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Author: Nathan Fradley and Jordan Vaka

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Welcome to the Challenge the Standard podcast - a podcast for financial advisers, by financial advisers.

Your hosts, Nathan Fradley and Jordan Vaka, will examine the biases, fixed thinking and status quo in advice. In every episode, we'll dive deep into the world of financial advice, questioning the norms, sparking new ideas and exploring how we could do things better.

Our goal is to elevate our professional practices and 'uphold and promote the standards of our profession.

So, whether you're a seasoned adviser or a bright new entrant to the Australian market (and beyond), this is where we challenge the standard, together.
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Fresh off the release of his first book - Retire Life Ready - we're joined by James Wrigley. With the largest following on social media of any Australian financial adviser*, James is building his practice by talking to people on all the social platforms.  Which is why, in this episode, we studiously ignored talking about social media or marketing.  Instead, we wanted to know about his experience working within a larger firm: How do they structure their teams? What're the key considerations with managing the people around you? How are they sharing the work that James' public profile is bringing in? What are some of the challenges advisers face when working within a business that offers asset management as a product? Who does he have in his top 10 friends list on his MySpace page, and how does he avoid upsetting people in the office when he - inevitably - leaves them out?   *I think this is true? CPD For this Episode: https://quiz.ensombl.com/NATH-25111312-08020001 - Technical Competence: 0.75 - Client Care and Practice: 0.25   James: James.Wrigley@firstfinancial.com.au James Wrigley - First Financial   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143. 
Index vs Active - it's the investment debate we all love to keep having.  Or, is it? Because what's presented as a flat, binary choice is really much more nuanced. And, to be frank, boring.  More interesting to us - and what we explore in this week's episode - is the framework and process advisers build to help answer the many "what about"s that come up when we're building our own investment philosophy.  Because indexing is fantastic...but what about that concentration risk? And active management has its place...but what about those costs? There is grey here, which we love to explore!   You can now get CPD points for listening to two knuckleheads (and guests!) wax lyrical about financial advice for an hour at a time.  To choose the episode you'd most like to see CPD for, visit the link below, and donate to Good Shepherd charity to lock in your choice.  Request past Episodes for CPD: https://forms.office.com/r/Nu2euRRQx7 CPD For this Episode: https://quiz.ensombl.com/NATH-25110619-27220001 - Technical Competence: 0.25 - Professionalism and Ethics: 0.75     Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143. 
How much of your actual development as a professional is being captured via your CPD obligations? Are you only doing 40 hours of learning across the year? Or are you constantly learning? If the latter, then join us this week as we chat with Clayton Daniel of CPD Check. Best known for his central role in the rise of the Ensombl platform, Clayton has turned his eye to expanding and democratising the CPD accreditation process.  And he's gone even further and agreed to allow us to submit all future (and up to 20 past) CTS episodes for accreditation! That's right - you'll be able to get CPD points for your commitment to listening to two knuckleheads wax lyrical about financial advice for an hour at a time.  To choose the episode you'd most like to see CPD for, visit the link below, and donate to Good Shepherd charity to lock in your choice.  Request past Episodes for CPD: https://forms.office.com/r/Nu2euRRQx7 CPD For this Episode: https://quiz.ensombl.com/NATH-25103104-48590001 Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
S6E17 Referrals

S6E17 Referrals

2025-10-2301:10:09

Referrals. We all need them. We all want them. And we're all, to some degree, getting them.  But what works? Why does it work? And, critically, what doesn't work? In this week's episode, Nathan and Jordan have a shot at unpacking this huge and critical topic, to discuss: How advisers can easier find clients they like working with The two key problems all business owners face Why those of us who aren't charged with finding new work should take a moment to appreciate how difficult that job can be Their own (mis)adventures when it comes to finding more people they like to work with - who also want to work with them.  For bonus points, one of them takes you through his bird species preferences - in order of tastiness.  Enjoy.  Thanks to CPDCheck you can get CPD for this Episode Access the Quiz here: https://quiz.ensombl.com/NATH-25103105-12020001 Check out our Newsletter (and you can sign up at the bottom of the page) Coffee Optional Books etc The Technium: 1,000 True Fans BOOKS | Nick Murray Company Robert Cialdini - Science Of Persuasion Matthew Jarvis Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
S6E16 Expectations

S6E16 Expectations

2025-10-1601:02:56

We're getting philosophical again this week, but unlike our other meanderings up our own backsides - this one has real value for listeners*.  Nathan realised recently that our job as advisers comes down to one, big concept: expectations.  Helping clients recognise, articulate, explore, challenge and achieve their expectations.  This seed of an idea triggered a conversation that touches on: The gap between aspirations and expectations (and whether the value of our advice sits in there) The power of challenging a clients expectations What you can achieve by asking a client about their expectations - and whether their expected destination lines up with their desired one How the strength of your questioning around expectations ultimately aligns with your value and quality as an adviser It's a big, wonderful topic and we loved recording this episode. Be sure to share it with anybody you know who is curious about advice, and how to tweak the way they're delivering it.    *You're welcome for me not including the word 'nuggets' in this opening line.   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.  If you see this, Jordan forgot to do the text. 
S6E15 First Meetings

S6E15 First Meetings

2025-10-0901:06:39

We can all agree that the first meeting is crucial.  But - why? What are you looking for out of that meeting? What makes the first meeting a successful one? What's your intention for this meeting - and for the entire process around it? In this week's episode, Nathan and Jordan unpack what they think makes a good first appointment, what they've seen other advisers doing and what they've learned from talking with people like Brendan Frazier.  With the now-customary digression into sceptical naivete and dissection of their own, internal processes, this episode is all about asking listeners - how good's your first meeting, and how can you make it better?   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
We're joined this week by Ashley Taylor, accredited family law specialist from Lander & Rogers. Ashley's here to help us unpack the trickier financial complexities that can arise in divorce negotiations, including: Family trusts in all their wonderful permutations Why it's not as simple as 'if you're the appointor, it's in the pool' How intergenerational trusts are looked at in the settlement process What a Div7A loan is - and why family lawyers treat them very carefully Some of the things, flags and points financial adviser can look out for when helping their clients navigate their divorce AND - some of the topics advisers should be discussing with clients before they set up any of these structures.  And while we didn't get to the thorny topic of SMSFs in divorce, we did sneak in a cracking GTA: Vice City reference - so that's a clear win.  (PS Nathan apologises for sounding like he was in a tincan, he recorded offsite today) Ashley: LinkedIn Lander & Rogers Guide to Family Law for Financial Service Practitioners   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
S6E13 Private Assets

S6E13 Private Assets

2025-09-2501:02:29

We've thought about doing an episode about private credit, equity and markets for a while now - but couldn't ever work out the right angle to take on such a big topic.  Then the news cycle swooped in and gave us the link we never knew we needed - between private credit investments and Target Market Determinations (TMDs).  This is a big topic, and Nathan and Jordan do their best to: Define just what all these private market investments are Acknowledge the tough path last week's news will have left for advisers who've recommended these products Why they don't use these products in their own portfolio advice The issues they have with these funds Why TMDs have never made much sense - until, perhaps, now At some point Nathan plays the guitar.  With a tasty side dish of acronym soup - TMDs, DDO, RG, ASIC, LIF, BID, CoE and, naturally, CSLR.  Finally, it might be hard to tell, but we also try to tread a very fine, please-don't-sue-us line as we navigate this story too.   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
S6E12 Roll for Niche

S6E12 Roll for Niche

2025-09-1801:07:16

You've heard the experts (and these two mugs) repeatedly say "you should niche". But they never pay you the courtesy of explaining how.  Well, let us rectify that oversight in this week's episode by giving you one, easy answer: "Roll a dice". Or, more accurately, a set of D&D dice. This week, Nathan and Jordan set up a number of different categories and roll the dice to build out and explore potential niches.  Not to build a business around them, but instead to demonstrate some of the thinking, considerations and options that come from building out your own financial advisory niche.    Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
What's stopping you from being more active on social media? From a professional perspective, that is - I'm sure you're forever taking photos of your meals on your own account.  But when it comes to work (or your business), what's stopping you from getting your voice out there? Is it shyness? Impostor syndrome? Perfectionism? Disdain? Or a mix of the above? Well, that's why we asked Deline Jacovides from Mazi Wealth on for this week's episode, because she has entirely grown her business using social media.  And she helps us by running through: The low(er than previously) time investment she makes in her overall marketing each month How many new leads 3 posts per week have earned her over the last few months The biggest bottleneck in her business Why her intentions in starting her social media presence matter Our hope in this one is to inspire at least one listener to start sharing more of themselves on social media. For the commercial and economic benefits, yes.  But also because there are a lot of other great people out there that you might get to meet. And the longer we're in this game, the more we're beginning to realise that it's the people you meet and work with along the way that make the biggest impact.  Except for that one person at Deline's Brisbane FAAA presentation - they'll probably think it's all a bit "pointless".   Deline Instagram No phone number. Natch. Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
This week we're back with a Q&A episode, tackling three big questions that have been landing in our inbox from our listeners.  New and exciting Annuity products: With a wave of new products hitting the market, we unpack what advisers should watch out for, why a healthy dose of skepticism is essential, and the dangers of shiny innovation that later gets grandfathered or disappears. Tax-deductible advice fees: how to think about in-super vs out-of-pocket charging Insurance commissions. Do they really serve advisers, or just the insurers? We share our own experiments with nil-com, rebates, and referrals, and why Independent advisers are better (jokes, they aren't) Drown-Drought cycles for referrals and workload: We get a bit vulnerable on this, as we haven't figured it out yet.  It's a meaty one, blending the usual product skepticism, practice pragmatism, and a few rants about the system (as always).   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143. 
S6E9 The Gameshow

S6E9 The Gameshow

2025-08-2851:48

This week's episode is about an incredibly serious, meaningful topic.  Just kidding.  It's a gameshow!! Mr Fradley has designed an excellent gameshow to put his (bewilderingly bad) co-host and (outstanding) guests, James d'Apice of Gravamen and Morgan Hayward of Lume Wealth through their paces.  He's also managed to keep it in the realm of financial advice!  More fun than should be allowed in any professional endeavour, we hope this works as a palette cleanser after the last few weeks of capital-S Seriousness.  Incredibly fun - be sure to reach out to James or Morgan if you've enjoyed the episode, thank them for coming on for us!   Morgan: Morgan Hayward - Lume Wealth James: Gravamen Law | Co-owner dispute specialists Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
This week's episode is all about the immense difference a network of peers can have on your career, practice and life.  Joined by Charmaine Hall of Unbound Financial, Nathan and Jordan find out: How the peer network Charmaine's part of came to be The pros (and cons) of facilitating, and participating in, a peer group What good practice as a participant looks like A cracking example on the immediate impact advice from peers can have on your business Later in the episode, Jordan expands on his experience with a Practice Group in his time in Ballarat, and the pros and cons of his approach to it all.  We may have also uncovered the real star of this podcast too - see if you can catch his name mentioned in passing.    Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
Whether it's sheer coincidence or not, Nathan and Jordan have happened to have a few...interesting pricing cases float their way since last week's episode on Pricing.  So in this one, they take the time to examine two examples of pricing in the market. Anonymised, but detailed enough to provide lots of meaty discussion, including: How much is too much to charge for financial advice? Who are we to have an opinion about what other advisers are charging? Are our own biases colouring how we see things? What responsibility do individual advisers have to bear the cost of fixing a clients previous  mistakes? Is an SoA going to give us enough information to make an informed judgment of another adviser's fees? What of Standard 12? Hmmm? Well, hmmm? This one was a lot of fun, and that fun was amplified by the wonderful occurence this past week of having multiple advisers get in touch to say nice things about this podcast. It's so nice and rewarding for us to hear that this little project of ours is having an impact in the lives of practitioners out there.  We really hope we're hitting the mark, and capturing those conversations we know other practitioners are having out there. And, as always, trying to remind you that there are way more of us out there than you'd think - you're not alone, you glorious oddball you.   Professional Planner article: Push to serve 200 clients throws adviser burnout risk into spotlight - Professional Planner LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
We've talked about pricing before. We've discussed the options, the methods and (some of) the considerations.  But, let's be honest, the audio sucked and we had even less of an idea than we have now.  So it's time to revisit this foundation stone of the financial advisers practice. Get pricing right, we believe, and yours will be a successful career.  Get it right, or fall for the propaganda that says it's our responsibility to provide cheap advice to all people, and your career will be electron-esque - filled with anxious motion, but little progress. (Yes, there'll be bonding, but not always with the atoms you want to bond with...).  In this episode we hit all the highlights: Why minimum fees are important - and what yours should be What empathetic quoting really looks like Why fees are only one part of the pricing equation How your choices around pricing feeds into every other element of a successful advice practice The benefits of the 50/50 pricing structure We also didn't even mention the CSLR once in the whole episode.  (We did mention Shield, Guardian, MDAs and a variety of other irritants though, so huzzah).    Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
This week's episode is all about the conversations advisers are having - or should be having - with their clients about their truly long-term questions.  Robert Rich of Unite Wealth joins Nathan and Jordan to discuss: The challenges he's found in exploring client views on inheritance, bequests, wealth and support for their kids The way he's structured his process to draw out a person's real financial priorities and values The impact his background in marketing has had on the (rapid) growth of his business, Unite Wealth.  A favourite part comes at the end when he distinguishes the professional financial advisers out there with the historical approach of inherent people pleasing instincts.    The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Robert: www.unitewealth.com.au  Robert and Unite Wealth are authorised representatives of Lifespan Financial Planning Pty Ltd ABN 23 065 921 735 Australian Financial Services License 229 892. Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
S6E4 Client Philosophy 101

S6E4 Client Philosophy 101

2025-07-2401:00:48

This one gets weird... Or, more professionally, it gets introspective. Philosophical. Meandering. Circuitous. Solipsistic. Navel-gazing.  Because this week, Nathan and Jordan are exploring the most arcane topic they've yet covered on Australia's Nichest Podcast: When does a client become a client - and when do they stop being a client? Because while we all 'know' what a client is, did you know it's not defined in any of the legislative or regulatory material we carry around on our shoulders, Atlas-like? And so we explore this topic - from the top-down, to the side, to the other side, inside out, upside down, on our heads, from around the corner and in all sorts of interesting, looping ways.  Like a Christopher Nolan film, but with a slightly smaller SFX budget, this one will hopefully make you think, make you yell at your podcast player and ask your own odd question about this thing we all do.   The LinkedIn Post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jordan-vaka_for-the-financial-advisers-out-there-two-activity-7348599291512356865-jtah?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAETjYwBJl-o206ehOjE85kiX12WAEVN4Uk   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
An alternative title for this episode was CSLR 2: The Rage Cometh, because it is getting messed up.  And one of the journalists really working the beat on this topic is Keith Ford of ifa.com.au, who was good enough to come on and talk us through the latest updates on this rolling snowball of an issue.  From the various product failures potentially adding $2bn to the pipeline, to the labyrinthine ownership entanglements underpinning these latest rounds, through to the phoenixing-esque loophole somehow left in the legislation - Keith has the inside running on it all.  It was simultaneously wonderful having somebody with Keith's level of detail and knowledge walk us through the intricacies of this issue - and hair pullingly frustrating at just how bad this is going to get.  Enjoy!   Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
S6E2 Aged Care Changes

S6E2 Aged Care Changes

2025-07-1059:10

This week's episode is all about the upcoming changes to the Aged Care rules. Nathan's good enough to take an oddly political Jordan through the changes this week, covering: The expansion of the options in the Home Care arena from 4 to 8+2. The value and impact the new 'End of Life' package is going to offer people who want to spend their last days in their home. The changes to the fees - upfront and ongoing - for residential aged care.  How the new-but-not-new hotelling fee is adding to the overall cost.  Why these changes mean the middle class is going to feel the squeeze the most.  Nathan and Jordan also expound on why this is important and relevant for all advisers, not just those directly practicing in the space.  This was a fun one, with lots of ranting and political gasbagging amongst the - hopefully useful - practice insights.    Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
Friend* of the show, Phil Thompson from Skye Wealth joins us this week to discuss the very specific, very niche, but very important topic of duration discounting in insurance.  Phil takes us through just what he's talking about, why it matters and the damage it's doing to the entire insurance ecosystem.  Importantly, though, he also shares what he sees as the best fixes to this problem. His confidence that the industry will see sense and fix this rolling issue is encouraging.  Stay on to the end to hear his unvarnished thoughts on the burgeoning general advice model of life insurance (non) advice too.  To be honest, this won't be the most uplifting episode you ever listen to - this stuff is heavy, the consequences severe and the options limited.  But damned if it isn't fantastic to be part of such a mature conversation relevant to our entire profession.  Thanks again, Phil.    *Perhaps 'former' is more accurate, given the arguing that goes on in this one...and the opening slander too.    Phil LinkedIn Phil's Article We Discuss Skye Wealth Nathan: advice@nathanfradley.com.au www.nathanfradley.com.au Jordan: jordan@planningsolo.com.au www.planningsolo.com.au LinkedIn:  Challenge the Standard in Financial Advice (Podcast): Overview | LinkedIn The information contained in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation. You should consider whether the information is appropriate to your needs, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a financial adviser. Jordan and Nathan are both authorised representatives of PlanningSolo Licensing, AFS Licence 526143.   
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