The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.Researchers at Trend Micro have uncovered continued activity from China-aligned threat actors leveraging a cross-platform JavaScript-based command-and-control framework known as "PeckBirdy".Silent Push has identified an extensive phishing campaign targeting over 100 organizations, attributed to the threat actor group ShinyHunters.A malicious Visual Studio Code extension impersonating an AI coding assistant for Moltbot has been discovered distributing malware via the official VS Code Extension Marketplace.Dragos has attributed the December 2025 cyberattack on the Polish power grid to the Russian state-sponsored group known as ELECTRUM, with medium confidence.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

Join us for a special Defender Fridays Office Hours session where the LimaCharlie team demonstrates the new Agentic SecOps Workspace (ASW) and explores what's possible when AI agents operate security infrastructure directly.At Defender Fridays, we delve into the dynamic world of information security, exploring its defensive side with seasoned professionals from across the industry. Our aim is simple yet ambitious: to foster a collaborative space where ideas flow freely, experiences are shared, and knowledge expands.What We'll DiscussIn this hands-on session, we showcase real working implementations of AI in cybersecurity operations. From reverse engineering malware to automated rule tuning and infrastructure management, we demonstrate how AI agents are transforming security workflows from concept to production-ready tools in hours instead of days.Key TopicsAutomated malware analysis and decompilation without traditional manual reverse engineering workflowsRule tuning at scale: Investigating noisy detections, writing false positive rules, and deploying them autonomouslyInfrastructure automation: Setting up data sources, configuring tenants, and managing security operations through AI agentsThe permission model: Balancing AI capability with human oversight and approval workflowsReal-world applications: Custom reporting, detection coverage analysis, and operational time savingsAbout This SessionThis office hours format brings together the LimaCharlie team to share practical experiences with AI-powered security operations. Rather than theoretical discussions, we demonstrate working tools and invite the community to share their own AI security experiments. The session highlights the rapid evolution of AI capabilities in cybersecurity and explores the changing relationship between security practitioners and automation.Register for Live SessionsJoin us every Friday at 10:30am PT for live, interactive discussions with industry experts. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, these sessions offer an engaging dialogue between our guests, hosts, and you – our audience.Register here: https://limacharlie.io/defender-fridaysSubscribe to our YouTube channel and hit the notification bell to never miss a live session or catch up on past episodes!Sponsored by LimaCharlieThis episode is brought to you by LimaCharlie, a cloud-native SecOps platform where AI agents operate security infrastructure directly. Founded in 2018, LimaCharlie provides complete API coverage across detection, response, automation, and telemetry, with multi-tenant architecture designed for MSSPs and MDR providers managing thousands of unique client environments.Why LimaCharlie?Transparency: Complete visibility into every action and decision. No black boxes, no vendor lock-in.Scalability: Security operations that scale like infrastructure, not like procurement cycles. Move at cloud speed.Unopinionated Design: Integrate the tools you need, not just those contracts allow. Build security on your terms.Agentic SecOps Workspace (ASW): AI agents that operate alongside your team with observable, auditable actions through the same APIs human analysts use.Security Primitives: Composable building blocks that endure as tools come and go. Build once, evolve continuously.Try the Agentic SecOps Workspace free: https://limacharlie.ioLearn more: https://docs.limacharlie.ioFollow LimaCharlieSign up for free: https://limacharlie.ioLinkedIn: / limacharlieio X: https://x.com/limacharlieioCommunity Discourse: https://community.limacharlie.com/Host: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard - CEO / Co-founder at LimaCharlie

In this special episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, a panel of cybersecurity experts discuss the irreversible changes AI has brought to the industry. This panel originally aired on January 20th, 2026.The panel attendees include:Christopher Luft (host) - Co-Founder / CCO, LimaCharlieMaxime Lamothe-Brassard - Founder / CEO, LimaCharlieEric Capuano - Co-Founder, Digital Defense InstituteJoshua Neil - Co-Founder, Alpha LevelKris Merritt - AdvisorDaniel Lees - Sr Staff Cloud Security Architect, GoogleLimaCharlie has watched the AI SOC conversation unfold and stayed quiet. Until now.Security vendors are racing to attach chatbots to legacy platforms and call it innovation. AI SOC startups have raised hundreds of millions to build better alert triage. Both approaches solve the same narrow problem: helping analysts click faster.Service providers managing hundreds or thousands of tenants face a different reality. Alert triage matters, but so does deployment, configuration, detection engineering, reporting, and onboarding. The tedious work that eats margin and slows growth spans the entire operation.What if AI could operate your entire security infrastructure with the same access as your best analyst?We built LimaCharlie for complete programmatic access from day one. we were building for AI operators before AI operators existed. On January 20th, we'll show you what happens when AI agents can do everything in a security platform, across every tenant, through natural language.No marketing theater. Just real conversations and a demonstration of AI-driven security operations where you stay in control.Learn more at https://limacharlie.io/

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.North Korean threat actors are targeting macOS software developers in a new malware campaign that abuses Visual Studio Code (VS Code) confi gurations to deliver JavaScript-based backdoors, according to research from Jamf.Sinkholes are usually seen as the end of a malicious campaign - the point where domains are seized and abuse stops.China’s pen-testing and red-team ecosystem has always been hard to observe, especially since many teams stopped participating in international CTFs post-2018.A critical zero-day vulnerability, CVE-2025-64155, has been discovered in Fortinet’s FortiSIEM platform by Horizon3.ai, allowing unauthenticated remote code execution and privilege escalation to root.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

This week on Defender Fridays, John Hubbard, SANS Institute Cyber Defense Curriculum Lead, discusses the future of security operations and what it means for SOC leaders today. We'll be talking about:Building continuous improvement into SOC leadershipCurrent vendor and product trends shaping security operationsAI's real impact on SOC jobs and operationsFew instructors combine real-world security operations center (SOC) leadership, curriculum design, and frontline defense experience like John Hubbard. As a Senior Instructor at the SANS Institute, author of SANS SEC450: SOC Analyst Training – Applied Skills for Cyber Defense Operations, and co-author of SANS LDR551: Building and Leading Security Operations Centers, John translates years of frontline SOC leadership into practical lessons students can immediately apply. His courses give participants more than technical knowledge—they build the skills and judgment that ensure professionals thrive in modern security operations.At Defender Fridays, we delve into the dynamic world of information security, exploring its defensive side with seasoned professionals from across the industry. Our aim is simple yet ambitious: to foster a collaborative space where ideas flow freely, experiences are shared, and knowledge expands.Join us every Friday at 10:30am PT for live, interactive discussions with industry experts. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, these sessions offer an engaging dialogue between our guests, hosts, and you – our audience. Register here: https://limacharlie.io/defender-fridaysSubscribe to our YouTube channel and hit the notification bell to never miss a live session or catch up on past episodes on our website!This episode is brought to you by LimaCharlie, the world's first SecOps Cloud Platform (SCP). Build and customize your security stack like "lego blocks" with our flexible, API-first solution.Eliminate vendor sprawl and tool complexityDeploy and scale effortlessly on native multi-tenant architectureReduce costs with intelligent data routing and free 1-year retentionBuild custom solutions with 100+ security capabilities on-demandImprove response times with automation and real-time capabilitiesTry the SecOps Cloud Platform free: https://limacharlie.ioHost: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard - Founder at LimaCharlie

In this special episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, Mike Privette hosts a keynote discussion with LimaCharlie Founder and CEO, Maxime Lamothe-Brassard. LimaCharlie has watched the AI SOC conversation unfold and stayed quiet. Until now.Security vendors are racing to attach chatbots to legacy platforms and call it innovation. AI SOC startups have raised hundreds of millions to build better alert triage. Both approaches solve the same narrow problem: helping analysts click faster.Service providers managing hundreds or thousands of tenants face a different reality. Alert triage matters, but so does deployment, configuration, detection engineering, reporting, and onboarding. The tedious work that eats margin and slows growth spans the entire operation.What if AI could operate your entire security infrastructure with the same access as your best analyst?We built LimaCharlie for complete programmatic access from day one. we were building for AI operators before AI operators existed. On January 20th, we'll show you what happens when AI agents can do everything in a security platform, across every tenant, through natural language.No marketing theater. Just real conversations and a demonstration of AI-driven security operations where you stay in control.Learn more at https://limacharlie.io/

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.Security researchers at Check Point have uncovered a previously unknown Linux malware framework named VoidLink, which stands out for its complexity and modular design.Researchers at Trend Micro have identified a new phishing campaign that combines legitimate services and open-source tools to distribute AsyncRAT, a commodity-remote access trojan.New research into Predator spyware reveals a deeper level of sophistication and operational intelligence than previously understood.The widespread adoption of AI agents in enterprise environments is creating a new class of identity and access control risks as highlighted in a new report from The Hacker News.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

This week on Defender Fridays, Tom Cross, Head of Threat Research at GetReal Security, joins us to talk hiring fraud and deepfakes on our first Defender Fridays session of 2026!At Defender Fridays, we delve into the dynamic world of information security, exploring its defensive side with seasoned professionals from across the industry. Our aim is simple yet ambitious: to foster a collaborative space where ideas flow freely, experiences are shared, and knowledge expands.Join us every Friday at 10:30am PT for live, interactive discussions with industry experts. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, these sessions offer an engaging dialogue between our guests, hosts, and you – our audience. Register here: https://limacharlie.io/defender-fridaysSubscribe to our YouTube channel and hit the notification bell to never miss a live session or catch up on past episodes on our website!This episode is brought to you by LimaCharlie, the world's first SecOps Cloud Platform (SCP). Build and customize your security stack like "lego blocks" with our flexible, API-first solution.Eliminate vendor sprawl and tool complexityDeploy and scale effortlessly on native multi-tenant architectureReduce costs with intelligent data routing and free 1-year retentionBuild custom solutions with 100+ security capabilities on-demandImprove response times with automation and real-time capabilitiesTry the SecOps Cloud Platform free: https://limacharlie.ioHost: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard - Founder at LimaCharlie

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.A newly disclosed vulnerability in the workflow automation platform n8n, tracked as CVE-2026-21858 and rated CVSS 10.0, allows unauthenticated remote attackers to fully compromise exposed instances.Two malicious Chrome extensions impersonating a legitimate product from AITOPIA were found exfiltrating sensitive user data, including full AI chat histories, according to a report from OX Security.The recent U.S. military operation in Venezuela that led to the capture of President Nicolás Maduro may have included cyber operations, but official confirmation of cyber’s role remains ambiguous.Two U.S. citizens with professional backgrounds in cybersecurity have pleaded guilty to acting as affiliates of the ALPHV/BlackCat ransomware group, a prominent ransomware-as-a-service (RaaS) operation.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

On this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast we're starting the new season off with the hottest topic of 2025: AI. Sitting down with Maxime Lamothe-Brassard, Founder and CEO of LimaCharlie, we discuss the ways AI has rapidly changed how companies are building security tools.Join an in-depth discussion January 20, 2026 and witness LimaCharlie's fundamentally different approach to AI-powered security operations. Your security operations will never be the same: https://www.linkedin.com/events/7401665070889545728/Maxime Lamothe-Brassard began his cybersecurity career at the Canadian Department of National Defense before providing direct assistance to organizations facing cyber defense challenges. His career includes key roles at CrowdStrike and Google, as well as being part of Chronicle Security’s founding team, ultimately leading him to establish LimaCharlie to revolutionize security operations infrastructure. Support our show and share your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

On this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we revisit the 2025 predictions shared by our guests throughout the year. From attackers and defenders to AI and the broader security industry, these forecasts capture what experts expected was coming next. Rather than judging accuracy - which is still too early to assess -we're examining the predictions themselves: where they aligned, how they clustered, and what those patterns reveal about the industry’s mindset as this year came to a close. Free from hindsight bias, this episode explores what remained uncertain as we entered 2026.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

On this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast we speak with Rebekah Skeete, Executive Director and CEO of BlackGirlsHack Foundation. Rebekah dives into how BGH is helping to increase diversity in cybersecurity by bridging the gap between what is taught in educational institutions and what is necessary for careers in cybersecurity.For more information visit: https://www.blackgirlshack.org/HomeRebekah Skeete is a Security Engineer with Schellman based in Dallas, Texas. As a member of the Infrastructure and Security team, Rebekah is part of a collaborative group of technology professionals serving as the primary technical resource to safeguard the organization's computer networks and systems. In her role, she is responsible for planning and carrying out security measures to monitor and protect sensitive data and systems from infiltration and cyber-attacks. Prior to joining Schellman in 2022, Rebekah worked for the Texas Rangers in a myriad of roles, including Cybersecurity Analyst and Manager of IT Applications and Operations. During the construction of the Rangers new state-of-the-art ballpark, Globe Life Field, Rebekah assisted the Rangers IT department’s efforts to transition over 200 front office employees to their new workspaces. Outside baseball and IT, Rebekah is also interested in politics and started volunteering for campaigns in 2008. From 2013-2016, she served as a Campaign Manager in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. In 2015, she attended the Women’s Campaign School at Yale. Rebekah is the COO of BlackGirlsHack, a nonprofit organization providing black women with resources, training, mentoring, and access to increase representation and diversity in the cybersecurity field. Committed to inclusion and belonging, she holds the firm belief that representation enhances the culture and community of an organization and seeks to amplify underserved voices at any table she has a seat.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.For for more information about Cybersecurity Cares, visit cybersecurity-cares.comReact2Shell is the latest high-profile vulnerability in the web application landscape, scoring a critical CVSS 10.0 and drawing immediate comparisons to Log4Shell.Researchers at Noma Labs disclosed a critical vulnerability in Google's Gemini Enterprise AI assistant, dubbed GeminiJack, that allowed attackers to stealthily exfiltrate sensitive enterprise data.U.S. prosecutors have charged Victoria Eduardovna Dubranova, a 33‑year‑old Ukrainian woman, in two separate indictments for her alleged involvement with pro‑Russia hacktivist groups CyberArmyofRussia_Reborn and NoName057(16).A China-aligned threat actor identified as Warp Panda has been linked to recent compromises of VMware vCenter environments at U.S.-based organizations, according to a new report from CrowdStrike. Original CrowdStrike article. CISA BRICKSTORM Backdoor breakdown. Analysis report.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

Join us for this week's Defender Fridays as we explore the reality of AI-powered malware threats with Randy Pargman, Senior Director of Threat Detection at Proofpoint.At Defender Fridays, we delve into the dynamic world of information security, exploring its defensive side with seasoned professionals from across the industry. Our aim is simple yet ambitious: to foster a collaborative space where ideas flow freely, experiences are shared, and knowledge expands.In this episode, Randy challenges the hype around AI-powered polymorphic malware and examines how threat actors actually operate in practice. He discusses why defenders should focus on real-world threats rather than theoretical sophisticated attacks.Key Topics:The gap between AI malware hype and practical realityWhy threat actors prefer simple, effective methods over sophisticated techniquesThe prevalence of legitimate RMM tools in modern attacksBuilding practical detection strategies for actual threatsLessons from physical security that apply to cybersecurity defenseRandy Pargman is Senior Director of Threat Detection at Proofpoint, where he leads detection engineering, sandbox development, and threat actor tracking initiatives. Join us every Friday at 10:30am PT for live, interactive discussions with industry experts. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, these sessions offer an engaging dialogue between our guests, hosts, and you – our audience. Register here: https://limacharlie.io/defender-fridaysSubscribe to our YouTube channel and hit the notification bell to never miss a live session or catch up on past episodes on our website!This episode is brought to you by LimaCharlie, the world's first SecOps Cloud Platform (SCP). Build and customize your security stack like "lego blocks" with our flexible, API-first solution.Eliminate vendor sprawl and tool complexityDeploy and scale effortlessly on native multi-tenant architectureReduce costs with intelligent data routing and free 1-year retentionBuild custom solutions with 100+ security capabilities on-demandImprove response times with automation and real-time capabilitiesTry the SecOps Cloud Platform free: https://limacharlie.ioHost: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard - Founder at LimaCharlie

On this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast we speak with Alec Fenton, VP of Security Operations at Foresite Cybersecurity about his journey from SOC analyst to security leader.Alec Fenton is a seasoned Cyber Security professional with over 15 years of extensive experience across many IT domains. With a career spanning more than a decade, Alec has honed his expertise in addressing a broad spectrum of cybersecurity challenges, leveraging his analytical prowess and hands-on approach to leadership.Throughout his career, Alec has navigated the intricate landscape of IT security, working across various sectors including managed service providers and private companies. His tenure as an analyst in the cybersecurity space has not only equipped him with a deep understanding of emerging threats and vulnerabilities but has also shaped his leadership philosophy of "lead from the front."Alec's commitment to excellence and his unwavering dedication to staying ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving field of cybersecurity have earned him recognition as a trusted advisor and thought leader in the industry. When he's not immersed in the world of IT security, Alec enjoys spending time outdoors, and help coach his son's baseball/basketball teams.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.For for more information about Cybersecurity Cares, visit cybersecurity-cares.comThe Tomiris cyber-espionage group, which has been under Kaspersky's watch since 2021, has evolved its tactics in a new wave of attacks observed in early 2025. Article #2.CISA has recently added CVE-2021-26829 to its known exploited vulnerabilities, or KEV catalog, marking it as a confirmed threat based on real world exploitation. Researchers at KOI Security have identified a malicious NPM package, which not only performs typical credential stealing behavior, but also includes a new, subtle tactic attempting to manipulate AI-driven security scanners via embedded prompt engineering. Article #2.Iranian state sponsored threat group MuddyWater has launched a new wave of cyber espionage attacks targeting Israeli organizations across sectors including academia, civil infrastructure, engineering, technology and utilities.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

In this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast, we discuss some intel being shared in the LimaCharlie community.For for more information about Cyber Security Cares, visit cybersecurity-cares.comAI is now fulfilling a long-standing hope of security teams: it’s taking over repetitive, low-skill tasks like log reviews, alert triage, and basic investigations.Anthropic has disclosed what it believes is the first documented case of a largely autonomous AI-orchestrated cyber espionage campaign.The new "JackFix" variant of the ClickFix attack is gaining traction, and unlike its predecessors, it combines both social engineering and technical evasion tactics to bypass existing defenses more effectively.Researchers at Morphisec have uncovered a new six-month-long campaign weaponizing .blend files - native to Blender, the open-source 3D modeling software - to deliver a variant of the StealC information stealer.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform.This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

On this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast we speak with Erik Bloch, VP of Security at Illumio, about better tools to combat burnout rate and discuss the reality of AI in security.Erik Bloch has 30+ years of information and cyber security experience, both as an IC and as a leader of teams. “People first” has always been his approach. He has led entire security and IT functions at smaller companies, and been the CISOs leading big teams at larger orgs. Erik also spent time on the product side, trying to make better tooling for people like him. With a mix of security, IT and product under his belt, Erik is at a place where connections, making meaningful change and driving impact in peoples lives, mean a lot to him. The smartest person he knows once said "Problems are really opportunities in disguise"​, and that's something Erik always tries to see.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.

Dr. Cunningham created the influential Zero Trust Extended (ZTX) Framework at Forrester Research, playing a key role in accelerating global adoption of Zero Trust principles across industries and governments worldwide.

On this episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast we speak with Michael Baker, VP, Global Chief Information Security Officer at DXC Technology, about his optimistic outlook on the impact of AI in cybersecurity.Michael Baker is an accomplished cyber security executive with more than 24 years of experience in the field. He is passionate about building high-performing teams and transforming the way cyber risk is managed within businesses. Currently, Michael serves as the Global Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) for DXC Technology. In this capacity, he is responsible for protecting the brand and reputation of DXC Technology, a $14 billion global technology enterprise with 130,000 employees located across 80+ territories.Before joining DXC Technology, he held various leadership positions, including CISO, within the US government contracting and aerospace and defense industry, along with a long career serving clients as a cyber security and risk management consultant. Michael is known for his strategic vision, global program management, and ability to drive operational excellence across end-to end cyber services that provide measurable business value. Visit dxc.com for more info.Support our show by sharing your favorite episodes with a friend, subscribe, give us a rating or leave a comment on your podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by LimaCharlie, maker of the SecOps Cloud Platform, infrastructure for SecOps where everything is built API first. Scale with confidence as your business grows. Start today for free at limacharlie.io.