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Welcome to this mental health and eating disorder podcast by Dr. Marianne Miller, who is an eating disorder therapist and binge eating and ARFID course creator. In this podcast, Dr. Marianne explores the ins and outs of eating disorder recovery. It’s a top podcast for people struggling with anorexia, bulimia, binge eating disorder, ARFID (avoidant restrictive food intake disorder), and any sort of distressed eating. We discuss topics like neurodiversity and eating disorders, self-compassion in eating disorder recovery, lived experience of eating disorders, LGBTQ+ and eating disorders, as well as anti-fat bias, weight-neutral fitness, muscularity-oriented issues, and body image. Dr. Marianne has been an eating disorder therapist for 13 years and has created a course on ARFID and selective eating, as well as a membership to help you recover from binge eating disorder and bulimia. Dr. Marianne has been in mental health for 28 years. Dr. Marianne is neurodivergent and works with a lot of neurodivergent folks. She has fully recovered from an eating disorder that lasted 25 years, and she wants to share her experience, knowledge, and recovery joy with you! Her interview episodes with top eating disorder professionals drop on Tuesdays. You can also tune in on Fridays when Dr. Marianne’s SOLO episodes that come out. You’ll hear personal stories, tips, and strategies to help you in your eating disorder recovery journey. If you’re struggling with food, eating, body image, and mental health, this podcast is for you!
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Why do eating disorders and ADHD so often overlap, and why does standard eating disorder treatment frequently fail neurodivergent people? In this episode of Dr. Marianne-Land, I’m joined by Taylor Ashley @taylorashleytherapy, Registered Psychotherapist based in Guelph, Ontario, who specializes in eating disorders, ADHD, trauma, body image, and neurodivergence. Taylor brings both professional expertise and lived experience to this conversation, offering a deeply honest look at how eating disorders can function as coping and regulation systems for neurodivergent brains. Together, we unpack why recovery often looks different for people with ADHD, why hunger cues may never fully return for some, and how approaches like mechanical eating, HAES-informed care, and trauma-informed therapy can make recovery more accessible and sustainable. In This Episode, We Discuss: Eating Disorders and ADHD We explore why ADHD and eating disorders frequently co-occur, including how dopamine regulation, anxiety, and nervous system overload shape behaviors like restricting, purging, and binging. Neurodivergent-Affirming Eating Disorder Recovery Taylor explains why traditional eating disorder treatment models often miss neurodivergent needs and how affirming care prioritizes sensory safety, autonomy, and individualized support. Mechanical Eating vs Intuitive Eating We talk openly about why intuitive eating is not realistic or safe for many neurodivergent people and how mechanical eating can be a supportive, valid recovery strategy. Sensory Processing, Clothing, and Body Image From sports uniforms to fabric textures, we discuss how sensory sensitivities and body shame intersect and how these experiences can quietly drive eating disorder behaviors. Brain Chemistry, Dopamine, and Regulation Taylor breaks down how restricting, purging, and binging can temporarily regulate dopamine and serotonin, especially for people with ADHD, and why this makes eating disorders feel grounding and hard to let go of. Trauma-Informed and IFS-Informed Approaches We explore Internal Family Systems (IFS) and how understanding the protective role of eating disorder behaviors can reduce shame and support long-term change. HAES-Informed and Weight-Inclusive Care We discuss why Health at Every Size–informed treatment matters, how weight-focused care can cause harm, and what to look for when building a neurodivergent-affirming outpatient treatment team. When Inpatient Treatment Is Not the Right Fit Taylor shares why inpatient programs can be unsafe for neurodivergent people when they lack sensory awareness and flexibility, and how intensive outpatient support can sometimes be a better option. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for: People with ADHD and eating disorders Neurodivergent adults navigating recovery Clinicians and therapists working in eating disorder treatment Anyone who feels like standard recovery advice has never fit their brain or body About Taylor Ashley, RP Taylor Ashley is a Registered Psychotherapist based in Guelph, Ontario, specializing in eating disorders, ADHD, trauma, neurodivergence, and body image. Her work centers neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed, and HAES-aligned care. Taylor brings lived experience, deep compassion, and clinical insight to her work with individuals seeking recovery that actually fits their nervous system. Follow Taylor on Instagram: @taylorashleytherapy Learn more: taylorashleytherapy.com Related Episodes  Unmasking, Embodiment, & Trust: A Neurodivergent Approach to Eating Disorder Recovery With Dr. Emma Offord @divergentlives via Apple & Spotify. Unmasking in Eating Disorder Recovery: What Neurodivergent People Need to Know About Safety & Healing via Apple & Spotify. Recovering Again: Navigating Eating Disorders After a Late Neurodivergent Diagnosis (Part 1) With Stacie Fanelli, LCSW @edadhd_therapist via Apple & Spotify. Final Note If eating disorder recovery has felt inaccessible, overwhelming, or unsafe in the past, this conversation offers validation, language, and concrete reframes that may finally make things click.
What does hope really mean when an eating disorder has lasted for years or decades? In 2026, many people with chronic eating disorders feel left out of recovery conversations that prioritize fast change, early intervention, and visible transformation. This episode offers a different framework. One that respects long-term patterns, nervous system survival, neurodivergence, and harm reduction. This conversation is for anyone who has wondered whether recovery is still possible for them, or whether traditional recovery models ever truly fit in the first place. Understanding Chronic Eating Disorders Chronic eating disorders are often misunderstood as failures or lack of motivation. In reality, long-term eating disorder patterns usually develop as adaptive responses to unmet needs for safety, regulation, autonomy, or predictability. These patterns persist not because someone is resistant to change, but because they once worked. In 2026, more clinicians are beginning to recognize eating disorders as learned survival systems rather than character flaws. This shift changes how care is offered and how hope becomes possible. Why Traditional Recovery Hope Often Falls Apart Many people with long-term eating disorders have been harmed by how hope is framed in treatment. When hope depends on symptom elimination, linear progress, or compliance with rigid models, it becomes fragile. Setbacks then feel like proof that recovery has failed. For chronic eating disorders, hope cannot be conditional. It must be able to coexist with fluctuation, stress, and ongoing vulnerability without turning into another source of shame. What Hope Can Actually Look Like for Long-Term Eating Disorders Hope in chronic eating disorder recovery often looks quieter and more realistic than cultural narratives suggest. It may involve increased choice instead of total freedom, fewer all-or-nothing spirals, or the ability to pause before acting on urges. For many people, hope shows up as nourishment that feels neutral rather than terrifying, or as eating with accommodations that respect sensory and nervous system needs. This kind of hope does not erase struggle. It changes how much control the eating disorder has over daily life. Progress Beyond Symptom Elimination Progress in long-term eating disorder recovery often happens beneath the surface. It can appear as quicker nervous system recovery after distress, reduced intensity of urges, or increased ability to name internal experiences instead of dissociating from them. These changes matter. They reflect learning, regulation, and increased safety, even when symptoms remain present. Measuring progress by lived experience rather than symptom checklists allows hope to grow more sustainably. Neurodivergence, Trauma, and Treatment Fit Many people with chronic eating disorders are neurodivergent, trauma-exposed, or both. Historically, eating disorder treatment has often failed to account for sensory needs, autonomy, and nervous system regulation. When care does not fit, people are frequently blamed rather than supported. In 2026, more neurodivergent-affirming and trauma-informed approaches are emerging. These frameworks recognize eating disorder behaviors as attempts at regulation and protection, not defiance. When care adapts to the person instead of forcing conformity, change becomes more possible. Harm Reduction and Chronic Eating Disorders Harm reduction plays a critical role in supporting people with long-term eating disorders. Rather than demanding full recovery as the only acceptable outcome, harm reduction focuses on reducing risk, increasing stability, and supporting safety in the present moment. For many people, harm reduction offers a form of hope that does not collapse under pressure. In 2026, this approach is increasingly recognized as legitimate, ethical eating disorder care. Letting Go of Cure-Based Recovery Models One of the most hopeful shifts for chronic eating disorders is releasing the idea that cure is the only meaningful goal. People deserve care, dignity, and support regardless of whether they reach full symptom remission. Many individuals experience greater peace when they stop chasing recovery narratives that were never designed for them and begin building lives that work with their nervous systems rather than against them. You Are Not Too Late If an eating disorder has been part of your life for a long time, you are not behind and you are not broken. You did not miss your chance at support. Hope does not require erasing your history or minimizing what you have survived. Hope can exist alongside chronicity. Related Episodes Why Some Eating Disorders Don’t Resolve: Understanding Chronic Patterns & What Actually Supports Change on Apple and Spotify. When an Eating Disorder Becomes Chronic: Recovery Tools for Persistent Anorexia & Bulimia on Apple and Spotify. Work With Me I offer eating disorder therapy, consultation, and educational resources that center chronic eating disorders, neurodivergence, trauma-informed care, and harm reduction. My work is designed for people who have already tried standard recovery paths and need something more humane and realistic. You deserve support that meets you where you are in 2026. Check out my website at drmariannemiller.com for info about therapy, coaching, and virtual, self-paced courses.
Not all eating disorder behaviors feel distressing. For many neurodivergent people, certain eating patterns can feel calming, organizing, or regulating rather than intrusive or unwanted. This solo episode explores the often misunderstood difference between egosyntonic and egodystonic eating disorder behaviors, with a specific focus on neurodivergent experiences. Dr. Marianne Miller breaks down why distress is not a reliable indicator of risk, how soothing routines can still create long-term concerns, and how clinicians and individuals can assess eating behaviors without pathologizing neurodivergence. This conversation centers nuance, consent, and nervous system safety rather than urgency or moral judgment. What Does Egosyntonic vs Egodystonic Mean in Eating Disorders? Egodystonic eating disorder behaviors feel unwanted and distressing. They often clash with a person’s values or sense of self and can feel out of control. Egosyntonic behaviors, on the other hand, feel aligned with the self. They may feel logical, helpful, or necessary, even when others express concern. This episode explains why egosyntonic does not mean harmless and why egodystonic does not automatically mean more severe. These terms describe internal experience, not medical or nutritional risk. Neurodivergence, Regulation, and Eating Disorder Behaviors Neurodivergent nervous systems often rely on structure, predictability, and repetition for regulation. Food routines, sameness, timing, or tracking can reduce sensory overload and cognitive demand. What feels regulating internally may look concerning externally. Dr. Marianne explores how clinicians and loved ones often misread neurodivergent regulation as pathology, or dismiss concern when distress is absent. This section highlights why both reactions miss the full picture. Why Distress Is Not a Reliable Marker of Risk Many eating disorder assessments rely too heavily on visible distress. This episode explains why distress can fluctuate and why the absence of distress does not equal safety. Neurodivergent people may feel calm and regulated even as food variety narrows, rigidity increases, or nourishment decreases. The episode emphasizes the importance of looking beyond how a behavior feels in the moment and instead examining how it shapes health, flexibility, and daily life over time. Where Is the Line Between Regulation and Harm? This episode directly addresses the question many people ask but rarely get answered clearly. The line is not about whether a behavior feels soothing. It is not about motivation or readiness for change. It is about what the behavior requires and what it takes away over time. Dr. Marianne outlines how to evaluate eating behaviors through function, sustainability, and long-term consequences without shaming, coercion, or urgency. A Neurodivergent-Affirming Approach to Care This conversation is not about taking away coping strategies or forcing change. Removing regulation without replacement can destabilize neurodivergent people and increase risk. Instead, this episode discusses how to preserve safety while reducing long-term harm through added supports, sensory accommodations, and gradual expansion. The focus stays on consent, autonomy, and respect for identity. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for neurodivergent teens and adults who feel confused when eating behaviors feel helpful but raise concern from others. It is also for clinicians who want to assess eating disorders without relying solely on distress or external appearance. If you have ever thought, this does not feel like a problem to me, but other people seem worried, this episode speaks directly to that experience. Related Episodes Unmasking, Embodiment, & Trust: A Neurodivergent Approach to Eating Disorder Recovery With Dr. Emma Offord @divergentlives via Apple & Spotify. Unmasking in Eating Disorder Recovery: What Neurodivergent People Need to Know About Safety & Healing via Apple & Spotify. Autism & Anorexia: When Masking Looks Like Restriction, & Recovery Feels Unsafe via Apple & Spotify. Recovering Again: Navigating Eating Disorders After a Late Neurodivergent Diagnosis (Part 1) With Stacie Fanelli, LCSW @edadhd_therapist via Apple & Spotify. Work With Dr. Marianne Miller Dr. Marianne Miller is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in eating disorder recovery with a neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed approach. She works with teens and adults navigating ARFID, binge eating disorder, and long-term eating disorder patterns. Go to her website at drmariannemiller.com for information on therapy and online, self-paced courses.
What happens when medical care reduces a whole human being to a number on a scale? In this episode of Dr. Marianne-Land, I’m joined by Ivy Felicia, Body Relationship Coach and founder of Luxuriant Life, for a deeply grounding conversation about anti-fat bias in healthcare, chronic illness, and what it actually takes to build peace with your body in a system that often causes harm. Ivy shares her lived experience as a Black woman of size navigating PCOS, autoimmune illness, thyroid disease, and repeated medical dismissal. We talk openly about the moment a provider told her weight loss surgery was the only option and what it meant to be treated as disposable when she declined. That moment became a turning point that reshaped her relationship with her body and ultimately led to the creation of her Body Relationship Method, a size-inclusive, weight-neutral approach grounded in compassion, self-trust, and holistic wellness. Throughout this conversation, we explore how chronic illness, medical trauma, and anti-fat bias intersect, and why body positivity is not always accessible or supportive for people living in pain, disability, or marginalized bodies. Ivy explains why she centers body peace rather than body love, and how choosing neutrality and non-violence toward your body can be a more realistic and healing place to start. We also discuss the role of spirituality and surrender in healing a relationship with your body. Ivy describes how prayer, connection to nature, journaling, and honoring ancestors support her through periods of overwhelm, and why taking healing one breath at a time can feel far more attainable than one day at a time when you live with chronic pain or illness. This episode also dives into internalized anti-fat bias and internalized ableism. Ivy shares how listening, witnessing, and affirming someone’s lived experience can be profoundly reparative, especially for people who have spent years being dismissed or erased by medical systems. We talk about visibility, self-advocacy, and how being truly heard can help people reclaim their voice and their worth. If you’ve ever felt disconnected from your body because of chronic illness, eating disorder recovery, medical trauma, or weight stigma, this conversation offers a gentler way forward. There is no finish line here. There is no pressure to love your body. There is space to move toward peace, at your own pace, one breath at a time. About Ivy Felicia Ivy Felicia is a Body Relationship Coach, certified holistic wellness practitioner, speaker, and founder of Luxuriant Life, LLC. She is the creator of the Body Relationship Method, a trademarked, size-inclusive, weight-neutral approach that helps people heal body image, navigate chronic illness with compassion, and rebuild self-trust. Through coaching, community, and education, Ivy supports people in marginalized bodies in cultivating peace with their bodies without dieting, scale-based wellness, or toxic positivity. Work With Ivy Felicia Ivy offers support through her Body Relationship Circle membership, group coaching programs, and one-on-one coaching. You can learn more and sign up for her newsletter at ivyfelicia.com. Follow Ivy on Instagram and Threads at @iamivyfelicia. Content Note This episode includes discussion of anti-fat bias in healthcare, chronic illness, medical dismissal, and weight loss surgery recommendations. Want More Support? If anti-fat bias, chronic illness, or medical trauma has impacted your relationship with food or your body, you’re not alone. I offer eating disorder therapy and recovery support with a liberation-oriented, neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed approach. I work with clients in California, Texas, Washington, D.C., and globally via coaching and education. You can learn more about working with me and explore my courses and resources at drmariannemiller.com. Listen in, take a breath, and remember: peace is allowed to come before love.
If you are in an activated state right now, this episode meets you where you are. You do not need to make decisions or figure anything out while you listen. The focus is on calming the body first, not fixing the behavior. Dr. Marianne guides you through simple, accessible grounding and nervous system regulation that can help reduce urgency without judgment or pressure. This episode is designed to be replayed during urge peaks and listened to in real time. Urges Are Signals, Not Commands Urges often show up when something feels overwhelming, unsafe, or out of control. This episode reframes urges as signals from the nervous system rather than failures or moral flaws. You will hear reminders that urges are learned responses meant to create relief, even when they no longer serve you. This compassionate perspective can help soften shame and create space for choice, even when the urge still feels loud. Support for Restricting, Bingeing, and Purging Urges Whether your urge is to restrict, binge, purge, compensate, avoid food, or delay eating, this episode centers safety and connection. It offers reassurance that you are not broken for having urges and that even small shifts in support can matter. This is a listen for one minute at a time. Five percent safer still counts. Listen When You Need Support Right Now You can return to this episode whenever urges spike. Let it keep you company. Let it remind you that this moment has edges and that you are not alone in it. If you need additional support beyond this episode, working with an eating disorder therapist can help you build more tools for navigating urges with care and compassion. Check out drmariannemiller.com for more resources. #EatingDisorderRecovery #UrgeSupport #NervousSystemRegulation
When ARFID is shaped by a PDA profile, eating challenges are not simply about sensory preferences, fear foods, or appetite. PDA, or a pervasive drive for autonomy, means the nervous system experiences demands as threats. Even gentle encouragement around eating can trigger shutdown, panic, or refusal. In this episode, Dr. Marianne Miller explains why PDA fundamentally changes how ARFID shows up and why traditional explanations often miss what is really happening beneath the surface. Food Refusal Is a Nervous System Safety Response Food refusal in PDA-driven ARFID is not defiance or manipulation. It is a protective response rooted in survival. When autonomy feels compromised, refusal becomes the fastest way to restore safety. This episode reframes refusal as communication and explores how control is not the goal, but a tool the nervous system uses to stay regulated. How Eating Becomes a Threat Instead of Nourishment For PDA nervous systems, eating can shift from a neutral or pleasurable act into a moment of danger. Being observed, reminded, praised, or monitored can turn food into a demand. Dr. Marianne breaks down how this happens in both children and adults with ARFID, and why eating often becomes harder the more support is applied. Case Examples of PDA and ARFID Across the Lifespan This episode includes clinical case examples that illustrate how PDA-driven ARFID can look very different on the surface while operating from the same nervous system logic. One example focuses on a child who eats until attention is placed on them. Another highlights an adult who deeply wants recovery but feels trapped by structured treatment approaches. These examples help clarify why motivation alone does not resolve PDA-related eating challenges. Why Traditional ARFID Treatment Often Fails PDA Nervous Systems Many standard ARFID interventions rely on structure, goals, exposure, and accountability. For PDA profiles, these tools can unintentionally increase threat and shutdown. Dr. Marianne explains why treatment plans that ignore autonomy often backfire and how mislabeling this response as resistance can cause harm. What Actually Supports PDA-Affirming ARFID Care Supportive care for PDA and ARFID prioritizes safety, consent, and flexibility. This does not mean removing all structure, but changing how structure functions. The episode explores what real choice looks like, why opt-out options matter, and how slowing down can create conditions where eating feels safer over time. A Neurodivergent-Affirming Reframe for Caregivers and Adults If ARFID has felt impossible to “fix,” this episode offers a compassionate reframe. PDA-driven eating challenges are not failures of willpower or commitment. They reflect a nervous system doing its best to survive. Understanding this opens the door to approaches that are more humane, effective, and sustainable. Related Episodes on ARFID and PDA ARFID Explained: What It Feels Like, Why It’s Misunderstood, & What Helps on Apple & Spotify. Why Sensory-Attuned Care Matters More Than Exposure in ARFID Treatment on Apple & Spotify. ARFID, PDA, and Autonomy: Why Pressure Makes Eating Harder on Apple & Spotify. Complexities of Treating ARFID: How a Neurodivergent-Affirming, Sensory-Attuned Approach Works on Apple & Spotify. Work With Dr. Marianne Miller Dr. Marianne Miller is a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in ARFID, binge eating disorder, and long-term eating disorder recovery. She offers therapy, consultation, and a virtual, self-paced ARFID course grounded in neurodivergent-affirming, sensory-attuned, trauma-informed care. Learn more at drmariannemiller.com
What if eating disorder recovery was not defined by a clean, linear arc, but by honesty, self-compassion, and forward movement even when setbacks happen? In this January 2026 conversation, Dr. Marianne Miller welcomes back journalist, author, and professor Mallary Tenore Tarpley, MFA, to reflect on how readers have responded to her book SLIP: Life in the Middle of Eating Disorder Recovery, and how the language of “slips” is quietly reshaping how people understand recovery. Mallary shares what has surprised her most since the book’s release, including the volume of messages from readers who finally feel seen in what she calls the “middle place,” the gray space between acute illness and full recovery. Many readers describe relief in having language for a recovery that is still in progress, one that allows for growth without demanding perfection. Throughout the conversation, Mallary and Dr. Marianne explore why slips are not evidence of failure, but often signs that someone is actively engaging in recovery. They unpack how shame around setbacks can cause slips to turn into longer slides, and how naming them openly can interrupt that cycle. This reframing is especially important in 2026, as diet culture and resolution-driven thinking continue to dominate January narratives around control, discipline, and self-improvement. Mallary also discusses how the “middle place” framework has resonated far beyond eating disorder communities. Readers have applied it to grief, addiction, chronic illness, and other long-term healing processes where vulnerability remains even as life becomes fuller. She reflects on the power of shared language in helping loved ones understand ongoing recovery, including parents and partners who may struggle to grasp why symptoms can persist for years. The episode also touches on under-discussed risks during life transitions, including pregnancy and postpartum experiences, where socially reinforced behaviors can quietly reawaken eating disorder patterns. Mallary explains why speaking openly about these realities helps both individuals and clinicians respond with more nuance and care. As the conversation turns toward the new year, Mallary offers a gentler way forward. Instead of setting rigid, all-or-nothing goals, she encourages curiosity, small steps, and values-based intentions that support recovery over time. Slips, she reminds us, can coexist with progress, and often do. This episode is for anyone who feels caught between wanting change and fearing it, for those exhausted by perfectionism, and for anyone who needs permission to keep moving forward without pretending to be “all better.” Follow Mallary on Instagram: @mallarytenoretarpley Learn more about her book: SLIP: Life in the Middle of Eating Disorder Recovery Check out another episode with Mallary on Apple or Spotify.
This brief guided episode is designed for moments when eating disorder recovery feels unsafe, overwhelming, or frightening. It is meant to be listened to when fear spikes, urges intensify, or doubt about recovery takes over. Rather than offering education or advice, this guided moment focuses on nervous system support. Dr. Marianne gently names why fear can surge when eating disorder behaviors loosen and why this response does not mean recovery is failing. The episode centers the experience of being in the middle of recovery, when the body is adjusting to change and searching for safety. Listeners are invited to pause, slow down, and orient to the present moment without needing to make decisions, take action, or push through discomfort. This guided listen affirms that fear during recovery often reflects protection, not weakness, and that safety can come alongside change. This episode can be replayed as often as needed. It is especially supportive for people in eating disorder recovery who experience panic, urgency, or nervous system overwhelm when behaviors begin to shift. Content Caution This episode discusses eating disorder recovery and fear responses. No weights, numbers, or specific behaviors are described. This is a gentle, non-instructional guided listen. How to Use This Episode This guided moment is best used during periods of heightened anxiety, uncertainty, or fear related to eating disorder recovery. Listeners may choose to listen while seated, lying down, or moving gently. There is no requirement to follow instructions or reach a particular outcome. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for adults in eating disorder recovery who feel unsafe when change begins, people experiencing recovery anxiety or fear of letting go, and anyone who needs nervous system support rather than information. It may also be helpful for clinicians and providers to share with clients during acute moments of distress. About Dr. Marianne Miller Dr. Marianne Miller is a licensed marriage and family therapist, eating disorder specialist, and host of the Dr. Marianne-Land podcast. Her work centers neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed, and liberation-focused approaches to eating disorder recovery. Dr. Marianne also offers a self-paced course on ARFID and selective eating designed to prioritize safety, autonomy, and nervous system care. Learn more at drmariannemiller.com.
Why does eating disorder recovery sometimes feel more frightening after change has already begun? In this solo episode, Dr. Marianne Miller explores a critical but rarely discussed phase of eating disorder recovery: the point where behaviors start to loosen, yet fear, panic, and urges intensify instead of easing. This episode reframes eating disorders not as irrational habits to eliminate, but as safety systems shaped by the nervous system. Dr. Marianne explains how restriction, binge eating, purging, rigidity, and food avoidance can reduce threat, create predictability, and manage sensory or emotional overwhelm. When those behaviors begin to shift, the body may respond with alarm, even when recovery is wanted. Rather than focusing on early recovery or long-term outcomes, this conversation stays inside the middle of recovery. The place where letting go feels destabilizing, progress triggers panic, and people begin to question whether healing is actually safe. Dr. Marianne unpacks why fear at this stage does not signal failure, lack of motivation, or resistance, but reflects survival-based nervous system logic. This episode also centers how neurodivergence, trauma histories, and intersectional oppression amplify fear during recovery. For autistic and ADHD individuals, transitions, loss of structure, and sensory changes can intensify nervous system activation. For people with chronic trauma or marginalized identities, eating disorder behaviors may have provided protection in a world that felt unsafe long before recovery began. Listeners will hear why the belief that “safety comes after behaviors stop” often backfires, and why scaffolding, autonomy, pacing, and compassion are essential when eating disorder behaviors start to loosen. This episode is especially relevant for adults with long-term eating disorders, people feeling stuck in recovery, and clinicians seeking trauma-informed, neurodivergent-affirming approaches to eating disorder treatment. Content Caution This episode discusses eating disorders, recovery-related fear, and nervous system responses to change. No weights, numbers, or explicit behavioral instructions are included. Listener discretion is advised. What This Episode Covers Dr. Marianne discusses eating disorders as safety systems, fear of recovery, anxiety during eating disorder treatment, and why symptom spikes often occur after progress begins. The episode explores the role of the nervous system, trauma, neurodivergence, and intersectionality in eating disorder recovery, and explains why grief, panic, and doubt can emerge when behaviors that once felt protective start to loosen. This conversation also highlights why safety, autonomy, and nervous system support must come alongside behavior change, not after it. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for adults with eating disorders who feel afraid to let go of behaviors, people experiencing recovery anxiety or fear of change, and anyone who feels stuck in the middle of eating disorder recovery. It is also for therapists, providers, and caregivers who want to better understand why eating disorder behaviors can feel necessary, and why fear does not mean someone is failing at recovery. Related Episode An Open Letter to the Body: Listening to the Part That Fears Getting Better on Apple and Spotify. About Dr. Marianne Miller Dr. Marianne Miller is a licensed marriage and family therapist and eating disorder specialist offering therapy, consultation, and education rooted in neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed, and liberation-focused care. She is the host of the Dr. Marianne-Land podcast and the creator of a self-paced course on ARFID and selective eating for adults and providers. Learn more at drmariannemiller.com.
What does a low heart rate really mean in athletes? When is it a normal adaptation to training, and when is it a sign that something is medically wrong? In this interview, Dr. Marianne Miller speaks with Megan Hellner, RD and Katherine Hill, MD, co-founders of AthleatMD, about one of the most misunderstood issues in athlete health. Together, they unpack how low heart rate, underfueling, and performance pressure can intersect in ways that are often minimized or missed entirely in both sports medicine and eating disorder care. Content Caution This episode includes discussion of eating disorders, Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (REDS), medical instability, low heart rate, weight loss, body image pressure, and athletic injury. Listener discretion is encouraged. What Is Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (REDS)? Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport occurs when an athlete’s energy intake does not meet the demands of training, daily functioning, and, for young athletes, growth and development. Dr. Hill explains that REDS can occur with or without an eating disorder and that many athletes develop REDS unintentionally due to intense schedules, high training loads, or lack of accurate nutrition guidance. Although REDS is a relatively new diagnostic framework, its medical consequences are not new. Energy deficiency affects nearly every system in the body, including the heart, bones, hormones, digestion, immune function, and mental health. Importantly, many athletes with REDS do not appear thin, which contributes to how frequently the condition is overlooked. Low Heart Rate in Athletes: Fitness or Medical Red Flag? A low resting heart rate is often praised as evidence of elite fitness, yet this episode challenges that assumption. Dr. Hill and Dr. Hellner explain the difference between mild athletic bradycardia and dangerous cardiac suppression related to undernutrition. They discuss why heart rates in the low 40s or 30s should never be automatically dismissed as “normal for athletes,” particularly when fatigue, injury, missed periods, or hormonal suppression are present. The conversation highlights how REDS and malnutrition can compound athletic adaptations, leading to serious medical risk while athletes are reassured that nothing is wrong. Where Eating Disorder Care and Sports Medicine Fall Short Athletes often exist in a gray area where eating disorder treatment programs and sports medicine settings fail to fully meet their needs. Drs. Hellner and Hill describe how eating disorder programs may underestimate the importance of athletic identity, while sports environments frequently minimize eating disorders and REDS altogether. This disconnect can result in rigid activity bans, delayed diagnosis, or false reassurance that prolongs harm. The episode emphasizes the need for individualized, multidisciplinary decision-making that considers medical stability, psychological safety, and the athlete’s relationship with sport. Body Image Pressure and the Athletic Aesthetic Myth The conversation also explores how appearance-based expectations shape athlete health. Dr. Hellner introduces the concept of the athletic aesthetic myth, which falsely assumes that performance requires a specific body type. Dr. Marianne and her guests discuss how coaching culture, social media trends, and gendered body ideals increase risk for REDS and disordered eating. They also highlight the growing visibility of elite athletes across a wide range of body sizes, challenging the belief that leanness equals success. How AthleatMD Supports Athletes With REDS and Eating Disorders AthleatMD provides virtual medical and nutrition care for athletes across many states, serving competitive, recreational, and former athletes. Dr. Hellner explains how assessment focuses on weight history, growth patterns, labs, training load, injury history, and relationship with food and sport, without assuming intentional restriction. Treatment centers on nutrition restoration, medical stabilization, and education, with approaches tailored to the athlete’s sport, goals, and developmental stage. For many athletes, restoring adequate energy intake improves both health and performance in ways they did not expect. Who This Episode Is For This episode is especially relevant for athletes experiencing fatigue, injury, or declining performance, as well as parents of young athletes, coaches, therapists, dietitians, and medical providers. It is also an important listen for anyone questioning whether “fit” always means healthy in sport. Related Episode Eating Disorders & Athletes: The Pressure to Perform on Apple & Spotify. About Today’s Guests Dr. Megan Hellner and Dr. Katherine Hill are the co-founders of AthleatMD (@athleatmd), a virtual, multidisciplinary practice specializing in medical and nutrition care for athletes with eating disorders and Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (REDS). Their work focuses on bridging the long-standing gap between sports performance and eating disorder treatment. About the Host Dr. Marianne Miller is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and the host of Dr. Marianne-Land: An Eating Disorder Recovery Podcast. She provides neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed care for eating disorders, including anorexia, bulimia, binge eating disorder, and ARFID, and works with clients in California, Texas, and Washington, D.C. Learn more about working with Dr. Marianne and explore her courses and podcast at drmariannemiller.com.
Why do some eating disorders continue for years or even decades, despite treatment, effort, and a strong desire for change? Long-standing eating disorders are often misunderstood as personal failure or lack of motivation. In reality, persistence usually reflects unmet needs, nervous system strain, and environments that have not supported safety or regulation. What “Chronic” Really Means in Eating Disorder Care In clinical settings, the term chronic simply means persistent over time. It does not mean static, untreatable, or hopeless. Many people with chronic eating disorders experience periods of stability, partial recovery, or symptom shifts rather than full resolution. Progress often occurs in layers rather than in a straight line. Chronic eating disorders appear across diagnoses, including anorexia, bulimia, binge eating disorder, ARFID, and mixed presentations. What matters most is not the duration of symptoms, but the function those symptoms continue to serve. Eating Disorders as Nervous System Survival Strategies Eating disorder behaviors frequently operate as survival responses. They may regulate anxiety, reduce sensory overwhelm, create predictability, or provide relief from emotional distress. When behaviors serve a regulatory purpose, stopping them without replacing that function can feel destabilizing rather than healing. Persistence is rarely about effort. Many people with long-term eating disorders have engaged in extensive treatment and tried multiple approaches. Without safety, the nervous system will continue to rely on familiar strategies. Trauma, Chronic Stress, and Ongoing Threat Long-standing eating disorders often develop in the context of trauma that never fully resolved. Ongoing stressors such as medical trauma, anti-fat bias, racism, ableism, financial insecurity, chronic illness, or identity-based harm can keep the nervous system in survival mode. When threat remains present, recovery models that assume safety already exists often fall short. In these environments, eating disorder behaviors may remain necessary for coping. Neurodivergence and Unmet Support Needs Neurodivergent people experience chronic eating disorders at high rates, yet are frequently underserved by standard treatment models. Sensory sensitivities, executive functioning challenges, and interoceptive differences can make eating overwhelming in ways traditional care does not address. Without accommodation, eating disorder behaviors may persist because they reduce sensory or cognitive overload. Recovery requires adapting care to the person, not forcing the person to adapt to the model. Autonomy, Power, and Control in Recovery Eating disorders often become closely tied to autonomy, especially for people who have experienced chronic control or invalidation. Decisions about food can feel like the last remaining area of choice. When treatment removes autonomy without rebuilding agency, symptoms often intensify. Collaborative, consent-based care that honors choice can create safer conditions for change. What Actually Supports Long-Term Change Sustainable change in chronic eating disorders is built through safety, curiosity, and flexibility. Emotional, sensory, and relational safety allow the nervous system to shift. Curiosity replaces judgment by asking what the eating disorder provides rather than focusing only on stopping it. Accommodation, harm reduction, and connection play central roles. Reducing risk, improving quality of life, and supporting nourishment without demanding perfection create space for gradual change. Rethinking Recovery for Chronic Eating Disorders Recovery does not need to mean the complete absence of symptoms to be meaningful. Increased flexibility, reduced fear, fewer medical crises, and a fuller life matter. Chronic eating disorders reflect complexity, not hopelessness. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for people living with chronic eating disorders, providers working with long-term or complex cases, and anyone seeking a trauma-informed, neurodivergent-affirming perspective on eating disorder recovery. Content Caution Discussion includes eating disorder behaviors, long-term symptoms, trauma, and systemic barriers to care. Related Episodes Relapse in Long-Term Eating Disorders on Apple & Spotify. Orthorexia, Quasi-Recovery, & Lifelong Eating Disorder Struggles with Dr. Lara Zibarras @drlarazib on Apple & Spotify. Navigating a Long-Term Eating Disorder on Apple & Spotify. Why Eating Disorder Recovery Feels Unsafe: Facing Ambivalence in Long-Term Struggles on Apple & Spotify. Perfectionism, People-Pleasing, & Body Image: Self-Compassion Tools for Long-Term Eating Disorder Recovery With Carrie Pollard, MSW @compassionate_counsellor on Apple & Spotify. Learn More Explore neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed resources for eating challenges at drmariannemiller.com.
Why does eating sometimes feel distant, foggy, or unreal? Why do meals happen on autopilot, with little connection to hunger, fullness, or satisfaction? In this solo episode, Dr. Marianne Miller explores the often overlooked role of dissociation in eating disorders, especially when trauma and nervous system overwhelm are present. Many people experience eating as disconnected or numb, yet rarely receive language or support that explains why this happens. This episode breaks down how dissociation functions as a survival response, not a failure of recovery. Dr. Marianne explains how trauma, chronic stress, and loss of bodily autonomy can shape the nervous system and disrupt interoceptive awareness, making it difficult to sense hunger, fullness, and internal cues. Listeners will learn how dissociation connects to common eating disorder patterns such as restriction, binge eating, and rigid routines. Rather than viewing these behaviors as resistance or lack of motivation, this episode reframes them as nervous system strategies designed to manage overwhelm and threat. Dr. Marianne also centers neurodivergent experiences, including sensory processing differences and shutdown responses that often get missed in traditional eating disorder treatment. She explains why pressure-based approaches frequently fail neurodivergent people and why safety, accommodation, and choice are essential when eating feels unreal. This episode offers a trauma informed, neurodivergent affirming perspective on recovery, emphasizing that healing does not come from forcing embodiment. Instead, recovery unfolds when the nervous system learns that eating can be safe again. In this episode, you will hear about: Dissociation and eating disorders Trauma and nervous system responses around food Why eating can feel unreal or disconnected Interoception and disrupted hunger and fullness cues Neurodivergence, sensory overwhelm, and eating challenges Why traditional eating disorder treatment often misses dissociation What actually supports recovery when eating feels unreal Midway through the episode, Dr. Marianne shares more about her self-paced ARFID and Selective Eating course, designed for people whose eating struggles are shaped by sensory differences, trauma, and nervous system needs. Related Episodes How Childhood Trauma Shapes Eating Disorders & Body Shame (Content Caution) on Apple & Spotify. Childhood Trauma & Eating Disorders on Apple & Spotify. Using EMDR & Polyvagal Theory to Treat Trauma & Eating Disorders with Dr. Danielle Hiestand, LMFT, CEDS-S on Apple & Spotify. Trauma, Eating Disorders, & Levels of Care with Amy Ornelas, RD via Apple or Spotify. Content Caution This episode includes discussion of eating disorders, trauma, dissociation, sensory overwhelm, and nervous system responses around food. Although no specific behaviors or numbers are described, some listeners may find these topics activating. Please take care of yourself and listen in a way that feels supportive. This episode is for anyone who has felt confused, frustrated, or unseen in eating disorder recovery and wants a framework that finally makes sense.
What changes when an eating disorder has been part of someone’s life for 10, 20, 30, even 40+ years? In this conversation, I’m joined again by my friend and longtime collaborator Jaren Soloff, RD, IBCLC, the founder of Whole Women Nutrition. Together, we talk about why nutrition work looks different in long-term eating disorders, and why the starting point is almost always the same: safety. Jaren shares how decades of reinforcement can make symptoms look “functional” on the surface, while the eating disorder quietly shapes identity, routines, and self-worth. We explore the common pattern of minimizing, the fear that can spike when restriction loosens, and the tender reality that for many people, the eating disorder has served as protection, especially in the context of criticism, attachment wounds, body-based judgment, and the impossible standards placed on women across the lifespan. We also get practical. Jaren walks through what it can look like to make food feel safer through small, doable steps, including DBT-informed tools, sensory supports, and intentionally planned “after-meal” structure that helps the nervous system ride out discomfort without snapping back to restriction. If breakfast feels impossible, or discomfort after eating feels like a dealbreaker, this episode offers compassionate, concrete ways to build tolerance and trust, slowly and steadily. Finally, we talk about the midlife reality so many people face: body changes through perimenopause and menopause, and the way those changes can collide with long-standing eating disorder beliefs. Jaren explains why metabolism may shift with long-term restriction and aging, how loss of lean muscle mass can affect energy needs and health, and why increased fat storage in midlife can be an adaptive, protective process for bone health. We also name the risks of GLP-1 medications for people with eating disorders, including concerns about appetite suppression and the potential for additional lean muscle loss, especially for women in perimenopause and menopause. If you have felt “broken” because your body doesn’t respond the way it once did, or if you’ve carried an eating disorder for decades and wonder whether change is still possible, this conversation offers a grounded, compassionate path forward. You deserve care that moves at your pace, and support that treats safety as the foundation, not an afterthought. In this episode, we cover We discuss why long-term eating disorders require a different nutrition framework, how safety often sits at the center of recovery work, and why minimizing can keep patterns in place even when someone appears to be “functioning.” We talk about learning to tolerate discomfort after eating, building self-soothing skills, and using DBT-informed, sensory-based strategies to create new neural pathways. We explore perimenopause and menopause, including changes in estrogen, lean muscle mass, metabolism, and body fat distribution, and we name how ageism and sexism shape body fear in midlife. We also discuss GLP-1 medications and why they can be especially risky in the context of eating disorders. About Jaren Soloff, RD, IBCLC Jaren Soloff is a registered dietitian and international board-certified lactation consultant. She is the founder of Whole Women Nutrition, where she provides nutrition counseling and lactation support for adolescent girls and adult women, and supports families in raising competent, intuitive eaters. Jaren brings both professional experience and the wisdom of her own recovery journey to her work, with a steady emphasis on compassion, collaboration, and safety. Related Episodes Orthorexia, Quasi-Recovery, & Lifelong Eating Disorder Struggles with Dr. Lara Zibarras @drlarazib on Apple & Spotify. Navigating a Long-Term Eating Disorder on Apple & Spotify. Why Eating Disorder Recovery Feels Unsafe: Facing Ambivalence in Long-Term Struggles on Apple & Spotify. Pregnancy, Postpartum, and Eating Disorder Recovery With Jaren Soloff, RD on Apple and Spotify. Connect with Jaren Website: WholeWomenNutrition.com Instagram: @wholewomennutrition
Anorexia does not disappear with age, and midlife is often when its deeper pain becomes impossible to ignore. In this solo episode, Dr. Marianne Miller explores why anorexia can resurface or intensify in midlife, especially when long-standing coping strategies stop working and the nervous system reaches its limits. This conversation names what so many people experience quietly: hormonal shifts, burnout, identity changes, and unprocessed trauma colliding with a culture that continues to demand shrinking, control, and silence. Dr. Marianne unpacks how perimenopause, menopause, chronic stress, and cumulative life demands can destabilize eating patterns that once felt manageable. She explains why restriction is not about willpower or vanity, but about protection, regulation, and survival, particularly for those who have lived for decades navigating pressure, responsibility, and internalized expectations. The episode also explores how midlife can awaken old wounds related to body, gender, sexuality, safety, and belonging, making anorexia feel like a familiar refuge during times of upheaval. This episode centers the emotional logic of midlife anorexia and highlights how neurodivergence, sensory processing differences, and reduced masking capacity can further complicate eating and recovery later in life. Dr. Marianne offers a compassionate reframe of what healing can look like in midlife, emphasizing nervous system support, steadiness over control, truth-telling, and sustainable care rather than rigid recovery ideals. Listeners will hear a vision of recovery that does not ask people to go back to who they were, but instead supports becoming someone who no longer needs old coping strategies to feel safe. This episode speaks directly to adults navigating long-term or chronic anorexia, relapse in midlife, and the quiet grief that can surface during major life transitions. It is also a vital listen for providers seeking a more humane, trauma-informed, and neurodivergent-affirming understanding of eating disorders across the lifespan. Dr. Marianne closes by reminding listeners that midlife can be a turning point not because of force or discipline, but because deeper understanding becomes possible. Recovery at this stage can mean honoring the body’s needs, allowing rest, naming pain that was carried alone, and receiving support that fits one’s lived experience. If this episode resonated, you are invited to explore therapy with Dr. Marianne Miller, who offers specialized support for people navigating anorexia, chronic restriction, ARFID, and eating disorders shaped by trauma and neurodivergence. Go to drmariannemiller.com for resources and help.
Have you ever wondered whether your eating disorder behaviors have shifted from coping and self-regulation into self-harm? In this solo episode, Dr. Marianne Miller explores the overlap between eating disorders and self-harm and explains how eating disorder behaviors can gradually become harmful even when they begin as attempts to cope. She examines eating disorder recovery through a trauma-informed, neurodivergent-affirming, and liberation-focused lens and offers clarity without shame or blame. WHAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE Dr. Marianne explains how eating disorders can function as self-harm and how trauma, dissociation, sensory overwhelm, and chronic stress shape eating disorder behaviors. She discusses neurodivergence and eating disorders, including how autistic and ADHD individuals may rely on eating patterns for regulation. She explores common self-harm behaviors that often co-occur with eating disorders, including cutting, scratching, burning, and other forms of injury, and explains the shared emotional logic behind these behaviors. She clarifies the difference between self-regulation and self-harm and explains how eating disorder behaviors can shift between these roles over time. She outlines how to recognize when an eating disorder moves from regulation into harm by identifying warning signs such as rigidity, shame, dissociation, physical consequences, and isolation. She also describes what breaking the cycle can look like by focusing on safety, agency, and flexible coping rather than punishment or control. THIS EPISODE MAY RESONATE WITH YOU IF You question whether your eating disorder behaviors feel punishing or unsafe. You live with a long-term or chronic eating disorder. You experience self-harm urges alongside an eating disorder. You identify as neurodivergent and struggle with sensory or interoceptive overwhelm. You want a trauma-informed, non-shaming approach to eating disorder recovery. KEY TOPICS This episode explores eating disorders and self-harm, eating disorder recovery, self-harm behaviors and eating disorders, trauma and eating disorders, neurodivergence and eating disorders, dissociation and eating disorders, restriction and binge eating, ARFID and sensory overwhelm, building safety in eating disorder recovery, and trauma-informed eating disorder therapy. CONTENT CAUTION This episode includes discussion of self-harm, including cutting and other forms of injury, eating disorders, trauma, dissociation, and suicidal thinking. Please listen with care and take breaks as needed. RELATED EPISODES Autism & Anorexia: When Masking Looks Like Restriction, & Recovery Feels Unsafe via Apple & Spotify. Recovering Again: Navigating Eating Disorders After a Late Neurodivergent Diagnosis (Part 1) With Stacie Fanelli, LCSW @edadhd_therapist via Apple & Spotify. Minding the Gap: The Intersection Between AuDHD & Eating Disorders With Stacie Fanelli, LCSW @edadhd_therapist via Apple & Spotify ABOUT DR. MARIANNE Dr. Marianne Miller is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in eating disorders, including ARFID, binge eating disorder, anorexia, and long-term eating disorder patterns. She takes a neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed, and liberation-focused approach and hosts the Dr. Marianne-Land podcast. WORK WITH DR. MARIANNE Dr. Marianne offers eating disorder therapy in California, Texas, and Washington DC, and provides coaching worldwide. Learn more at drmariannemiller.com.
In this episode of Dr. Marianne-Land, I speak with fat activist, TEDx speaker, author, DEI expert, and podcast host Vinny Welsby (they/them) about anti-fat bias in healthcare, weight stigma in medicine, and the real-world harm fat patients experience when seeking medical care. Vinny, who shares extensively about fat liberation, weight-inclusive care, and dismantling diet culture on Instagram at @fierce.fatty, brings both lived experience and data into this conversation. This episode centers on Vinny’s survey of 270 fat people, in which 99.25% reported experiencing weight-based discrimination in healthcare. These findings expose how common medical weight stigma, anti-fatness, and provider bias truly are, and why so many fat people delay or avoid healthcare altogether. Weight Stigma in Healthcare: Survey Data and Lived Experience We break down what those survey results actually mean for patients. Vinny shares stories of medical dismissal, misdiagnosis, delayed treatment, and humiliation in healthcare settings, including being told to lose weight instead of receiving appropriate medical evaluation. We discuss how weight stigma shows up through provider assumptions, lack of size-inclusive equipment, routine weighing without consent, and dismissive or dehumanizing language. This section highlights how anti-fat bias in healthcare leads to worse physical health outcomes, increased medical trauma, and deep mistrust of medical systems. Medical Trauma, Nervous System Effects, and Avoiding Care We explore how repeated experiences of weight stigma activate the nervous system and create medical trauma. Even scheduling an appointment can trigger fear, shame, and exhaustion. Vinny and I talk about how this chronic stress contributes to people avoiding preventive care, delaying diagnosis, and experiencing worsening health conditions as a result. This conversation connects anti-fat bias, mental health, eating disorders, and healthcare avoidance, naming how the system often blames fat bodies for the very harm it causes. Intersectionality: Fatness, Gender, Queerness, and Neurodivergence A major focus of this episode is intersectionality. Vinny shares how anti-fatness intersected with being trans, nonbinary, queer, neurodivergent, and disabled, and how shame around body size limited access to identity exploration and self-expression. We talk about how weight stigma compounds oppression, especially for people with multiple marginalized identities. We also discuss how white privilege can reduce some harms while never eliminating weight-based discrimination, and why weight-inclusive healthcare must address racism, transphobia, ableism, and fatphobia together. What Weight-Inclusive Healthcare Actually Requires We challenge the idea that good intentions equal good care. This section explores what weight-inclusive healthcare truly requires, including provider education, consent-based weighing, size-inclusive furniture and equipment, respectful language, and accountability when harm occurs. We discuss why many providers believe they are weight-inclusive while continuing to practice weight-centered and stigmatizing care. Unlearning Anti-Fatness, Shame, and Diet Culture We close with guidance for beginning the process of unlearning anti-fatness. Vinny shares how shame thrives in isolation and how bringing it into the light reduces its power. We discuss diet culture, binary thinking, and how critical thinking helps people question harmful beliefs about weight, health, morality, and worth. This episode invites listeners to ask who benefits when people are taught to hate their bodies, and how compassion, curiosity, and community support healing. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for fat people, eating disorder survivors, clinicians, healthcare providers, and anyone who wants to understand how weight stigma in healthcare causes harm and what needs to change. About My Guest: Vinny Welsby (They/Them) Vinny Welsby is a fat activist, DEI leader, TEDx speaker, bestselling author of Fierce Fatty, and host of the Fierce Fatty Podcast. They work with individuals through Fierce Fatty and with organizations through Weight Inclusive Consulting, providing education and training on dismantling anti-fat bias in healthcare and beyond. You can find Vinny at fiercefatty.com and on Instagram at @fierce.fatty. Related Episodes When Doctors Harm: Medical Weight Stigma & Eating Disorders on Apple & Spotify. Having Anorexia in a Larger Body: Navigating Medical Anti-Fat Bias & Lack of Care with Sharon Maxwell @heysharonmaxwell on Apple & Spotify. Content Caution This episode includes discussion of medical trauma, weight stigma, eating disorders, healthcare discrimination, and systemic oppression. The harm described in this episode is real, widespread, and systemic.
In this solo episode of Dr. Marianne Land, Dr. Marianne Miller explores one of the most overlooked drivers of Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, or ARFID: the powerful intersection of autonomy and sensory needs. This episode unpacks why pressure based approaches consistently fail people with ARFID and how choice, consent, and nervous system safety create real pathways toward healing. Rather than framing ARFID as defiance or avoidance, this conversation centers ARFID as a protective response rooted in sensory overwhelm and a deep need for bodily autonomy. Why Autonomy Matters in ARFID For many neurodivergent people, autonomy is not optional. It is a core safety requirement. Dr. Marianne explains how pressure around food activates threat responses in the nervous system, often leading to shutdown, panic, or increased food avoidance. When autonomy gets removed through medical pressure, family conflict, or exposure approaches that override consent, ARFID symptoms often intensify. This episode reframes autonomy not as resistance, but as a stabilizing force that helps people survive overwhelming eating environments. Sensory Processing and Nervous System Safety Sensory sensitivity plays a central role in ARFID. Texture, smell, temperature, and unpredictability can trigger immediate nervous system distress. In this episode, Dr. Marianne explains how these sensory reactions are involuntary and protective, not behavioral choices. Safe foods become anchors that help regulate the nervous system, and honoring sensory needs becomes essential for sustainable eating disorder recovery. When sensory experiences are respected, the body no longer needs to protect itself through restriction. Why Pressure Fails and Choice Heals Pressure based interventions often backfire in ARFID treatment. Dr. Marianne explores how even well-intentioned encouragement can teach the nervous system that eating is unsafe. Pressure increases fear, deepens avoidance, and damages trust. In contrast, choice restores safety. When people with ARFID control the pace, timing, and nature of food exploration, curiosity becomes possible. Choice supports regulation, builds self-trust, and creates space for gentle expansion without retraumatization. A Neurodivergent-Affirming Approach to ARFID Recovery This episode highlights what ARFID care can look like when it centers consent, collaboration, and sensory attunement. Dr. Marianne discusses how liberation-centered treatment prioritizes nervous system regulation over compliance, honors lived experience, and rejects one-size-fits-all exposure models. Recovery becomes sustainable when dignity, agency, and sensory truth guide the process. Intersectionality, Identity, and Autonomy Autonomy carries different weight depending on lived experience. Dr. Marianne addresses how fat individuals, disabled individuals, neurodivergent people, and those with chronic illness often experience repeated violations of autonomy in medical and social settings. For many, eating becomes another site of control and harm. This episode situates ARFID within broader systems of stigma and explains why restoring autonomy is especially critical for people with marginalized identities. Who This Episode Is For This episode is for anyone living with ARFID, supporting someone with ARFID, or working professionally with eating disorders and neurodivergence. It is especially relevant for listeners who have felt harmed by pressure based treatment, misunderstood by providers, or blamed for sensory needs they cannot control. Related Episodes on ARFID ARFID Explained: What It Feels Like, Why It’s Misunderstood, & What Helps on Apple & Spotify. Why Sensory-Attuned Care Matters More Than Exposure in ARFID Treatment on Apple & Spotify. ARFID, PDA, and Autonomy: Why Pressure Makes Eating Harder on Apple & Spotify. Complexities of Treating ARFID: How a Neurodivergent-Affirming, Sensory-Attuned Approach Works on Apple & Spotify. Listen and Learn More If ARFID has shaped your relationship with food, your body, or your sense of safety, this episode offers a validating and science-informed perspective. To learn more about Dr. Marianne’s virtual, self-paced ARFID and Selective Eating Course or to explore therapy and educational resources, visit her website drmariannemiller.com.
Chewing and spitting is an eating disorder behavior that often remains hidden due to intense shame and misunderstanding. Many people do not know how to talk about it, and many providers never ask. In this solo episode, Dr. Marianne Miller offers a clear, compassionate explanation of chewing and spitting in eating disorders, naming why this behavior develops and why it deserves nuanced care rather than judgment. This episode centers eating disorder recovery, ARFID, neurodivergent sensory experiences with food, and the nervous system roots of eating behaviors that are often moralized or overlooked. Why Chewing and Spitting Is So Often Misunderstood Chewing and spitting is frequently framed as a single behavior with a single cause. This narrow understanding creates harm. When providers assume chewing and spitting always reflects restriction or compensatory behavior, people with ARFID and sensory-based eating challenges are misdiagnosed or pressured into unsafe treatment. When providers minimize chewing and spitting in restrictive eating disorders, people lose access to support at moments of increasing distress. This episode explains why chewing and spitting must be understood through multiple pathways to ensure accurate diagnosis and ethical care. Pathway One: Chewing and Spitting in Restrictive and Compensatory Eating Disorders In restrictive or compensatory eating disorders, chewing and spitting often functions as a way to avoid swallowing food while still experiencing taste. It may emerge during periods of significant restriction, intense hunger, or fear of weight gain. Some people use chewing and spitting to interrupt binge urges or as a purge-adjacent behavior. In this pathway, the behavior reflects deprivation, internal conflict, and rising eating disorder severity. Shame, secrecy, and fear of judgment frequently follow, making it harder for individuals to seek support or speak openly about what they are experiencing. Pathway Two: Chewing and Spitting in ARFID and Neurodivergent Sensory-Based Eating Chewing and spitting can also emerge in ARFID and neurodivergent sensory-based eating for reasons entirely unrelated to weight or dieting. In this pathway, the behavior reflects sensory overwhelm, swallowing discomfort, texture sensitivity, interoceptive differences, or nervous system safety needs. Autistic and ADHD individuals may chew food to explore taste while spitting to avoid gagging, panic, or sensory overload. When this pathway is misunderstood as compensatory eating disorder behavior, people often feel pathologized rather than supported. This episode explains how sensory wiring, disability, and safety needs shape this experience. Why Differentiating These Two Pathways Matters in Recovery Accurately identifying the function of chewing and spitting is essential for healing. Restrictive and compensatory pathways require approaches that address deprivation, shame, trauma, and rigid food rules. Sensory-based pathways require approaches that build safety, honor autonomy, and work with the nervous system rather than against it. Dr. Marianne explains why a one-size-fits-all model fails and how differentiation creates clarity, trust, and more sustainable eating disorder recovery. Intersectionality, Bias, and Systemic Harm This episode also explores how anti-fat bias, racism, ableism, and medical bias shape who receives care and who gets believed. People in larger bodies often experience intense pressure to restrict, which can intensify chewing and spitting behaviors. People of color frequently face delayed or missed eating disorder diagnoses. Neurodivergent individuals are often misunderstood or dismissed when their eating challenges are sensory-based. Understanding chewing and spitting requires naming these systemic harms rather than blaming individuals. A Compassionate Path Forward Chewing and spitting is not a moral failure or a sign of weakness. It is a behavior rooted in nervous system responses, lived experience, and survival. This episode offers language, validation, and clarity for anyone who has struggled with chewing and spitting, supported someone who has, or wants a more nuanced understanding of eating disorders and ARFID. Healing begins with understanding, safety, and compassion. About Dr. Marianne Miller Dr. Marianne Miller is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in eating disorder recovery, ARFID, binge eating, and neurodivergent-affirming therapy. She offers therapy for individuals in California, Texas, and Washington D.C., and teaches the self-paced, virtual ARFID and Selective Eating Course.
Exercise is often framed as self-care, discipline, or proof that someone is “doing the right thing.” But for many people, exercise becomes tangled with shame, control, and self-worth. In this interview, Dr. Marianne Miller sits down with Dr. Lisa Folden, a weight-inclusive physical therapist and Health at Every Size ambassador, to explore how exercise shamefuels body image distress and disordered eating, even when it is disguised as wellness or health. Dr. Lisa shares her personal journey from overexercising, restriction, and rigid fitness rules to intuitive movement rooted in care rather than punishment. Together, they unpack how fitness culture, purity culture, and appearance-based health messaging teach people to judge their bodies and measure their worth through movement, weight, and discipline. This conversation reframes eating disorder recovery through a compassionate, weight-inclusive lens that separates exercise from morality and control. This episode is especially relevant for anyone struggling with eating disorders, chronic disordered eating, exercise guilt, or a painful relationship with movement. Content Caution This episode includes discussion of eating disorders, disordered eating behaviors, food restriction, binge eating patterns, overexercising, body image distress, weight stigma, and shame-based health messaging. Please listen in a way that feels supportive to you. Episode Overview In this conversation, Dr. Marianne and Dr. Lisa explore how exercise shame develops and why it is so deeply connected to body image and eating disorder recovery. Dr. Lisa explains how early experiences with discipline, structure, and purity culture shaped her relationship with food and exercise, reinforcing the belief that bodies must be controlled to be worthy. They discuss how fitness spaces often reward pain, consistency, and weight loss while ignoring mental health, accessibility, and individual needs. The episode also examines how intuitive movement becomes possible when exercise is no longer used to fix or punish the body. Dr. Lisa describes what shifted when she stopped exercising to change her body and began moving in ways that supported her nervous system, energy, and overall well-being. The conversation highlights how ableism and body size bias show up in gyms and wellness spaces, often through subtle judgments about who “belongs” and how bodies should move. Throughout the episode, Dr. Lisa emphasizes that exercise does not determine character and that body image healing requires separating movement from shame, worth, and identity. This reframing is central to sustainable eating disorder recovery and long-term healing. Why This Episode Matters Many people in eating disorder recovery were taught that exercising consistently meant they were good, disciplined, or successful, while rest or inconsistency meant failure. This episode challenges those beliefs and offers a more humane, evidence-informed approach to movement and self-care. It speaks directly to listeners who feel stuck in cycles of overexercising, restriction, binge eating, or chronic guilt around movement, and offers permission to relate to exercise in a way that supports healing rather than harm. About Dr. Lisa Folden Dr. Lisa Folden is a North Carolina–licensed physical therapist, NASM-certified behavior change specialist, and anti-diet, weight-inclusive coach. She is the owner of Healthy Phit Physical Therapy and Wellness Consultants and a Health at Every Size ambassador. Her work focuses on helping people heal their relationship with movement, body image, and food, particularly in the context of eating disorder recovery. She is also a writer, speaker, and mother of three. You can follow Dr. Lisa on Instagram at @healthyphit and read her writing on Substack at DrLisaFolden. Related Episodes --Breaking Up With Diet Culture with Dr. Lisa via Apple or Spotify. --Moralization of Exercise, Eating, & Body Size With Dr. Lisa via Apple or Spotify. About the Host Dr. Marianne Miller is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and eating disorder specialist offering neurodivergent-affirming, trauma-informed support for binge eating disorder, ARFID, anorexia, bulimia, and long-term eating disorders. She hosts Dr. Marianne-Land: An Eating Disorder Recovery Podcast and provides therapy, education, and self-paced recovery programs. Check out her website at drmariannemiller.com or her Instagram @drmariannemiller. Listen Now If exercise has ever felt like punishment, obligation, or proof of worth, this episode offers a different path forward grounded in compassion, autonomy, and care.
In this solo episode, Dr. Marianne explores how autism shapes eating in ways that many providers overlook. Sensory needs, interoception, routines, and safety all influence how autistic people navigate food. Instead of seeing these challenges as resistance, Dr. Marianne reframes them as intelligent body signals that protect a sensitive nervous system. Dr. Marianne explains why autistic eating experiences often get misunderstood. She discusses how overwhelming textures, smells, and sounds affect tolerance for certain foods, how interoceptive confusion can disrupt hunger cues, and how predictability reduces chaos during meals. She also explores the deep need for safety and how early food trauma can lead to long-lasting protective patterns. This episode highlights how autistic people may develop ARFID due to sensory overload, fear, or confusion around internal cues. Dr. Marianne emphasizes the need for neurodivergent affirming care that respects autonomy, consent, and the right to eat in ways that support comfort rather than compliance. Dr. Marianne also examines intersectionality. Autistic people of color, LGBTQIA+ autistic people, and disabled autistic people often face additional barriers to care and experience higher rates of dismissal. Understanding these intersections helps us provide real support. Throughout the episode, Dr. Marianne offers a compassionate framework for supporting autistic eating. She centers curiosity, sensory awareness, co-regulation, predictable routines, and respect for safe foods. She encourages listeners to trust their bodies and seek environments that reduce overwhelm instead of increasing it. Key Topics Covered Sensory Needs and Autistic Eating How texture, smell, sound, and temperature influence food tolerance and how sensory overwhelm shapes avoidance patterns. Interoception and Hunger Cues Why autistic people often experience muted or confusing hunger cues and how supportive routines help. Predictability and Routine Why sameness offers safety during meals and how routine helps regulate the nervous system. Safety and Eating Trauma The long-term effects of force feeding, pressure, and food shame and how safety becomes essential for healing. Autism and ARFID How ARFID develops in autistic people and why care must support autonomy, sensory comfort, and consent. Intersectionality and Access to Care How race, gender, sexuality, class, and disability shape autistic eating experiences and influence the support people receive. Compassionate Support Strategies How validation, sensory awareness, predictable rhythms, and co-regulation improve access to nourishment. Content Caution In this episode, I discusseeating challenges, restriction patterns, sensory overload, trauma, and ARFID. Please listen gently and take breaks if needed. Who This Episode Supports This episode is for autistic adults, parents of autistic children, providers who want to offer neurodivergent affirming care, and anyone who wants a deeper understanding of autistic eating experiences. It is also supportive for people exploring ARFID symptoms rooted in sensory needs, trauma histories, or routines that feel protective. Related Episodes Autism & Eating Disorders Explained: Signs, Struggles, & Support That Works on Apple & Spotify. The Invisible Hunger: How Masking Shows Up in Eating Disorder Recovery on Apple & Spotify. How Masking Neurodivergence Can Fuel Eating Disorders on Apple & Spotify. Autism & Anorexia: When Masking Looks Like Restriction, & Recovery Feels Unsafe on Apple & Spotify. Work With Dr. Marianne If you want support that honors your sensory needs and your autonomy, you can learn more about my therapy services in California, Texas, and Washington, D.C., as well as global coaching options at drmariannemiller.com. You can also explore my ARFID and selective eating course and my binge eating and bulimia membership for additional tools. You deserve care that meets your body where it is.
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