The Newfangled Lawyer

About Megan: Megan Senese, a former Big Law legal marketing and business development professional, is now the co-founder of stage. stage, a women-owned legal marketing and business development firm, specializes in coaching and actionable strategies to boost empathy, revenue, and visibility for lawyers, with a particular focus on women. stage stands out as one of the pioneering in-house legal marketing teams to transition from Big Law and launch an independent venture as a united team. Additionally, stage provides free business development coaching to support working parents before and after parental leave. Megan brings over 16 years of experience in professional services marketing and business development, covering personalized coaching, revenue growth strategies, new team development, co-selling initiatives, programming, and content campaigns for profile building. Her passion and expertise make her a valuable asset in the legal marketing and business development field. https://www.linkedin.com/in/megansenese/ www.stage.guide

About Brian: Brian Beckcom is one of the nation's leading trial lawyers as well as a Philosopher and Computer Scientist. Brian is the founder and host of "Lessons from Leaders," a podcast that features national and international leaders. He received degrees in Computer Science and Philosophy from Texas A&M. Brian graduated with honors from the University of Texas School of Law. Brian is the founding partner and owner of VB Attorneys in Houston, Texas. He is an accomplished golfer, fly fisherman, author, Dad, and husband.

About Chris: Chris Valdheims is an entrepreneur, writer, podcaster, and lawyer dedicated to helping creative people turn things into reality. While he does a lot of this through his innovative law firm, Counsel for Creators, he also shares insight into the creative process on his podcast. Chris has long been an innovator in the legal field, and is well known for pioneering one of the first viable subscription/based law firms. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisvaldheims https://counselforcreators.com

About Chad: Chad is a Coach, Advisor and Speaker. His mission is to help everyone he can uncover their natural gifts, so they are more successful and fulfilled in their career. Chad has shared his message and tools with individuals and organizations around the world, including Google and on the TEDx stage. He is the host of the What You’re About podcast and is a former General Counsel and Lawyer in a national Law Firm. linkedin.com/in/chadaboud https://www.chadaboud.com/

About Lauren: Lauren is a consultant lawyer, Human Design guide and career strategist. As the creator of Legally Different, Lauren's mission is to support legal professionals to create careers, businesses & beyond by design. Powered by a passion to; transform the one-size-fits-all model for success, create feelings of true personal fulfilment and improve team & collective working dynamics, Lauren’s work marries soul-level depth with strategy & pragmatism to inspire, empower & equip people to understand and leverage their innate blueprint for success. www.legallydifferent.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-kay-o%E2%80%99sullivan-96139570/

About Anastasia: Yale-trained tax lawyer turned lawyer lifecycle expert, with broad knowledge of law firm practice, in-house legal talent, alternative legal services and technology, and academia. Currently leading innovation efforts at Utah Law, and previously held transformational and change management roles at Practical Law, Axiom and Yale Law School. Obsessed with how we teach and train lawyers and prepare them to lead. Fascinated by the legal service model - its limitations and its possibilities. Passionate about facilitating the success of others through operational efficiency and talent optimization. https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastasiaboyko/

About Paul: Paul Karvanis is a recovering lawyer, an author, speaker, and coach. He practiced as a corporate lawyer for 12 years (in private practice, in-house, and government). He's been coaching for 6+ years and has created The Happy Lawyer project, where he has interviewed over 100 lawyers, determined the blueprint to being happy as a lawyer, and put it all into his new book The Happy Lawyer. https://www.linkedin.com/in/karvanis/ https://leaderrising.com/

Cross-over episode alert 🚨 Join me and The Legal Burnouts, Kate Bridal and Rhia Batchelder, for this collab episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. I play part host/part guest where I share my own relationship to burnout and shifting paradigms. This episode is filled with big laughs, vulnerability, and nuggets of wisdom. About Kate: Kate is a former attorney, cohost and cofounder of The Legal Burnouts Podcast, and creator of the Living With Lecter video series on TikTok and Instagram. After graduating from Cornell Law School in 2018, she pursued her passion for helping people by practicing housing law at a nonprofit. When the work burned her out, she switched gears to marketing in legal tech, which is where she discovered her love of content creation. She hopes to continue to help people by being open about her burnout and anxiety (and by making them laugh with silly videos about Hannibal). Kate is a big proponent of the non-linear career path. Prior to law school, she attended drama school at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in Los Angeles, and undergrad at Central Washington University, where she worked with three chimpanzees who spoke American Sign Language. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-bridal/ https://www.thelegalburnouts.com/ About Rhia: Rhia Batchelder is an ICF-certified anti-burnout career coach, corporate wellness speaker and consultant, and former BigLaw attorney. She specializes in helping professionals thrive in their careers by prioritizing fulfillment, confidence, stress reduction, and stress management, while consulting with companies on making anti-burnout culture shifts. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannon-batchelder-b5424a22/ www.rebuildwithrhia.com

Join Albert and I for an awesome conversation about the excitement of learning new things and using that as a foundational part of practicing law. About Albert: Albert Tawil is the Founder & CEO of Lateral Hub, the popular job board for laterals to find jobs at top firms, and Summer Associate Hub, a free resource and content hub for law students to navigate the BigLaw recruiting process. Albert is a former IP/Technology Transactions associate at Cleary Gottlieb and Fenwick & West in New York. https://www.linkedin.com/in/albert-tawil/ lateralhub.com summerassociatehub.com

Join me and Adriana Paris, the only other attorney that might say "dude" more than I do, in the 29th Episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. We chat about productivity, recovering attorney life, yoga, discovering who you are, and so much more! About Adriana: As the Director of Attorney Development and Recruiting at Rissman Law, Adriana oversees the hiring, training, and retention of lawyers who share our firm's values and vision. She has more than 10 years of experience as a civil litigator, working in-house and at two large law firms, where she handled complex and high-stakes cases across various industries and jurisdictions. She also wrote "Rising Lawyer," a practical guide for law students and junior associates who want to succeed in the legal profession. Earlier this year, Adriana ventured into the world of coaching where she works 1:1 with lawyers on productivity, implementing better time skills & reworking their daily routines in order to create more time for their personal lives. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianaparis/ adrianaparis.com

Pat and Pat on a Podcast. Pat Veilleux moved with his family from Canada to Costa Rica to embrace his family's motto of live life like an adventure. That same ethos and theme shows up throughout our conversation. About Pat: Pat is a Fractional General Counsel with over 16 years of experience as a commercial and technology lawyer. Currently living in Costa Rica, Pat runs a successful virtual law practice that is among the most fulfilling work of his career. In 2023, Pat made the transition from being a successful in-house attorney at Shopify to establishing his own practice. He believes that lawyers should be accessible and responsive, with an enabler attitude that gets excited about sales and products. He is part of the trailblazers breaking down the barriers of the billable hour, advocating for a practice that doesn't rely on personas. https://veilleuxlaw.co/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/pat-veilleux-967845186/

In this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino sits down with guest Jonah Perlin to explore the windy road of the professional journey. Jonah, the host of "How I Lawyer," shares insightful perspectives on how lawyers can navigate their professional paths with flexibility and resilience. They discuss the evolving roles of fathers in the legal profession and society, challenging traditional perceptions and embracing the idea of being an active, present parent. Jonah reflects on his experiences in private practice, transitioning to academia, and the surprising journey of launching and sustaining his podcast. They touch on the power of narrative in legal education and the importance of sharing diverse stories to inspire the next generation of lawyers. The conversation delves into the importance of storytelling in the legal profession, emphasizing the value of diverse narratives and experiences. Jonah highlights the need for lawyers to share their stories authentically, disrupting confirmation biases and inspiring the next generation of legal professionals. Patrick and Jonah discuss the evolving perception of creativity in the legal field, challenging traditional notions of success and highlighting the role of problem-solving and innovation. Drawing parallels between sports and law, they explore the mindset of high-performing individuals and the importance of embracing the unexpected twists and turns in one's career. With anecdotes from their own journeys, Patrick and Jonah offer practical advice for lawyers seeking fulfillment and purpose in their professional lives. From embracing uncertainty to finding joy in the unexpected, this episode inspires listeners to embrace the winding road of legal careers and seize opportunities for growth and self-discovery. Tune in to gain valuable insights into the evolving landscape of legal careers and discover how embracing uncertainty can lead to new possibilities and personal fulfillment. About Jonah: Jonah Perlin is an Associate Professor of Law, Legal Practice at the Georgetown University Law Center. Jonah teaches and writes about legal communication, legal ethics, and technology of law. Jonah is also the host of How I Lawyer, a Top-25 Careers Podcast where he has conducted more than 125 interviews with lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well. Previously, Jonah was a litigator at Williams & Connolly LLP and a law clerk on the District Court for the District of Columbia and the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonah-perlin-7554025/ howilawyer.com

Guest Tony Albrecht joins host Patrick Patino for the 26th episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast to discuss wandering, taking risks, and finding yourself in the process. From a Guam jail cell to selling all of his belongings and flying to Bangkok to silent retreats in India, Tony has experienced an amazing breadth of living life. Join us as we explore the non-linear life of Tony Albrecht. About Tony: I was a lawyer. Now I run a newfangled marketing agency, ⁠CONTENDER. ;-) https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-albrecht/ Unrationed

In the 25th episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino engages in a candid and insightful conversation with guest Elena Gurevich. The episode delves into the evolving landscape of the legal profession, emphasizing the importance of human connection, authenticity, and soft skills in the face of advancing technology like AI. Elena advocates for a more humane and personalized approach to legal practice, prioritizing civility, and genuine human connection. Throughout the episode, they explore the human side of innovation, discussing how advancements in technology affect individuals on a personal and professional level. The conversation extends beyond legal matters as Elena and Patrick explore the significance of curiosity and personal growth outside the professional realm. From delving into linguistic nuances to reflecting on cultural differences in social interactions, they highlight the value of continuous learning and embracing change. They reflect on their personal journeys of embracing change and staying curious, with Elena revealing how the COVID-19 pandemic transformed her introverted nature into a desire for meaningful connections. Through their dialogue, Elena and Patrick underscore the essence of being a "newfangled lawyer" – someone who embraces authenticity, adapts to change, and prioritizes meaningful connections over traditional norms. Join them for an engaging discussion that challenges the status quo and celebrates the multifaceted nature of the legal profession. About Elena: A multilingual lawyer with a background in intellectual property law, and a keen interest in data protection, AI, and blockchain technology. I am passionate about learning and sharing my knowledge on how these technologies can transform creative industries and the legal profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-gurevich/ YouTube Channel

In this episode, host Patrick Patino sits down with Colin Levy, the Director of Legal and an Evangelist for Malbek. Colin shares insights into humanizing the legal profession, technology in the legal profession, and the importance of empathy in legal practice. Colin discusses his journey from corporate lawyer to legal tech enthusiast, emphasizing the need for lawyers to embrace their innate humanity and emotional intelligence. Drawing from personal experiences, Colin shares how struggles with mental health early in his career shaped his perspective on the legal industry's need for improvement. The conversation delves into the challenges of traditional legal education and the importance of multidisciplinary learning approaches. Colin and Patrick explore the evolving role of attorneys in a dynamic world, emphasizing adaptability and nuance over rigid frameworks. From discussing the quirks of being human to astronomy to the joys of gaming and feline companionship, this episode offers a candid and refreshing perspective on the modern legal profession. Join us as we explore what it means to be a newfangled lawyer in today's ever-changing landscape. Don't miss out on this insightful and engaging conversation between two passionate advocates for positive change in the legal world! Like, review, and share this episode to join the conversation. About Colin: Colin Levy is the author of "The Legal Tech Ecosystem" and the editor of the "Handbook of Legal Tech," serving as a dedicated guide in the legal technology sector. A corporate lawyer by training and well-known legal tech writer and speaker, he has a passion for innovation and technology. Colin has positioned himself at the intersection of business, technology, and law, aiming to illuminate and inspire about the possibilities of legal tech. Currently, as the Director of Legal and an Evangelist for Malbek, and with roles as a legal tech startup advisor and investor, he remains deeply connected to the industry's advancements. https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinslevy/ https://www.colinslevy.com https://www.malbek.io/

Dive into the 23rd episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast with host Patrick Patino and guest Karl Seelbach as they explore the evolving landscape of legal practice. Beyond the buzz of artificial intelligence (AI), Patrick and Karl discuss the broader spectrum of innovation reshaping the legal profession. From challenging traditional norms to embracing new technologies, they share insights on how attorneys can adapt and thrive in a changing world. Drawing from their experiences, Patrick and Karl delve into the importance of staying curious and open to new approaches. They highlight the significance of exploring innovative ways to enhance client services and streamline workflows, from remote depositions to virtual practice models. Through engaging anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions, they underscore the importance of embracing change and seeking continuous improvement. Furthermore, Patrick and Karl reflect on the personal and professional benefits of autonomy and agency in legal careers. They discuss the freedom to prioritize family and personal well-being while delivering exemplary legal services. By sharing anecdotes and practical advice, they inspire listeners to find balance, delegate responsibilities, and cultivate a fulfilling professional life. According to Karl, being a Newfangled Lawyer means being willing to set aside traditional norms and explore better ways of practicing law. It involves challenging the status quo, continuously seeking innovation, and embracing new technologies and approaches to improve legal services for clients. Join Patrick and Karl on this insightful journey as they challenge conventional wisdom, share practical strategies, and redefine what it means to be a forward-thinking legal practitioner. Tune in to discover how embracing innovation can empower attorneys to navigate the complexities of modern legal practice with confidence and resilience. About Karl: Karl is a seasoned litigation attorney with over 17 years of experience in the courtroom, representing clients in personal injury and business litigation. He is a skilled advocate and a tenacious fighter who handles cases with precision and an eye towards trial from day one. His adversaries describe him as "skilled" and "whip smart." But Karl's legal expertise doesn't stop there - he's also the founder of Skribe.ai, a software platform for capturing legal testimony that's changing the game for attorneys and their clients. https://skribe.ai https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwseelbach/

Welcome to the 22nd episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast with your host Patrick Patino. In this insightful episode, Patrick sits down with Joel Carney, the Director of Business Development at Cashroom and Of Counsel at Goosmann Law Firm, based in Omaha. Joel's journey from private practice lawyer to Chief People Officer sheds light on the evolving roles within law firms. As a natural people connector, Joel discusses the importance of fostering genuine relationships and adapting to new opportunities in the legal industry. Through engaging anecdotes and insightful reflections, Joel and Patrick delve into the essence of being a "newfangled lawyer." They explore the willingness to challenge conventional notions, take smart risks, and prioritize efficiency in legal practice. Joel shares his insights on the significance of wellness initiatives for attorneys and the value of maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Joel brings a unique perspective to the table, emphasizing the significance of relationships and personal growth in the legal profession. He challenges the stereotype of the hardened attorney, advocating for kindness, boundaries, and a balanced approach to work and life. Drawing inspiration from his family background—where his grandmother served as a trailblazing judge—Joel reflects on the importance of pursuing one's passions and embracing diverse opportunities in the legal profession. He discusses his love for travel, family, and staying active with activities like skiing and Peloton rides. Joel's journey exemplifies the importance of embracing change and focusing on what truly matters in both personal and professional life. Tune in to gain valuable insights into the dynamic landscape of modern legal practice and the importance of staying true to oneself while navigating professional growth. Join Patrick and Joel as they explore the intersection of law, technology, and human connection. About Joel: Young at heart, father of 3, and married for 24 years. I have been in private practice for almost 25 years focusing on litigation and managing my firms. I am an early adopter of new technology and have been on a never-ending quest to find ways to work smarter so I have time for my family and friends. Recently I joined Cashroom as the Director of Business Development. Our accounting and bookkeeping services are tailored specifically for law firms. The outsourcing model has struck a chord with US law firm leaders. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcarney32/ https://www.thecashroom.com/

Join Host Patrick Patino and Guest Robert Ingalls for the 1st episode of season 2 of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. Robert shares how he went from being a dreamer to a dream chaser, taking his dreams and acting upon them instead of just letting them live inside of his head. About Robert: Robert Ingalls is a legal marketing expert, former litigation attorney and LawPods founder. Robert helps some of the world's largest law firms market their firms through podcasting and he can talk about why law firms need to market by constantly mentioning their niche!

Welcome to the season finale of season 1 (20th episode) of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, hosted by Patrick Patino. In this episode, Patrick has the pleasure of interviewing Jazz Hampton, the CEO and co-founder of TurnSignl —an innovative app reshaping the way individuals access attorneys during traffic stops. The podcast delves into Jazz's personal journey from a litigator to an entrepreneurial attorney, exploring the risks, challenges, and rewards of venturing into the world of startups. Patrick and Jazz reflect on the importance of embracing change, thinking creatively, and how Turn Signal's success is changing the landscape of legal services. Jazz's insights shed light on the importance of embracing new perspectives and the fulfillment that comes from making a positive impact in the legal industry. Join Patrick and Jazz for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges traditional legal norms and explores the limitless possibilities for innovation and change in the legal profession. This episode is a testament to the power of reimagining the role of lawyers and creating solutions that prioritize accessibility, safety, and genuine impact. About Jazz: Jazz Hampton is CEO and General Counsel at TurnSignl and an Adjunct Professor at the University of St. Thomas Opus College of Business. TurnSignl is a Minnesota-based tech company that provides real-time legal guidance from an attorney to drivers, all while their camera records the interaction.Hampton has been featured on NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, MSNBC, CBS, NBC Top Story, and was recently named one of Minneapolis-St. Paul’s 40 Under 40 for his work at TurnSignl and in the community, where he sits on the Board of Directors at the Minneapolis Foundation, Catholic Charities Twin Cities, and Great North Innocence Project. He is also a Masonic Institute for the Developing Brain’s Philanthropic Advisory Council member. Finally, Jazz is on the board for the Greater North Innocence Project, and beyond his board position, he is actively representing incarcerated individuals in their legal disputes to prove their innocence and gain their freedom.Before joining TurnSignl, Hampton was the Director of Diversity and Inclusion and a practicing attorney at Foley & Mansfield, a national law firm with 150+ attorneys, as well as an adjunct professor at Mitchell Hamline School of Law, an Emerging Leader within Twin Cities Diversity in Practice, and the Co-Chair of DRI’s Young Lawyer Diversity Committee. https://www.turnsignl.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jazz-hampton/

Welcome to the 19th episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast with your host, Patrick Patino! In this episode, Patrick engages in a captivating conversation with the insightful Esperanza Franco, author of "The Emotionally Intelligent Lawyer." Esperanza shares her unique perspective on embracing vulnerability, tenderness, and a multitude of emotions in the legal field. The conversation takes unexpected turns, exploring the intersection of professional and personal identity, creativity, and the importance of integrating both rational thinking and emotional intelligence. Patrick and Esperanza share their perspectives on the transformative power of pursuing activities without the pressure of being perfect. They delve into the challenges lawyers face, such as the fear of failure and the societal expectations of always excelling. Esperanza encourages law students to explore different paths and emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and curiosity in the legal profession. Esperanza opens up about her personal journey and the spiritual aspects of writing her book. The duo explores the concept of compassion in the legal field, shifting the focus from traditional measures of success to personal fulfillment and shared experiences. Join Patrick and Esperanza on this thought-provoking episode as they unravel the layers of emotional intelligence, professional growth, and the authentic human experience in the legal realm. Don't miss out on the wisdom and laughter this episode has to offer! About Esperanza Esperanza Franco is a Spanish-U.S. immigration attorney, educator, and the author of "Emotionally Intelligent Lawyers: How to Navigate the Psychological Implications of Becoming a Lawyer." She's been featured in the Arizona Attorney Magazine for her series on the lawyer mental health crisis and won the 2021 International Bar Association (IBA) Vlogging competition on Lawyer Well-being. Esperanza is also the founder of Esperanza is Hope, an online platform where she teaches academic strategy, emotional intelligence, and legal writing to law students. For more info, please visit www.esperanzaishope.com.