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We believe Michigan makes great wine. It is an up-and-coming region, already producing world-class award-winning wines. Our mission is to help the world learn about and to enhance the prestige of Michigan wine.
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Amy Birk, co-owner and winemaker at Domaine Berrien Cellars in Berrien Springs, joins the podcast to talk about Michigan’s red wine story. We explore why red grapes thrive in this region, why Cabernet Franc, Merlot, and Lemberger stand out, and how Amy approaches her work as one of the rising leaders in Michigan wine. The first of a three-part series with Michigan winemakers. Reach Amy at domaineberrien.com or email her at winery@domaineberrien.com. © Steve Salisbury 2026. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
In this final episode of our four-part series on vineyard care through the seasons, I sit down once again with Mike de Schaaf, Farm Manager at MSU Extension in Benton Harbor. Mike brings a steady, thoughtful approach to vineyard work, and today we explore the fall season and everything leading up to and including harvest. Learn more about MSU’s work at https://www.canr.msu.edu/swmrec/ and explore wine education at lakemichigancollege.edu/wine. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Episode 139 features Mike de Schaaf, Farm Manager at MSU Extension in Benton Harbor. This is the third of four conversations covering vineyard care through the seasons. Today we focus on summer and explore thinning, irrigation and disease control. Learn more at https://www.canr.msu.edu/swmrec/ and lakemichigancollege.edu/wine. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Episode 138 features Mike de Schaaf, Farm Manager at MSU Extension in Benton Harbor. This is the second of a four-part series focused on vineyard care for each season. Today we explore spring and discuss frost protection, bud break, fertilizer and disease. Mike also shares insight into his role at Lake Michigan College. Learn more about his work at https://www.canr.msu.edu/swmrec/ and lakemichigancollege.edu/wine. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Episode 137 features Mike de Schaaf, Farm Manager at MSU Extension in Benton Harbor, joining me for the first installment of a four part series on vineyard care through the seasons. Today we explore winter, the critical pruning season that sets the tone for the entire year. We also highlight Mike’s work at Lake Michigan College and point listeners to Episode 64 for his background and story. Learn more about MSU’s work at https://www.canr.msu.edu/swmrec/ and explore the wine program at lakemichigancollege.edu/wine. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
This episode features a summer conversation with Ben Guerrin, recorded during his time as Vineyard Manager at Modales. We explore organic certification, the responsibilities of a vineyard manager, the challenges that define each season, and the collaborative relationship between vineyard and winery. Ben now serves as Agronomy Sales, Account Relationship Manager for Keystone Co-op, supporting grape growers across Michigan with crop protection, fertility solutions, disease control, and nutrition. Contact Ben at benjamin.guerrin@keystonecoop.com or 616-239-5607. Learn more about Modales at modaleswines.com.© Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Many listeners have asked me to share my story, and this episode brings it forward. I also explain what is ahead while my wife and I travel abroad. I have prepared a full arc of episodes that will continue each week. We begin with my own story, then move into the vineyard with its pulse and the seasons. From there we explore the varieties that define Michigan wine, including red grapes, Cabernet Franc, Sauvignon Blanc, Pinot Noir, Ice Wines and other cool climate strengths. We also hear from voices who carry forward soil, soul and regional heritage, and close with a look at marketing and industry. These episodes are designed to keep the conversation moving and to offer a deeper look at Michigan wine. Visit ifvinescouldtalk.com or contact me at steve.salisbury@mail.com. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
In this episode, I sit down once again with Tim Godfrey, now serving as Program Director for Agriculture, Culinary Management, and Wine and Viticulture at Lake Michigan College. Tim brings insight, humor, and honesty as we explore the challenges of winemaking. We also discuss the winemaking program at Lake Michigan College, why it is worth exploring, and take a detailed look at sulfites. Learn more at lakemichiganvintners.com and lakemichigancollege.edu/wine or contact Tim at tgodfrey@lakemichigancollege.edu. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Join me for Episode 133 as I visit with Folklor, a remarkable farm and winery in Charlevoix owned by Izabela Babinska and Derrick Vogel. I walked the farm with Iza in October, tasted several of their excellent wines with Derrick a few days later, and then sat down with both of them for a fun interview in late November. They are a delightful couple whose work reflects deep care for the land and a commitment to sustainable agriculture. During my visit, they were in the middle of their organic certification process, which they have now completed. Learn more at folklorwinecider.com © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
In this episode, Tony Jacobson walks through his journey from Sleepy Creek in Illinois, to ten years in Traverse City, to his work with Mawby, and finally to launching Loose Cannon. Tony also leads the P.45 Wines and Vines group, a collaborative space for growers and winemakers. Learn more at loosecannon.wine or reach Tony at tony@loosecannon.wine. Follow on Instagram at loosecannon.wine or tonymakeswine. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Episode 131 features Chalet Sturgeon in Pouring Premium. We explore the February event with Domaine Berrien and Watermark Brewing, and highlight the Local Pour experience with conversations across Michigan wineries. For inquiries, contact Chalet@localpourmi.com or call 269-405-1262. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Episode 130 features Kristy McClellan, a true Michigan Wine Advocate. From her early start at Brittany's Oyster Bar in Charlevoix to her years at Argonne Supper Club and Tapa Wingo, Kristy built her foundation in hospitality before studying at Michigan State University. Her career took her to J. Alexander, where she became Wine Buyer in Denver, and then to 12 years at Bower’s Harbor. Today she owns Lake District Wine in Traverse City, a shop dedicated to small producers, and serves as Director of Sales at Left Foot Charley since 2020. Learn more at lakedistrictwine.com or reach Kristy at Kristy@leftfootcharley.com, Kristy@lakedistrictwine.com, or 231-620-1170. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
This episode takes you inside Up North, a wine tasting room in Geneva, Illinois, dedicated to showcasing northern Michigan wines. We feature 14 remarkable producers: Big Little Wines, Black Star Farms, Bonobo, Blustone, Left Foot Charley, Bel Lago Vineyard, French Valley Vineyard, Mawby, Shady Lane Cellars, Verterra, Brys Estate, BOS Wines, and Mari Vineyards. Discover more at upnorthwinegeneva.com, reach out at info@upnorthwinegeneva.com, and follow Instagram @upnorthwinetasting. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
From Missouri roots to Michigan vineyards, Chaz Judy brings a unique perspective shaped by culinary school, a strong sense of smell, and years of experience at Pyrtle Winery. At Petoskey Farms, he helps run the winery more like a restaurant, blending hospitality with winemaking. We talk about his journey, his collaborations with Andy, Tracie, and Derrick Vogel, and his 2024 Blaufrankish. Learn more at petoskeyfarms.com and the region at petoskey.wine. Follow Chaz on Instagram @winemaker_chaz. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Episode 127 features Ellie Mullins from P&E Bottle Shop. We explore the story behind the shop, the arrival of Peony Pinot Noir, and how Michigan wine continues to thrive in local retail spaces. Learn more at pebottleshop.com or reach out at info@pebottleshop.com.© Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Lyn M. (L.M.) Archer shares her discoveries in Leelanau Peninsula and Old Mission Peninsula, her Substack dedicated to bubbles, and her focus on sustainability and traditional method sparkling wine. With a Champagne designation and thoughtful insights, she discusses the challenges and allure of the wine business. Hear her recommendations for bubbles from Black Star Farms, Mawby, Mari, and Left Foot Charley. Learn more at lmarcher.com, https://redt.substack.com/, and Instagram @lmarcherml. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
In this episode, I sit down with Olivia Anguilm and Nick Allen of WaterFire, longtime friends who found themselves running a winery almost by surprise. Nick’s agricultural roots and Olivia’s business and hospitality skills are guiding their vision for a sustainable, cozy vineyard experience. We talk about their plans for Riesling, Grüner Veltliner, Blaufränkisch, and more, as well as their hopes for micro weddings, rentals among the vines, and keeping the quaint aesthetic alive. Learn more about WaterFire at waterfirewine.com or reach them at info@waterfirewine.com. Follow them on Facebook and Instagram. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
In Episode 124 of If Vines Could Talk, we sit down with sustainability consultant Winnie Guerra to explore the roots and realities of organic winegrowing. From regenerative practices to the business case for sustainability, Winnie shares insights that matter for growers, winemakers, and wine lovers alike. Follow her on Instagram @winnie.g or reach her at winnieguerra18@gmail.com. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
Bob Utter of Flying Otter Vineyard joins us to talk about growing grapes in Southeast Michigan. With an engineering background and a deep dive into viticulture, Bob shares how cold-hardy varieties like Marquette, Petite Pearl, and Frontenac Blanc thrive in Michigan’s climate. He explains why Blaufränkisch didn’t work, how Geneva Double Curtain and single highwire lateral cordon training support growth, and why he prefers the term “cold-hardy” over “hybrid.” Whether you’re a grower, winemaker, or enthusiast, this episode offers practical insight into crafting wine from the ground up. Learn more at flyingotter.com or reach out at info@flyingotter.com. © Steve Salisbury. Produced by Steve Salisbury. All rights reserved.
In Episode 122, we sit down with Michael Wells of Black Fire Winery, located near Tecumseh in Southeast Michigan. Michael is Michigan’s first Black winemaker and brewer, and his journey is as bold as the wines he crafts. We talk about his inspiration, his process, and what it means to break new ground in Michigan’s wine scene. Visit blackfirewinery.com or call the tasting room at 517-424-9232 to learn more.
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