Beers with Engineers

56 – Doug Katz and Gordon Downey: The Tony Stark of Adaptive Products Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Nulu Knives: https://nuluknives.com/  BWENULU2026 to save on a Nulu knife Doug Katz – wouldn’t name children Alley or Tom Gordon Downey considered April Fresh and Summer Breeze for his twins Doug went to West Point Gordon is an industrial designer but started studying advertising Was also a commercial photographer. Industrial designers need to know a bit about engineering BUT Engineers need to know a bit about industrial design. Their Nulu knife is based on the ulu knife used by eskimos. Part of the motivation to make the knife was Doug’s shoulder problems. It also works with people with mobility problems and vision impairment. The Nulu requires macro body movement more than micro body movement. Knife technique is very important to chefs. Grip strength is a good indicator of life expectancy. Looking to get into markets where people use knives all day long to prevent repetitive stress injuries. One challenge is it is tough to sharpen. Gordon plays guitar. Doug is a failed musician. Steve Zhan would play Gordon movie. Robert Downey, Jr would play Doug, who wants to be the Tony Stark of adaptive products and was an extra in “Rampage” Nulu Knives: https://nuluknives.com/ Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#55 – Howard Silverstein: Sometimes it just Clix Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Likes to drink a black and tan Tonight, opening a bottle of 18 year old Macallan Has a mechanical mind but is not handy with tools. Likes to keep it simple. “Yes if…” not “No because…” The business card holder he worked on. They invented “Clix” to fill boats with gas without spilling. It’s more than just a funnel. For some reasons boat openings are different from cars. Also applies to construction vehicles and more. “The day you stop learning is the day you start dying.” Won Innovation Award of the year at the International Boat Builder’s Exposition. All attendees were happy to see them win. Never say no. Compromise? Maybe. Three rules Trust no one. If you think you are perfect, you are not. If when you do your job, you’re not making the next person’s job easier, you’re not doing your job. He is a gamer. Likes Project: Gorgon Would enjoy living in Israel or Ireland. Howard’s product, clix – www.clixfueling.com Promo code: 10OFF Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#54 – Naeem Turner-Bandele: His plan is electrifying Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Likes to drink Ginjinha, a Portuguese cherry liqueur Wanted to be a professional soccer player. Moved to Brazil and discovered power outages were frequent. Then he got a serious concussion and pivoted to wanting to start an energy technology company. From no interest in engineering to getting a PhD. He is known for being a man with a plan Dissertation topic was integrating renewables into the electric grid His company, Latimer Enterprise, is named for Lewis Howard Latimer About lights bulbs not lasting a long time: it was called the Phoebus cartel. The power industry treats customers as load, not as a customer. He works with the customers as customers and people. Naeem ran track in addition to soccer. 200/400 double vs 400/800 double in track Renewables are a challenge to the grid but the big issue is still storage. Get an energy audit! Naeem can help. Naeem is a big movie fan. Recommends the movie “Sinners” – vampires in the Jim Crow south Naeem loves “Citizen Kane”. Bert – not so much. Naeem’s company and email: www.LatimerEnt.com, naeem@latimerent.com   Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#B5 – Josh Weaver: Engineers/Christmas Josh is Bert’s nephew for this Christmas themed podcast Josh is drinking a Bell’s Lighthearted IPA. Bert is enjoying a Bailey’s Irish Cream. One semester as a computer science major. A few years as a commercial painter but did not see it as a long term thing. Started working for his step-father’s manufacturing company. Forgive the dog sneaky toy in the background. Josh “sequestered” the dog and the toy. Works for Oster Manufacturing. They make pipe threading equipment, not toasters. Josh helped out a woman who sent them her can opener. He spent about 15 minutes at Mt. Rushmore. His wife makes an awesome cheesecake. The Poochie story – Uschold family lore. Josh enjoys rock crawler radio control cars. He loves the classical Christmas songs and versions. Bert hates Neal Diamond Christmas songs

#53 – Stan Leong: Engineering Your Finances Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Stan is a Buffalo Bills fan, like Bert. Electrical engineer from Cornell Likes how the simple things of electronics build into complex things. Was laid off the week after he bought his first house. Saw a financial job on Monster.com (remember that?) Got all his clients through cold calling So miserable his wife handing out resumes to engineering companies. 15:00 After a rough start, he now loves his career- and is still using his engineering skills. Engineers are good with numbers, unless there is a dollar sign before them. Don’t own too much of your company stock. It is easy to buy stock, it is hard to sell it. Great book – “Millionaire Next Door” The threshold for an accredited investor hasn’t changed. Is active in ju-jitsu and it’s the hardest thing he has done. Right now he is cautiously optimistic about investing. Stan’s book – www.engineeringyourfinancesbook.com Get a free copy - stan@engineeringyourfinancesbook.com Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com

#52 – Therese Miclot: The Engineer Whisperer Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Drinking a Spotted Cow, available only in Wisconsin. Observed her mom who struggled with bad bosses. Got intrigued by the psychology of work. First job at a heavy engineering company – Rockwell Found leadership and communication skills lacking in engineers. But both are important even if you don’t want to go into management. “The Trusted Advisor” by Maister, Green, and Galford Engineer should look at changing habits as expanding their range. Dual career path options still exist for engineers. Business cards aren’t dead yet. Openness to receive feedback is a fuel for growth Peter principle is still in existence, commonly in fast growing companies. Therese gives the skill necessary to move into senior management. Steve Jobs was a good leader despite being a jerk, not because of it. Sometimes engineers need to be quiet Milwaukee is a great town and a lot of manufacturing Indianapolis is not bad either. Fun activities at the racetrack Daytona Speedway also has great activities. Work on human interactions to future proof yourself. Engineers are facilitators. Therese’s website – www.ThereseMiclot.com  Therese’s book – The Facilitation Advantage Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com

Show Notes #51 – James Kell: Seven continents without trying James lives on the beach in Bondi, Australia He could be a wedding crasher without making up occupations Likes to do fasting 36 – 72 hours Studied engineering in Germany but went into construction He eats Vegemite and teaches the secret of eating it. Australians also check to see if water swirls the other direction in the toilet when crossing the equator. Won an Australian Shark Tank contest. His construction company built Apple stores Scratchie app makes safety about reward and punishment McDonald’s stores in Australia are using it. He has been to all seven continents Three tips for Antarctica Go at start of summer Go to Ushuaia, Argentina with no ticket and get an open seat. Go to South Georgia, Island We discuss Ernest Shackleton “South: The Endurance Expedition” by Ernest Shackleton “Adventure is just a lack of planning” Volunteer lifesaver Read Self Determination Theory by Richard Ryan and Edward Deci   James’s company - https://www.scratchie.com/ James’s email – james@scratchie.com Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com

Bonus Episode #4: Year 2 Jokes Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  In this bonus episode all of the jokes from the second year of the podcast are compiled in one place. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as I enjoyed putting it together.   Enjoy! Bert's company - www.dexterityeng.com  Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#50 – Charles Gillis, P.E.: Engineering and art Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Drinking a Start Line IPA in honor of his hometown, Hopkinton, where the Boston Marathon starts. His mom knew he would be an engineer long before he did. Has an interest in art, but isn’t an artist Artist and engineers both combine existing things in new and interesting ways. Worked controllable pitch propellors First job at Gillette. Everything is fascinating if you look at it close enough Bert gets corrected - Nypro was assembling Gillette, not Bic shavers. The mystery of razor blade profit margin. Has engineered several pieces of kinetic art around Boston. To be a PE or not to be a PE. Teaches GD&T – there is a big need for it – and related courses. Was able to wean off of Gillette before going fully into training Sometimes you should make your own datum. Likes to write in his spare time. Charles' Company www. dynamicdesignconsulting.com   Charles blog www.thebasicdimension.com/ Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#49 – Scott Bruneau: A traditional non-traditional engineer Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop   an engineer is somebody who makes precise guesswork based on unreliable data provided by people with questionable knowledge. Studied nuclear engineering in high school. Yes, high school. Buuuut, got his engineering degree late in life. An early position was in quality – to get to know the parts – because that group knows them best. Worked on drill rigs – building and using. Buying Delaware metals was a legacy decision, not a financial one. AeroGrowth has helped his business grow. Ownership will give you humility. Quoting production jobs was a big learning curve They are very transparent about prices and costs Also wants to partner with other shops. Demand is high. He’s working a lot of hours: his systems are good but not all the right people yet. Needs good machinists, not just operators. Interdependent, not co-dependent Likes the mental discipline of golf Not a fan of Nicholas Cage Books: “Good to Great” Jim Collins “The Goal” Eli Goldratt “12 Rules for Life” Jordan Peterson “Seven Habits of Highly Effective People” Steven Covey Scott’s Company – www.delewaremetals.com AeroGrowth – www.aerogrowthllc.com Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#48– Bob Bouthillier: Innovation Requires Disobedience Merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop  Like father, like son. His father was an electrical engineer. But started college as a pharmacist Did quality inspection of guns – including a Howizter cannon. He can assemble guns fast – not quite as fast as Forrest Gump. Inspecting ball bearings – stains vs pits. His podcast summarizes books on innovation. Just as generals are well prepared for the last war, CEOs operate in a similar way. You don’t get real innovation without disobedience. Treat AI like an intern. Gell-Mann amnesia Effect – be careful trusting AI. His AI prompts are longer than the output. Pro2Health – inspiratory muscle trainer The Houston Rockets tested it. Plays the piano – had played professionally in bands. Neuro transformation therapy – cures PTSD Recommendations for engineers Learn python Learn agile techniques Learn to use large language model Learn to build agents with LLM. All the books: “Apple in China” by Patrick McGee “Blink” by Malcolm Gladwell “The Happiness Hypothesis” and “The Righteous Mind” by Jonathan Haidt “Switch” by Chip and Dan Heath “A Higher Call” by Adam Makos “Loon Shots” by Safi Bahcall AI Human Fusion” by Leanne Shelton Bob’s Podcast - “Innoguide” Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#47 – Jordan Poots: He’s good at maths. Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Mechanical engineer from Northern Ireland Who quickly went into software. Maths or math? Well, it is mathematicS. UK still has a mix of English and metric He was into AI before it was cool. Studied vehicle on-ramp merging Can change the car from altruistic to individualistic behavior Still interested in mechanical engineering, such as FEA. One use of AI for engineers is as a chatbot for help with software. AI makes arithmetic mistakes – it is know to struggle with it Evolutionary algorithms are a type of AI. Computers beat humans in chess and go. Poker is next. Jordan loves solving hard problems By his own accord, he is determined (or is it stubborn). He is a coffee nerd and won’t admit how much he paid for his coffee maker. Jordan sleeps like a baby – in the good way. Young engineers need to take risks. Try and find out. Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#46 – Noel LaFlamme: Hammer and Forge Metallurgist Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Always interested in how things work and making it better. Which led to blacksmithing - by way of archery Made arrowheads out of rebar. Which (of course) led to a sword. Rules of thumb for temperature of steel. Blacksmithing is a hobby that makes a few bucks. Specialty is chef’s knives Good knives are tapered from spine to edge and from bast to tip. YouTube videos on knife making are a mixed-bag. 1st job out of college was at a venture capital firm. Left to be more involved in the actual creation. Three most important factors for a startup – the team, the team, and the team. Good innovation often comes from startup pivots. “Getting around” patents Really enjoys flyfishing – and makes his equipment Did fly fishing make Ted Williams a great hitter or vice versa. Craft food for the movie filming of Moonrise Kingdom was in his front yard. Apolo Anton Ohno is often confused for … Apolo Anton Ohno.   Reach Noel at www.Laflammeforge.com Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#45 – Dan Schreiber: Beer Flavored Ice Cream Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Dan is an architect in Green Bay but had always wanted to be a farmer. Stroh’s was the local macro-brewery when Dan and Bert went to college. They made ice cream, then and still do today. Do corn farmers put feed corn around the perimeter of their field? Bert and Dan rode a mechanical bull in Kentucky Felt like an architect on his second job. Dan thinks architects adopted CAD at about the same rate as engineers If he was born ten years later, he probably would have gone into IT. Early CAD was tough to use. To call yourself an architect, you need to be licensed. Not so for engineers. Licensing exam – 9 sections. The last one was 12 hours long. Are “no scale” and “not to scale” different? Antoine Davis (who?) and Pete Maravich. Throwing Hershey bars onto the basketball court. It is awesome going through a building you designed. Go to Marquette, MI to see his work. The Great Bridge: The Epic Story of the Building of the Brooklyn Bridge, by David McCullough Using a tree as the center column of your building. Not a farmer today, but enjoys gardening. You can tap butternut trees. Makes a smooth, buttery syrup. In high school, Dan went into the engine compartment to work on the engine. T-shirts at www.beerswithengineers.shop. Use “podcast” for 15% off. Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#44 – Caitlin Vaillincourt: How to avoid braking chip. The edible ones. Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Pros and cons of longer or shorter college terms Played basketball in college and traveled abroad Part of global leadership development program at Avery Dennison and loved the experience. Interned at Frito-Lay reducing potato chip breakage. For now, she is happy with project management but misses working with customers. The 8D quality approach is eight disciplines, not eight things that start with D. https://asq.org/quality-resources/eight-disciplines-8d It seems easy to make a cable tie but many things can go wrong. Bert dares sci-fi writers to write a chapter on how a self-replicating probe replicates itself. She has her PMP – project management professional – certification. Project managers have to influence without authority. Started a new job just as Covid hit. Not easy In the early Covid days, our company sent masks to our colleagues in China. The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt is well worth reading about phones and kids. Duo Lingo – some good and some bad. The Anxious Generation  by Jonathan Haidt   Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Bert’s email - bert.uschold@outlook.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#43 – Josh Tarbutton: Accidentally Awesome Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Likes Sugar Creek Brewery in Charlotte, NC. They have a master cicerone (you’ll have to listen to find out) Started working at age 12. Got GED and went to Georgia Tech. PhD dissertation was on CNC machining software In the Army reserve in Iraq, he was a fuel specialist who actually knew about fuel. Bravo team name is partially from the SEAL team and partially from Italian Bravo! You do and learn a lot at product development firms. B-players in an A-system yields success. Engineers are driven to do their best. It is easy to mess up simple. Professors need to bring in money and publish Engineers paint the laws of the universe on the canvas of the world. Learning engineering is like learning cooking. College professors need some education classes. There’s no sympathy for professors and billionaires Being a professor is like running a startup. Inc 500 two years in a row (maybe 3?) Reach Josh: Joshua@bravoteam.tech www.bravoteam.tech Bravo Walk Dog Collar - https://bravowalk.com/ Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#42 – Gretchen Gagel: Leaving the world a better place. Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Likes beer from Boulevard Brewing in Kansas City In Australia, the living room is the lounge room. Went to SMU and saw Eric Dickerson play. Dad sold construction equipment and she played with Tonka trucks. Built Baltimore Ravens Stadium and many other things. Very little manufacturing in Australia, therefore most construction is infrastructure. Most construction job in Australia are 6 days a week. No wonder it is tough to hire. Some evidence shows same output in 4 days as in 5. Get the right people in the right seats on the bus. Culture and performance are key to team success. The Savannah Bananas have a great culture. Leaders need to be agile. Don’t be like Blockbuster or Kodak. Leadership training needs to start early Edgar Shine: Leadership is “Seeing things that need to be done differently and convincing people to do it.” Personal Mission Statement “Leave the world a better place than I found it.” Gretchen’s book: “Building Women Leaders: A Blueprint for Women Thriving in Construction.” The other books we mentioned “Apple in China” by Patrick McGee “Good to Great” and “Built to Last” by Jim Collins “Leadership” by James McGregor Burns “Seven Habits of Highly Effective People” by Stephen Covey. Gretchen’s website - https://greatnessconsulting.com/about-gretchen/ Bert’s Sister’s quilts - www.ArtQuiltsBySuzanne.com Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".  

#41 – Wes Schwie: Porsches, patents, problems, and pigs. Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Became an engineer to be like his brother. Became a patent attorney because his friend’s uncle drove a nice Porsche. He learned writing patents and claims as mostly on the job training. First job as an inside sales engineer – wasn’t that good at it. Firm’s name of Gallium Law was proposed by a friend. Gallium (the element, not the law firm) has anti-bacterial properties. Favorite accomplishment is starting Gallium Law. Worked for Innovelis that makes mounts for various electronics gadgets. Patents aren’t as expensive as you might think (although they can be) Telling your friend about your product idea is not generally public disclosure. Also working with a company called Drivent, who is working on technology for self-driving cars. Home much credit does the person who identified the problem have vs. the person who invented the solution? There is no cross examination in a deposition. Different rummy card games. Monopoly Deal is a card game version of Monopoly. Wes can empty his mind – with the help of Yoga. Breath by James Nestor. Wes Schwie's Company - Gallium Law  www.GalliumLaw.com Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".            

#40 – John Clarke: Don’t be a cow on ice Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Found morel mushrooms in his yard and ate them. And ventured into others. Hunting wild berries Drinking Little Willow beer – tired it because his daughter is Willow. Tried numerous manual labor jobs in high school – which convinced him to go to college. Manager to engineer to manager. Worked at a high tech textile company A great project that was awful. A crazy way to remove tatoos. Maybe. Nitinol tubing in a medical device Lack of documentation really annoys him. Feeling like a cow on ice. Who is your chief jailable officer? Design validation vs design validation. DHF vs DMR John bakes, his wife cooks. John plays guitar, bass, and other similar instruments Likes the freedom of music. John and his wife listen to music totally differently. Bert turned John onto early Fleetwood Mac. John’s business - Fern Hill House Gardens  On Facebook. Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".

#39 – Kyle Smith: Engineering knowledge and wisdom Beers with Engineers merchandise - www.beerswithengineers.shop Kyle saved Bert’s butt by modifying parts overnight You tend to repeat small mistakes, but not big ones. Another engineer who started with Legos Self-taught on an early computer animation program – Maya. Which led into SolidWorks Got a mill for cheap and converted to CNC Kyle and Bert both use Send Cut Send – not sure how they make money. Company name is Sparrow Hawk Design – small and agile. Industrial designers need to interact with engineers. Two excellent books Manufacturing Processes for Design Professionals Handbook of Product Design for Manufacturing Can AI advise you on capabilities of manufacturing processes? Prediction: AI will be in SolidWorks in the not to distant future. Difference between junior and senior engineers Executives don’t need to know all of the problems Flies radio control airplanes and built drones Rides motorcycles Wants to ride from Patagonia to Alaska Kyle’s company – www.sparrowhawkdesign.com. Bert’s Company – www.dexterityeng.com Hat tip to Joseph McDade for free use of his music "Mirrors".