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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy
M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy
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New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.
M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a podcast that goes behind the scenes of the dance world. In a realm often portrayed as glamorous and perfect, we share candid stories that show the highs, lows, and dedication of dancers and movement artists from all backgrounds. Our mission is to normalize their experiences, challenge stereotypes, and illuminate diverse paths. Each episode provides a safe space for personal anecdotes, struggles, and pivotal moments, aiming to widen the understanding of dance. Join us as we break free from scripted narratives and reveal the true heart and soul of this art form.
A podcast for dancers and movement artists illuminating the person within the process of visceral artistry.
M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a podcast that goes behind the scenes of the dance world. In a realm often portrayed as glamorous and perfect, we share candid stories that show the highs, lows, and dedication of dancers and movement artists from all backgrounds. Our mission is to normalize their experiences, challenge stereotypes, and illuminate diverse paths. Each episode provides a safe space for personal anecdotes, struggles, and pivotal moments, aiming to widen the understanding of dance. Join us as we break free from scripted narratives and reveal the true heart and soul of this art form.
A podcast for dancers and movement artists illuminating the person within the process of visceral artistry.
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Send a text In the Season 2 FINALE Mini Series Episode, Eileen + Amy ask 4 questions to each other, the public (reading their responses) and past guests (sharing audio clips they sent in) from best and worst audition stories to cross-training to euphoric moments within the dance process to what they want to tell their bodies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of shared experiences and serves as a celebration of the journey and the lessons learned along the way (both within the indust...
Send a text Guests: Eileen Kielty & Amy Kubat Movement Artists / Alchemists / Podcast Hosts In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy ask each other 2 questions each; engaging in a deep conversation about self-advocacy, personal growth, and the patterns they recognize in their dance and movement. They share personal stories of advocating for themselves in challenging situations, the importance of emotional awareness, and how their experiences shape their artistic expression. The discussi...
Send a text In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the contrasting dance cultures of New York and Los Angeles, discussing the pressures dancers face when choosing between the two coasts. They delve into the dynamics of the dance industry, the impact of representation, and the challenges of auditions in LA through Amy's experiences. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding one's own path in the dance world, the sunk cost fallacy, and the evolving opportunities a...
Send a text Guest: Angela Joy Music Enthusiast In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy speak with Angela as she shares her experiences in the arts, the impact of her upbringing, and the significance of music and comedy in her life. The discussion delves into the challenges of the audition process, the importance of resilience, and the sacred nature of creative expression. In this conversation, they discuss the complexities of navigating the dance industry, focusing on the balance between i...
Send a text In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the nuanced differences between practice, rehearsal, and performance within the creative process, through the lens of dance and movement artistry. They emphasize the importance of personal investment in practice, the collaborative nature of rehearsal, and the execution of artistry in performance. The discussion highlights the need for intentionality in each phase to foster growth and connection with the audience. They go on to ex...
Send a text Guest: Caileigh Scott Performer / Storyteller / Movement Artist In this week's interview episode, Eileen and Amy talk with Caileigh Scott and explore the journey of reconnecting with dance after illness, the multifaceted identity of movement artists, and the importance of sensitivity in performance. They discuss the integration of various artistic expressions, the role of vulnerability in creativity, and the significance of feedback in the arts. The conversation highlights the ev...
Send a text PART 2: In this conversation, Eileen and Amy explore the intricate relationship between fascia, emotions, and physical sensations. They discuss how fascia serves as a support system for the body, its role in chronic pain that often leads to acute injury, and how emotional trauma can manifest physically. The episode also emphasizes the importance of understanding the body's signals and the need for somatic practices to heal and re-pattern the mind-body connection. This is a Two Pa...
Send a text Guest: Nora Schell Actor / Singer / Songwriter In this interview episode, we speak with Nora on navigating the complexities of the arts industry discussing their experiences with mental health, body positivity, and the importance of community support. The conversation delves into the challenges of being a performer, the role of advocacy in the arts, and the impact of negative feedback on self-esteem. Nora emphasizes the need for change within the industry and the importance of cr...
Send a text PART 1: This conversation delves into the complexities of injury prevention within the dance industry. The hosts discuss the high prevalence of injuries, the impact of collective trauma, and the importance of understanding both physical and emotional aspects of injury. They emphasize the need for a holistic approach to injury prevention, including awareness of muscle engagement, the role of touch in learning, and the significance of mindfulness in movement practices. The discussio...
Send a text Guest: Jordan Eagle Performer In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy interview Jordan Eagle, a multifaceted performer and photographer. They discuss Jordan's journey in the arts, the pressures of identity within the performance industry, and the importance of community and storytelling. Jordan shares her journey with photography, her inspirations, and the nuances of supporting artists. The conversation also touches on the realities of being a performer, the challenges of navig...
Send a text In this conversation, Eileen and Amy delve into the intricacies of the creative process, particularly in choreography. They explore the nuances of how choreographers and dancers interact, the steps involved in creating a dance piece, and the emotional responses that drive artistic expression. The discussion highlights the challenges faced in collaboration, the importance of inspiration, and the ever-evolving nature of creativity in the dance industry. This episode emphasizes the i...
Send a text Guest: Alice Robb Writer In this engaging conversation, Eileen and Amy interview Alice Robb, author of 'Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet', exploring her journey from the ballet world to becoming a writer. They discuss the emotional complexities of loving ballet, the impact of dreams (in regards to her first book), and the importance of curiosity, especially as we learn. Alice shares her insights on body image, the need for change in ballet training, and how writing...
Send a text In this episode, Eileen and Amy discuss ageism in the dance industry. They share personal experiences and observations of how age is weaponized and how dancers are expected to retire at a young age. They explore the implicit age limits in auditions and the pressure to prove oneself before reaching a certain age emphasizing the importance of staying in the industry and advocating for older dancers to challenge ageist norms. This episode highlights the challenges of being an older d...
Send a text Guest: Delaney Charlotte Burke Movement Artist / Storyteller In this interview episode, Delaney shares her journey in the performing arts, from shifting into a triple threat to finding her passion for dance. She discusses the challenges of training in a traditional dance program and the pressure to fit into codified techniques; emphasizing the importance of artistic expression and individuality in dance, and the need for more fusion and diversity in the industry. She also opens u...
Send a text In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the topic of disordered eating. They provide definitions and distinctions between disordered eating, intuitive eating, and eating disorders. They share their personal experiences with disordered eating and how it has evolved over time. The conversation also touches on the influence of societal and cultural factors on eating behaviors, as well as the prevalence of eating disorders in the dance and aesthetic sports industries. Eile...
Send a text Guest: Liza Little Sculptor In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy discuss Liza's journey from being a dancer to becoming a sculptor as well as the intersection of art and science, the importance of curiosity, and the challenges of the audition world. Liza shares her motivation to understand the self-image and the human body through sculpture and emphasizes the need for artists to step outside of their bubble and connect with the world around them. In this conversation, they al...
Send a text In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the professional paths within the dance industry, focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC) as an example. They explore the narrow trajectory of competition dancers and the value placed on spectacle and entertainment as well as the transition from competition dance to college dance teams and the limited career options available. They also touch on the controversy surrounding the pay of DCC dancers and the undervaluing of ...
Send a text Guest: Lisa D. Long Curious Human Being I CSUF Professor I Movement Artist I Choreographer I Researcher I Author In this interview episode, Lisa D. Long, shares her journey in the dance world & her passion for teaching & supporting students. She emphasizes the importance of change, connection, & nature in her work. Discussing her research on mindfulness practices in dance & the positive impact they have on students' metacognition, critical thinking, sensory awarene...
Send a text In the final part of this Episode (Part 4), Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of a dysregulated nervous system and its connection to unresolved trauma. They explore the impact of trauma on the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems and how a dysregulated nervous system can lead to psychological, physical, and cognitive issues. Additionally, the window of tolerance is introduced as a period of optimal balance in the nervous system; delving into how somatic...
Send a text In Part 3 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of optimism and how it has been weaponized against dancing bodies. It delves into the importance of having empathetic witnesses and the impact of trauma on the nervous system. The five traumatic responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop) are discussed in detail, highlighting their physical and emotional manifestations. They also emphasize the need for dancers to establish boundaries, challenge abu...



