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Being Human with Steve Cuss

Being Human with Steve Cuss
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From Christianity Today, Being Human with Steve Cuss is Christian counseling in podcast form. Steve Cuss, a former trauma and hospice chaplain, pastor, and leadership coach, guides listeners with a gospel-informed journey of discovery into the world of emotional health: everything from anxiety and reactivity, to triangulation, overfunctioning, and the Enneagram.
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There are different kinds of anxiety, but there is one type of anxiety that always feels real in the moment when it is not. Unlike acute anxiety which is always based on a real threat, like when you have to swerve to avoid a car, chronic anxiety is always based on a false threat. Like making everyone happy, or doing it perfectly every time or always needing to be there for others.
In this episode Steve and Lisa dig into what do you think you need that you don’t really need? And they also help you identify the big 5 sources of false anxiety.
Steve’s latest book explores the gap between our belief and our experience.
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Today on Being Human, it’s all about the Enneagram.
Steve Cuss welcomes back his friend and colleague Jimmy Carnes for a discussion about the nine types and how they reflect the character of God. Carnes explains the holy idea of each Enneagram type—also known as the nine faces of God—and the ways that we are all striving for one aspect of God to be true.
Carnes and Cuss discuss the nuances of their types and others. They consider how the Enneagram system can help people identify where they lose connection with God, themselves, and others. And they discuss navigating grief and anxiety as complex humans who are loved by God.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Capable Life
The Enneagram
Papillion
Thomas Keating’s “Programs for Happiness”
“If Discerning Good & Evil is Good, Why Was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil Bad?” (Greg Boyd, ReKnew)
I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For by U2
History of the World: Part I
The Good Doctor
Andy Gullahorn
Rich Mullins
“Being Human with Steve Cuss” is a production of Christianity Today
Executive Produced by Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper
Produced and Edited by Matt Stevens
Associate Producers: McKenzie Hill, Raed Gilliam, and Abby Perry
Theme song by Dan Phelps
Original Music by Andy Gullahorn
Mix Engineer: Kevin Morris
Graphic Design: Amy Jones
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Start paying attention.
Those three words sound simple enough. And yet, just about everyone who has tried to focus on understanding what’s going on inside themselves knows that the process can get tricky pretty fast. Introspection can be as infuriating as it is illuminating.
On this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss welcomes his dear friend and co-laborer at Capable Life Jimmy Carnes to talk about paying attention. Their conversation covers dehumanization, inner critics, and anxiety. Carnes explains what triangulation is and how Christians can notice and respond to it. He shares some of his own sources of anxiety, how he’s working on addressing them, and how building Lego has become a life-giving habit for him.
Tune in for an episode that is full of tips for growing more connected to God, yourself, and others. And be sure to come back next week as Carnes and Cuss’ describe how the Enneagram, reactivity, and anxiety all fit together, and how the Enneagram can help us connect to God.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Capable Life
The Enneagram
“Being Human with Steve Cuss” is a production of Christianity Today
Executive Produced by Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper
Produced and Edited by Matt Stevens
Associate Producers: McKenzie Hill, Raed Gilliam, and Abby Perry
Theme song by Dan Phelps
Original Music by Andy Gullahorn
Mix Engineer: Kevin Morris
Graphic Design: Amy Jones
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What happens when we’re reactive? We disconnect from our awareness of God.
So says Steve Cuss on this episode of Being Human. With concrete advice and a tone of encouragement, Cuss illuminates the path for listeners who want to name what causes their reactivity so they can stay connected to themselves, God, and others.
Cuss explores how Jesus paves a way for us to connect to our so-called enemies. He directs listeners into prayer and peace as he shares stories of addressing anxiety and reactivity in his own life. And he helps listeners identify how reactivity shows up in their bodies so that they can actively diffuse it.
Tune in for an episode that is Scripturally rich, gently guiding, and practically applicable.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Managing Leadership Anxiety
Capable Life
Richard Villodas
Experimental Theology with Richard Beck
“Being Human with Steve Cuss” is a production of Christianity Today
Executive Produced by Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper
Produced and Edited by Matt Stevens
Associate Producers: McKenzie Hill, Raed Gilliam, and Abby Perry
Theme song by Dan Phelps
Original Music by Andy Gullahorn
Mix Engineer: Kevin Morris
Graphic Design: Amy Jones
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Steve digs deeper into the anxiety known as "reactivity" and the different ways we all respond when our values are broken by others. He uses the 2024 presidential election as an example, giving viewers a couple of tools to manage reactivity. For more about Steve, and to download his video ‘The 4 Spaces of Anxiety’ visit stevecusswords.com
Being Human with Steve Cuss, in collaboration with Christianity Today.
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The first episode of Being Human With Steve Cuss, in collaboration with Christianity Today.
Steve talks about the nature of reactivity, how it disconnects us, and how being a ‘well self’ is kept for human flourishing. Steve shares much of his own journey and gives a couple of tools to manage reactivity.
For more about Steve, and to download his video ‘The 4 Spaces of Anxiety’ visit www.stevecusswords.com
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Hosts Steve and Lisa Cuss look back at insights from Matt Wenger, Ben Mandrell, and Kyle Strobel on the themes of healing, leadership, and spiritual formation. Matt shares insights on overcoming pornography and sex addiction with grace and self-kindness, Ben reflects on playful leadership and resilience during his time at Lifeway, and Kyle unpacks the role of discipleship and spiritual growth in navigating life’s challenges.
Episode Resources:
Explore Matt’s work at the Begin Again Institute
Understanding the Signs and Causes of Betrayal Trauma
More about Ben Mandrell
Read about the turbulent times at Lifeway Resources
Read Dr. Strobel’s Formation Substack
Read Dr. Strobel’s book The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church that Has Abandoned It
Read Galatians 3
Complete Episodes:
Sex and Porn Addiction, Misconceptions That Prevent Healing with Matt Wenger
Beyond Self-Help: Real Spiritual Formation with Dr. Kyle Strobel
Ben Mandrell on Leadership and Resilience in Turbulent Times
Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders:
Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
Capable Life Intensives
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Host Steve Cuss welcomes Ben Mandrell, former president of Lifeway Resources and current senior pastor at Bellevue Baptist Church, for a rich conversation on leadership,faith, and resilience when things are good or in flux. Ben shares candid reflections on navigating cultural shifts, organizational challenges, and the personal cost of leadership amid institutional changes. From closing bookstores at Lifeway to finding joy and playfulness even amid tragedy, his journey reveals how presence and discernment sustain both leaders and communities. Steve and Ben explore the power of daily spiritual practices and small acts of connection that strengthen our relationships with God and one another.
Episode Resources:
More about Ben Mandrell
Learn about Bellevue Baptist Church
Read about Ben Mandrell's call to the Bellevue senior pastor role
Read about the turbulent times at Lifeway Resources
Watch Rick Warren's address to the SBC in 2022
Listen to the sermons of Adrian Rogers
Explore the work of Mark Batterson
Read Steve Cuss’ book: Managing Leadership Anxiety
Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders:
Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
Capable Life Intensives
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Host Steve Cuss and Dr. Kyle Strobel disrupt self-help versions of spirituality and call us back to genuine encounters with Christ. Together we explore how hidden dynamics like assumptions, reactivity, and self-reliance often sabotage spiritual formation—and why cultivating watchfulness in prayer and scripture is the antidote. Drawing from Colossians 4:2, early evangelical practices, and personal stories, Dr. Strobel shows how honesty about our emotions in real time opens the door to true transformation. We also name the dangers of “guruism,” guilt-driven church culture, and unrealistic expectations, pointing instead to authentic growth rooted in humility, friendship, and God’s presence in the ordinary.
Episode Resources:
Read Dr. Strobel’s Formation Substack
Read Dr. Strobel’s book The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church that Has Abandoned It
Read Dr. Strobel’s book Where Prayer Becomes Real: How Honesty with God Transforms Your Soul
John Coe’s free online Bible courses
An introduction to the life and writings of John Cassian (video)
Read Colossians 4:2
Read Galatians 3
Read Colossians 2
Read Psalm 73
Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders:
Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
Capable Life Intensives
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Host Steve Cuss sits down with Matt Wenger for a candid conversation about addiction, intimacy, and healing. Together, they unpack the complexities of sexual addiction, the ripple effects it has on loved ones, and why recovery is best understood as a "team sport." Matt highlights the power of vulnerability, group support, and true intimacy as antidotes to the false connections addiction promises. Steve and Matt also shine a light on betrayal trauma experienced by partners, offering hope, empathy, and pathways toward healing for everyone impacted.
Episode Resources:
Explore Matt’s work at the Begin Again Institute
Understanding the Signs and Causes of Betrayal Trauma
Romans (from the New Testament) - It is mentioned in the context of discussing sin as an infection or condition rather than solely a moral issue.
Read The Great Commandment (in Luke, Matthew, and Mark’s gospels)
Read Romans 8:38-39
Read Romans 7 (Paul discuss sin struggles)
More about Matt Wenger
Other Media:
Steve & Clarissa Moll discuss the Four Spaces of Anxiety
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Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
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In her monthly visit to Being Human, Clarissa Moll from Christianity Today’s The Bulletin takes the host’s chair and turns the tables on Steve Cuss for another rich exploration of the Four Spaces of Anxiety. Together, they discuss how the frenetic pace of modern life can obscure God’s presence—and how intentional pauses can restore spiritual clarity and resilience. The conversation dives into rumination, false needs like control and approval, and the role of prayer and journaling in nurturing healthier relationships. Steve and Clarissa offer insights on differentiation, boundaries, over-functioning, and even the rapid rise of artificial intelligence.
Episode Resources:
Listen: The Bulletin
Read: Genesis 28 (NLT)
Read: Tom Hanks' most iconic roles, from Forrest Gump to Toy Story (EW)
Explore: Introduction to Bowen family systems theory
Other Media:
Steve and Clarissa’s August episode of Being Human
The Bulletin: Steve and Clarissa on Smart Drugs in the Workplace
Explore Clarissa Moll’s website
Read Clarissa Moll’s Substack
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Steve Cuss is joined once again by his wife and fellow counselor, Lisa Cuss, for a practical conversation on the Four Spaces of Anxiety and how these shape our relationships, leadership, and faith. Building on recent Being Human dialogues with Toni Collier and Dr. Les Parrott, Steve and Lisa unpack the hidden assumptions that fuel reactivity, disconnection, and stress. Steve and Lisa explore how faith, vulnerability, and intentional community can break anxiety’s grip and create healthier families, churches, and neighborhoods.
Episode Resources:
Steve & Clarissa Moll discuss the Four Spaces of Anxiety
Explore Toni Collier’s website
Toni Collier’s Don't Try This Alone
Toni Collier’s Broken Crayons Still Color
Toni Collier’s Brave Enough to Be Broken
Drs. Les & Leslie Parrott’s Saving Your Marriage Before It Starts
Dr. Parrott and Judah Smith’s Bad Thoughts: A Preacher and a Shrink's Guide to Reclaiming Your Mind and Soul
Drs. Les & Leslie Parrott’s website
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World-renowned relationship expert Dr. Les Parrott sits down with host Steve Cuss for a raw discussion about reclaiming your mind and soul. Parrott shreds toxic beliefs about empathy, parenting, and vulnerability that have infiltrated Christian culture, replacing them with a vision for emotional and spiritual health that actually works. Together, Steve and Dr. parrott dissect the razor-thin line between empathy and enmeshment, reveal how technology can fuel genuine human connection, and unpack why hearing God’s voice without shame is a game-changer.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Drs. Les & Leslie Parrott’s Saving Your Marriage Before It Starts
Dr. Parrott and Judah Smith’s Bad Thoughts: A Preacher and a Shrink's Guide to Reclaiming Your Mind and Soul
Pastor Judah Smith’s instagram
Drs. Les & Leslie Parrott’s website
David Brooks’ How to Know a Person
Steve & Clarissa Moll discuss the Four Spaces of Anxiety
The Gospel of Mark (ESV)
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Capable Life Newsletter
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Capable Life Intensives
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Discover how anxiety weaves its way into every corner of life—and how to break free. Host Steve Cuss sits down with Toni Collier, founder of Broken Crayons Still Color, for a raw conversation on her journey from brokenness to healing and redemption. Together, they unpack how faith, authentic community, and radical vulnerability can transform deep wounds—like “parentification,” betrayal, and infidelity—into powerful testimonies of hope and resilience. This episode continues Steve’s exploration of the Four Spaces of Anxiety and showcases the need to stop the spread of reactivity.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Explore Toni’s website
Toni Collier’s Don't Try This Alone
Toni Collier’s Broken Crayons Still Color
Toni Collier’s Brave Enough to Be Broken
Explore North Point Ministries
Explore the work of Dr. Curt Thompson
Timothy Keller’s The Prodigal God: Recovering the Heart of the Christian Faith
Listen to Steve and Clarissa Moll Set up The Four Spaces of Anxiety
Watch Steve explain The Four Spaces of Anxiety
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Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
Capable Life Intensives
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The Four Spaces of anxiety and emotional freedom take center stage as Being Human kicks off a new monthly appearance from Bulletin moderator Clarissa Moll, who flips the script and interviews Steve Cuss. Together, they’ll shape the conversation threads that future episodes will explore every four weeks. This month, Steve unpacks the wildfire spread of anxiety and lays out practical disciplines to disrupt reactivity and foster emotional resilience. Rooted in biblical wisdom and grounded in everyday experience, Clarissa re-introduces Steve’s transformative “four spaces” framework—a must-hear for anyone seeking peace, clarity, and connection in a chaotic culture.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Explore Clarissa Moll’s website
Read Clarissa Moll’s Substack
Listen to The Bulletin
Watch Steve explain The Four Spaces of Anxiety
Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders:
Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
Capable Life Intensives
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Jimmy Carnes, a Capable Life trainer, joins Steve Cuss—Anxiety Expert & Creator of Capable Life—for a raw, practical conversation about how unseen emotional patterns like triangulation and interconnectedness can complicate leadership and relationships. Together they explore what it means to lead without having the answers, and why “being human-sized” is more powerful than pretending to be in control. They unpack how lighting a candle can bridge the gap between belief and the felt presence of God.
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Capable Life Newsletter
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Capable Life Intensives
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Steve and Lisa Cuss dive into the messy beauty of faith, spirituality, and personal growth. Together, they unpack the tension between divine love and human responsibility, revealing how everyday moments—even foraging for blackberries—can illuminate the spiritual journey. Through honest reflection and practical wisdom from Steve’s book The Expectation Gap, listeners will discover tools to bridge their faith gaps and cultivate deeper connections with God, themselves, and others. This episode offers powerful insights for building healthier, more grounded relationships—starting from within.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Elizabeth Barrett Browning’s Aurora Leigh: Book Seventh
The Camino de Santiago
This American Life with Ira Glass
Being Human: Grieve, Breathe, Receive with Steve Carter
Being Human: Steve Carter (season 7 episode 7)
Steve Cuss’ The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space between Our Beliefs and Experience of God
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Capable Life Newsletter
Join Steve at an upcoming intensive:
Capable Life Intensives
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Why does reflecting our Creator matter? Steve Cuss dives into the profound impact of remembering we are made in God’s image and how it is an antidote to the mundane. He challenges listeners to do the important work of engaging with beauty, wonder, the ability to learn, and more as a means of reshaping our daily focus. Steve shares actionable "summer homework" that could shift your perspective for good.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Annie Dillard’s Pilgrim at Tinker Creek
Steve Cuss’ The Expectation Gap
Steve’s Life Giving List
Andy Gullahorn’s Bury Me With My Friends
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Lisa Cuss joins Steve to recap three powerful conversations that remind us why our place in the universal, everlasting body of Christ matters now more than ever. Together, they revisit key insights from Glenn Packiam, Chuck DeGroat, and Kyle Idleman—connecting themes of identity and spiritual resilience. From the unifying power of the Nicene Creed to confronting toxic leadership and overcoming inner battles, Steve and Lisa show how spiritual formation offers bold clarity in the chaos of modern life.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Kyle Idleman’s Website
Kyle Idleman’s Every Thought Captive: Calm the Mental Chaos That Keeps You Stuck, Drains Your Hope, and Holds You Back
Explore Southeast Christian Church
Glenn Packiam’s What's a Christian, Anyway?: Finding Our Way in an Age of Confusion and Corruption
The Nicene Creed as stated in The Online Book of Common Prayer
Glenn Packiam's website
The work of Chuck DeGroat at Western Seminary
Explore the Soul Care Institute
The work of Michael Gurian
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Capable Life Newsletter
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Capable Life Intensives
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Feeling burned out by outrage culture and partisan spin? President and CEO of the Center for Christianity and Public Life Michael Wear joins Steve Cuss to chart a bold, faith-rooted path through today’s political chaos. Together, they unpack how Christians can reclaim civic agency through local action, community impact, and love-fueled political engagement. Michael’s sharp insights will challenge listeners to move beyond despair and toward a redemptive, grounded vision of faith and politics.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
The Center for Christianity and Public Life
Michael Wear’s The Spirit of Our Politics
Michael Wear’s Reclaiming Hope
Irresistible Church Network
The Morning Five with Michael Wear (podcast)
The Bulletin (podcast)
Congregation Land Campaign
The work of opinion columnist Ross Douthat (New York Times)
The work of opinion columnist Jamelle Bouie (New York Times)
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it works if you work it.
the peer and the project 🙌🏽
I would love to see a reference to the Aziza, Duke, and Notre Dame study Nancy was talking about.
I think that this is what I’ve been looking for.