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Paul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.

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Recondite is one of our favourite guests and here we welcome him for his third appearance on the podcast.We discuss his recent performances at arguably the world's hottest music venue - the Sphere in Las Vegas, and also the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. And we get the inside story on what's going on in melodic techno, an area of dance music that has attracted some of the biggest audiences while being largely ignored by the press.The issue of dance music and popular culture as art is also discussed in detail, as well as the continuing developments in AI in music - both in ethical terms and in the practice of making music.This is a great conversation, get involved!--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingFollowing on from the 'End Of Recorded Music?' episode, this week we take a look at some of the surrounding issues. This is the first time I've done a solo episode speaking to camera and there are some inconsistencies which show up in the audio... check out the video version of this episode on YouTube (or if you're on Spotify then it'll be available here too). --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingSister Bliss is the musical driving force behind one of the biggest dance acts of all time - Faithless.We discuss her early period as a DJ, linking up with Rollo and launching Cheeky Records from home, meeting the late, great Maxi Jazz and forming Faithless. And of course we get into the hits and the differing process of music making over the years.This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK music!00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation03:00 Sister Bliss05:10 Releasing music now vs then07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea09:15 Invisible gatekeepers10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life23:30 Early musical influences29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights33:00 Meeting Maxi36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap41:10 Cheeky Records48:00 Making the first album55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload01:00:40 The future of creativity01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation 03:00 Sister Bliss05:10 Releasing music now vs then07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea09:15 Invisible gatekeepers10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life23:30 Early musical influences29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights33:00 Meeting Maxi36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap41:10 Cheeky Records 48:00 Making the first album55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload01:00:40 The future of creativity01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingBugged Out is one of the UK's best-loved and most enduring club brands. From humble beginnings in Manchester, through Sankeys, Cream in Liverpool, fabric and The End in London, right the way through to their enormous 30th birthday at the 15k capacity Drumsheds in London, this is a promotion that has consistently done things right in terms of the music and the vibe. Johnno Burgess is one of the co-founders, and also the former editor of the legendary Jockey Slut magazine which originally launched the night that became Bugged Out. We discuss the history of the event with its many successes and occasional failures, the changing landscape over the last 30 years, how they booked Daft Punk for free, and we also get into the golden era of the dance press and how it looks in the current era.This is a great conversation with a relatively unsung hero of UK dance culture. Get involved! Grab the new Bugged Out book here--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:13 Episode start02:50 Bugged Out at 3004:54 Changing fashion on the floor07:28 The golden age of dance music journalism12:45 Influencers are the new fanzines18:08 The birth of Jockey Slut24:00 From magazine to club night27:30 The Manchester club scene30:49 Closure of clubs and pop-up spaces36:10 Trust and curation44:12 Nation, Cream and Liverpool47:20 First Bugged Out Weekender52:30 Festival curation55:00 Moving away from Liverpool59:05 The End - 8 defining years01:02:00 When clubs started disappearing01:03:30 Drumsheds, Printworks and mega-rooms01:05:50 The role of private equity 01:13:00 Highs and lows Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThe Sabres Of Paradise were formed in 1992 by Andrew Weatherall, Gary Burns, and our guest on today's episode Jagz Kooner. They burned brightly but briefly, initially disbanding in 1995, but have now reformed (without the late Weatherall) for what Jagz says will be a limited time. We discuss the story of the Sabres, but also Jagz' wider career which covers a lot of ground as a remixer and producer. And we also get into his thoughts on today's scene, and the changes in music making he's witnessed in four decades making tunes. This is a good one! --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:13 Episode start02:44 Sabres reunion08:45 Playing Sydney Opera House11:38 From seated silence to dancing chaos13:05 This song changed lives15:58 Post-Sabres life17:06 Early DJ roots21:36 Machines over bands25:45 A very Jagz birthday29:24 This machine will change the world36:02 The bootleg that changed everything37:30 Andrew Weatherall45:00 Touring and burnout47:30 After the split50:00 Producing for others59:30 Legacy and influence01:03:00 The meaning of the reunion01:07:00 Honouring Andrew Weatherall01:11:00 Looking forward01:15:00 Advice for young producers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThis is a re-up of a podcast we released in mid-2023 which sought to set the table for what was then the coming debate on AI in music and the wider socio-economic world. It's worth returning to because it covers the big issues that I anticipate will be covered on the podcast this coming year, and takes a look at some of the initial intuitions coming into this highly weird period of human history. This stuff isn't going anywhere, and it poses serious questions for what the music industry is for. What are musicians doing making music in this environment? What's the purpose of music in of itself? These are questions I have been asking myself over the last few weeks, and there are no easy answers...--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:30 AI in music and art12:20 Possible developments17:13 Ethics in art22:21 Music's cultural decline27:06 The capitalist bogeyman29:35 Identity vs music43:21 Is all this just moaning? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingA review of some of the stuff that happened in the Year of Our Lord, 2025.Percy Digs instagram as mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/percydigs?igsh=MXM3OGJ0OW9rZDMzbA==All other links and more info on this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-of-2025-147063099--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:50 Track of the year04:45 Conclusions of the year15:20 Album of the year18:46 Book (fiction)22:00 Book (nonfiction)25:14 Podcast episode26:47 Nightclub30:02 Forgotten Hard Rock album33:06 Best gig36:56 Streaming platform40:25 Worst album of the year41:23 Worst track of the year42:00 Coming up in 2026 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingKazim is an artist manager whose clients include Nightmares On Wax, and also the chief creative and brand officer at RA.We discuss the mechanics of creative campaigns for new and legacy artists, the challenge of breaking new music, and the different obstacles in the way of older acts. We also discuss the music media landscape and the role of media in today's industry.This is a rare chance to get the inside track on artist management and big music media platforms... get involved!Music discussed in the episode…https://jitwam.bandcamp.comhttps://anaiis.bandcamp.comhttps://saultglobal.bandcamp.comhttps://nightmaresonwax.bandcamp.com00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:13 Episode start04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms07:55 Death of middle class in music11:35 Successful artists can't tour14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?21:08 Great music always shines through24:04 100,000 songs a day27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal30:46 Success without social media33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms35:30 It’s always been a slog39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist45:00 Power in the catalogue55:00 Working for Warp Records01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way01:04:50 Working at RA01:12:08 The state of Berlin--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:13 Episode start04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms07:55 Death of middle class in music11:35 Successful artists can't tour14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?21:08 Great music always shines through24:04 100,000 songs a day27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal30:46 Success without social media33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms35:30 It’s always been a slog39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist45:00 Power in the catalogue55:00 Working for Warp Records01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way01:04:50 Working at RA01:12:08 The state of Berlin Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingSam Binga is a DJ & Producer from Bristol, UK.Having first emerged in the breaks scene of the early 2000s, in the 2010s he placed himself firmly at the centre of UK bass, with releases on 50 Weapons, Exit and Critical. His sound spans the anthemic rowdiness of tracks like ‘AYO’ and ‘Lef Dem’, to the deeper explorations of his collaborations with Om Unit. He also runs Pineapple Records, a crucial label in the patchwork of soundsystem-adjacent UK electronic music. We discuss the state of the current UK scene, his history through various areas of the UK bass scene, forthcoming music on Pineapple, and a lot more. Get involved! --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:10 Longtime listener first-time caller05:24 2025 recap06:30 Pros and cons of self-releasing11:00 Liking your own music13:30 The producer’s mind17:30 Intuition, magic, and fear of the future24:30 Breakstep30:00 Bao Binga, breaks, and nearly going Dubstep34:00 The death of the alias37:20 Early aspirations, career advice and mountain biking41:41 Early 2000s and lower barriers to entry43:44 Community before social media48:30 What Makes a scene? 52:55 Sankeys, violence, police pressure55:00 Seeing Jeff Mills at Sankeys58:15 The 2010s House era 59:14 The birth of Sam Binga & Exit Records01:08:10 UK Radio culture vs. US01:17:20 Label philosophy: skate-team energy & A&R instinct Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingGuy Brewer, aka Shifted, aka half of Commix, aka Carrier, made an appearance on our previous incarnation, the Not A Diving Podcast, a couple of years ago that was very popular. He returns with a new alias but a similar selection of wise takes on the electronic music scene and the challenges facing everyone trying to operate in it.We discuss the new Carrier album, Rhythm Immortal, the challenge of genre expectations, the disappearing middle class of musicians, the (ir)relevance of record labels, and much more besides.This is a good one!--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:48 Transition from Shifted to Carrier04:48 Creative burnout07:03 Creative Cycles & Starting Over09:31 Musical Influences Behind Carrier12:01 Genre ambiguity 15:04 Creative Rebirth18:01 Industry vs. scene21:01 The middle class of music has gone24:02 Tech and lower barriers to entry27:07 Does personality still matter?31:13 Hard Techno is lifestyle branding34:32 Aesthetics, label identity and scenes38:20 Big tech, democratisation and gatekeeping42:02 Self-release or label chase?48:00 Art and intent53:58 Production philosophy01:00:02 Tools, workflow & sampling vs. modular01:03:10 Creative ruts, flow states & longevity Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!Full details.Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingFrançois X is a key figure in the history of French techno. From his DEMENT3D label and nights at Social Club to his residency at legendary club Concrete, he has helped redefine the music over time and made a huge contribution to its development in Paris and beyond.We discuss all of the above, as well as the state of the scene right now and of course the music.--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation03:02 Episode start04:15 State of Paris clubbing 08:00 Music evolution and changing sounds14:00 Roots of Francois X sound18:00 Repurposing influences19:42 Booking Scuba & Joy Orbison21:00 Concrete: The legendary club32:12 Paris’ club culture identity34:00 Quitting the day job38:00 Disco, House and Techno38:25 The origin of 'Francois X'39:00 House music ruled the roost42:10 Electroclash, French touch and Ed Banger45:00 Soulful to Techy: Records that flipped it48:00 Klockworks, MDR and Dub Techno50:51 Production beginnings 52:25 DEMENT3D and starting a label58:24 How would you start a label now?01:05:50 Social media pressure and identity01:11:50 What's next for Techno? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night--Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingMixtress is a London-based DJ and producer from Amsterdam known for her versatile sets that blend genres like UK hardcore, jungle, bassweight, techno, and dubstep. Raised with a strong musical foundation, she has performed at major venues like Printworks and Fabric, appeared on platforms such as Boiler Room, and holds resident DJ spots at Rinse FM and The Cause London.We discuss her dance music roots in Amsterdam and London, the changing nature of DJs and their careers, notable DJ beefs, and the influence of Colin Faver.This is the fourth and final of our recordings at ADE, thanks for listening! Back on regular episodes next week.--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 brought to you by Acid Nation02:36 Episode start03:02 Amsterdam origins 04:36 Majestic Casual era06:04 Lapalux shaping her taste09:00 University, Joy Orbison and dBridge12:10 Major events shaping music14:30 Cancel culture17:14 Are there too many DJs?19:00 Hustle mindset infiltrating club culture23:07 Edit culture and TikTok trends24:15 Defining her style26:35 Realising she's a 'proper DJ'29:03 COVID era and radio shows30:43 Scene rebuilding32:49 Post-COVID behaviours37:20 Can the scene autocorrect itself?40:03 Warm-up sets and etiquette41:30 The big rant43:35 Favourite parties to play Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night--Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingSofia Ilyas is currently Beatport's Chief Community Officer, formerly a key figure at the Erased Tapes label, and an important force in the emergence of ambient/neoclassical superstar Nils Frahm.We discuss her upbringing and subsequent escape from a highly conservative family in Wales, discovering electronic music in her late 20s, and eventual career in the industry.This is a fascinating and unexpected conversation - get involved!This is the third of our four recordings at ADE, the final one will be along shortly!--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:40 Intro03:35 The Role of Chief Community Officer05:40 Loneliness, creativity & connection07:55 Changing Beatport’s culture09:40 Building a role from scratch11:10 Beatport’s redemption14:23 Early life in Cardiff15:31 Escaping ultraconservatism19:45 Temple life21:36 Discovering club culture25:16 Meeting Nils Frahm27:36 The rise of Erased Tapes30:08 Creative experiments32:15 Leaving Erased Tapes35:00 Saying No and authenticity40:24 Joining Beatport41:30 Loneliness, grief & identity44:20 Coaching the next generation Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night--Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingDot Major is half of NIGHT manoeuvres (with ABSOLUTE), who are releasing via fabric's label. And he is also a member of London Grammar, one of the better bands to emerge from the UK in the last decade or so. We discuss his gradual journey into electronic music, what it's like breaking through in a big way, and some of the unusual things he's got up to along the way. This is the second of our four recordings at ADE, the next one will be along shortly! --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:40 Intro03:00 Missing moderator04:11 The birth of NIGHT manoeuvres05:16 Playing the Crane at ADE06:31 Musical roots09:30 HYPH MNGO and Dubstep12:00 The roots of London Grammar14:24 Blending live and electronic worlds17:00 DJing, skill, and the soul of performance20:06 Technology always wins24:06 Baptism of fire at Printworks28:03 Ibiza memories & the Lynx Africa hot tub31:00 NIGHT manoeuvres from studio to stage33:15 Gear talk36:00 AI talk and the future of music41:11 Favourite Dance albums Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event.This episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night--Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingThe first of four conversations recorded at ADE last week. Joris Voorn is a key figure in Dutch house and techno, and actually the genre as a whole. Releasing albums since 2004, he's been a fixture on the biggest stages for basically the entirety of the intervening period, and carved out a distinctive sound without ever pandering to the fashions of the day. He's also thoroughly nice chap who talks very well about the music and culture that surrounds it. Stay tuned for the other three conversations coming over the course of the next couple of weeks.--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:02:30 Intro04:18 ADE & Amsterdam06:15 Ibiza: Then vs. Now10:53 Genres14:35 Minimal was a shockwave16:27 Albums & consistency19:50 “I thought you needed a 303 to make Techno”23:57 Carl Cox the kingmaker26:08 “All the music I made, probably 1% got released”34:00 Creative change and backlash36:10 ‘Serotonin’ and personal loss38:09 The songwriting process44:00 “You can’t tell if it’s AI or Human anymore” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingPerc is one of modern techno's reference points: an internationally touring DJ and live act, founder of the scene-leading Perc Trax label and one of the most respected producers in techno today.We discuss his early period of hardware experimentation, the birth of Perc the artist project as well as the Perc Trax label, recent developments in techno, and the evolution of his sound. This is a crucial conversation with one of the absolute key figures in the history of UK techno. Get involved! --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation02:23 Perc04:27 Techno DJing today 06:26 A weekend of cancellations07:24 Tresor and Techno11:26 Berghain reflections18:39 Early life & musical roots21:13 From Metal bands to machines26:35 Studying Music Production36:07 The birth of Perc39:59 Working at Prime 48:01 Collapse of vinyl's golden age50:58 Life after Prime55:50 Learning the label game59:30 Nucleus records and gaming the charts01:05:30 Perctrax01:09:00 Social media, hype, and longevity01:13:25 Mentoring challenges01:16:40 Tiptoeing around Hard Techno01:24:43 The worst thing for Perctrax01:26:00 Best Techno parties now Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingA boycott is the end of a conversation, not the start. On Music Not Diving this week, we discuss whether Spotify is such an exceptional case of evil that it deserves be made an example of, or whether there might be another platform, for instance one owned by a Communist dictatorship, which might better fit the bill. And we give thanks to Cory Doctorow for his theoretical underpinning to the episode, which also features in the title! Chapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation04:00 Enshittification13:27 The Napster era18:40 Is Spotify a special case?25:00 AI music in streaming31:15 Tiktok is a music streamer37:55 The real problem is distribution41:45 Do labels still add value?Honestly this could easily have been twice as long and there are many issues which are omitted or insufficiently covered... but it took nearly a whole day to record and edit and that's about the limit of my pay grade! --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingDJ Bone is a legend of Detroit techno, and previous guest on the original version of this show, episode 73 of the Not A Diving Podcast.We discuss the latest goings on between Motor City and his adopted home of Amsterdam, his recent album The End Of Never... and whether DJs really need to learn how to beatmatch. A welcome return from one of our favourite guests in the history of the show! --If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation03:00 DJ Bone05:18 “Professor Bone time”07:01 Prince, Mojo & the birth of Detroit Techno loyalty012:26 “People forgot how to rave”15:30 Creeping commercialisation21:00 Music and distribution23:15 10,000 vinyl records30:20 Beatmatching is DJing 10135:49 The next gen and mentorship41:03 “They're too worried about a career before they hone their craft”47:00 Music is therapy and the album process57:00 Playing your own music out62:00 Detroit vs the world01:06:10 Aphex Twins and Moodymann01:11:00 Techno is political01:22:30 Homeless homies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingPaul Ćinske is the man behind every single booking at the most important club in the history of techno (maybe)... Tresor.We discuss the current state of the Berlin scene, the changes since the trauma of the pandemic, his role at the venue in detail, the importance of one person steering the creative ship of a club like Tresor... and much else besides.We haven't had anything quite like this on the show before, and Paul does not disappoint!--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:00:00 Intro02:00 Paul Ćinske04:22 That classic Berlin cliche08:22 Future Music and the Melbourne scene09:00 Berlin’s clubbing landscape11:48 First impressions of Berlin14:45 Berlin = Techno city17:25 Small venues and the ecosystem21:50 Has raving in a dark room become less attractive?25:00 Less stigma with older ravers31:10 Ticketing culture vs. Berlin’s door policy35:05 If FWD was down to ticket figures…38:30 Working as Tresor’s booker46:00 OM is the great humbler47:30 Tresor’s reopening & post-pandemic recovery54:02 Creative direction of Tresor01:04:00 Legacy, identity & the future01:09:30 Büro Siebzig Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!--Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDivingReturning guest Darren Hemmings is a music marketing expert and the founder of a creative marketing agency specialising in music called Motive Unknown.He's also the author of the excellent Network Notes Substack.How do you break through in 2025? How do you even get your music heard? These problems are as pertinent for acts signed to big labels as it is for people just starting out.Is streaming a problem? And what is the role of labels today? We address all these things and much more besides in a vital conversation for anyone with even a passing interest in music, the industry, and the development of culture in today’s big tech- dominated world.This is a great conversation with a returning guest who will definitely be on the show again!--If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlistChapters:02:41 Intro 04:34 Music marketing: constantly changing… or just copycatting?07:59 The Death of Monoculture12:30 Why do labels exist anymore? 14:35 Labels as a nexus point 18:05 Big Tech hates teenage girls20:07 Music is worth… nothing 22:07 Flood the market with crap 26:10 Sorry, but not everyone’s an artist 27:13 Raves without phones29:55 The “S” word 35:53 The importance of local scenes39:20 What does change look like 44:46 Déjà Vu: The next music industry collapse48:23 Oasis, K-Pop, and the price of nostalgia 55:00 Did Indie labels blow their shot? 56:05 Private equity, KKR and boycotting 01:04:21 The role of journalism and criticism 01:08:14 Is Gen Z missing out? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Karmichael

"Not very masculine". Someone has never heard of the Bee Gees, Prince, George Michael, Freddie Mercury, Marvin Gaye, Ian Gillian (or many, many other male rock vocalists). And if the only critiques about not liking a song are "it's shit" and "it's pretty bad", well... good thing I skipped the entire thing.

Jun 20th
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Guy Schneider

Amazing content, thanks for sharing and being so transparent and honest about your journey, this is good, should be required listening in music schools...

Oct 15th
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Guy Schneider

Great show, really enjoyed the conversation, sharing insider's experience of the music business is priceless, especially when done in such a casual and fun yet precise and informative way! Thanks, highly recommended!

Oct 15th
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