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Becoming the Product is an APVA-nominated podcast on work, reinvention, purpose, and building a meaningful life.

Hosted by Naya Isichei, the show began as a diary documenting her leap from banking into tech. As her journey has expanded across product, incubation, and entrepreneurship, so has the show. Through honest reflections, Naya blends career, innovation, and systems thinking with faith, motherhood, rest, and stewardship.

It isn’t about having it all figured out, it’s about paying attention to what our experiences teach us.

Season 4: The Product Is Bigger Than the Career.
73 Episodes
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When we step through a career transition, we usually focus on what we're leaving behind or where we want to land next. We rarely pause to ask: what did this season actually give me? In this episode, Naya looks back across her non-linear chapters from banking and remote operations to product management, growth, startup incubation, and founding GigSecure. She explores why no chapter is wasted, how unexpected detours expand your range, and why reinvention doesn't mean starting your capabilities from zero. Listen now on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and share your key takeaway.
For a long time, Naya thought she needed a new career whenever she felt stuck or unfulfilled. But moving from banking to remote operations, product management, growth, and startup incubation revealed a deeper lesson: changing your job title doesn't automatically change how you operate. In this episode, Naya explores the difference between changing your career and changing your operating system, how to view your past experiences as data, and why building systems around your values is what actually creates room to live. Join the conversation and reflect on what kind of life you want your work to support.
What if your career isn't the ultimate destination, but simply the sandbox where your true self is developed? After a multi-month break, Naya returns to unpack why fitting into a single professional title is a trap and how mining your past experiences across banking, remote operations, and startup incubation reveals your real core identity. Tune in to redefine success beyond your job title and learn how to align high ambition with rest, faith, and intentional stewardship. Listen now on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and share your key takeaway.
Not every résumé fits on paper.In this reflective episode, Naya explores how proof, process, and storytelling form the foundation of your modern résumé one that evolves with every lesson, pivot, and product you build.Because in the end, you are the product.Timestamps00:00 – 00:30 — Introduction: “You are the product.”00:30 – 01:00 — The story of being laid off and discovering the power of documentation.01:00 – 02:00 — Point 1: Your proof is your portfolio.02:00 – 02:30 — Point 2: Your process is your brand.02:30 – 03:30 — Point 3: Your story is your strategy.03:30 – 05:00 — Product thinking as iteration, not restarting.05:00 – End — Closing reflections + call to action to audit your proof.Key TakeawaysYour résumé isn’t a document; it’s your proof in motion.Proof builds trust faster than credentials.Your process — how you communicate, plan, and execute — is your real brand.Storytelling helps you connect your past to your next pivot.You’re not behind; you’re just iterating.Key Links:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice BundleSubscribe to the newsletterDM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS
This week, Naya shares her story of pivoting from banking to tech, and the three truths that helped her rebuild with clarity. If you’ve ever wondered if it’s too late to start again, this one’s for you. Spoiler: It’s not. You’re not behind, you’re just iterating.Timestamps:0:00 – 1:00 — Intro: What inspired this episode and the myth of “too late.”1:00 – 1:30 — My layoff story: From banking to blank slate.1:30 – 2:30 — Discovering tech and realizing I’d been doing “product thinking” all along.2:30 – 4:30 — Three truths about pivoting: redeeming your past, choosing curiosity, and building clarity through action.4:30 – 6:00 — Encouragement for anyone feeling behind.6:00 – End — Call to action and community invites.Key Takeaways:Your past experience is data, not detour.Curiosity can be a valid reason to change direction.Start small; clarity comes from doing.You’re not late. You’re iterating.Key Links:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice BundleSubscribe to the newsletterDM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS
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