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More Than A Title
More Than A Title
Author: Jarrett Thomas
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More Than A Title is a show that features some of the best and brightest minds in the marketing/sales industries and dives deep into the guest personal journey and what they overcome to be successful in business. Be prepared to hear life lessons that can help you both grow personally and professionally and understand who the person is behind the title.
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On this episode of More Than A Title, Jarrett sits down with marketing powerhouse Jabari Hearn to talk about what it really means to build brands that move cultureand people.
As Chief Marketing & Growth Officer at AKQA, Jabari has been at the center of some of the most impactful brand moments of the last decade. From shaping culture-forward storytelling at Westbrook Media with Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith, to launching purpose-driven initiatives like LyftUp at Lyft, Jabaris career is a masterclass in aligning mission, marketing, and impact.
We also get into his time at Google, where he led global marketing for mobile hardware and rolled out iconic campaigns featuring Childish Gambino, as well as his 12-year run at Nike, including work on the landmark Nike x NFL partnership.
Beyond the titles, Jabari opens up about mentorship, representation, and why giving back is non-negotiablethrough initiatives like Monday Night Mentorship and his board service with the Marcus Graham Project. He also reflects on leadership, fatherhood, and staying grounded while operating at the highest levels of business.
This is a real conversation about legacy, purpose, and how to win without losing yourself. More than a titleits the work, the impact, and the people you bring with you.
This episode is personal.My guest is Michael King, Founder of iPullRank, and this conversation is a real full-circle moment for me.Before the titles, before the accolades, before the microphonesthis is where I got my start in being a content creator. I was working at iPullRank when I first began podcasting, learning the game, finding my voice, and figuring out what impact could really look like. To sit here now, years later, having this conversation as peers, is something I dont take lightly.In this episode, we reflect honestly on:What we were building then and what we were learning in real timeHow the industry, the work, and we have evolved sinceThe sacrifices, pressure, and leadership lessons that dont make it into LinkedIn postsAnd most importantly, taking a moment to give each other our flowersout loud, with intentionThis isnt about buzzwords or flexing. Its about trust, growth, timing, and recognizing the people who played a real role in your journey. Michael shares his perspective as a founder, a builder, and someone whos helped shape careersincluding mine.This episode is a reminder that your title may change, but the relationships, lessons, and moments that shape you matter far more
This week on More Than a Title, Im joined by Pamela Robinson and Catrina Dyer-Taylor, co-founders of the 40+ Double Dutch Club. From a plastic clothesline to a global sisterhood, these women turned a simple idea into a movement full of faith, fun, and fitness for women over 40.
Pamela opens up about turning pain into purpose, and Catrina shares how leadership, dedication, and community can uplift and empower women everywhere. If you need a reminder that age doesnt define impactand that joy and purpose are always within reachthis episode is for you.
To Join or support 40+ Double Dutch Club: https://www.40plusdoubledutchclub.org/become-a-member
On this episode of More Than A Title, Im honored to sit down with Adrienne L. Lucas as part of our Black History Month celebration, highlighting successful leaders who are building impact and opening doors for others. Adrienne is a strategist and global connector who operates at the intersection of culture, creativity, and leadership, and her work continues to shape how talent is discovered, developed, and elevated across the industry.
As Head of Strategic Partnerships & DEI at The One Club for Creativity, Adrienne leads flagship conferences and career fairs across New York, Atlanta, Toronto, and Los Angeles, while also designing bespoke programs globally. We talk about what it really takes to build meaningful partnerships with brands like WPP, Delta Air Lines, Capital One, and Este Lauder, and how to stay rooted in purpose while moving at a global level.
With a foundation as an NYU-trained lawyer and thought leadership featured in The New York Times, Ad Age, and ABCs Here and Now, Adrienne brings strategy, clarity, and cultural responsibility to every room she enters. This conversation goes beyond titles and rsums its about leadership, access, and celebrating Black excellence that continues to move our culture forward.
Programs and resources mentioned in the show:
https://waatbp.oneclub.org/
https://oneschoolus.com/
https://onecreatorlab.org/
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On this episode of More Than A Title, Im joined by D.C. Don Juan a true creative architect whose journey is rooted in evolution, not ego. Born in the Bronx, raised in the DMV, and sharpened in Atlanta, Don Juans path shows what happens when you stop chasing moments and start understanding purpose.
We talk about his early days in music and landing a recording deal with Jive Records, the courage it took to pivot from being in front of the camera to controlling the narrative behind it, and how that shift opened doors to documenting some of the most powerful moments in modern music. From helping shape the early visual identity of artists like Latto and Saucy Santana to touring globally with legends like Future, The Fugees, Buju Banton, Lil Baby, and Rod Wave, Don Juan has been present for moments that dont get repeated.
This conversation isnt just about cameras, tours, or access its about reinvention, trust, discipline, and the responsibility that comes with preserving culture. D.C. Don Juan is living proof that when you commit to growth and vision, the title will always be secondary to the legacy.
On this episode of More Than A Title, host Jarrett sits down with creative legend Lewis Williams to break down one of the biggest cultural moments of the yearthe Super Bowl. From the game itself to the ads that moved the needle, we unpack what worked, what missed, and why creativity at this level is about more than budgets and buzzwords. Lewis brings decades of experience shaping iconic brands to the conversation, offering a behind-the-scenes lens on how storytelling, emotion, and strategy collide on the worlds biggest stage.
We also dive deeper into culture, representation, and authenticityusing moments like Bad Bunnys Super Bowl presence as a case study in why creativity should reflect the world as it actually is, not just whats comfortable. This episode is about embracing evolution, understanding the responsibility that comes with influence, and why the most powerful creative work doesnt ask for permissionit creates impact. If you care about culture, branding, and where creativity is headed next, this is one you dont want to miss.
Todays episode of More Than A Title is special.
This is our Family Appreciation Show, and its all about showing love to the people who truly make MTAT what it is the community. Im welcoming members of the MTAT family onto the show to share their stories, their journeys, and the moments that shaped who they are beyond the titles they carry.
These are real conversations with real people. No filters. No pretenses. Just purpose, growth, lessons learned, and the power of community.
MTAT has always been bigger than a podcast its a family and this episode is a reflection of that. If youve ever supported, tuned in, shared an episode, or felt connected to this platform in any way, and have something to share pull up tonight!
On this episode of More Than A Title, I sit down with Derrick Chevaliera nationally recognized negotiation expert, author, mediator, and consultant whos spent over 25 years mastering the art of leverage, strategy, and decision-making.
Derrick isnt just teaching theory. Hes been in the roomhandling high-stakes negotiations across business, real estate, leadership, mediation, and even hostage negotiation. As the creator of the CNSUF negotiation framework and Executive Vice President of Harrison-Chevalier, hes helped leaders around the world negotiate with clarity, confidence, and control.
This conversation is about more than titles, degrees, or credentials. Its about knowing your value, understanding the psychology of the room, and walking into every conversation prepared to winwithout compromising who you are. If negotiation is part of your life or business (and it is), this episode will change how you move.
In this episode of More Than A Title, hosts Jarrett sit down with Simon Severinointernational business strategist, bestselling author, and founder of Strategy Sprintsto break down what it really takes to scale a business the right way.
Simon shares how top founders create clarity, focus on what actually moves revenue, and build systems that allow them to grow faster while working less. We talk about why most businesses dont fail from lack of talent, but from lack of focusand how simplifying your strategy can unlock sustainable growth.
If youre a founder, executive, or creative trying to build something meaningful without burning out, this conversation will challenge how you think about growth, discipline, and success beyond the title.
On this episode of More Than A Title, host Jarrett sits down with PD The King Architect Samuels, Executive Director and public face of the Boyz 2 Men Foundation, for a powerful conversation about purpose, identity, and intentional manhood.
After surviving a traumatic brain injury at just three years old, PDs life was forged through adversityand guided by faith. Today, he dedicates his work to mentoring young men, helping them develop emotional intelligence, leadership, and a strong sense of self in a world that often fails to teach them how.
This conversation goes deeper than job titles and accolades. Its about what it really means to build a legacy, why manhood doesnt happen by accident, and how resilience is formed long before success is visible.
Because kings arent borntheyre built.
On this episode of More Than A Title, we sit down with Sean Atkinson, Founder of Majority Media and a Business Strategy Architect with over 40 years of experience helping entrepreneurs build brands that actually workfrom the first dollar to $350K and beyond.
Sean cuts through the noise and gets straight to the real issue: most businesses dont fail because people arent working hard enoughthey fail because theyre solving the wrong problems. Hustle isnt the issue. Clarity is.
Having worked across the brand side, agency world, publishing, and ad tech, Sean has seen every path a business can takeand how each one usually plays out. We talk about defining what success really means to you, identifying the path youre currently on, and building a strategy that fits your life, your goals, and your circumstancesnot someone elses playbook.
If youre tired of recycled frameworks, surface-level advice, and best practices with no context, this conversation is for you. Sean speaks with you, not at youand this episode is all about moving with intention, alignment, and purpose
On Part 2 of More Than A Title, host Jarrett sits back down with Jordan March, one of the standout stars of Netflixs hit series Owning Manhattan. In this episode, Jordan opens up about what life really looks like after the cameras stop rolling the pressure, the expectations, and the responsibility that comes with visibility.
Jordan shares how hes leveraging the platform to build long-term success, the mindset shifts required to thrive in high-stakes real estate, and the lessons hes learned navigating ambition, relationships, and personal growth in one of the most competitive markets in the world.
This isnt about reality TV hype its about discipline, vision, and understanding that success is always more than a title.
Were kicking off 2026 the right way. On the first episode of the year and our 256th episode, More Than A Title hosts Jarrett and Chadeo sit down with hip-hop legend Milk Dee of Audio Two.
Hip-hop wouldnt sound the same without him. From the creation of the iconic Top Billinone of the most sampled records in music historyto helping shape the foundation of the culture, Milk Dee goes beyond the music to share the real story behind the legacy. We talk early industry lessons, creative ownership, longevity, and what it means to make something timeless in a fast-moving world.
This episode is more than a momentits a reminder that true impact outlives trends, and real influence cant be measured by numbers alone
On this episode of More Than A Title, Jarrett and Chadeo sit down with Michael Keith, founding member of the legendary R&B group 112. From creating the soundtrack to so many moments with records like Only You, Cupid, and Peaches & Cream, to selling millions of records worldwide, Michael reflects on what it really took to build something that lasted.
We talk about brotherhood, navigating the music industry when the cameras stop rolling, and the personal growth that comes after the success everyone sees. This isnt just about the hits its about identity, evolution, and understanding that the mindset it takes to be successful.
On this episode of More Than A Title, Jarrett and Chadeo sit down with Danny Robinson a leader whose career proves theres no single path to the top. From chief creative officer to chief executive officer, Dannys journey is rooted in outside-the-box thinking, storytelling, and a fearless approach to leadership.
Danny breaks down how blending creativity and business acumen led to breakthrough ideas, industry-shifting campaigns, and historic recognition including Adweek Agency of the Year, Ad Ages Agency of the Year, and Fast Companys Most Innovative Companies list. He shares behind-the-scenes stories from working with iconic brands like UPS, GEICO, DoorDash, OREO, and more, along with the mindset it takes to evolve, stay relevant, and lead with purpose.
We also tap into his creative roots from writing award-winning animated stories like Lil Ruby to his early days as a DJ and stand-up comic and how those experiences shaped the executive he is today. This conversation is a masterclass in reinvention, leadership, and understanding that you are always more than the title you hold.
Join Jarrett and Chadeo on More Than A Title as they sit down with Leon Winkler, Senior Director of International Events at Ubisoft. With nearly two decades at the forefront of iconic events like E3, Gamescom, and Ubisoft Forward, Leon shares his insights on building experiences that connect people, tell powerful stories, and leave a lasting cultural impact.Leon also dives into his passion project, Black Game Pros Sessions, a platform dedicated to celebrating Black excellence across gaming and digital culture. Tune in to hear the strategies, mindset, and behind-the-scenes stories that make him a true leader in the gaming world.
Reel Talk is back and yall made this happen. After the crazy engagement, messages, and emails from our last session, Jarrett and Chadeo are bringing another special edition of More Than A Title to the community.
This time, were diving deep into the business of podcasting and what creators need to be locked in on heading into 2026. From choosing the right equipment, systems, and software to landing guests, building momentum, and growing your platform were breaking the entire game down.
And because Reel Talk is all about community, were opening up the floor again for live conversations with other podcasters. Whether youre just starting or leveling up, this episode is your blueprint.
Tap in. Learn. Build. Elevate. This ones for the creators
For our 250th episode, we had to bring someone whos shaping the culture in real time. Jarrett and Chadeo sit down with Detavio Samuels, CEO of REVOLT and one of the sharpest minds in media today.
Detavio walks us through the journey from graduating Duke and Stanford by 25 to becoming the force behind Americas fastest-growing Black-owned media company. We get into building ecosystems for Black storytelling, leading teams across coasts, scaling platforms with purpose, and why Hip-Hop remains one of the greatest teachers of our time.
This episode is a celebration of the work, the vision, and the community that made 250 possible. Tap in with us and join the conversation as Detavio drops game on culture, leadership, and designing the future
Jarrett and Chadeo kick off our monthly Reel Talk, where the culture, the business, and the headlines all meet at the same table and the community gets to jump in with us live on screen.
Theres a lot moving right now: new music shaking up the feeds, big stories breaking across hip hop, and the usual mix of wins, drama, and shifts that keep the game spinning. From artists dropping heat to industry giants making headlines, were tapping into whats really shaping the moment.
Pull up with your perspective, your questions, your energy.
This isnt just a show its a live conversation with the people who make the culture breathe.
Reel Talk. More Than A Title. Tap in with us.
On this episode of More Than A Title, Jarrett and Chadeo chop it up with Chynna Morgan2x tech founder, marketing mind, and the force behind Vidlo, the platform helping brands tap into real people and real stories through video.
Chynna breaks down her journey from early hustle to becoming a leader at the crossroads of music, marketing, and technology. We get into how shes using video to change the way companies build trust, why user-generated content hits different, and the mindset it takes to create something the industry hasnt seen before. She shares the wins, the pivots, and the real lessons that shaped her as a founder navigating fast-moving spaces.
If youre growing a business, building a brand, or just trying to figure out how to stand out in a crowded world, this episode is packed with game from someone whos actually doing the work.
Tap inthis ones filled with gems, clarity, and culture.























