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Scrolling 2 Death

Author: Nicki Petrossi

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Scrolling 2 Death is a podcast for parents who are worried about social media. Through interviews with parents and experts, we explore smartphone use, screen time, school-issued devices, social media use and so much more.
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What happens when Big Tech gets to decide what our kids learn?Technology companies have worked their way into our schools—not just providing the devices and software, but influencing curriculum, training teachers, lobbying lawmakers, and shaping what educators are told our kids need to succeed.In this episode, I sit down with NY Times journalist Natasha Singer, author of Coding Kids, to unpack how the tech industry sold America on the idea that every child needed to code—and how that same playbook is now being used to push AI into our classrooms.We talk about the viral video featuring Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates that helped launch the coding movement, the billions of dollars and political influence behind computer science education, tech companies recruiting teachers as brand ambassadors, and what happens when the companies building the technology also help decide how it's taught.And then we get to AI. Are we asking whether AI actually benefits kids—or are we simply being told that an “AI-first future” is inevitable and our schools need to prepare for it.Natasha also introduces a powerful alternative: Tech Civics—teaching kids not just how to use technology, but how to question it. Who built it? Who profits? Who benefits? Who could be harmed? And what happens when technology becomes too powerful to challenge?This conversation isn't about keeping technology out of schools. It's about making sure kids—not technology companies—are at the center of decisions about their education.
What happens when two parents who have spent years saying “not yet” to devices finally decide their kids are ready?In this conversation, Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner share their very personal experiences giving their oldest children a first device — the Bark Watch — and why they chose a tool designed for communication without opening the door to social media, browsers, games, or endless scrolling.Joined by Bark Technologies’ Titania Jordan, they talk honestly about what parents are really trying to solve when they give a child a device: staying connected, managing anxiety around pickups and activities, traveling apart, and giving kids a little more independence — without handing them a smartphone.But the conversation goes much deeper. They explore whether constant access to parents can actually get in the way of building resilience, when a watch should become a phone, why delaying smartphones is becoming more normalized, and the uncomfortable reality that even adults struggle to resist addictive technology.They also discuss Apple, addictive design, the need for regulation, and what a healthier relationship with technology could look like for both kids and parents.Most importantly, the three moms share the advice they would give before handing a child their first device — including one message every child should hear: If something goes wrong online, come talk to me. I won't be mad.Because the goal isn't to keep our kids away from technology forever. It's to give them the least amount of technology necessary to solve the problem at hand.‍‍Get the Bark Phone! Monitor your child's iPhone with the Bark App.Get the Bark Watch!
What can parents actually do when their child's school is using too much technology?In the final episode of our Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition back-to-school series, I'm joined by Emily Cherkin, The Screentime Consultant, a former middle school teacher, parent, author, and longtime advocate for healthier technology use in schools.Using questions submitted by parents, we tackle some of the biggest challenges families are facing: excessive screen time, school-issued laptops, i-Ready and other EdTech platforms, YouTube access, AI embedded in school devices, opting out, student privacy, and what to do when a school simply says no.Emily offers practical advice for parents who want to push back without making teachers' jobs harder—and challenges us to rethink the way we approach school technology.Instead of asking schools, "Can I opt out?", she suggests a different approach:"I decline this technology until you can show me that it is effective, safe, legal, and better than teacher-led instruction—and that the evidence is independent, verifiable, and replicable."We also talk about why hearing "no" from your school doesn't have to be the end of the conversation, how parents can organize with other families, when to take concerns to the school board, and why incremental change matters.And Emily makes an important distinction: she isn't anti-technology. She's pro–technology education, not educational technology. Children need to learn how technology works, how to think critically about it, and how to use it responsibly—but that doesn't mean they need unrestricted access to technology throughout their childhood.As Emily puts it, "The best preparation for a digital future is an analog childhood."If you've been wondering how to protect your child's childhood and education in an increasingly digital school environment, this episode is for you.Emily's Substack: First Fish Chronicles Emily's Unplug EdTech ToolkitlScimago Journal Ranking ToolHow to Vet Screentime Research: A 7-Step Checklist from Dr. Jared Cooney HorvathSubstack: What a Recent FTC Amicus Brief Means for EdTechHow to Vet Screentime Research: A 7-Step Checklist from Dr. Jared Cooney HorvathThe Reckoning-- essay about AlphaGet your copy of The Digital Delusion by Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath here.7 Ways to Advocate for a Tech-Safe School Year (A Parent Action Guide)‍You can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.This is the final episode of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we've brought your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.This special series is made possible through a generous donation from Buckets Over Bullying, a nonprofit organization committed to eliminating cyberbullying among children and teens. For additional resources, parent guides, and tools to help you advocate for healthier technology in schools, visit techsafelearning.org.
Part 3 with Dr. Jared Cooney-HorvathIs classroom technology actually helping children learn—or have we accepted a massive educational experiment without the evidence to support it?In Part 3 of our Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, I'm joined by neuroscientist Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath to examine what decades of brain science actually tell us about screens, AI, and learning.Using questions submitted by parents, we tackle some of the biggest debates in education today: Are devices improving student outcomes? How much classroom screen time is too much? Does AI help students learn—or replace critical thinking? And what is all this technology doing to children's attention, memory, reading comprehension, and developing brains?We also discuss Dr. Cooney-Horvath's groundbreaking review of i-Ready, one of the most widely used EdTech platforms in the United States, and why he believes parents and schools should demand stronger evidence before adopting products that shape millions of children's education.If you've ever been told that "kids need technology because it's the future," this conversation will challenge assumptions, unpack the research, and give you the science you need to make informed decisions for your family.This episode is part of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we're bringing your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.Resources mentioned in the episode:Get your copy of The Digital Delusion by Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath here.Jared's Substack: Why AI schools can't tell us why AI worksScimago Journal Ranking ToolSchools Beyond Screens - Parent Teacher CoalitionEd Zitron SubstackYou can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.A special thank you to Buckets Over Bullying who provided a generous donation in support of this mini-series. 
Part 2: Chris McKenna of Protect Young EyesCan your child access YouTube, AI chatbots, or the open internet on their school-issued device? And if so, who is responsible for keeping them safe?In Part 2 of our Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, I'm joined by Chris McKenna, founder of Protect Young Eyes and one of the nation's leading experts on digital safety for children.Using questions submitted by parents, we tackle the biggest concerns families have about school technology, including student privacy, AI, YouTube access, Google Classroom, Minecraft for Education and what children can actually access during the school day.Chris explains what schools are doing well, where the biggest risks still exist, and—most importantly—what parents can do to better protect their children. We also discuss whether parents can opt out of certain technologies, what rights families have when it comes to student data, and the practical questions every parent should ask before signing a school technology agreement.If you've ever wondered whether your child's school device is as safe as you think it is, this episode will leave you better informed and better prepared for the school year ahead.This episode is part of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we're bringing your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.Resources mentioned in the episode:6 Tech Questions to Ask Your PrincipalThe Ultimate Guide to Understanding RoutersMy interview with Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath about i-ReadyBark for Schools - Free monitoring for school-issued devices!You can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.A special thank you to Buckets Over Bullying who provided a generous donation in support of this mini-series. 
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