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The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast is the only podcast dedicated to helping the Investment Banking community grow through learning from successful leaders.

Whether you are interested in learning about investment banking, an Analyst or Associate looking to grow and develop within the industry, or a VP or Senior IB professional who is passionate about leadership and learning from others, you will enjoy the show.

Our mission is to connect you with as many successful Investment Banking leaders as possible helping you succeed in a competitive space!

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Welcome back to another great episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast! In today's episode, we will explore how one man's refusal to lose and deep belief in integrity built the world's most elite shareholder activism defense practice.From a small steel town in Germany to Wall Street, Kai Liekefett became the world's top shareholder activism defense lawyer. He unpacks the "soap opera" of corporate battles, how he built a booming practice with constant BD, and why asking “why” is the key to leadership, learning, and client trust.To learn more from Kai, tune into Episode 38 of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast today!
Welcome back to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast! In this episode, our host Pete Nieberg chats with Luis Carlos Ochoa Paris, founder of Valoriza Group.From his early days in Colombia reading the Wall Street Journal to becoming a top independent investment banker in Latin America, Luis shares his journey, lessons learned, and leadership advice.Don't miss this inspiring conversation covering client trust, grit, international exposure, and the impact of AI in investment banking!Join the Investment Banking Leaders Club for more valuable resources at ibleadersclub.com.00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:41 Meet Luis Carlos Ochoa Paris01:07 Luis's Journey to Founding Valoriza Group07:09 Keys to Building Trust in Cross-Border Transactions09:26 Client-Centric Culture at Valoriza14:25 Leadership Lessons from Family and Mentors15:56 The Role of Discipline in Personal and Professional Life18:13 Importance of Networking and Client Relationships22:13 The Power of Networking in Business23:36 Transitioning from Execution to Origination23:46 Insights on Working at Citi28:00 Advice for Aspiring Global Bankers30:28 Finding Passion in Investment Banking35:44 The Role of AI in Investment Banking39:25 Recommended Reads for Leaders42:00 Final Reflections and Advice
Welcome back to another episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast!This week, we welcome Chiara Operto, founder of Edge Skills. In Episode 36, she shares how she went from Credit Suisse M&A to fintech entrepreneur, why sales and soft skills matter more than ever, and how AI is shaping finance training!A must-listen for aspiring bankers, juniors, and future leaders!00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:39 Introducing Today's Guest: Chiara Operto01:51  Chiara's Journey in Investment Banking04:10 Building Trust and Standing Out as a Junior Banker11:02 The Importance of Sales Skills in Banking15:17 Leadership and Entrepreneurship Insights17:59 Managing Resilience and Avoiding Burnout20:11 Taking Risks and Embracing Entrepreneurship21:52 The Importance of Co-Founders23:11 AI in Recruiting: Opportunities and Challenges26:25 Staying Relevant in an AI-Driven World27:36 Business Development and Community Building30:42 Proactive Outreach and Building Visibility34:57 Advice for Aspiring Professionals36:21 Recommended Resources and Final Thoughts
Welcome to another episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, hosted by the Investment Banking Leaders Club.In this episode, we are joined by Aaron Schwimmer, partner at MTS Health Partners. Aaron shares his unconventional journey into investment banking, starting in a lab, moving to equity research at Goldman Sachs, and transitioning to business development at MedImmune, before finally finding his stride at Barclays, Bank of America, and MTS Health Partners.Aaron discusses how his diverse background has shaped his leadership style and approach to client management in the healthcare sector. Topics covered include leveraging unique career paths for a competitive edge, building trust within teams, navigating high-stakes healthcare transactions, and empowering junior bankers.Aaron also provides valuable advice for aspiring leaders in the investment banking industry. Tune in for exclusive insights, leadership strategies, and career growth tips straight from one of the industry's top professionals. Don't forget to join the Investment Banking Leaders Club at ibleadersclub.com for even more resources and events.00:00 Introduction to the Investment Banking Leaders Podcast00:39 Meet Aaron Schwimmer: A Unique Journey into Investment Banking01:55 Aaron's Early Career and Transition to Finance03:42 Insights from Equity Research to Business Development06:52 Leadership Lessons from MedImmune15:27 Navigating Senior Relationships and Building Influence32:30 Transitioning to MTS Health Partners34:53 Final Thoughts and Career Advice
Welcome back to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, powered by the Investment Banking Leaders Club!In this episode, our host Peter Nieberg interviews Steve Rathbone, Vice Chairman and Managing Director at Stout in New York. Steve shares his inspirational career journey, which began with real estate and business sales in Perth, Australia, and then led him to New York City to build a career in M&A.He discusses pivotal experiences, including his formative years during the global financial crisis, leadership insights, mentorship, and how adaptability in uncertain markets is crucial. Steve emphasizes the importance of developing a business development mindset, creating a balanced life, and maintaining perseverance.Episode 32 provides invaluable insights and practical advice for both aspiring and seasoned investment banking professionals. Join the conversation and gain exclusive access to the strategies and lessons that can accelerate your career in investment banking!00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:39 Guest Introduction: Steve Rathbone's Career Journey01:59 Early Career Challenges and Lessons03:36 Formative Experiences at HT Capital07:01 Transition to Stout and Leadership Insights09:02 Leadership and Mentorship Philosophy14:14 Navigating Market Volatility18:25 Business Development Strategies26:40 Personal Development and Mindset31:27 Recommended Resources and Final Advice#theinvestmentbankingleaderspodcast #stevenrathbone #stout #investmentbanking #finance #podcast #mergersandacquisitions
Welcome back to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast! In episode 31, we dive deep into the world of secondaries with Adrian Millan, Partner at PJT Partners in New York.Adrian shares his remarkable career journey, starting fromcorporate finance at Credit Lyonnais, to becoming a leading figure in Blackstone's LP advisory practice. Discover the exciting growth of the secondaries market, how innovation and AI are reshaping the industry, and what it takes to thrive in this ever-evolving space.Adrian also discusses PJT's unique approach to attractingtop talent, the role of technology as a competitive differentiator, and offers valuable career advice for aspiring investment banking professionals.Join us for another engaging conversation that explores howto succeed in investment banking and the promising future of the secondaries market.Tune in now!00:00 Introduction to the Investment Banking LeadersPodcast00:39 Meet Adrian Millan: A Journey Through InvestmentBanking01:18 The Exciting World of Secondaries01:47 Adrian's Career Path and Insights04:18 Client Services and Market Strategies16:46 The Role of Technology and Innovation25:49 Advice for Aspiring Investment Bankers30:29 Reflections and Recommendations35:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Welcome back to another great episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, brought to you by The Investment Banking Leaders Club.In this episode, we had the opportunity to sit down with Tanya Van Biesen, President and CEO of VersaFi, a purpose-driven organization dedicated to advancing women in the finance sector.Tanya shares her journey from Procter & Gamble to leading roles at Spencer Stuart and Catalyst Canada, offering insights into her work in transforming the financial services industry by focusing on gender equity. Tanya discusses the challenges women face in investment banking, wealth management, and capital markets, and provides actionable strategies for leaders to foster a more inclusive and supportive environment.Join us for an enlightening conversation that explores the future of finance, AI’s impact on gender representation, and valuable leadership lessons.To view Project Affinity's report, click here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/12D7i_6yL_Xw-hFPh1o-4tPvQQ6C4EU0O/view?usp=sharingFor more exclusive insights, join the IB Leaders Club at ibleadersclub.com. Happy listening! 00:00 Introduction to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast00:39 Guest Introduction: Tanya Van Biesen02:11 Tanya's Career Journey03:38 VersaFi's Mission and Success05:09 Challenges in Investment Banking07:57 Parental Leave and Gender Equality09:42 Leadership and Inclusivity in Finance20:21 Future of Finance: AI and Gender Representation24:09 Wealth Management and Gender Dynamics26:34 Tanya's Leadership Style and Advice31:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Join us for a brand new episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast as we delve into the journey of Hawken Lord, founder and managing partner at Edgewater Strategy Group!From his beginnings at Morgan Stanley to the creation of Edgewater, learn about his transition from investment banking to private equity, the challenges he faced, and the lessons he learned along the way.Hawken shares invaluable insights into managing people, setting up a firm, and the current state of the PE market. Tune in for a deep dive into entrepreneurship, culture building, and the nuances of M&A and the office of the CFO services.A must-watch for anyone looking to navigate the competitive world of investment banking and private equity! 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:39 Guest Introduction: Hawken Lord's Journey01:55 The Birth of Edgewater Strategy Group05:22 Challenges and Lessons in Entrepreneurship12:05 Building a Strong Company Culture17:09 Talent Acquisition and Development20:57 Transitioning from Investment Banking to PrivateEquity22:07 Challenges in Financial Modeling for Different Sectors22:48 Overcoming Rejections and Finding the Right Fit25:31 Advice for Aspiring Private Equity Professionals26:25 The Importance of Reputation and Relationships28:46 Differences Between Investment Banking and PrivateEquity32:22 Current Challenges in Private Equity34:25 The Deal Team for Hire Model37:40 Building and Expanding Edgewater40:03 Leadership and Personal Growth42:06 Reflecting on Career Plans and Flexibility44:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
In this episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, we sit down with Greg Rodgers from Latham & Watkins, one of the industry's most respected capital markets lawyers!With nearly 30 years of experience, Greg has advised on some of the biggest deals—including Spotify’s groundbreaking direct listing—and has built a career at the intersection of law, finance, and innovation.🎧 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:✅ How Greg transitioned from philosophy student to capital markets leader✅ The Spotify deal and how it changed the game for IPOs✅ Why great lawyers act as the “grease” in a smooth transaction✅ How to build meaningful client relationships that last decades✅ The biggest emerging trends in capital markets and the impact of AI✅ Greg’s best career advice for junior professionals in law and finance🚀 Whether you’re an aspiring lawyer, investment banker, or finance professional, this episode is packed with valuable insights from one of the best in the business.00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:38 Guest Introduction: Greg Rodgers02:51 Greg's Career Journey and Role at Latham & Watkins07:25 Insights on Time Management and Networking10:25 Building Client Relationships13:27 The Spotify Direct Listing17:00 The Role of Lawyers in Transactions18:29 Leadership Advice for Aspiring Leaders27:50 Emerging Trends and Future Outlook32:11 Final Thoughts and Recommendations🔔 Subscribe for more insights from industry leaders!📩 Got questions or topics you’d love to hear about? Drop them in the comments!🔗 Follow us on LinkedIn for more: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/altrum-dealtoys/#InvestmentBanking #CorporateLaw #Latham&Watkins #CorporateLawyer #Spotify #FinanceLeadership #CapitalMarkets #AI #Technology #Networking
Welcome to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, where we dive deep into the minds of industry giants!In this episode, we sit down with John Stamatis, Managing Director and Co-Head of North America at Howden Capital Markets and Advisory (HCMA).John shares his unique journey and insights from his decade-long experience building HCMA from the ground up.Learn about HCMA's strategic focus on the global insurance and reinsurance industry, its approach to M&A advisory, capital markets, and insurance-linked securities. Discover how HCMA differentiates itself through deep specialization, integrated collaboration within the Howden Group, and a relentless focus on client service and execution.John also discusses the importance of building a strong talent pipeline, fostering a collaborative culture, and maintaining client relationships.Tune in for valuable career advice, leadership lessons, and John's vision for the future of investment banking. Don't miss this informative conversation packed with strategies that can fast-track your career!00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:38 Guest Introduction: John Stamatis01:54 John's Career Journey and HCMA's Growth06:31 Scaling the Team and Strategic Integration11:02 Talent Development and Culture17:54 Client Relationships and Execution26:04 Industry Evolution and Future Opportunities34:28 Leadership Advice and Personal Insights39:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Welcome to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, brought to you by The Investment Banking Leaders Club.In this episode, our host Peter Nieberg sits down with Allan Bertie, Head of European Investment Banking at Raymond James, UK.Allan shares his extraordinary 32-year journey from roles in firms like Schroders, DLJ, Bridgewell, Jefferies, and Raymond James, and his venture into entrepreneurship in renewable energy. Gain insights into his philosophy on resilience, leadership, and collegiate environments in investment banking. Hearabout his experiences with global transactions, navigating economic cycles, and his views on Ai's role in future deal-making.Don't miss this engaging conversation with a leader who has closed numerous deals, generating billions of dollars. Join us for actionable advice and strategies to accelerate yourcareer! 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast00:38 Guest Introduction: Alan Bertie02:01 Allan's Career Journey06:22 Experiences at DLJ08:28 Entrepreneurial Ventures10:40 Current Role at Raymond James12:34 Leadership Insights15:19 Building Collegiate Environments18:52 Cracking the C-Suite20:46 Top 5%: The Power of Diligence and Follow-Up21:12 Key Traits for Building Strong Relationships21:40 Opportunities and Challenges for Modern Leaders22:26 Ai's Impact on the Future of Deal Making24:58 Evolving Dynamics in Private Equity27:57 Resilience and Tenacity in Investment Banking32:57 Global Travel and Networking Highlights34:04 Advice for Aspiring Investment Bankers35:10 The Importance of Continuous Learning37:47 Final Thoughts and Future Outlook
In this episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, we gain exclusive and rare insights from David Koch, Managing Director, Head of ECM, and Co-Head of Capital Markets at Brown Gibbons Lang & Company in New York! David shares his journey from starting his career at Lehman Brothers through its collapse, his significant contributions at Barclays and GP Bullhound, to his current role at BGL. Learn about his unique capital formation approach, the importance of brand recognition in investment banking, and the key lessons he has learned from building multiple successful ECM teams. David also discusses embracing change through technology, and the significance of mentorship, and offers valuable advice for aspiring leaders. Don't miss out on this insightful discussion aimed at accelerating your career growth in the investment banking industry! -------------------------------------------- 00:00 Welcome to The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast 00:28 Introducing David Koch: A Journey Through Investment Banking 02:19 David Koch's Career Insights and Lessons 05:19 The Importance of Brand Recognition in Investment Banking 09:25 Building a Personal and Professional Brand 10:16 Transitioning Between U.S. and European Markets 17:20 Building Successful ECM Teams 23:46 Creative Deal Structuring 24:31 Advice for Aspiring Leaders 25:01 Key Leadership Traits 29:19 Building a Successful Team 32:46 Opportunities and Challenges in Investment Banking 33:56 Embracing Technology and AI 36:51 Recognizing Success in Teams 38:16 Reflecting on Career Growth 40:06 Future of Investment Banking 42:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Join us for a brand new episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast with Alexandre Chenesseau, Managing Director at CMD Global Partners in New York! Alex shares his journey in investment banking, including his extensive experience in cross-border M&A and capital solutions, and his time in Asia. Learn about Alex's unique approach to career growth, the importance of volunteering, building authentic relationships, and strategic decision-making. Gain insights on the current trends and opportunities in the industry, and discover how to navigate the complexities of cross-border transactions. Whether you're an aspiring banker or a seasoned professional, this episode offers valuable lessons on leadership, mentorship, and achieving career success! 00:00 Exclusive Insights from Industry Leaders 00:30 Introducing Alex Chesineau: A Global Banking Leader 01:12 Alex's Diverse Career Journey 02:57 CMD Global Partners: A Boutique Investment Bank 03:49 Alex's Passion for Scuba Diving 04:33 Working in China: Challenges and Learnings 11:16 Building a Diverse Network 18:33 The Importance of Mentorship 20:30 Strategically Managing Your Career 22:24 Finding Fulfillment in a Global Career 23:46 Navigating Cross-Border Transactions 26:02 Essential Skills for Investment Banking Leaders 31:06 The Role of Empathy in Leadership 33:08 Recognizing Success in Investment Banking 35:27 Opportunities and Challenges in 2025 38:48 Learning from Mistakes and Taking Risks 40:40 Recommended Reads for Leaders 44:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Join us for a new episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast featuring David Lam, Vice Chair and Managing Partner at Deloitte Corporate Finance Canada! Discover David's unique journey from fast food franchises to leading Deloitte's corporate finance practice, as well as his insights on entrepreneurship, team culture, and effective leadership. Learn how David builds client trust, manages tough conversations, and maintains a long-term vision for success. Packed with personal anecdotes, Chinese philosophy, and practical advice, this episode is a must-watch for aspiring leaders and professionals in the finance industry. ---------------------------------------------------------- 00:00 Introduction to the Investment Banking Leaders Podcast 00:30 Meet David Lam: From Fast Food Franchises to Deloitte 00:48 David's Entrepreneurial Journey and Early Career 02:38 Deloitte Corporate Finance: Services and Success 04:17 David's Personal Insights and Kickboxing Background 06:43 Entrepreneurial Skills in Finance 09:25 Building a Personal Brand and Authenticity 14:19 Overcoming Obstacles and Rising Above 17:23 Leadership and Building a Unique Culture 23:02 Understanding the Sales Process 23:47 The Bamboo Analogy 25:38 Building Client Trust 28:51 Delivering Tough News 30:04 Opportunities for Future Leaders 33:03 Challenges for Modern Leaders 34:25 The Future of M&A and AI 38:12 Advice for Aspiring Leaders 42:33 Final Thoughts and Reflections
In this episode of the Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, our host, Peter Nieberg, interviewed Bryan Kuhn, co-founder and partner at Vestra Advisors. Bryan shares his insights from his 12-year career at Citi, where he advised on complex M&A and capital market transactions and raised over $30 billion for clients. Bryan discusses his journey of founding Vestra Advisors, emphasizing the importance of sector focus, quality service, and strategic planning. He also talks about career management, mentorship, goal setting, and the skills critical for investment banking leaders. Bryan highlights the significance of taking risks, nurturing professional relationships, and continuously improving one's skillset for long-term success in the industry. 00:00 Introduction to the Investment Banking Leaders Podcast 00:26 Meet Bryan Kuhn: Co-Founder of Vestra Advisors 00:49 Bryan's Career Journey at Citi 01:21 The Birth of Vestra Advisors 01:49 Vestra Advisors: Focus and Services 02:57 Early Success and Future Prospects 03:11 Personal Insights: Sabbatical and Ironman 04:10 Career Reflections: Working at a Bulge Bracket Firm 06:11 Strategic Career Management and Goal Setting 13:31 The Importance of Mentorship 17:08 Founding Vestra: Inspiration and Challenges 20:34 Embracing Risk and Uncertainty 21:54 Keys to Early Success at Vestra 23:17 Vestra's Unique Market Position 24:57 Managing Client Relationships 29:18 Essential Skills for Investment Banking Leaders 33:20 Challenges in the Post-COVID Environment 36:06 The Rise of Boutique Firms 37:36 Personal Growth and Development 41:03 Final Thoughts and Advice
In this episode of the Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, host Pete welcomes Piers, the Managing Director and Head of DCM Syndicate at Truist Securities in New York.   Piers shares valuable insights from his 20-year career in debt markets, including his pioneering work on contingent capital instruments and strategies for navigating financial crises.   The conversation covers key differences between U.S. and European finance, the importance of building a network, and actionable tips on fostering resilience and growth in fast-paced environments.   Additionally, Piers offers a unique perspective on leveraging technological advancements and demographic shifts for business growth, concluding with impactful advice for aspiring leaders. 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:27 Meet Piers, the Debt Expert 00:44 Piers' Career Journey 01:54 Truist Securities: A New Banking Giant 03:37 Piers' Personal Interests 04:39 Lessons from the RAF 05:53 Transitioning from the UK to the US 09:54 Differences Between US and UK Finance 13:05 Pioneering Contingent Capital Instruments 16:54 Surviving the Financial Crisis 20:30 The Collapse of Credit Suisse 23:28 The Importance of Resilience in Leadership 23:35 Gaining Perspective as a Leader 24:05 A Controversial Leadership Tool 27:05 The Power of Vision in Leadership 29:07 Motivating Your Team 29:58 Opportunities and Challenges in the Industry 34:31 Building Resilience 36:38 Growth and Development as a Leader 38:33 Recommended Books and Podcasts 41:05 Career Highlights and Final Advice
This week's episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast features an exclusive conversation with Shaun Browne, Chairman of the Consumer Group, Europe, and Co-Head of Corporate Finance Europe at Houlihan Lokey in London. Browne shares invaluable insights from his impressive career, which includes roles such as CEO of HSBC Investment Bank in India and founder of the boutique advisory firm McQueen. Learn his secrets to success, including his ability to reinvent himself, build strong teams, and leverage deep sector knowledge. Discover how to navigate the challenges of the investment banking industry and capitalize on new opportunities like AI and IPO market recovery. Don't miss out on Shaun's leadership tips and advice for aspiring investment banking professionals. Tune in now for a 45-minute deep dive into the world of investment banking and career growth! -------------------------------------------------- The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast Hosted by Peter Nieberg Produced by Peter Nieberg and Brett Dayman Edited by Natalia Revere
On this episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, our host Pete Nieberg sits down with Monika Nickl, Founding Partner at TCG Corporate Finance, to explore her 20-year career in the industry. Monika shares insights on leading top firms, mentorship, industry trends, and overcoming challenges as a female leader. Tune into Episode 19 now for valuable lessons on success in investment banking! ------------------------------------------------------- The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast Hosted by Peter Nieberg Produced by Peter Nieberg and Brett Dayman Edited by Natalia Revere
In this episode of The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast, we sit down with Larry Grafstein, Deputy Chairman, Global Investment Banking at RBC Capital Markets. Larry shares his unconventional journey from law and politics to investment banking, offering valuable insights on building relationships, winning major deals, and achieving a work-life balance. With over $1 trillion in transactions under his belt, Larry’s wisdom on navigating high-stakes finance and fostering professional connections is a must-hear for aspiring finance professionals! ____________________________________________ The Investment Banking Leaders Podcast Hosted by Peter Nieberg Produced by Peter Nieberg and Brett Dayman Edited by Natalia Revere
In this episode of the Investment Banking Leaders podcast, host Pete Nieberg interviews Neno Raic, Co-Founder and Managing Partner at NLC. Founded in 2021, NLC has become the first independent alternative fund finance lender dedicated to providing financing solutions to general partners and the funds they manage. Raic shares insights from his journey in the fund financing space, the impact of recent banking crises on the industry, and the importance of building a solid team culture in the ever-growing NLC. He also discusses the transition from corporate banking to entrepreneurship, the value of networking, mentorship, and the significance of persistence and excitement in fundraising. Additionally, Raic emphasizes the importance of celebrating successes and encourages interested individuals to consider the growing field of fund financing.     00:00 Meet Neno Raic: A Trailblazer in Fund Financing  02:09 The Evolution of Fund Financing with Neno Raic  03:40 Neno's Journey: From Croatia to Fund Finance Innovator  07:50 The Importance of Fund Finance in Investment Banking  11:47 Mindset and Skillset: Keys to Success in Fund Finance  16:05 Mastering the Art of Fundraising and Adding Value  22:06 Navigating Career Transitions in Finance  23:42 The Essence of Problem Solving in Business  24:12 Navigating Challenges and Embracing Opportunities  24:53 Leadership Insights: Building a Culture and Team Dynamics  26:44 The Power of Core Values in Shaping a Company  28:59 Transitioning from Investment Banking to Entrepreneurship  30:58 The Role of Mentorship in Career Development  33:44 Networking: A Necessary Skill for Founders  35:37 Fund Finance: Opportunities and Growth  37:23 Looking Ahead: Plans and Predictions for NLC  39:33 Reflecting on Career Advice and Continuous Learning  43:44 Closing Thoughts and Open Invitation
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