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FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026!Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Code IRON at www.goodranchers.com and mention us in the post purchase survey!Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors!Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!He started running at 27. He is not a professional athlete by his own description. He has run UTMB, Tor des Géants, the Swiss Alps 100, and Moab 240 — where he podiumed and then made a feature documentary about it, because finishing apparently wasn't enough. He spent the week before this recording running reconnaissance on the course. He has now covered about 150 miles of it on foot before the race even starts.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, Kevin and Peter sit down with Jeff Pelletier — trail runner, filmmaker, and one of three Jeffs in this series — for a conversation about what it actually means to show up to one of the most competitive 250-mile races in the world as someone who approaches the whole thing cerebrally, documents everything with his partner Audrey, and genuinely believes that anyone with a healthy body could do what he does if they had the time and the mindset.Jeff talks about why Cocodona appealed to him, what he learned at Mammoth 200 six months ago that he's bringing directly into this race, and why he's writing himself a pledge to sign before the start line — because that middle section will try to make you complacent, and he's not letting it.Cocodona 250 kicks off Monday, May 4th at 5 AM Pacific. Follow the action live on the Mountain Outpost YouTube channel. Whatever happens out there will almost certainly end up on YouTube anyway.

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FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026!Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors!Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!For five years, Tom Murray has been the friendly face on the other side of the table at Cocodona 250. He's handed you your bib at check-in. He's been at aid stations at 2am when you needed someone most. He's watched runners come through Mingus destroyed and leave Sedona elated. He's seen this race do everything it can do to a person.This year, he's not volunteering. He's running.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, Kevin and Peter sit down with Tom — a Tucson local, Aravaipa community cornerstone, and soon-to-be 50-year-old — for one of the most genuinely moving conversations in the series. Tom talks about what it means to finally come out from behind the table, what he's absorbed from five years of watching 250 miles of suffering up close, and why turning 50 made this the year he couldn't keep the idea at bay any longer.He also talks about what he's learned from observing runners that most runners never get to see — how transient any single moment in this race really is, why you never make a decision alone on the trail, and what it was like to watch someone completely fall apart at Mingus and then see that same person glowing in Sedona hours later.He has never finished a hundred-miler. He is showing up anyway.His five-word description of Cocodona 250 might be the best one we've heard all series.Oh, and his eighth-grade basketball coach told him he should never shoot the ball. The MBA at Mingus Mountain cannot wait.Cocodona 250 kicks off Monday, May 4th at 5 AM Pacific. Follow the action live on the Mountain Outpost YouTube channel.

FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026!Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors!Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!She won it. Then she came back and won it again — faster than anyone ever has. Now Rachel Entrekin is back for round three at the Cocodona 250, and if you think two titles and a course record means she's showing up comfortable, you haven't been paying attention.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, Kevin and Peter sit down with the two-time Cocodona 250 champion to talk about what it actually takes to go from winning to dominating — a 10-hour PR, a course record, and a finish line experience that was nothing like the grumpy one before it. Rachel gets into the specifics of how she's thinking about year three: chasing a sub-60 hour finish, fixing the miles she gives away on the back half of the course, navigating a deeper women's field than she's ever faced, and the grilled cheese at mile 250 that she credits with saving her mental state last year.She also talks crew philosophy, the unlock that nutrition became for her 2025 performance, what it means to finally race with a watch, and why she thinks she can still find time — even after already running the fastest women's finish in the history of this race.Oh, and she's already committed to the Mingus Basketball Association at mile 110. She's projecting five points. She's been warned not to practice during taper.Cocodona 250 kicks off Monday, May 4th at 5 AM Pacific. Follow the action live on the Mountain Outpost YouTube channel.

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FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026!Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors!Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Most runners think the Cocodona 250 is just a race — Andy Glaze reveals it’s much more like a family reunion, a test of resilience, and a celebration of pushing boundaries. With five finishes under his belt, Andy shares how experience, course knowledge, and a relentless mindset shape his strategy for one of the toughest ultra marathons in the world.He breaks down how each year’s course throws new surprises—be it mud, heat, or rain—yet his approach remains the same: keep moving forward, stay healthy, and embrace the chaos. Discover the behind-the-scenes stories of race-breaking weather, unexpected obstacles, and what really goes through Andy’s mind when the miles get brutal. You’ll learn how knowledge of the course, mental toughness, and even a playful Mingus basketball shot challenge keep him going through the long, lonely hours in the wild Arizona landscape.This episode dives into the heart of ultra endurance—highlighting the importance of mental resilience, adaptation, and a smile when things get toughest. Andy also reveals the surprising similarities between writing a book and running 250 miles—both demand determination, grit, and a love for the journey, not just the finish line. Perfect for ultrarunners, adventure seekers, or anyone facing their own daunting challenges, this episode is packed with insights that will inspire you to reframe how you approach your hardest days.And yes, Andy’s new audiobook gives you an unfiltered inside look at his incredible journey—seven hours of storytelling, his signature humor, and the grit that makes him a true ultra legend. Whether you’re dreaming of the next big race or just need a dose of motivation to tackle your daily grind, this episode will leave you ready to face whatever comes next with a smile—and maybe a basketball shot or two.

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FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026!Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors!Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Join ultra-distance runner Cody Poskin as he shares his daring approach to tackling 250-mile races, including surviving a sand dune disaster and a race-altering tumble. Discover his winning strategies for Cocodona 250, like mastering quick naps, avoiding chafing, and leveraging course familiarity. Cody's insights on mental resilience and race strategy will inspire ultrarunners and endurance athletes to push their limits and rethink what's possible on the trail. Perfect for those curious about the unpredictable world of ultra-distance racing, this episode promises to inspire and entertain.

Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors!Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode of "Distance to Empty," we welcome back Michael Koppy, a seasoned ultra-marathon runner, to discuss his recent experiences at the Arrowhead 135, a grueling 135-mile race through the icy wilderness of Minnesota. Michael shares his journey of redemption after a near-finish DNF in 2024, detailing the challenges of extreme cold, self-sufficiency, and the mental and physical endurance required to complete such a demanding race. The conversation delves into the unique aspects of cold-weather racing, the importance of preparation, and the inspiration Michael provides to others by achieving remarkable feats at the age of 75.

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