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Welcome to the 'Business of Dance' with your host Menina Fortunato. Tune in as we dive into insightful interviews with industry experts, sharing personal journeys and career advice for aspiring pro dancers. This podcast is your key to turning your dance dreams into reality.
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Interview Date: March 1st, 2026Episode Summary:Ayesha Orange joins the Business of Dance to share her incredible journey from a late-starting dancer to one of the most versatile performers in the commercial dance world. Starting as a cheerleader in California, Ayesha discovered dance at 17 and trained under legendary choreographer Marguerite Derricks at Tremaine Studios. Despite feeling behind technically, she pushed through self-doubt and quickly found herself working professionally, landing early credits including the film Austin Powers and touring internationally in the musical Fame.Her career exploded as she toured the world with Earth, Wind & Fire and performed alongside major artists including Mariah Carey, Usher, Pink, and Jennifer Hudson. Ayesha shares behind-the-scenes stories from award shows, music videos, and television appearances, revealing the realities of working with artists and choreographers at the highest level of the industry. Now working frequently as an associate choreographer and movement director, Ayesha discusses the transition from performer to creative collaborator. She opens up about confidence struggles, the importance of intuition, the realities of career highs and lows, and the power of simply showing up. Her advice for the next generation of dancers highlights resilience, relationships, and the mindset needed to build a sustainable career in the dance industry.Show notes:0:00 – Welcome and introduction to Ayesha Orange4:05 – Ayesha’s career highlights and early credits7:14 – Touring with Earth, Wind & Fire memories9:20 – Starting dance at 17 through cheerleading11:35 – Training under Marguerite Derricks at Tremaine15:52 – Deciding dance would become her career19:03 – Alex Magno and key early mentorships21:54 – First major job touring Fame in Germany22:54 – Joining Earth, Wind & Fire world tour28:20 – Favorite choreographers and creative process32:55 – Working with Pink and artist professionalism 39:10 – Confidence struggles early in career 50:31 – Memorable AMA performance story1:11:38 – Navigating career highs and dry spells1:39:10 – Business advice: relationships and intuitionBiography:AYESHA ORANGE is a prolific Dancer, Choreographer, and Movement Director with a career spanning nearly 30 years across the commercial and theatrical landscapes. Known as a versatile "chameleon" of movement, Ayesha’s reputation is built on her ability to execute any style and help bring any creative vision to life, regardless of the scale or medium.Her journey began at 17 under the mentorship of Marguerite Derricks, training at the iconic Tremaine’s studio in North Hollywood. By 19, she had already secured her first film (Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery), her first stage appearance at the Academy Awards, and her first professional residency. Her early career saw her touring Germany in Fame: The Musical and spending three years on a world tour with the legendary Earth, Wind & Fire.As a performer, Ayesha has graced stages from Madison Square Garden to Caesars Palace, appearing with icons including Mariah Carey, Usher, Pink, and Jennifer Hudson. Her extensive credits include over 20 films, 40 music videos, and 60 television shows, including the Oscars, AMAs, and VMAs. Transitioning into leadership, she has served as an Associate Choreographer for global stars like Rihanna, The Weeknd, Sia, and Selena Gomez.From 2023 to 2025 Ayesha served as the Rehearsal Director for the Los Angeles Contemporary Dance Company (LACDC), where she bridges the gap between creative vision and technical execution. From world tours to burlesque, and from performing on-camera to guiding artists through their own movement language, Ayesha remains a foundational force in the dance community.Connect on Social Media:https://www.instagram.com/aorange/
Interview Date: February 22nd, 2026Episode Summary:In this interview, Maycee Steele shares how she went from being a Kansas City convention kid to building a sustained LA career—booking major moments like Taylor Swift (Billboard Music Awards), Doja Cat (Coachella), and working with J.Lo, before becoming widely recognized through Tate McRae’s tour. She breaks down what tour life actually looks like (buses, no hotels, arena call times), how relationships and reputation lead to direct bookings, and why branding (including her red hair era) can help you stand out—but only if the training and consistency back it up.She also gives practical advice on moving to LA, networking, staying versatile, protecting your mental health on long jobs, and building multiple income streams through brand deals and social media representation (CAA)—plus the reality check that even at a high level, you may still have to audition (like she did for Demi Lovato).Show notes:0:00 — Official intro + major tour credits8:02 — Convention circuit wins: Velocity + Radix12:13 — Moving to LA with two-year deadline13:01 — Assisting Kyle Hanagami; early LA grind13:36 — First big break: Taylor Swift BBMAs14:26 — Doja Cat Coachella career momentum15:24 — Career peak pre-COVID slowdown16:10 — Red hair branding strategy explained18:16 — J.Lo era; reverting to brunette20:18 — Booking Tate McRae tour process23:38 — Tour chemistry + family dynamic31:42 — Tour bus life + arena schedules39:10 — Brand deals vs. tour income breakdownBiography:Maycee Steele is a Los Angeles based professional dancer from Kansas City known for her powerful stage presence and strong on camera performance quality. She has performed on The Oscars, The Grammys, the Billboard Music Awards, and the Latin American Music Awards.Maycee has completed three major international arena tours, including the Think Later World Tour and the Miss Possessive Tour with Tate McRae, and a world tour with Maluma. She also recently booked the Demi Lovato Tour, further solidifying her status as a top tier commercial touring dancer.Her music video credits include She’s All I Wanna Be and It’s Ok I’m Ok by Tate McRae, and No Broke Boys by Tinashe.Throughout her career, she has performed alongside global artists including Jennifer Lopez, Doja Cat, Taylor Swift, Maluma, and Dove Cameron. Maycee is also recognized for co creating the viral #CuffItChallenge, and she continues to expand her career across touring, television, film, and digital media.https://www.instagram.com/mayceesteele/
Interview Date: February 1st, 2026Episode Summary:Broadway veteran Curt Hansen shares his journey from a quiet kid in small-town Wisconsin to starring on Broadway in Hairspray and spending eight years in Wicked as Fiyero. Along the way, he opens up about booking early, being recast from Nickelodeon’s Big Time Rush, working alongside Ariana Grande before her pop superstardom, and learning how to handle the mental side of auditioning.Now the founder of 567 Sing, Curt helps dancers become confident, audition-ready triple threats. In this episode, he breaks down practical strategies for choosing audition songs, building vocal strength, managing nerves, and balancing singing with intense dance schedules. It’s an honest, motivating conversation about preparation, resilience, and why singing “isn’t that deep”—if you do the work.Shownotes:0:00 – Welcome + how Curt and Menina connected through Instagram 9:15 – Small-town beginnings: choir sparks his performing path11:29 – Open call breakthrough → booking Hairspray on Broadway 16:07 – Big Time Rush: cast, recast, and resilience20:06 – Ariana Grande story + booking Wicked as Fiyero22:23 – Eight years with Wicked: tours, Broadway, meeting his wife27:18 – Why dancers must learn to sing (and how to start)37:24 – Choosing an audition song + preparation strategy1:00:00 – Balancing intense dance training with vocal goals1:09:17 – Final advice: treat auditions like performances, not pressureBiography: Curt Hansen is a Broadway performer with a 15-year professional career across theatre, television, and music. He’s appeared in Broadway shows including Hairspray as Link Larkin, Kinky Boots as Charlie Price, and Next to Normal opposite Tony Award winner Alice Ripley, and was also part of Nickelodeon’s Big Time Rush. His biggest claim to fame, however, was starring as the Winkie Prince, Fiyero Tigelaar, in Wicked on Broadway.After building his career as a true triple threat, Curt now helps dancers develop confident, reliable singing voices through his training platform, 567Sing — teaching singing the way dancers learn best: through structure, repetition, and performance-ready skills.Connect on Social:https://www.instagram.com/curt_hansen/
Interview Date: February 8th, 2026Episode Summary:In this powerful and entertaining episode of The Business of Dance, Menina Fortunato sits down with legendary casting director, choreographer, and creative producer Tony Gonzalez (Tony G). With credits spanning the Bring It On franchise, Olivia Rodrigo’s “Good 4 U,” Britney Spears’ Femme Fatale Tour, Wayne’s World, The Birdcage, The Masked Singer, and Kids Bop, Tony shares the real story behind his decades-long career in Hollywood. From being told he was “too short” and “not the look,” to building an empire rooted in hustle and business savvy, Tony proves longevity comes from mindset—not just movement.Tony dives deep into the difference between being talented and being bookable, why dancers must understand they are a business first, and how listening (ears before movement) is the true audition superpower. He unpacks pivotal career moments—including being fired from the first Bring It On film only to choreograph the next six installments—and how advocating for dancers’ pay shaped his reputation.From TikTok virality (“Unk” with 315K+ followers) to creative directing large-scale productions, Tony reminds dancers that opportunity is everywhere—not just in LA or New York. This episode is perfect for dancers who want longevity, leadership, and a competitive edge in auditions, choreography, and beyond.Shownotes:(0:00) – Intro to Tony G(11:50) – Early roots: Soul Train to modern dance(14:11) – Meeting Paula Abdul & industry breakthrough(19:56) – Rejection from agents & pivot to choreography(24:27) – Wayne’s World & Birdcage career milestones(28:32) – Fired from Bring It On, built the franchise(31:29) – Audition advice: ears first, then movement(36:53) – Creative director vs. choreographer explained(43:53) – TikTok fame: “Rooftop Tony” & 315K followers(1:09:16) – Final message: you are the businessBiography:With four decades of genre-shaping experience in entertainment, Tony Gonzalez—better known as Tony G—is a creative force in Hollywood. A casting director, acclaimed choreographer, creative director, and producer, his work spans dance, film, television, and music videos. Tony G has shaped movement and storytelling across more than 360 broadcast television commercials, iconic episodic and sitcom series including The Office, Community, Up All Night, and 3rd Rock from the Sun, as well as feature films such as Universal Pictures’ Bring It On franchise.Known for capturing the essence of movement on screen, Tony G thrives in the moment—crafting, adjusting, and elevating choreography instantly on set. His passion for teaching while creating fuels collaboration and opportunity, resulting in bold staging, electric flow, and unforgettable visual storytelling. Whether on a film, television, commercial, or music video set, Tony G delivers precision, adaptability, and undeniable vibe.Connect on Social Media:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tonygcast/Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gfresh
Interview Date: January 11th, 2026Episode Summary:In this special two-part episode of The Business of Dance, Menina Fortunato sits down with rising professional dancer Jada Specht for an honest, real-time look at what it truly takes to build a career in today’s commercial dance industry. Joining the conversation directly from rehearsals and then again from home, Jada shares her journey from small-town beginnings to touring internationally with Jason Derulo, highlighting the discipline, adaptability, and mindset required to stay booked—and stay sane—on the road.Across the Q&A, Jada offers practical insight into transitioning from the competition world into professional work, emphasizing diversified training, research, and preparation. She breaks down what actually makes a dancer valuable to major artist teams—beyond technique—including professionalism, kindness, reliability, and being someone others want to spend long days with on tour. The conversation also dives into audition strategy, how she got signed by an agent, the realities of re-auditioning while already on tour, and why showing up—even when not “picked”—can change everything.The episode wraps with candid advice on finances, side hustles, self-care, recovery, and longevity. From warm-ups and flexibility to mindset, consistency, and treating your dance career like a full-time job, Jada’s story is both motivating and grounding. This episode is especially valuable for dancers preparing to move to LA, navigating auditions, or learning how to sustain momentum when bookings feel uncertain.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome + guest introduction(4:52) – Behind rehearsals: re-auditioning while on tour(7:30) – Transitioning from competition to professional dancer(10:22) – Researching choreographers, artists, and decision-makers(15:16) – What she’d change: training earlier, broader styles(17:35) – What makes dancers valuable on major tours(21:40) – Moving to LA: fear, readiness, and mindset shift(29:58) – LA checklist: agent, headshots, demo reel, profiles(36:34) – Side hustles, finances, and surviving between bookings(45:43) – Recovery, self-care, and protecting your bodyBiography:Dancing for over 17 years and recently moving to LA to pursue her dreams, Jada Specht has assisted and trained under many industry choreographers that has led her to where she is today. She is currently on tour with Jason Derulo and has worked with artists such as Teyana Taylor, Nelly, Busta Rhymes.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jadaspecht/
Interview Date: December 14th, 2025.In this episode of Business of Dance, Menina sits down with veteran performer and powerhouse industry staple Sarah Mitchell, who joins the conversation nine months pregnant and still glowing (literally). Sarah takes us back to her beginnings in Western Massachusetts—starting dance at two-and-a-half, falling in love with NYC after seeing the Rockettes at age nine, and boldly moving to New York City with limited money but unstoppable determination. From becoming a Patriots cheerleader in high school (and earning a Super Bowl ring) to landing the Knicks City Dancers through a Good Morning America public vote, Sarah breaks down how dance teams can be a career-launching network, training ground, and built-in community for dancers moving to major markets.Sarah shares a full-circle story that shaped her career: after moving to LA with no plan besides “I have to be here,” she booked American Gladiators—only for the dance cast to be cut. That “loss” led directly to her booking a Jell-O commercial, meeting Jerry Slaughter, and soon finding herself dancing with Christina Aguilera—the same artist she once watched from the audience dreaming of being on stage. From there, the episode dives into Sarah’s long-running work with major artists and productions, including Christina Aguilera (spanning roughly 2007/2008 to 2024), Britney Spears’ Vegas residency, Burlesque, and the realities of auditioning, touring, and navigating the emotional highs and lows of a freelance performance career—especially as life expands into marriage and motherhood.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome(7:01) – Full intro: Sarah Mitchell’s career highlights(11:40) – Early beginnings: Western MA, Rockettes inspiration(12:30) – Patriots cheerleaders, Super Bowl ring, early confidence(13:17) – Knicks City Dancers + Good Morning America vote(17:01) – Cross-country move to LA, starting from scratch(20:26) – American Gladiators canceled → pivotal career shift(22:28) – Booking Christina Aguilera through Jerry Slaughter(30:15) – Burlesque stories: doubles, endurance, golden time(50:37) – Q&A wisdom: preparation, mindset, longevity, balanceBiography:A dancer and choreographer with over 20 years of experience, Mitchell has toured and performed with artists such as Christina Aguilera, Katy Perry, Pitbull and Dua Lipa. She co-starred on the E! Network’s The Dance Scene and has had featured appearances in films such as Burlesque, La La Land, and Music and Lyrics. Sarah performed with Britney Spears in her Las Vegas residency “Piece of Me” for five years, and has appeared on numerous television and award shows including The Voice, Dancing with the Stars, American Housewife and Oprah. For the last decade, Sarah has worked with the NFL and choreographed for the NBA, including multiple NBA All Star Game performances. She recently worked as movement director for Olivia Rodrigo, Christina Aguilera’s new perfume campaign and Aveda. Sarah is also a producer as well as an editor and a mother.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamsarahmitchell/
Interview date: December 7th, 2025Episode Summary:Brooke Lipton—Emmy-nominated choreographer and longtime Hollywood Vibe faculty member—joins Business of Dance to share her journey from booking her first professional job at 12 to building a lasting career in dance, television, and choreography. She reflects on moving to Los Angeles at 18, training relentlessly, learning how to care for her body, and developing the discipline needed to survive in a competitive industry.Brooke opens up about touring with Britney Spears, becoming a young mother, and making the pivotal transition from performer to choreographer. She breaks down how assisting, understanding life on set, and respecting every department shaped her leadership style and allowed her to create healthier, more sustainable environments for dancers.In the Q&A, Brooke delivers honest advice on confidence, comparison, and work ethic—urging dancers to go “full out,” attack their weaknesses, stay adaptable, and remember that joy and resilience are essential to longevity in this industry.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome + introduction to Brooke Lipton(6:10) – Career overview: tours, TV, choreography credits(9:46) – Phoenix beginnings + first job at 12(12:30) – Moving to LA at 18, full-time training(14:29) – Health, body awareness, and longevity(17:28) – The haircut moment: identity and visibility(21:54) – Britney Spears tours + touring realities(25:49) – Touring while pregnant, life balance(31:52) – Transition into choreography via Glee(34:33) – Hiring dancers and creating opportunities(45:37) – Advice: fundamentals, weaknesses, discipline(1:17:50) – Closing message: confidence, joy, resilienceBiography:Brooke Lipton’s energy is contagious. Originally known as an exceptional natural dancer, she is now an accomplished choreographer who thoroughly understands the requirements of dramatic TV photography and production.A native of Phoenix, AZ, Brooke was already a rising star in the LA dance scene at the age of 12. She moved to LA to pursue her dream of being a professional dancer, and has since worked with artists including Madonna, Janet Jackson, Beyonce, and Paula Abdul. Brooke toured the world with Britney Spears for over eight years, including the “Dream Within A Dream” Tour, “The Onyx Hotel” Tour and “Circus” promo tour.Later, she was a key member of the choreographic team on the mega-hit Fox TV series “Glee”, starting as Associate and rising to Choreographer over the show’s six seasons, during which the team created more than 750 musical numbers as well as the show’s two live-performance world tours, plus “The Glee Project” unscripted series and “Glee Live 3D The Movie”.Brooke’s work has also been featured on many other major TV series including “Dr. Odyssey”, “9-1-1: Lone Star”, “Dancing with the Stars”, “Lucifer”, “National Treasure”, “Bones”, and “American Horror Story”. Most recently, she choreographed seasons 1 and 2 of the magnificent new Apple+ series “Palm Royale”.As a choreographer, Brooke has worked with such iconic stars as Shirley MacLaine, Carol Burnett, Kate Hudson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kristen Chenoweth and Ricky Martin, and has two Emmy nominations in Outstanding Choreography For Scripted Programming one for “Lucifer” and the other for season 1 of “Palm Royale”.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brooke_lipton/
Interview date: November 30th, 2025Episode Summary:In this Business of Dance interview, Shanie Blais—Montreal-born, LA-based dancer—shares how her career evolved from a small-town studio kid into a working professional with major credits including the Wicked film, the Wicked live performance special, and a stadium/world tour with Karol G. Shanie walks listeners through her early training, her decision to leave Montreal to pursue bigger opportunities, and how she tested both New York and LA in “three months at a time” visits before fully committing.A major focus of the conversation is the O-1 visa journey: what “deal memos” actually are, how relationships and credibility build a strong case, and why being physically present in the market (classes, events, consistent visibility) matters. Shanie emphasizes that success today looks different than past generations—less open calls and more direct booking—meaning dancers must treat social media as their resume while still doing the real-world work of training and networking.Throughout the Q&A, Shanie offers grounded advice on staying versatile, building confidence and social skills, and protecting mental health in an industry that runs in seasons of highs and lows. From navigating London as a newcomer on Wicked to learning how to balance training with rest, her biggest message is clear: show up, be kind, plant seeds without expectations, and trust timing—because when it’s meant for you, it will align.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome + Wicked introduction(4:20) – Montreal roots & competition beginnings(11:31) – Choosing LA over New York(14:59) – O-1 visa strategy & deal memos(22:22) – Signing with an agency in LA(24:17) – First LA booking: Camila Cabello(26:35) – Booking Wicked without audition(30:00) – Direct booking era & social media resumes(37:11) – Touring with Karol G: stadium life(56:19) – Mental health, balance, and longevityBiography:A professional dancer, born in Montreal and based in Los Angeles for the past five years, I live my passion for dance by collaborating with some of the biggest names in the industry. I recently toured the world with the renowned Latin artist KarolG and worked on one of the greatest films,, Wicked. Throughout my international career, I have performed alongside artists such as Doechii, Bebe Rexha, Camila Cabello, Olivia Rodrigo, and Shania Twain. For me, dance is a way to tell stories, connect, and inspire.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shanie_blais/
Episode Summary:In this powerful and deeply insightful episode, Eddie Garcia takes listeners on a journey through his extraordinary dance career—from a tap-dancing kid earning scholarships at Dupre’s to becoming one of the youngest dancers ever selected by Michael Jackson. Eddie reflects on the discipline and versatility that shaped him early on, blending classical training with emerging street styles that positioned him perfectly for the explosion of music videos in the 1980s.He shares behind-the-scenes stories from iconic projects including Smooth Criminal, the Bad and Dangerous World Tours, and his early work with Janet Jackson under Paula Abdul. Beyond the glamour, Eddie opens up about legal emancipation, learning professionalism at a young age, navigating rejection, and understanding the unspoken rules of auditions and touring life.Throughout the conversation, Eddie emphasizes the importance of humility, preparation, financial responsibility, and soul over tricks. He offers invaluable wisdom on longevity, leadership, and why relationships—not just talent—sustain a career. The episode closes with Eddie’s passion for mentorship and giving back through teaching and Camp MIA, reminding dancers that true success comes from authenticity, gratitude, and staying connected to why you fell in love with dance in the first place.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome, introductions, and session overview(9:30) – Early training: tap roots, Dupre’s scholarships(13:10) – Style fusion: breaking, jazz, ballet foundations(16:40) – First break: Janet Jackson via Paula Abdul(19:45) – Emancipation and preparing for adult responsibilities(21:15) – Michael Jackson audition and Smooth Criminal booking(26:40) – Touring young: Bad & Dangerous World Tours(31:00) – Lessons from Michael: timing, presence, musicality(44:00) – Auditions, rejection, resilience, and professionalism(1:49:00) – Teaching legacy, Camp MIA, giving backBiography:Eddie Garcia is an accomplished director, choreographer, dancer and multi-faceted entertainer with a solid reputation for choreography built upon decades of performing internationally alongside many of today’s most celebrated stars. At just 16 years old, Eddie’s incredible dancing style and technique delivered him to the world stage via many projects with Janet Jackson. He danced in some of her most iconic videos and performances of all time, including “Nasty”, “What Have You Done For Me Lately”, “When I Think of You” and the classic “Control” on the American Music Awards.By the time Eddie turned 17, “The King of Pop” himself, Michael Jackson, hand picked Eddie to join him. This began with “Smooth Criminal” and continued with other well known videos like the “The Way You Make Me Feel” and “Speed Demon”. Eddie spent the next five years dancing with Jackson on the record-breaking and internationally acclaimed “Bad” and “Dangerous” tours.It was during those invaluable years of touring and working on countless sets where Eddie fine-tuned his innate ability to direct, produce and choreograph. He has since lent his talent as a dancer and choreographer to many well known artists such as Jennifer Lopez, Paula Abdul, Mariah Carey and Ariana Grande. Eddie Garcia artistic fingerprint that has made him one of the most sought after names within the world of dance. He continues to enjoy engaging in new creative endeavors.
Interview Date: November 16th, 2025Episode Summary:In this insightful conversation, internationally acclaimed dancer, choreographer, scholar, and educator Anabella Lenzu shares the remarkable journey that shaped her 35-year career. Born in Argentina and classically trained in the prestigious Teatro Colón, Anabella traces her evolution from early flamenco lessons to mastering ballet, modern dance, and dance theater across Argentina, Italy, Chile, London, and New York. She opens up about immigrating with limited English, navigating cultural transitions, and building dance companies on multiple continents—including her current artistic home in Brooklyn.Anabella explains how her life as a choreographer, educator, writer, and mother intertwines into one seamless identity, offering dancers powerful lessons on artistic responsibility, lineage, and self-discovery. She breaks down why understanding dance history is essential, how to develop presence and technique beyond “steps,” and the courage required to create your own opportunities—including producing her own solo shows and writing two major books that took over a decade to complete.Listeners will walk away with deep insight into pedagogy, creative research, international work, the reality of running a school, and how to sustain a long-term career anchored in purpose—not trends. This episode is perfect for dancers, choreographers, educators, and anyone seeking to build an artistic life with depth, cultural awareness, and global perspective.Shownotes:(0:00) – Intro & welcome to Anabella Lenzu(1:20) – Early life in Argentina & first training(9:51) – Teatro Colón, ballet roots & modern shift (13:30) – Global travel shaping artistic identity (15:00) – Visa challenges & moving to New York (16:40) – Running a studio, family legacy in Argentina (23:16) – Scholarship, research, and importance of dance history (28:32) – Creating solo shows & artistic self-production(33:14) – Teaching at NYU & curriculum breakdown (37:40) – Her new book: 11 years of researchBiography:Anabella Lenzu, originally from Argentina, is a dancer, choreographer, scholar, and educator with 35 years of international experience across Argentina, Chile, Italy, and the USA. She is the founder and director of Anabella Lenzu/DanceDrama, a New York–based company known for thought-provoking, historically conscious dance-theater. Since 2006, she has created 15 works and presented over 400 performances worldwide. Her award-winning dance films have screened in more than 200 festivals. Recognized by NDEO and NYSDEA for her innovative pedagogy and leadership, Lenzu continues to shape the field of dance education. She is the author of Unveiling Motion and Emotion(2013) and Teaching Dance Through Meaningful Gestures (2025), exploring the body as a vehicle for expression and philosophy.Connect on Social Media:Website: www.AnabellaLenzu.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/anabellalenzu/
Interview Date: November 9th, 2025Episode Summary:In this episode, Menina sits down with Rhonda Kaufman Malkin to unpack how a competition kid from Irvine turned a packed schedule of AP classes, UCLA coursework, the UCLA Dance Team, and three seasons as an LA Laker Girl into a long-term professional career. Rhonda shares how she balanced college with high-level pro work, why she switched from a dance major to sociology, and how booking five jobs in a row her senior year convinced her to go “all in” on dance after graduation.She walks listeners through her journey to Radio City—getting cut from her first Rockette audition, training herself between Disney shows, then booking the tour just before 9/11 and spending 12 seasons with the Rockettes (nine in NYC), seven of those as a swing, memorizing 36 tracks.Now the founder of Fusion Exercise, Rhonda has coached 75 dancers into the Rockettes and trains performers for Broadway, NFL/NBA teams, and precision work worldwide. She breaks down what makes precision dance different (counting, spacing grids, eye-high kicks, stamina), how the current three-day Rockette audition works, and why cross-training, professionalism, and genuine love of dance are non-negotiable. Shownotes:(8:52) Menina’s intro: Rhonda’s journey from UCLA to Rockettes.(14:03) Early life: ballet beginnings, competition team roots.(17:07) Balancing UCLA Dance Team and Laker Girls.(21:55) First agent wins; persistence through audition setbacks.(26:18) Rejection lessons: casting “type” and mindset shifts.(32:07) LA highlights: commercials, Academy Awards with Robin Williams.(37:44) Booking Rockettes post-9/11; touring and NYC seasons.(47:12) Precision dance breakdown: spacing, counting, eye-high kicks.(53:36) Fusion Exercise coaching and modern Rockette audition processBiography:Rhonda Kaufman Malkin is a 1996 honors graduate of Woodbridge High School in Irvine, CA. Rhonda was the first student from WHS to "crack Disney" and win the Outstanding Dancer Award for the Disneyland Creativity Challenge, a competition open to Orange County performing arts students. Her 13 years of dance training lead to a 17-year professional dance career in Los Angeles and New York City. While attending UCLA as a Sociology major, Rhonda performed as a Los Angeles Laker Girl for 3 years and received a championship ring for the 2000 inaugural season at Staples Center. After graduating UCLA in 2000, she attended seminary at Neve Yerushalayim and started her journey into Orthodox Jewish life. She continued dancing professionally, teaching dance, and choreography on the side while being a Radio City Music Hall Rockette for 12 years performing in multiple cities across America as well as Radio City Music Hall in the “Christmas Spectacular.” Rhonda was a Rockette Swing (memorizing all 36 Rockette dance tracks) for 7 of those years. Rhonda developed her famous FUSION EXERCISE fitness method and has trained celebrities including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Karlie Kloss and others. Rhonda’s choreography talents lead her to choreographing for numerous live stage and livestream productions in NYC for Jewish artists Bracha Jaffe and Devorah Schwartz. She was Head Choreographer for Camp Mayor for 8 years, recently taught at the prestigious FAME school—La Guardia High School of the Arts, and Manhattan High School in Manhattan as Head Choreographer and Physical Education Department instructor. She recently choreographed for the Rockette Alumnae Association in “Talent is Timeless” performing off-Broadway at the United Palace Theater in NYC.As a Professional Dance Coach, she is honored to mention that 75 of her students have become Radio City Rockettes and was recently featured on NY’s PIX11 News. This is Rhonda’s 32nd year as a dance educator. She is a wife and mom to 3 kids.Connect on Social Media:TikTok:@fusion_exercise Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/fusion_exercise/
Interview Date: October 26th, 2025Episode Summary:In this uplifting episode, UK-based choreographer, educator, and West End performer Ryan Jenkins shares his extraordinary journey from a late-starting dancer at 14 to performing in some of London’s most iconic productions. Known for his work on Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake, Wicked, Cabaret, Kismet, Phantom of the Opera, So You Think You Can Dance, and Dance Moms UK, Ryan reflects on how perseverance, professionalism, and positivity turned early setbacks into defining milestones.Ryan opens up about the rollercoaster moments that shaped his career—from working retail in London to suddenly joining the original West End cast of Wicked within days, learning the entire show in three days flat. He also shares behind-the-scenes stories from the ballet world, musical theatre, and TV, offering practical insights into casting, mindset, and time management. As a teacher and mentor, Ryan now directs the Elite Associates Program with the Acosta Dance Foundation, founded by ballet star Carlos Acosta, where he helps the next generation of artists reach their full potential.Whether you’re a dancer chasing your first contract or a professional redefining your career path, this conversation is packed with motivation, humor, and heart. Ryan’s message is clear: stay kind, stay ready, and never stop believing in your own timing—because the job meant for you won’t pass you by.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Ryan Jenkins and his West End legacy(7:34) – Joining the original Wicked cast with Idina Menzel(14:37) – Late start in dance at 14 and training at Bird College(16:56) – Making West End debut in Swan Lake with Matthew Bourne(19:22) – From “spritzing perfume” to Wicked in one week(20:30) – Balancing Cabaret, Kismet & Wicked simultaneously(22:21) – Competing on So You Think You Can Dance & Got to Dance(25:17) – Transitioning to choreography and Dance Moms UK(26:19) – Launching Acosta Dance Foundation’s Elite Associate Program(28:44) – Biggest lessons: likability, professionalism, and mindsetBiography:Ryan has worked with the biggest creatives in the world including; Matthew Bourne, Arlene Philips, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Joel Schumacher, Peter Darling and Ashley Wallen. He has also shared the stage with stars such as; Kerry Ellis, Idina Menzal, Adam Cooper, Miriam Margolyes, and Adam Garcia. 2025 Ryan worked for Simon Cowell as casting specialist for Britain’ s got talent. The only teacher in the world to have taught the dancers from the hit US T.V show Dance Moms for Abby Lee Miller and as choreographer for UK TV version Dance Mums with Jennifer Ellison. Most notably known for appearing as a finalist in the top 20 in series 2, So You Think You Can Dance and Got to Dance, before this he had a flourishing career in London’s West End but not before gaining his first job at 19 in Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake. Ryan was appointed as Dance Captain for Grease The Musical UK and European Tour, choreographed by Arlene Philips. Original London cast of Wicked, ENO (English National Opera)- Kismet , London Coliseum. Cabaret' musical Lyric theatre, by Javier de Fructos. Featured dancer - Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Phantom of the Opera the movie, directed by Joel Schumacher and choreographed by Peter Darling.Most recently started a new dance programme with Acosta dance foundation founded by Ballet star Carlos Acosta called Elite Associates. In 2025 he choreographed the music video 'The blossom and the mountain' which has been nominated all over the world in film festivals and won awards.Connect on Social Media:Website: https://www.ryanjenkins.co.ukInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/realryanjenkins/
Interview Date: October 19th, 2025Episode Summary:In this empowering episode, Dana Wilson—dancer, choreographer, creative director, and podcast host—joins The Business of Dance Podcast to share an inside look at her two-decade career working alongside icons like Justin Timberlake, Marty Kudelka, Baz Luhrmann, and Chris Scott. From her early years at the Michelle Latimer Dance Academy to performing on three world tours and serving on the Choreographers Guild, Dana reflects on what it takes to sustain longevity in entertainment while staying grounded in self-awareness, mindset, and creative purpose. She opens up about her first big break assisting Marty Kudelka and performing on Justin Timberlake’s FutureSex/LoveShow, her transition into choreography, acting, and voiceover work (Pinocchio, Elvis, In the Heights, La La Land), and the creation of her Words That Move Me podcast and coaching community. Dana also dives into how the dance industry has evolved—from agency systems to AI and the digital creator era—sharing invaluable advice on processing rejection, developing emotional resilience, and “turning the grave into a garden.” With wisdom, humor, and refreshing honesty, Dana reminds dancers that success is nonlinear, mentorship is invaluable, and feeling your feelings is a superpower.Shownotes:(0:00) – Opening chat: motherhood, dogs, and pre-interview setup(4:00) – Reviewing Dana’s career highlights and credits(8:45) – Starting the session: Justin Timberlake music intro(12:00) – Dana’s early dance training, family background, and move to LA(17:00) – Booking her first tour with Justin Timberlake and working with Marty Kudelka(22:00) – 20 years of collaboration with Justin: tours, SNL, and Super Bowl(27:00) – Creating Words That Move Me podcast + turning rejection into education(33:00) – The power of coaching, mindset, and mental health for artists(42:00) – The Choreographers Guild, AI, and how the dance industry is evolving(54:00) – Q&A: Finding mentors, dealing with rejection, and touring lessonsBiography:"People who call Dana Wilson a “Joy Machine” are not wrong. Her work is a joy to behold and she is a joy to work with.Dana Wilson is a choreographer, performer, movement coach, educator, Apple Top 100 Performing Arts Podcast host, and activist who understands how to move real people.Her work is undeniably bright, refined and classic, yet bizarre with a healthy dose of happy. She works at the highest level across mediums from TV/ Film and Commercials to Tours/ Music Videos, and even Stop Motion Animation/ Motion Capture. From Apple to Amazon, Justin Timberlake to Paula Abdul, Elvis to Pinocchio, her impact is singular and she carves paths for others to shine as well.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danadaners/Website: thedanawilson.com
Interview Date: October 12th, 2025Episode Summary:In this inspiring episode, international choreographer, performer, and TV judge MELCHARLOT shares her powerful journey from Montreal to the global stage. Known for her work with Lizzo, Beyoncé, Cardi B, and her Broadway debut in Holler If You Hear Me, MEL opens up about the challenges, sacrifices, and growth that shaped her as both an artist and mother.She reveals her evolution from competitive dancer to world tour performer, her experiences assisting industry legends like Tanisha Scott, and the life-changing opportunities that led to her judging roles on Révolution and Danse avec les Stars. MEL’s story blends passion with purpose as she discusses her commitment to mentorship, cultural representation, and balancing career with family.Listeners will take away invaluable insights on confidence, leadership, artistic identity, and creative process—from managing time and mental health to trusting your path even when it doesn’t go as planned. Whether you’re a student, professional, or aspiring choreographer, this episode is a masterclass in resilience, authenticity, and the business of dance.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & intro to MELCHARLOT and her global career(6:54) – From Montreal roots to working with Beyoncé & Lizzo(13:21) – Landing Broadway’s Holler If You Hear Me(22:45) – Becoming a judge on Révolution & Danse avec les Stars(41:31) – Performing on the Lizzo World Tour & family support(49:00) – Lessons on leadership, humility, and teamwork in dance(53:40) – Rejection, perseverance, and full-circle So You Think You Can Dance moment(58:30) – Balancing motherhood, marriage, and a dance career(1:06:26) – Creative process: how MEL builds choreography from emotion(1:53:12) – Closing inspiration: mentorship, gratitude & never stop being a studentBiography:Mel Charlot is a respected choreographer, creative director, and celebrated television judge on Révolution (Canada’s #1 dance show) and Danse avec les Stars (Dancing with the Stars in France). Born and raised in Montreal, Canada in a Haitian household filled with music, she discovered her passion for movement at a young age—a passion that has carried her across stages and screens worldwide.Her career has spanned over two decades, evolving from competitive dancer to professional performer, Broadway artist, and now a sought-after choreographer and visionary in the entertainment industry between Canada, US and Europe. Charlot has worked with global icons such as Lizzo, Chris Brown, Beyoncé, P. Diddy, Kanye West, Faith Evans, Omarion, and many others. She has also been featured in major campaigns with Jordan/Nike, L’Oréal, and Makeup Forever, and has choreographed on hit television productions including So You Think You Can Dance, Lip Sync Battle,The Masked Singer and more…A World Choreography Award and UKMVA nominee, Mel Charlot continues to push creative boundaries while mentoring the next generation of dancers and choreographers. She brings a unique blend of artistry, professionalism, and authenticity to every project—whether on stage, on screen, or in the studio.Beyond her career, Mel is a proud wife and mother whose resilience and passion inspire others to live and move with purpose, power, and grace.Connect on Social Media:Website :Www.melcharlot.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/melcharlot/
Interview Date: October 5th, 2025Episode Summary:In this powerful and nostalgic episode, Emmy-nominated choreographer and MTV Award winner Tina Landon takes us behind the scenes of her legendary career shaping the choreography that defined an era of pop culture. From her early days as a Laker Girl under Paula Abdul to becoming the creative force behind Janet Jackson’s “If”, “The Velvet Rope Tour,” and Ricky Martin’s “Livin’ La Vida Loca,” Tina shares the artistry, discipline, and vision that made her one of the most sought-after choreographers in the world.Tina opens up about her journey transitioning from dancer to choreographer, how she built trust with industry icons, and what it takes to bring stories to life through movement. She discusses the evolution of dance over the decades—from the golden age of music videos to the rise of social media—and how professionalism, consistency, and genuine artistry still remain the keys to success.This episode is perfect for anyone striving to understand the bridge between commercial artistry and lasting impact — a true masterclass in dance history and creative leadership.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Tina Landon and her legendary career(3:15) – Tina’s start as a dancer & transition from Laker Girl to choreographer(7:40) – Founding her creative style: working with Janet Jackson & early MTV era(12:25) – Behind “If” & “The Velvet Rope Tour” – storytelling through choreography(22:10) – What makes a dancer stand out in auditions and rehearsals(35:05) – How the dance industry evolved from 90s tours to today’s viral world(50:12) – Professionalism, mindset, and respect in the rehearsal room(1:02:30) – The importance of longevity & self-care for working dancers(1:13:05) – Tina’s message: know your history, learn from the greats(1:16:16) – Gala of the Stars — Tina’s legacy & inspiration for the next generationBiography:Tina Landon is a multi award winning and Emmy nominated creative director/choreographer. She is best known for her sensual yet strong movement that dominated the landscape of dance in music videos and live tours since the mid 90’s. Some of her most memorable and signature moves can be seen on artists like Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Rihanna, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, Ricky Martin, Britney Spears and Shakira to name a few.Tina’s love and passion for dance began as early as she can remember when her mother of Mexican-American heritage and lover of dance and music, made sure her children would fare better by mandating dance lessons in their household. Falling in love with dance and yearning for more, Tina left her home in Lancaster, California to pursue her dreams in Hollywood. Auditioning for various dance productions around town, she landed a gig as a Laker Girl. She was well on her way, yet what could be considered a “big break” would be just the beginning when she was booked as a principal dancer for Michael Jackson’s “Smooth Criminal” music video.Tina’s hard work and commitment eventually landed her many dance roles in various music videos including her first spot as a touring dancer on Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation Tour. She eventually went on to choreograph Janet’s next two world tours “Janet” and “The Velvet Rope” which earned her an Emmy nomination for the HBO special. She has also directed and choreographed national and world tours for many other artists. Tina is a 9-time MTV Choreography Award nominee and a 2 time MTV Award recipient for Michael and Janet Jackson’s “Scream” and for Ricky Martin’s “Livin La Vida Loca’.Her latest passion is giving back and helping young dancers navigate careers in the music industry by sharing and coaching them through her extensive experience and knowledge.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamtinalandon/
Interview Date: September 28th, 2025Episode Summary:Strength & conditioning coach and dance athleticism specialist Karl Flores joins the Business of Dance for a science-meets-studio deep dive. Karl traces his path from competitive dancer to Equinox trainer to founder of Movement Society in Los Angeles, explaining how structured training, recovery, and style-specific programming extend dancers’ careers. He unpacks the “artist-athlete” mindset, common conditioning mistakes, injury-prevention fundamentals, and a practical training pyramid (aerobic base → strength → power). In Q&A, Karl tackles motivation, off-season vs. in-season “microdosing,” hypermobility strategies, rehab priorities, and genre needs—from ballet posture to breakers’ shoulder stability—closing with how dancers can work with him online.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Coach Karl Flores and his expertise(5:49) – Karl’s journey from collegiate dancer to strength coach(9:05) – “Artist-Athlete” mindset: merging creativity and physicality(11:55) – Common dancer mistake: not strength training consistently(13:58) – Injury prevention through structured programs and recovery(15:36) – Ballet vs. breaking: training by style and muscle focus(17:30) – The three-tier pyramid: endurance, strength, power(20:23) – Mindset, confidence, and aligning body with intention(23:13) – Longevity: how training extends dance careers(34:12) – Off-season vs. in-season “microdosing” workout strategyBiography:Karl Flores is a Los Angeles–based strength and conditioning coach with over 10 years of experience, specializing in bridging the gap between athletic performance and dance. With a background in competitive dance, kinesiology, and exercise science, Karl is passionate about helping others unlock their fullest potential and achieve the best version of themselves through movement.Over the course of his career, Karl has worked with professional dancers, world tour performers, freestyle battle champions, and Grammy Award–winning music artists. His expertise spans injury prevention, musculoskeletal rehab, functional training, and optimizing both athletic and dance performance.Training Specialties:Injury PreventionMusculoskeletal RehabFunctional TrainingAthletic & Dance PerformanceStrength & ConditioningEducation & Certifications:B.S. in Kinesiology & Exercise Science (Physiology Minor)Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (CSCS)DBC Level 1Functional Movement Screen Level 1Kettlebell AthleticsTriggerpoint TherapyViPRPrecision Nutrition Level 1 (Pn1)Progressive Bodyweight TrainingDynamic Sports Performance Certified CoachKettlebell Coach University L1Functional Range Conditioning (FRCms)Functional Range Assessment (FRA)Karl’s mission is simple: to empower artist-athletes with the tools, science, and confidence to perform at their highest level, while building longevity in their craft.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karl.flrs/
Interview Date: September 14th, 2025Episode Summary:In this inspiring conversation, Carol Borjas Cantrell shares her remarkable evolution from a Venezuelan rhythmic gymnast to touring the world as a professional dancer and raising the next generation of talent, including her daughter Kylie Cantrell (Disney’s Descendants: The Rise of Red).Carol walks listeners through her early ballet training, her scholarship to Tremaine in Los Angeles, and how she built a 30-year career dancing for icons such as Paul McCartney, Lou Bega, and Brian McKnight. She opens up about adapting to the U.S. industry, navigating agencies and visas, and the lessons that have shaped both her and her daughter’s artistic paths.Throughout the episode, Carol offers practical insight on auditions, tour life, staying “camera-ready,” and balancing motherhood with a professional career. Her message to dancers is simple but powerful — prepare relentlessly, stay grounded, and do the brave thing, even when the path ahead feels uncertain.This episode is perfect for dancers, parents of young performers, and aspiring pros who want an inside look at what it takes to sustain longevity in the ever-changing dance world.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Carol Borjas Cantrell’s journey(3:44) – Tour credits with Paul McCartney, Brian McKnight & Lou Bega(10:51) – Early training in Venezuela & rhythmic gymnastics foundation(13:56) – Tremaine scholarship & moving to L.A. at 17(16:50) – Audition evolution: from in-person to self-tapes(21:37) – Visa journey & path to U.S. citizenship(29:32) – Tour highlights & behind-the-scenes moments(35:18) – Advice for Kylie on tour life & balance(47:42) – Teaching resilience & confidence to young performers(1:26:19) – Closing words: live your passion & stay camera-readyBiography:This Venezuelan born dancer/choreographer has over 20 years experience. She began with ballet and contemporary dance. Carol also trained in Rhythmic gymnastics for 12 years receiving numerous honors… including, five consecutive years, Venezuela’s “Best Gymnast”. Once she moved to Los Angeles she began working in the industry with artists like, Paul McCartney, (World tour), Country icons Brookes and Dunn, Hip Hop legends: Will Smith, P Diddy, Snoop Dogg, LL Cool J. Brian Mc Night etc.
She has appeared in movies like Austin Powers, Cinderella Story & more. She hosted an Entertainment Television show called “Hablemos De Cine” on Azteca America, interviewing both Spanish and American celebrities. She has done several national TV commercials including Dodge Durango with Will Ferrel, Gain Detergent, AT&T, Pepsi, Sprite and many more. In television she has danced on MTV Movie Awards, Guys Choice awards, Image Awards etc. She appeared on television series like Alias, American Idol to name a few. For the past seven years Carol is the choreographer of a Spanish TV network ( Estrella TV) Choreographing, and appearing and some of the shows including the Spanish version of Dancing with the Stars, and Los Premios de la Radio a la musical regional Mexicana.Carol also had a special appearance, on the ABC series,"America's Got Talent.”Carol has appeared on several Warner Brothers productions for the famous series “Gilmore Girls” also Netflix shows “Fuller House”, “Jane the Virgin” and Show Time series “Penny Dreadful” and she recently also appeared on the new prequel “Dexter”.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caroljborjas?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
Interview Date: August 24th, 2025Episode Summary:In this captivating conversation, Juliet Prowse, author of Born to Dance, joins The Business of Dance Podcast to share the untold story of her legendary aunt, the late Juliet Prowse — a trailblazing British-South African dancer and actress who conquered Hollywood, Las Vegas, and Broadway.From performing alongside Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley in Can-Can and G.I. Blues to headlining her own million-dollar Vegas residency, Big Juliet redefined what it meant to be a female entertainer in a male-dominated era. Little Juliet takes listeners behind the scenes of her research journey — discovering a red suitcase of letters, interviewing former collaborators, and piecing together the life of a woman who never waited for permission to shine.The discussion unpacks the discipline, athleticism, and business savvy that made Juliet Prowse one of the highest-paid performers of the 1970s, plus stories of her engagements to Sinatra, her friendship with Elvis, and her unstoppable work ethic that kept her dancing until her final days.This episode is perfect for dancers, musical-theatre artists, and history-minded creatives who want to learn from one of the greats — and be reminded that success is built on grit, artistry, and courage to create your own opportunities.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Juliet Prowse interview(3:00) – Little Juliet shares the story behind her famous name(13:18) – Discovering a red suitcase & inspiration to write Born to Dance(16:00) – Big Juliet’s early Hollywood years & Vegas debut(21:03) – Athleticism, costuming, and Bob Mackie’s extravagant designs(25:39) – Breaking barriers: creating her own Las Vegas show(31:22) – The million-dollar Desert Inn contract & Vegas legacy(36:29) – Life, love & rumors — Sinatra, Elvis, and beyond(41:23) – Performing through illness & leaving a lasting impact(1:03:00) – Lessons for today’s dancers: hard work, creativity, & legacyBiography:Juliet Prowse never intended on becoming an author, but when she spotted a little red suitcase in her parents’ attic, filled to the brim with articles about her famous aunt, the dancer/entertainer Juliet Prowse, she felt she just had to tell this story.As a seasoned communications professional, Juliet was used to writing, but to ensure the authenticity of her first book, Juliet waded through over 1 000 newspaper articles and letters, largely written by her dancing aunt to her mother (the author's grandmother), and spoke to over 20 people who had performed with Juliet. Known as Big Juliet and Little Juliet in the Prowse household, Little Juliet inherited her aunt’s athleticism and became a South African runner, but she was never as graceful as her famous aunt who was born to dance.Juliet has an MBA from the University of Cape Town and a science degree from the University of Nebraska. She lives in Cape Town where she is an avid theatregoer and sports lover.Connect on Social Media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61572702340283Website: www.julietprowse.com
Interview Date: August 10th, 2025 Episode Summary:In this powerful and uplifting episode, we sit down with Aubrey Fisher — dancer, recording artist, and creative powerhouse — who went from teaching himself choreography in his living room to sharing stages with Jason Derulo, Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, DaBaby, and Tyga.Aubrey opens up about his unique path into the entertainment industry, revealing how he went from a college basketball player to one of the most recognizable names in commercial dance. Raised by a musical family, including his mother Angie Fisher, a Grammy-nominated vocalist, Aubrey shares how faith, discipline, and divine timing shaped his evolution as both a performer and a person.He takes listeners behind the curtain of tour life — from the long rehearsals and creative highs to the loneliness and grind that come with chasing big dreams. Aubrey also discusses how he transitioned from dance into music, using his platform to inspire and connect through storytelling, vulnerability, and sound.Throughout the episode, Aubrey drops gems on consistency, humility, networking, and staying grounded, while encouraging the next generation of dancers to embrace their individuality and to never give up, even when the path isn’t linear.This episode is perfect for dancers, aspiring choreographers, and creatives who dream of turning passion into purpose — and proof that you don’t need a traditional background to make it to the topShownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & intro to Aubrey Fisher’s journey(9:30) – Growing up dancing & balancing basketball dreams(11:56) – First dance class at Millennium Dance Complex(15:01) – Creating videos & finding confidence through content(18:37) – From 2017 videos to viral success(20:43) – Influence of Grammy-nominated mom, Angie Fisher(23:26) – Joining Jason Derulo’s tour & worldwide travel(27:14) – Tour life highs, lows & mental balance(35:04) – Industry lessons: business, ethics & awareness(1:29:49) – Final advice: stay humble, authentic & resilientBiography:Aubrey is known for his phenomenal dance skills and captivating stage presence, but now he’s taking the music world by storm. A rising star creating his own lane with a sound of music, singer, songwriter and professional dancer. Aubrey is a recording artist from Pasadena, California. At a young age, Aubrey was very much surrounded by music and entertainment by his Mother "Angie Fisher". A Grammy nominated singer who performed background vocals for Michael Jackson, Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Lopez, Missy Elliott, Keisha Cole, Jamie Foxx, Michael Bublé and many more. Aubrey played basketball in college for one year to later quit to pursue his career as a professional dancer at the age of 19. Aubrey has made a remarkable fan base on social media and has accomplished many success in the dance industry and worked on jobs like Super Bowl, Samsung, Toyota Corolla commercial, Pacsun, Celsius, and many more. Aubrey has also worked with artists like Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, Dababy, Travis Scott, Jason Derulo and more. After a few years of working in the industry Aubrey has decided to build his career in music and says he wants to be the next “superstar”. Aubrey believes that he can make a huge impact in music starting off as an independent artist. Aubrey is an r&b, pop and hip-hop powerhouse vocalist and loves to create music for people to feel alive, happy, soulful and energetic. Aubrey is very versatile and loves to explore different styles of music, not only for himself but for the listeners as well.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_aubreyfisher/
Interview Date: August 3rd, 2025Episode Summary: Choreographer/director Lindsey Blaufarb (half of LNC Collective) maps the leap from touring dancer to Emmy-nominated creative. A military kid who moved often, she found community through arts, earned an Urban Jam scholarship, then moved to L.A. at 17 to attend Hollywood High and the EDGE program—surviving on bar-mitzvah gigs and big dreams.Lindsey unpacks early heartbreaks and lucky breaks: the Christina Milian switcheroo, saying no to Britney’s Circus tour to fully pivot, and landing Avril Lavigne’s record-breaking “Girlfriend” video after being invited into Avril’s band. She breaks down real creative direction—styling, staging, lighting, content, team-building—and shares lessons from The Voice, Blue’s Big City Adventure, and directing Pentatonix’s tours.For dancers, she gives today’s playbook: build a brand look, study an artist’s world, post smart on Instagram, DM thoughtfully, be a great hang, and let your originality—and energy—do the talking. Mindset, resilience, and resourcefulness thread through it all.Shownotes:(0:00) – Welcome, Guest Intro, Urban Jam throwback,(9:48) – Late start, moving often, arts community(12:32) – Urban Jam scholarship leads to L.A.(13:55) – Hollywood High + EDGE, solo at 17(21:12) – Christina Milian switch; “everything happens” lesson(28:58) – Turned down Britney tour to pivot(32:31) – Avril invites band; choreographs “Girlfriend”(39:24) – Blue’s Big City Adventure: feature musical(41:51) – Directing Pentatonix tours; Christmas prep(49:40) – How to stand out now: brand, energyBiography:Lindsey Blaufarb is one half of L&C Collective and an Emmy-nominated and two-time World Choreography Award-winning choreographer and director. Her celebrated work spans film, commercials, music videos, television, and live performances, including The Masked Singer, The Voice, America’s Got Talent, and the musical feature film Blue’s Big City Adventure.In music, she has collaborated with top artists such as Karol G, Lykke Li, Pentatonix, Tori Kelly, Jacob Collier, Kelly Rowland, Pink, Blake Shelton, Weezer, Missy Elliot, Ty Dolla $ign, Usher, Miley Cyrus, Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, Ricky Martin, Avril Lavigne, and others, crafting iconic moments like Cee-Lo Green’s Grammy-nominated F** You* music video.Her commercial credits include major campaigns for Target, Apple, McDonald’s, Hyundai, Madden, and a variety of globally recognized brands.Renowned for her originality and trendsetting artistry, Lindsey continues to push boundaries and elevate entertainment across every medium.Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/im_lindseyb?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Website: https://www.clcollective.net/























