:
Indiana MS4 Annual Meeting: https://www.indianams4.org/2025-annual-meeting-ms4
Indiana MS4 Partnership LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/indiana-ms4-partnership/posts/?feedView=all
Connect with Joe Moore:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joemoore6/
Email: jmoore@siltworm.com
Website: https://erosionconstructionsolutions.com/
Connect with Amanda Vandenoever:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-vandenoever-594a28126/
Email: amanda.vandenoever@portercountyin.gov
Website: https://portercountystormwater.org/
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/portercountystormwatermanagement
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Key Points Discussed
[00:00:00]
• “Erosion control is like insurance. The thief who's going to come rob your house is that storm...” — Mark Myrowich
[00:02:00]
• Introduction to guest Mark Myrowich and his background in erosion control innovation.
• Creator of several industry firsts, including the hydraulic biotic soil amendment category.
[00:04:30]
• What is Ditch 2.0? Reimagining the ditch as more than a drainage channel.
• “Let’s not just make it a conveyance of water… what else can we build into a ditch?” — Mark Myrowich
[00:08:00]
• Building soils that retain water and support long-term vegetation health.
• “You’re not just protecting structure—you’re protecting value.”
[00:10:30]
• “How much carbon can we store in a ditch, and should we be designing infrastructure with that in mind?” — Mark Myrowich
[00:12:30]
• Origins of biotic soil amendments from Northern Canada’s moss-based ecosystems.
• Using hydroseeding to deliver life directly into poor soils.
[00:16:00]
• Challenging the "we’ve always done it that way" mentality.
• Cost comparisons between traditional topsoil hauling and using biotic amendments.
[00:18:00]
• “The cost of what you want to spend on erosion control should be proportionate to what you're trying to protect.” — Mark Myrowich
[00:25:30]
• Understanding plant growth basics: food, air, light, and temperature—not necessarily soil.
[00:27:30]
• “Mother Nature takes 50 to 100 years… we can do it in weeks.” — Mark Myrowich
• Mimicking natural processes for faster soil health and vegetation success.
[00:30:00]
• The story behind industrial hemp as an alternative to coconut fiber in erosion control.
• Hemp as a sustainable, North American-grown material for erosion blankets.
[00:32:00]
• Mark’s upcoming innovation: a 100% natural, netless, stapleless hemp blanket.
[00:34:00]
• The Rifle Staple Gun: Designed for contractors who want speed and comfort on the job.
• Also used in landscaping, farming, and film production.
[00:35:30]
• Community connection: Facebook group “Hydroseeding/Erosion Control Professionals” with over 4,000 members.
[00:37:30]
• Final thoughts: “Think quantum, not linear. You're not just building ditches, you're building the future.” — Mark Myrowich
Key Quotes
“Erosion control is like insurance. The thief who's going to come rob your house is that storm—and you don’t know when he’s going to hit, or how hard.” ~ Mark Myrowich
“Let’s not just make it a conveyance of water. What else can we do? What else can we build into a ditch to provide more benefit?” ~ Mark Myrowich
“If we can hold water in the soil, we can reduce downstream flooding, grow stronger vegetation, and even store carbon. That’s Ditch 2.0.” ~ Mark Myrowich
“Mother Nature takes 50 to 100 years to build healthy soil. We can now do that in weeks by mimicking her biology.” ~ Mark Myrowich
“If you're young in this industry, don't think everything's been invented. Think quantum, not linear—you're not just building ditches, you're building the future.” ~ Mark Myrowich
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon talks with Mark Myrowich from ECBVerdyol introduces “Ditch 2.0”—a new way to think about ditch design that goes far beyond moving water. Mark shares how erosion control can become a tool for building healthier soils, reducing downstream flooding, and storing carbon. He explains the science behind biotic soil amendments, the value of biomimicry, and how small shifts in design can lead to big environmental gains. The conversation blends practical insights with innovative thinking, encouraging engineers and contractors to rethink the purpose and potential of the humble ditch.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Mark Myrowich:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bioticearth/
Email: mark@ecb.ca
Website: https://ecb.ca/
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/BioticEarth
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Key Points Discussed
Timestamps & Key Topics
[00:04:00] – NRCS Project: Riverbank Armoring Without Riprap
Eroding farmland and an at-risk road along the West Fork of the Des Moines River
Used Tesco units filled with native soil and armored with ArmorMax
Entire project required zero imported aggregate
“This entire couple thousand feet of riverbank required exactly zero aggregate.” – Kevin Good
[00:14:00] – Extreme Rainfall: Highway Armoring with Flexamat
Interstate 680 (Iowa) vulnerable to Missouri River overtopping
3 miles of Flexamat installed to prevent scour and failure
Fast response using asphalt and soil over tied concrete mats
“We didn’t even get the mat all the way in before the water came again.” – Kevin Good
[00:25:00] – Bridge Scour Protection: 2-Ton Rock Bags
Wisconsin DOT bridge on Lake Superior had up to 14 feet of scour
Installed 100+ two-ton rock bags using a rowboat and crane
Allowed sediment to filter in and stabilize the footings
“You can’t use geotextile in the middle of a stream—but you can use these.” – Kevin Good
[00:34:00] – Aging Infrastructure: Concrete Canvas in Culverts
Henry County’s 84" culvert had rusted out at the invert
Installed concrete canvas lining in one day
Local crews saved over $110,000 vs. full replacement
“If you catch it early, you can fix a culvert for a tenth of the price.” – Kevin Good
[00:41:00] – Irrigation Canal Lining with Concrete Canvas
Twin Loops Irrigation District in Nebraska
Used 6-foot-wide rolls to reline cracked concrete canals
Installed in rainy conditions with minimal crew
“We rolled out new material and gave this canal another 100 years.” – Kevin Good
[00:47:00] – Stormwater Inlet Protection: A Source Control Case Study
Des Moines neighborhood tracked sediment from just two inlets
Over 200 lbs of dried sediment collected in one year
Led to public education campaign for homeowners
“One month the fire department had to respond—the storm sewer was on fire from dried sediment and hydraulic fluid.” – Kevin Good
Key Quotes
“If you catch it early, you can fix a culvert for a tenth of the price.” – Kevin Good, on using Concrete Canvas to repair rusted culverts before failure
“This entire couple thousand feet of riverbank required exactly zero aggregate." – Kevin Good, describing an NRCS riverbank stabilization project using Tesco units and ArmorMax
"The mat will hold up to the hydraulics… and not undermine the interstate." – Kevin Good, on Flexamat being used to protect Iowa highways from overtopping
"You can’t use geotextile in the middle of a stream—but you can use these." – Kevin Good, on deploying 2-ton rock bags for bridge scour protection in flowing water
“One month the fire department had to respond—the storm sewer was on fire from dried sediment and hydraulic fluid.” – Kevin Good, recounting a dramatic moment during inlet filter testing in Des Moines
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon talks with Kevin Good from Coleman Moore Company. Kevin shares real-world stormwater project insights, showcasing practical solutions for erosion control, culvert rehabilitation, and flood resilience. From riverbank stabilization using ArmorMax and Tesco units to highway protection with Flexamat and bridge scour repair with two-ton rock bags, Kevin walks through field-tested applications that save time and money. He also discusses innovative uses of Concrete Canvas in aging infrastructure and irrigation canals, as well as stormwater inlet protection efforts tied to public education. Packed with visuals, data, and field experience, this episode is a hands-on look at stormwater products in action.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Kevin Good:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevintgood/
Email: kevin@colemanmoorecompany.com
Concrete Canvas USA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/coleman-moore-company/posts/?feedView=all
Website: https://www.colemanmoorecompany.com/
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Key Points Discussed
Timestamps & Key Topics
[00:00:00] – Introduction
"If we're going to clean up this world, it's going to require some elbow grease." – Brian Deurloo
Explanation of how the Gutter Bin is cleaned and maintained.
[00:02:00] – Meet Brian Deurloo & Frog Creek Partners
Brian’s background in mining engineering and oil & gas.
The inspiration behind Frog Creek Partners and the Gutter Bin stormwater filtration system.
"I literally shot up in bed with an idea for a filter that goes in storm drains." – Brian Deurloo
[00:06:00] – The Cigarette Butt Problem
The moment in Boston that sparked Brian’s focus on stormwater pollution.
"One smoked cigarette butt placed into a liter of water with ten minnows will kill half the fish in four days." – Brian Deurloo
[00:12:00] – Stormwater Pollution & Data Collection
How the Gutter Bin collects data on pollution levels.
"We built an app that tracks where every Gutter Bin is installed, when it was last cleaned, and how much pollution has been captured." – Brian Deurloo
Impact data from Vail, Colorado, where 22,000 pounds of pollution have been diverted.
[00:18:00] – Raising Public Awareness on Stormwater
The lack of general public knowledge about stormwater pollution.
"The average person still has no clue. 13 years in, nobody understands what I do." – Ty
Brian’s vision for a major public awareness campaign, possibly a Super Bowl ad.
[00:23:00] – Custom Storm Grate Covers & Public Engagement
The initiative to design storm grate covers with custom branding to make stormwater filtration visible.
"We put logos and colors on storm grates so people notice them and ask, 'What is that all about?'" – Brian Deurloo
[00:27:00] – Mosquito Vector Control & Trash Capture Regulations
How California’s stormwater regulations influenced Gutter Bin design.
"Our filters allow for mosquito larvicide application without needing removal, making them fully compliant with California’s vector control regulations." – Brian Deurloo
[00:32:00] – UN Conference in Saudi Arabia on AI & Water Security
Brian’s experience speaking at COP16 on AI’s role in water security.
"I deleted the invitation email twice, thinking it was a scam!" – Brian Deurloo
AI’s potential for analyzing decades of water quality data to make informed environmental decisions.
[00:39:00] – AI & Digital Twins in Stormwater Management
How AI can create digital twins of stormwater infrastructure to predict flooding, pollution sources, and water quality trends.
"AI can clear the logjam of water data and help cities make smarter decisions on stormwater management." – Brian Deurloo
[00:44:00] – The Future of Frog Creek Partners & Call to Action
Brian’s vision for scaling up stormwater pollution prevention across major watersheds.
"My goal is to install 10,000 or even 100,000 Gutter Bins in a single project, diverting millions of pounds of pollution." – Brian Deurloo
A call for partnerships with corporations, municipalities, and environmental organizations to expand stormwater filtration solutions.
Key Quotes
"If we're going to clean up this world, it's going to require some elbow grease. Nothing's going to come easy, but you can try to make it as easy as possible." – Brian Deurloo
"One smoked cigarette butt placed into a liter of water with ten minnows will kill half the fish in four days." – Brian Deurloo
"AI can clear the logjam of water data and help cities make smarter decisions on stormwater management. We’ve been collecting this data for decades—now we need to put it to work." – Brian Deurloo
"The average person still has no clue. Thirteen years in, nobody understands what I do." – Ty Garmon
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty interviews Brian Deurloo, President and Founder of Frog Creek Partners, to discuss stormwater pollution, the development of the Gutter Bin filtration system, and the role of AI in water security. Brian shares his journey from the oil and gas industry to environmental entrepreneurship, detailing how a trip to Boston sparked his passion for stormwater filtration. They dive into the alarming impact of cigarette butts on waterways, the importance of data-driven stormwater management, and how AI can help analyze decades of water quality data for better decision-making. Brian also recounts his recent experience speaking at the UN’s COP16 conference in Saudi Arabia and his vision for large-scale watershed protection through innovative partnerships.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Brian Deurloo:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-deurloo-008a2414/
Email: brian@frogcreek.partners
Concrete Canvas USA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/frog-creek-partners/
Website: https://frogcreek.partners/
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Key Points Discussed
[00:00:00] - Introduction
Host Ty introduces the topic and guest, Nathan Ivy.
Quote (Ty): "We're going to be talking a whole lot of concrete, which I know is near and dear to my wife’s heart as a civil PE."
Nathan shares the origin of Concrete Canvas and its initial use as rapidly deployable shelters for humanitarian aid.
[00:04:00] - What is Concrete Canvas?
Concrete Canvas is a flexible, fabric-like material that hardens when hydrated.
Quote (Nathan Ivy): "It’s a three-dimensional spacer fabric filled with concrete. You roll it out, anchor it, hydrate it, and in 24 hours, you have between 70 to 80 percent of the ultimate compressive strength."
[00:06:00] - How It Works
GCCM (Geosynthetic Cementitious Composite Mat) has three thicknesses for different applications.
Quote (Nathan Ivy): "Type 1 is the thinnest, used for light erosion control. Type 3 is the thickest and strongest, used for the most extreme environments."
[00:10:00] - Applications & Case Studies
Used in tank storage facilities, drainage channels, and industrial sites.
Quote (Nathan Ivy): "We lined a drainage ditch for Chevron in Houston in just three hours, preventing further erosion and water loss."
Also used for landfill protection and irrigation canal lining.
[00:16:00] - Installation Challenges & Lessons Learned
Common installation mistakes: not using anchor trenches, improper surface preparation.
Quote (Nathan Ivy): "If you're just going to peg it down, you might as well go to Walmart and buy a tarp because water will get underneath and wash it out."
[00:20:00] - Cost & Efficiency Compared to Traditional Methods
Costs around $4-$6 per square foot installed, significantly cheaper and faster than shotcrete or poured concrete.
Quote (Nathan Ivy): "We expect a lifespan of up to 120 years for slope protection applications."
[00:27:00] - Environmental Considerations & Water Flow
Can be installed underwater and maintains structural integrity.
Used to reduce seepage in irrigation canals, with one project in California showing a 96% reduction in water loss.
[00:33:00] - Global Uses & Future of Concrete Canvas
Widely used in Japan for weed suppression around road signs.
Expanding in U.S. markets like petrochemical containment, drainage, and erosion control.
[00:37:00] - Final Thoughts
Nathan shares his contact info for technical questions.
Ty wraps up, mentioning that his wife, a civil engineer, will love this episode.
Key Quotes
"We expect a lifespan of up to 120 years for slope protection applications. Drainage applications can be more like 50 years, depending on water flow and environmental conditions." – Nathan Ivy
"We lined a quarter-mile irrigation canal in California in just three and a half days, and after testing, they saw a more than 96% reduction in seepage." – Nathan Ivy
"Municipalities are always hurting for budget, and this seems like a solution that saves money and lasts longer—why aren’t more of them using this?" – Ty Garmon
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon speaks with Nathan Ivy, Technical Manager at Concrete Canvas USA, about an innovative erosion control solution known as geosynthetic cementitious composite mats (GCCM). Nathan explains how Concrete Canvas works, its durability, and its cost-effective applications in stormwater management, petrochemical containment, and infrastructure repair. They discuss real-world projects, including a Chevron drainage ditch relining and an irrigation canal in California that saw a 96% reduction in water seepage. Nathan also shares key lessons learned from installation mistakes and how municipalities can use this technology to extend infrastructure life while saving costs.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Nathan Ivy:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-ivy-4542b823/
Email: nathan.ivy@concretecanvas.com
Concrete Canvas USA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/concrete-canvas-usa/
Website: https://www.concretecanvas.com/us/
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Key Points Discussed
[00:00:00] – Introduction
Todd discusses a focus group that shaped the Pay Dirt event.
"We really want to take away the excuse of 'I didn’t know.' We wanted them to be comfortable knowing the regulations and why they exist." – Todd Clark
[00:02:00] – About Todd Clark
Todd shares his background in conservation, stormwater management, and agriculture.
He discusses his experience managing Elkhart County’s stormwater and MS4 regulations.
[00:08:00] – The Birth of Pay Dirt
How COVID-19 forced them to rethink contractor education.
Bringing together stormwater and agriculture under one event.
"Why do farmers get a pass? We realized stormwater affects both industries, and we needed a conversation between them." – Todd Clark
[00:15:00] – Branding the Event for Success
The importance of giving the event a unique identity.
"We wanted people to ask, ‘When is Pay Dirt next year?’ That’s when you know you’ve built something lasting." – Todd Clark
[00:20:00] – Structure of the Event
Two-day event: One day for agriculture, one for stormwater.
Unexpected crossover—stormwater professionals interested in agriculture topics and vice versa.
[00:30:00] – Changes for Pay Dirt 2025
Moving to a larger, upgraded venue.
Combining agriculture and stormwater tracks for more interaction.
"Some sessions will force people to make tough choices—because they apply to both stormwater and ag." – Todd Clark
[00:33:00] – Expanding the Conversation
A speaker from Minnesota will present on large-scale stormwater retention projects in agriculture.
Collaboration with the University of Notre Dame to identify ideal retention locations.
[00:36:00] – The Vendor Experience & Evening Reception
How vendors play a crucial role in stormwater innovation.
Pay Dirt 2025 will include a networking reception with a keynote from the former superintendent of Indiana Dunes National Park.
[00:40:00] – Water Quality = Quality of Life
"In Elkhart County, it’s about water quality of life—because good water quality means a better quality of life for everyone." – Todd Clark
[00:45:00] – The Future of Pay Dirt
Balancing growth with maintaining a meaningful, impactful event.
Expanding digital access so more people can benefit from Pay Dirt.
"We have to erase county lines, erase state lines—water doesn’t care about borders." – Todd Clark
Key Quotes
"We really want to take away the excuse of 'I didn’t know.' We wanted them to be comfortable knowing the regulations and why they exist." – Todd Clark
"Why do farmers get a pass? We realized stormwater affects both industries, and we needed a conversation between them." – Todd Clark
"Water doesn’t care where agriculture stops and an MS4 starts. It’s all connected, and we need to work together." – Todd Clark
"In Elkhart County, it’s about water quality of life—because good water quality means a better quality of life for everyone." – Todd Clark
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon speaks with Todd Clark from the Elkhart County SWCD about Pay Dirt 2025, a unique event that brings together agriculture and stormwater professionals to address water management challenges. Todd shares how the event started, its impact on bridging gaps between industries, and the changes coming in 2025, including a larger venue, combined educational tracks, and a stronger focus on collaboration. He emphasizes the importance of water quality as a foundation for community well-being and the need for proactive stormwater solutions. With growing attendance and national interest, Pay Dirt is shaping up to be a must-attend event for stormwater and agricultural stakeholders alike.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Todd Clark:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-clark-2b3859329/
Email: tclark@elkhartcounty.com
Pay Dirt Website: https://www.elkcoswcd.org/pay-dirt/
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Key Points Discussed
00:01 - Introduction
Ty Garmon: "Welcome back to the Stormwater World podcast... today I’m excited to have Jerry Sanders, President of the IECA."
02:39 - Jerry's Journey and IECA’s Impact
Jerry Sanders: "When I first attended IECA in 1997, I realized what I had been missing... I met people from all over the world and learned techniques I hadn’t seen before."
05:12 - Business Growth Through IECA
Jerry shares how becoming a material and technique expert allowed his business to thrive and eventually be sold to Cardinal Strategies.
Jerry Sanders: "Once I started learning, my business exploded."
07:08 - Giving Back to IECA
Jerry discusses his transition to IECA leadership and his focus on building member engagement.
"Every member is an asset. The more they get involved, the better the association becomes."
09:05 - From Discussion to Action: IECA Initiatives
Jerry highlights recent progress in implementing education programs and international outreach.
15:07 - The Value of Conferences and Networking
Ty Garmon: "You’re not the decision-maker today, but you will be tomorrow."
Jerry encourages attendees to connect with vendors and peers to expand their knowledge.
19:01 - International Outreach and Bioengineering Innovations
Jerry explains the global exchange of erosion control techniques and challenges.
23:41 - The Future of IECA
Jerry Sanders: "Membership is growing, and our regional education efforts are stronger. The future is bright."
25:50 - Closing Thoughts
Jerry Sanders: "Stormwater is an ongoing problem. The only way it gets solved is if we all pull together. IECA is one of the best bridge builders out there."
Key Quotes
"Every member is an asset... involvement pays off for the association." - Jerry Sanders
"The more you know, the better off you are." - Jerry Sanders
"You’re not the decision-maker today, but you will be tomorrow." - Ty Garmon
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon speaks with Jerry Sanders, President of the International Erosion Control Association (IECA). Jerry reflects on his career journey, the impact of IECA on his business growth, and his commitment to giving back through leadership. He highlights the importance of education, global collaboration, and member engagement within IECA, sharing insights into upcoming initiatives and the value of networking at the annual conference. Jerry emphasizes that solving stormwater challenges requires collective effort and invites listeners to join the IECA Annual Conference in Richmond, VA, this February.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Jerry Sanders:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerry-sanders-1865089/
Email: jerry.sanders@cardinalstrategies.com
Connect with IECA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/930007/
IECA Website: https://connect.ieca.org/home
2025 Annual Conference February 25-28 in Richmond, VA: https://ieca2025.eventscribe.net/
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Key Points Discussed
00:00 - Introduction
Ty introduces the guests and the topic: “We’re going to talk about IECA and how it supports professionals in the erosion control and stormwater industry.”
03:06 - Julie on IECA’s Education Mission
“IECA champions education forward... It’s not just about products. It’s about solving real-world problems.” – Julie Morelli
04:48 - Jeff on IECA’s Programs
Jeff explains the University Partnership Program: “It’s about providing students opportunities to network, present, and connect with industry professionals.”
07:53 - Julie on Building Careers Through Relationships
“Your career is a series of relationships. IECA creates a space for those connections that can last a lifetime.” – Julie Morelli
10:44 - Ty on the Value of Relationships
Ty highlights industry camaraderie: “This industry can feel lonely. Relationships you make in IECA help you tackle challenges together.”
11:41 - Julie’s IECA Experience
“IECA taught me to speak everyone’s language—contractors, regulators, engineers—and bridge those conversations to shared outcomes.” – Julie Morelli
14:24 - Jeff on Professional Growth
Jeff reflects on his involvement: “IECA gave me a new perspective, and now I’m sitting through classes, learning, and growing professionally.”
23:29 - Regional Conference Announcement
Jeff announces the next South Central Chapter conference: “October 7-8, 2024, in Oklahoma City. The region has shown growing enthusiasm for stormwater quality.”
27:18 - Julie as Keynote Speaker
Jeff praises Julie’s expertise: “Julie walked off the jetway and knocked it out of the park as our keynote. She’s a phenomenal speaker and educator.”
Final Thoughts
Jeff and Julie share why IECA is more than just conferences. It’s a platform for education, leadership, and building meaningful industry relationships.
“Put yourself out there. Join IECA, attend events, and engage with the community to get the most value.” – Jeff King
Key Quotes
Julie Morelli on the Value of IECA:
"Your career is a series of relationships. IECA creates a space for those connections that can last a lifetime."
Jeff King on Professional Development:
"IECA gave me a new perspective, and now I’m sitting through classes, learning, and growing professionally."
Ty Garmon on Industry Camaraderie:
"This industry can feel lonely. Relationships you make in IECA help you tackle challenges together."
In this episode of the Stormwater World Podcast, host Ty Garmon speaks with Jeff King, President of the South Central Chapter of IECA, and Julie Morelli, Vice President of Technical for the chapter, about the benefits of joining the International Erosion Control Association (IECA). They discuss IECA's focus on education, networking, and professional development, highlighting programs like the University Partnership Program and the Young Professionals Program. Julie shares how IECA has helped her bridge communication between stakeholders in the stormwater industry, while Jeff emphasizes how the organization has enriched his professional growth and industry relationships. The guests also announce upcoming events, including the 2024 South Central Chapter Conference in Oklahoma City.
The views expressed are that of the individual and do not represent the opinions of any companies past, present or future.
Connect with Jeff King, CPESC:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-king-a0ba9282/
Email: jking@americanexcelsior.com
Connect with Julie Morelli, PG, REM, CPESC, ENV SP:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-morelli-9437344/
Connect with IECA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/930007/
IECA Website: https://connect.ieca.org/home
2025 Annual Conference: https://ieca2025.eventscribe.net/
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