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Unexplained America is a weekly podcast, hosted by Lisa Ponson. I discuss true crime, paranormal, cryptid, legend, and anything unexplained connected with America. Join me for episodes rich in researching the history, background and nuance of the story perhaps a bit quirky. If possible, I love to explore the places myself and discuss the story from a personal perspective. The more creepy and unexplained the better!!!
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In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa discusses the most famous, the GOAT cryptid in America--Bigfoot.This episode we begin by discussing the early stories of large, hairy creatures, running around on two-legs with a terrible odor and the how the indigenous tribes spoke about these creatures like any other creature here in the America's. Then in 1812, reports come out when David Thompson (explorer, surveyor, fur trader) publishes his journals that outline his recording of large footprints found in the snow around what would now be Alberta, Canada--these tracks were said to be 14 inches long and 8 inches wide.We will discuss further reports in 1800's of the "Arkansas Wildmen"--which is reported in newspapes out of Memphis, Tennessee.By 1870, there is an intial report of a "Wildman" sighting that looked like gorilla's in the Diablo Mountains near San Francisco, California.We go on and discuss the events in July 1924 in Washington State, then then the prints found in California by Jerry Crew which made the reference to these "wild men" as "Bigfoot" and solidified the name in the public mind.Of course, we must dive into the very famous and compelling evidence of the Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin film in 1967, which reflected a large hairy, bipedal, female Bigfoot who would be named "Patty" in honor of Patterson.We continue on to the famous Fouke Monster in Fouke, Arkansas, the happenings of Bobby and Elizabeth Ford in May of 1971 and the encounter of the Woods/Sedgass that happened after the Ford's encounter that made National headlines and a forthcoming movie in 1972 called "The Legend of Boggy Creek"--1 of the highest grossing independent movies ever made.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/10-convincing-bigfoot-sightings/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q60mSMmhTZUhttps://www.woodape.org/Souther Shield (Helena, Arkansas) Sat. May 1, 1852-article--"The Wild Man Again"--originally of the Memphis ExpressWeekly Arkansas Gazette--Little Rock, Ar Friday May 30, 1851--"A Wild Man of the Woods"http://www.foukemonster.net/sightings.htmhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068837/--Charles Pierce--The Legend of Boggy Creekhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt13951868/episodes/?season=2--"The Proof is Out There" Season 2 Episode 13--2021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Y-xyZ_ISE--"I know what i saw"--CBS 47--Interview of Bob GimlinEpisodes DID include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa has special guest host Amber on the show for this very creepy special Halloween episode on Bloody Mary the Legend and not the drink.In this episode, we go back to the early 1700-1800's to discuss the different origin stories of Bloody Mary. One particular story discusses how Mary is an old witch woman living in the woods. The townspeople do not like her or trust her. She sells tonics and is known to curse people and animals. At some point, town girls go missing and the towns people suspect Mary. They venture into her woods to confront and different stories or variants say different outcomes happen but mainly that Mary is killed and then curses the people and the town if they dare utter her name three times.Another story is about a Miller's daughter who is enchated by Mary the witch. Ultimately the daughter is saved by the towns folk but the towns folk kill Mary and she again curses them.A different story is about a girl named Mary who falls ill and dies. Her family is grief stricken and refuse to bury her for a week but once they bury her they do bury her with the string to the bell just in case she is still alive. Unfortunately, for the family she does wake up and rings the bell but they do not hear her and the bell breaks and she dies in the ground but not until she is completely bloody by scrathing her nails and beating on the coffin lid. They notice the broken bell and dig her up and find her bloody body. the legend goes they confirm she's dead by sticking a mirror to her nose and when they do they trap her spirit in the mirror forevermore. And future victims that call her name in the mirror will awaken her spirit to come after them.I will also, discuss the ultimate Bloody Mary, Mary I of England or Mary Tudor, first official Queen of England, daughter of King Henry VIII, was monikered Bloody Mary because she had 284-300 Protestants burned at the stake during her 5 year reign.To solidify this episode we conduct our own experiment and record, don't miss out on anything.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://www.hauntedrooms.co.uk/the-bloody-mary-legendhttps://www.pcsb.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=5837&ModuleInstanceID=27652&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=28107&PageID=14981https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Bloody_Mary_(folklore)https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/myth-bloody-mary-englands-first-queen-180974221/https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/sports-and-leisure/bloody-mary-folkloreEpisodes DID include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will share spooky stories submitted by listeners.Stories included discuss; a creepy experience in an abandoned church, a wild horse experience on the side of a dark highway, a ghostly apparition appearing to a relative after a horrible death of a family member, a tale that caused the listener to go ashen one night driving home late and a ghost boy crosses his path, a tale of a ghost making noises and wearing overalls in a new arena, a horrible face peering at a driver on a two lane highway, a strange green light appearing nightly, a shared dream that freaked out the dreamer and his wife, a toddler with a strange recall of a place she had never been, a light house experience for the dead, and my own spooky experiences in two of the houses I've lived in.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:Wonderful listeners real life experiences shared to me verbally or by text, message or email.Thank you Ben, Jeff, Chris, Bobbi, Sheila, Anonymous, and Cody Johnston of Cryptids Across the Atlas (see his info below and make sure to check out his show).https://thecryptidatlas.com/Episodes DID include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa discusses the Haunted History of The Queen Mary.In 1929, the Cunard Ship line envisioned a mega ship. The wanted to be in competition with France, and Germany: they wanted the largest and fastest ocean liner. So they began planning for this ship that would be christened the Queen Mary.The RMS Queen Mary set sail on her maiden voyal in May of 1936. She was the largest, most luxurious ship on the Transatlantic shipping route between England and America.Famous Hollywood Stars, politicians and royalty would sail on the Queen Mary. In 1939, The Queen Mary was doing her normal shipping route and landed in New York's Harbour in September and with the turmoil of the war England had to park her in New York. In March of 1940, she went to Australia and she was fashioned for war. She was painted grey and she due to her size and speed she would be extremely vital for England and it's allies in World War II. During the war, in 1942, tragedy does strike the Queen Mary--she plows right through one of her escort ships--the HMS Curacoa--leading to the death of 338 men. After WWII, the Queen Mary is re-fashioned in the luxury liner she was made to be and she again runs the oceans with the famous. John F. Kennedy, Judy Garland, Clark Gable, all the Royals and so many more travel on the Queen Mary.By 1965, the jet age is fully engaged and now the Cunard line has to face selling or scraping the beautiful ship. Many make offers but the City of Long Beach, California win the bid for the Queen Mary.Between the years of 1970-and now the Queen Mary is a fixture in Long Beach and she is also known for her haunted history and the many deaths that took place on board.In this episode, I will go through the history but also the deaths and the haunted stories of the Queen Mary.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"Mighty Ship at War: Queen Mary" Documentary 2016-Matthew Pinder--https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Mighty-Ship-at-War-Queen-Mary/0JXNF4XVPUZ1UM09B7AWZT4605https://www.queenmary.com/paranormal-attractions.htmhttps://usghostadventures.com/haunted-stories/hauntings-of-the-rms-queen-mary/"Overnight at the Haunted Queen Mary" Faze Rug--October 9, 2024--https://youtu.be/YrNPUIo8kCE?si=WTWnJKwVak2yydMF"Historic Queen Mary: Full Tour 2024" Alex The Historian--https://youtu.be/vD2MR5Lr5I0?si=2fzFFL8LWI7sATwk"Brickbats & Bouquets on L.B.'s Queen Mary Coup" https://www.newspapers.com/image/705776321/?match=1&terms=queen%20maryEpisodes DID include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa discusses the famous and beautiful Stanley Hotel located in Estes Park, Colorado.The Stanley Hotel is built by famous manufacturer Freelan O. Stanley in 1907--the hotel opens it's doors in 1909 to great success. This episode will outline the early history of Estes Park and then the background of Freelan Stanley and how he came to be the owner/designer of The Stanley Hotel.We will further discuss the happenings, the hauntings that lead up to 1974, when Stephen King visits the Stanley and writes his book "The Shining" (released in 1977).I will also add in my own personal experience staying at the Stanley Hotel and what a wonderful town Estes Park is along with outlining all the many ghost stories that correspond with the hotel legend.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://www.visitestespark.com/blog/post/a-stanley-hotel-history-part-two/https://www.visitestespark.com/blog/post/a-stanley-hotel-history-part-three/https://www.eptrail.com/2024/08/20/a-stanley-hotel-history-part-five-arriving-at-today-planning-for-tomorrow/https://jila.colorado.edu/icols2023/newshttps://usghostadventures.com/americas-most-haunted-hotels-and-inns/hauntings-of-the-stanley-hotel/https://usghostadventures.com/americas-most-haunted-hotels-and-inns/hauntings-of-the-stanley-hotel/#:~:text=Since%20the%20late%201950s%2C%20guests,invisible%20force%20push%20them%20apart.https://www.stanleyhotel.com/?utm_source=local-directories&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=travelclick-localconnect"Ghosthunters: Stanley Hotel: Live Halloween show" 2006--S2E22 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0822494/"Ghost hunt at the Stanley Hotel provides fun, frights" Fort Collins Thursday Nov. 1 2012 "Famed Stanley Hotel to be Open Year-Round" Greeley Daily Tribune-Tues. Aug 1, 1972 by Paul Moloney"Stanley Hotel Will Not Close: Explosion Of Sunday Night Less Serious Than Reported. Damage $10,000"--The Fort Collims Express & The Fort Collims review--Thurs. Jun 29, 1911--Episodes could include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa discusses the missing persons case of Martha and Flora Helmick and John "Ed" Keyton. Martha, Flora and Ed left out around noon on Friday August 3, 1973, They lived in Bridgewater, Virginia, and were driving to Kentucky to pick up Ed's brother for a family reunion. The three would never make it. They are reported missing and days turn into weeks, weeks into months, and months into years and zero sign of the 1967 Ford Fairlane Ed drove that day or any sign of the trio. They are presumed dead but no one knows what really happened to them.In 2016, the Lexington, Kentucky Fire Department is diving the Kentucky River in a routine training and they find a couple of vehicles. One vehicle will have what appears to be human bones.A massive, collaborative investigation will ensure and lead to the connection that will bring closure to the families of Martha, Flora and Ed. Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://bridgewater.blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Lexington-Press-Release-12-22-2021.pdfDaily Press (Newport New, Virginia) Article January 23, 1974; Trio of "Characters"Drives Off, Thought Dead-Ben Gamberhttps://www.lex18.com/news/covering-kentucky/45-year-missing-persons-case-solved-by-lexington-fire-chief-family-gets-closurehttps://www.kentucky.com/news/local/education/article256767967.htmlhttps://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Martha_Helmickhttps://www.kentucky.com/news/local/education/article256767967.htmlhttps://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP40138Episodes could include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa has special guest host Amber delight us with the lore of the Yazoo City Witch of Yazoo City, Mississippi.Amber begins with a little background of Yazoo City, Mississippi; then lets us know the story of the town--that in 1884, there was an alleged woman that was found to have killed some men and the men were found in her shack down in the swamps of the Yazoo River. Then allegedly the women was buried in the town cemetery and her grave had iron chains around it.Amber outlines the folklore, and then the real fire of 1904 which engulfed the whole town--this fire that was allegedly prophesied by this story of the woman with the iron chained grave.Now this grave of the woman or the alleged "Witch" exists today in Yazoo City, and in fact, is a tourist attraction.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:Biloxi Daily Herald. (1904, May 26). The most disastrous fire in the history of Mississippi occurred today at Yazoo City… Newspaper Archive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazoo_City%2C_MississippiCity of Yazoo City. (n.d.). The history of Yazoo City. City of Yazoo City. https://cityofyazoocity.org/visit-yazoo-city/the-history-of-yazoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.comCharlie Wingard. (n.d.). First Presbyterian Church and the 1904 Yazoo City fire. https://charliewingard.com/first-presbyterian-church-and-the-1904-yazoo-city-fire/?utm_source=chatgpt.comEp 27 – The Witch, the Grave, the Fire, and the Chain. (2021, September 21). Haunted Hospitality. https://hauntedhospitality.wordpress.com/2021/09/21/ep-27-the-witch-the-grave-the-fire-and-the-chain-the-witch-of-yazoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.comFishermen, Fear, and Fire: The Legend of the Witch of Yazoo City. (2023, July 21). Medium. https://medium.com/%40reeseohr/fishermen-fear-and-fire-the-legend-of-the-witch-of-yazoo-city-ed2d15c133fd?utm_source=chatgpt.comMay 25, 1904: The Revenge of the Witch of Yazoo. (2020, May 25). Random Times. https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/experiences/mississippi/witch-of-yazoo-legend-ms?utm_source=chatgpt.comSouthern Mysteries Podcast. (2024, September 9). Episode 151: The mystery of the Witch of Yazoo City. Southern Mysteries. https://southernmysteries.com/2024/09/09/witchofyazoocity/?utm_source=chatgpt.comThe Witch of Yazoo. (2022, August 11). Mississippi Folklore. https://msfolklore.wordpress.com/2022/08/11/the-witch-of-yazoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.comThe Witch of Yazoo. (n.d.). Paranormal Mississippi Case Files. https://libguides.hindscc.edu/paranormalms/witch_of_yazoo?utm_source=chatgpt.comThe Witch of Yazoo City Is a Mississippi Legend. (2022, December 16). Only In Your State. https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/experiences/mississippi/witch-of-yazoo-legend-ms?utm_source=chatgpt.comThe Witch of Yazoo City’s Curse and Legend in Mississippi. (n.d.). Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/MississippiMemories/posts/the-witch-of-yazoo-is-said-to-have-put-a-curse-on-the-town-of-yazoo-city-as-she-/1130111779155316/?utm_source=chatgpt.comThe Witch of Yazoo. (n.d.). Visit Yazoo County, Mississippi. https://visityazoo.org/witch-of-yazoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.comYazoo City, Mississippi. (n.d.). Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazoo_City%2C_Mississippi?utm_source=chatgpt.comEpisodes could include other information via:https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss cases and origin of Spontaneous Human Combustion.We will begin way back in the 1400's discussing an origin and then in the 1700's a case that would bring a poet to coin the actual term Spontaneous Human Combustion. Then we will get into 3 cases, Mathilda Rooney of 1885 in Illinois, Mary Hardy Reeser case in 1951 Florida, and then a case in Ireland in 2010 of Michael Faherty.Decide for youself what you think about SHC!!Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://www.livescience.com/16215-spontaneous-human-combustion-real.htmlhttps://www.nbcnews.com/health/body-odd/irishman-died-spontaneous-human-combustion-coroner-claims-flna1c6437165https://irishmysteries.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-case-of-michael-faherty.htmlhttps://vocal.media/criminal/the-bewildering-christmas-human-combustion-of-matilda-rooneyhttps://www.britannica.com/story/is-spontaneous-human-combustion-realhttps://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2019/10/17/spontaneous-combustion-in-st-petersburg-the-curious-case-of-mary-reeser/Irish Independent News: Friday September 23, 2011; Brian McDonald-"Man died from spontaneous combustion, inquest finds"https://www.historicmysteries.com/unexplained-mysteries/the-death-of-mary-reeser/802/https://thedeadhistory.com/2020/08/13/mary-reeser/**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the murder of Dr. Andrew Bagby-this is part 2 of a 2 part episode.Listener Discretion: Discussion of Murder, Suicide Attempts, and Small touch of Alleged Child Abuse.On November 5, 2001, Dr. Andrew Bagby tells his supervisor that his on again/off again girlfriend whom he had ended things with just a couple of days ago had shown up at his doorstep that morning. She had driven 15 hours overnight to see him and discuss with him how upset she was that the relationship was over. Dr. Bagby would leave work at 5 p.m. on November 5, 2001, and would never be seen alive again.In the episode, we will pick up at November 12, 2001; Dr. Shirley Turner has fled to Canada. In the next month, she will get arrested for the murder of Dr. Andrew Bagby and to the horror of Andrew's parents she'll be let go on bail. By February 2002, she will announce being pregnant with Andrew's baby whom will be born in July 2002. Dr. Shirley Turner will face extradition and family court issues with David and Kathleen Bagby --ultimately, a judge will rule in favor of extraditing Dr. Turner; however, Dr. Turner in August 2003 will take her own life and the life of Zachary--once again making David and Kathleen suffer.Listen to hear full details- and this story of how Dr. Andrew Bagby's parents advocated not just for him, but for Zachary and other children in Canada.References for this Episode:"Turner Review & Investigation" September 2006--By-Peter Markesteyn M.D. F.C.A.P.-https://www.childandyouthadvocate.nl.ca/files/turner-v1.pdfhttps://www.dearzachary.com/press/Telegraph-Destroyed.pdfNational Post Newspaper--Sat. Nov. 2003 by- Francine Dube-https://www.newspapers.com/image/514343069/San Jose Mercury--Sun March 2007--by Mike Cassidy--https://www.dearzachary.com/press/Cassidy-SanJoseMercuryNews.pdf"Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son about his Father" Docufilm 2008--Kurt Kuenne--https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152758/**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the murder of Dr. Andrew Bagby-this is part 1 of a 2 part episode.Listener Discretion: Discussion of Murder, Suicide Attempts, and Small touch of Alleged Child Abuse.On November 5, 2001, Dr. Andrew Bagby tells his supervisor that his on again/off again girlfriend whom he had ended things with just a couple of days ago had shown up at his doorstep that morning. She had driven 15 hours overnight to see him and discuss with him how upset she was that the relationship was over. Dr. Bagby would leave work at 5 p.m. on November 5, 2001, and would never be seen alive again.In the episode, I will outline in depth the back ground of this alleged killer, Dr. Shirley Turner. We will explore her life and career; Dr. Bagby's life and career and then the days leading into 11/05/01 and then then afterwards.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"Turner Review & Investigation" September 2006--By-Peter Markesteyn M.D. F.C.A.P.-https://www.childandyouthadvocate.nl.ca/files/turner-v1.pdfhttps://www.dearzachary.com/press/Telegraph-Destroyed.pdfNational Post Newspaper--Sat. Nov. 2003 by- Francine Dube-https://www.newspapers.com/image/514343069/San Jose Mercury--Sun March 2007--by Mike Cassidy--https://www.dearzachary.com/press/Cassidy-SanJoseMercuryNews.pdf"Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son about his Father" Docufilm 2008--Kurt Kuenne--https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152758/**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Faith Hedgepeth Case--requested by listener Parker. ****Warning--listener discretion--the episode contains murder, SA, and rape.On September 7, 2012, Faith Hedgepeth is found brutally killed in her friends apartment in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.Faith was a 19 year old student at the University of North Caroline at Chapel Hill. She had begun her college career there in the Fall of 2010; she was currently a biology major in her Sophomore /Junior year working towards her goal of being a pediatrician one day.Police would work Faith's case tirelessly and on September 16, 2021; they would announce the arrest of a suspect that matches DNA left at the crime scene.We will discuss Faith's background, the case, and all of the happenings up to today's time.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"Who Killed the Co-ed: An ID Murder Mystery"--2020-S1E1 --https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12413302/https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/durham-county-news/suspect-in-unc-student-murder-trial-charged-with-possessing-drugs-in-jail-warrant-shows/https://www.newsobserver.com/article311632804.htmlhttps://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/court-documents-reveal-how-suspect-was-linked-faith-hedgepeths-2012-murder/K6JRLS7AQBFKPPSX7V76C5TPLM/https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1283962-hedgepeth-case-files/https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article257547083.htmlhttps://www.wral.com/news/local/man-charged-killing-unc-sophomore-faith-hedgepeth-court-new-drug-charges-july-2025/"What We Know, Who is Suspect"--The News and Observer--Saturday, September 18, 2021--by Avi Bajpai and Brooke Cainhttps://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article295602169.htmlhttps://www.warrenrecord.com/news/article_fcb75f4a-1ba2-11ec-8222-9bbb763cbe44.htmlhttps://www.wral.com/story/timeline-nearly-a-decade-later-closure-surfaces-in-faith-hedgepeth-murder/19880150/https://www.newsobserver.com/article311632804.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Faith_Hedgepeth**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the life, achievements, and then the mysterious disappearance of Amelia Earhart.On July 2, 1937, world renowned lady aviator Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan were in communications with the US Coast Guard ship the Itasca. The Itasca was anchored right close to Howland Island in the Pacific Ocean awaiting the arrival of Amelia and Fred who were on their last legs of their famous flight around the world. Amelia was the first women to fly across the Atlantic but she wished to be the first woman to fly around the world and not just around but at the earths longest distance--along the equator.In the episode, I will discuss Amelia's birth in Atchison, Kansas, and then her schooling, her career and what led to her being one of the most famous women of all times.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/AEdescr2.htmlhttps://catalog.archives.gov/id/305240?objectPage=8https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2023/11/10/what-happened-to-amelia-earhart/71314660007/https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/amelia-earharts-lockheed-electra-10e-special-nr16020/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earharthttps://www.businessinsider.com/deep-sea-vision-vs-nauticos-amelia-earhart-wreckage-2024-2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Noonanhttps://www.opb.org/article/2024/11/25/rock-formation-not-amelia-earhart-s-plane-shown-in-sonar-image/#:~:text=South%20Carolina%2Dbased%20company%20Deep,1937%20during%20their%20quest%20toTampa Bay Times Newspaper July 4, 1937https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10719984/--Expedition Amelia--TV Movie-National Geographic 2019https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33091778/--Finding Amelia--TV Docufilm 2024**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Amityville case but this episode is specifically starting at the time George and Kathy Lutz move their family into 112 Ocean Ave, Amityville, New York.On December 18, 1975, the Lutz family move into their new home. Right away the Lutz experience phenomenon that they cannot explain. They only live in the home for 28 days but their experience in the home will be made infamous in 1977, with the writing of a best selling novel labeled as non-fiction. Following the book, The Amityville Horror, then comes a feature film by the same name released in 1979, starring James Brolin and Margot Kidder.George and Kathy Lutz, although, they only lived in the home for 28 days, that 28 days will shape their lives and the lives of their children for the rest of their collective lives.I will discuss the happenings in the 28 days, the Lutz background, the famous book and film, and then the happenings afterwards to the current day. I will also discuss Ed and Lorraine Warrens involvement as well.And this is my 100th episode--I am so happy and proud and appreciative to all the listeners who have made this possible through their encouragement.Warning--listener discretion--the episode contains the description of children being killed and their injuries.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"The Amityville Horror" by Jay Anson-Link-https://www.amazon.com/Amityville-Horror-Jay-Anson/dp/1416507698"The Amityville Horror" Film Link--https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078767/https://youtu.be/GoG5JvTr0gY?si=ZXk9UfVi4Lheg3Lyhttps://youtu.be/QsX9HMzWg_E?si=ZwUSQM_96F2ZNKWBhttps://amityvillemurders.com/https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/the-true-story-of-the-amityville-horrorhttps://amityvillemurders.com/the-aftermath/archive.html#https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/family/amityville/4.htmlhttps://www.thehorrorzine.com/Morbid/AmityvilleHorror.html**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Amityville case but this episode is specifically covering the Defeo Family Murders.On November 13, 1974, Ronald Defeo Jr. (Ronnie) ran into a local bar close to his home in Amityville, New York, and screamed "someone has shot my mom and dad". Police would find 6 members of the Defeo Family shot and dead in the beds wearing pajamas on the night of the 13th of November. The only surviving Defeo being Ronnie, who would go on to imply the Mafia was responsible...at least, initially.After further questioning, Ronnie would alter his story numerous times until he would admit to killing his own family his self. We will discuss the back story of the Defeo family, the night of the 13th of November, the investigation, the trial and the aftermath; again specific to the Defeo Family. In episode 100, I will have an episode that will begin in Amityville in December 1975.Warning--listener discretion--the episode contains the description of children being killed and their injuries.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"Horrific Homicides: A Judge Looks Back at the Amityville Horror Murders & Other Infamous Long Island Crimes"-Author Judge Thomas M. Starkhttps://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/horrific-homicides-thomas-m-stark/1140455840https://www.longislandhistoryproject.org/judging-the-amityville-horror/https://amityvillemurders.com/https://amityvillemurders.com/the-aftermath/archive.html#https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/family/amityville/4.htmlhttps://www.thehorrorzine.com/Morbid/AmityvilleHorror.htmlhttps://amityville-horror.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_DeFeo_Sr._(Real_Life)"Ronald Defeo Indicted as Family is Buried"-Daily News Tuesday November 19, 1974-by Stewart Artain**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Night Stalker, serial killer Richard Ramirez.This is Part 3--the final episode to Richard Ramirez-- in this episode I will be picking up on August 31, 1985, when Richard was arrested. I will be discussing in depth his court case, all through the 4 years of it. We will then work through the after math of his court case into his jail accommodations, his wedding in 1996, his final appeal information and more heinous crime tied to him in 2006 and 2009 to his death in 2013.I will end the episode mentioning all the known victims, possible victims and some victims that were just not part of his trial for various legal reasons.Warning--this episode will be brutal and detail his heinous assaults, and killings. SA is involved so listener discretion advised.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"The Night Stalker The Life and Crimes of Richard Ramirez" written by Philip Carlo--1996 Pinnacle Books--Kensington Publishing Corp--https://www.amazon.com/Night-Stalker-Crimes-Richard-Ramirez/dp/0786013621https://www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-Ramirezhttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1098993.htmlhttps://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/richard-ramirez-night-stalker-murders/29/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-03-04-me-15057-story.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Night Stalker, serial killer Richard Ramirez.This is Part 2 (Part 1 was a deep dive into Richard's whole family history, his childhood and into his first 2 murders): in this episode I'll start with the rest of the events on March 17, 1985 and go through every known victim until Richard is arrested on August 31. 1985.Warning--this episode will be brutal and detail his heinous assaults, and killings. SA is involved so listener discretion advised.Part 3 will come out by Monday July 14, 2025-this Part 3 will deep dive into Richard's trial and aftermath until his death in 2013.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"The Night Stalker The Life and Crimes of Richard Ramirez" written by Philip Carlo--1996 Pinnacle Books--Kensington Publishing Corp--https://www.amazon.com/Night-Stalker-Crimes-Richard-Ramirez/dp/0786013621https://www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-Ramirezhttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1098993.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-03-04-me-15057-story.html**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Night Stalker, serial killer Richard Ramirez.June 28, 1984, Richard Ramirez whom had been burglarizing LA County for years, went on the hunt for more than just a burglary. He found the apartment of Jennie Vincow, a 79 year old retired woman from New York, and brutally murdered her in her own bed.Eight months later he would follow up with a double homicide in 1 night. This episode takes a deep dive into Richard's past-beginning with his father's tough and humble upbringing- all the way to the night of March 17, 1985. This is Part 1 of a 2 Part series.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:"The Night Stalker The Life and Crimes of Richard Ramirez" written by Philip Carlo--1996 Pinnacle Books--Kensington Publishing Corp--https://www.amazon.com/Night-Stalker-Crimes-Richard-Ramirez/dp/0786013621https://www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-Ramirezhttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1098993.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-03-04-me-15057-story.html**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the famous cryptid the Jersey Devil; the demon devil of New Jersey.The origin story of the Jersey Devil goes way back to the Province of New Jersey in 1735, one story begins with a "Mother Leeds" who is pregnant with her thirteenth child and in her frustration and exhaustion prays to God to make this baby a devil...her prayer comes true allegedly and the devil child is said to haunt the area forever....We will further discuss in the episode all the other stories related to the Jersey Devil or the Leeds Devil. What the devil looks like and what happened to solidify the Jersey Devil in New Jersey in 1909.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:Trenton Sunday Advertiser: Sunday January 24, 1909-Doctor Condemns Devil Stories Press Agent's Hoax-https://www.newspapers.com/image/1192982748/?match=1&terms=jersey%20devilNews of Cumberland County-Friday, January 22, 1909--Jersey Devil Struck Bridgeton--https://www.newspapers.com/image/1083634578/?match=1&terms=jersey%20devil"MonsterQuest"-2009 S3E4 Devils in New Jersey-https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386254/https://www.atlanticcountynj.gov/government/government-information/history-of-atlantic-county/jersey-devil-fact-or-fiction#:~:text=The%20story%20of%20the%20Jersey,have%20seen%20or%20heard%20him.Press of Atlantic City: Sunday, August 26, 1979 Article by Edward Hitzel--Jersey Devil Unloved in Leeds--https://www.newspapers.com/image/921288154/?terms=jersey%20devilhttps://owlcation.com/social-sciences/Daniel-Leeds-The-Real-Jersey-DevilYoutube--Travel Channel-A Sinister Presence: The Jersey Devil's Chilling Legacy --In the Search of Monsters--April 19, 2025--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l58ut7hcy4I**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss The Phoenix Lights-a UFO sighting phenomenon event in Phoenix, Arizona.On March 13, 1997, tens of thousands of people between California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Mexico witnessed a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) that covered 400 + miles, multiple hours and could never be explained over the past 28 years.In this episode, we will cover the events of that night, events leading into that evening, the aftermath of the event and then all the many explanations put forward over the years.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/arts/phoenix-lights-ufo-mystery-explanations-19105870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKDy1QfBlxs -Youtube Video The Phoenix Lights 28 Years later, the mystery endures..ABC15 Arizona March 13, 2025https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/phoenix-ufo-mystery-solved-lights-high-school-football/story?id=14884994The Arizona Republic Article-July 17, 1997--by Chris Fiscushttps://lasvegassun.com/news/1997/jul/25/military-now-says-flares-may-be-cause-of-mysteriou/#:~:text=%7CLog%20out-,Military%20now%20says%20flares%20may%20be%20cause%20of%20mysterious%20Arizona,calls%22%20asking%20about%20the%20lights.https://youtu.be/nbofgMtYcqU?si=io3umSdNHuVWNmInhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
In this episode of Unexplained America, your host Lisa will discuss the Cleveland Torso Murders--also known as, the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run and also was called the Kingsbury Slayer and other things in the press.The killings begin in Cleveland, Ohio in 1935 (1934 depending in victim inclusion of the "Lady in the Lake")--a body is found without a head in a dark, dank area of Cleveland called Kingsbury Run.Over the course, of a few months more mutilated and dismembered bodies are found. No witnesses, no suspects, just body parts.Between 1935 and 1938, 12 victims will be found and only 3 of these victims will be identified.Cleveland's new City Safety Director, Eliot Ness, will get involved but to no avail...no one will be tried for these heinous murders.Listen to hear full details.References for this Episode:https://www.clevelandpolicemuseum.org/collections/torso-murders/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Torso_Murdererhttps://case.edu/ech/articles/t/torso-murdershttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/torso-killer-cleveland-dna-testing-victims-identified/https://fox8.com/news/cleveland-torso-murders-to-be-revisited-in-new-movie-being-filmed-in-city-this-summer/The Cleveland Press Newspaper: Saturday July 8, 1939**Numerous other articles from Newspapers.com--https://www.newspapers.com/https://www.ancestry.com/Big Thanks go out to Gage Fears for his original music made for Unexplained Arkansas the Podcast usage--His contact below--find him on Instagram!!https://www.instagram.com/i_deliver_pizza/To connect w/ Unexplained America:https://unexplainedamerica.com/unexplainedarkansas@gmail.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/unexplainedarkansas/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rIqbuh-TeAl_9dZNL3fUAhttps://www.instagram.com/unexplained_america/https://www.patreon.com/unexplainedamericaFind us on Tik Tok and Instagram and all Podcasts Platforms.Xoxoxoxo, Lisa
























They should change the name to criminals of Arkansas because they don't talk about unexplained anything anymore.👎
the town that dreaded sundown
the digestive hotel burned
Dawn Wells ? Nope . . .
I'm glad they are doing the show but I was really hoping for more ghosts and less unsolved murder cases. Murders are so boring!
Too much chuckling around about nonsense stuff that has nothing to do with the topic. One chick click laughs at everything she says herself. It's 11 minutes in until the topic is mentioned.