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Due South is a source for news, information, and perspectives from across North Carolina and the South. It takes a panoramic view of politics, place, race, and southern culture, among other topics. The show takes deep-dives into the news - while also providing a break from the news cycle with conversations on topics ranging from food and music to arts and culture. Full episodes of Due South air weekdays at 12pm on WUNC.
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On the North Carolina News Roundup...Today, Due South broadcasts from Blue Ridge Public Radio in Asheville. It has been one year since Helene caused widespread destruction in Western North Carolina. One hundred and eight people died in what was the deadliest modern storm in state history, and the total damage in the region exceeded $60 billion. Co-host Jeff Tiberii talks with reporters from BPR about what happened a year ago in Western NC, and what has happened since. Also, political updates, including the crime bill sent to Governor Josh Stein's desk.Laura Hackett, Helene Recovery Reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioLilly Knoepp, Senior Regional Reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioHelen Chickering, Morning Edition Host and Reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioDanielle Battaglia, Capitol Hill correspondent, The News & Observer/The Charlotte Observer/McClatchyMary Helen Moore, reporter, Axios Raleigh
It has been one year since Helene. We honor the first anniversary with a collection of voices and stories, from Western North Carolina. Remembering the deadliest storm in modern history and looking ahead, a year after Helene. This hour of Due South is a collection of voices of those who lived through the storm and includes reports on some of the lingering issues that face the region.Featuring:Leah Wong Ashburn, President/CEO Highland BrewingMaureen Copelof, Mayor of BrevardKevin Corbin, NC state SenatorBeth Holmes, Spruce Pine Town CouncilLilly Knoepp, Senior Regional Reporter, Blue Ridge Public Radio (BPR)Laura Hackett, Helene Recovery Reporter, Blue Ridge Public Radio (BPR)Zachary Turner, Climate Reporter, WFAEAmy Diaz, Education Reporter, WFDDKatie Meyers, Reporter, Blue Ridge Public Radio (BPR)
0:01:00NC’s future scientists may choose new paths after NIH cutsThe effort to end DEI programs across the federal government is having a range of impacts, including the future of science. Due South’s Jeff Tiberii talks with Lynn Bonner and Brandon Kingdollar of NC Newsline about their recent article titled “NC’s next generation of scientists fear careers are going ‘up in smoke’ as NIH grants end.”Lynn Bonner, Investigative Reporter, NC NewslineBrandon Kingdollar, Reporter, NC Newsline0:13:00
A Chronicle reporter investigates closure of Duke graduate student support program
A program supporting graduate students at Duke University was recently shut down. The Chronicle’s Dylan Halper asked why. Dylan talks with Leoneda Inge about reporting the story titled “School of Medicine abruptly shutters grad support program, ‘DEI’ office without warning students or faculty”. Two people directly impacted by the closure also join the conversation.Dylan Halper, University News Editor, The ChronicleJennifer Ocasio, PhD, former director of BioCoRE (Biosciences Collaborative for Research Engagement)Kavya Raghunathan, PhD candidate in cell biology, Duke University0:33:00A NC perspective on funding cuts and changing narratives at national parksToday, as we explore the local impact of the Trump administration’s efforts to dismantle DEI, we turn to our national parks. The National Park Service faces funding cuts while also grappling with the White House’s directive to move away from what it calls “divisive” ideology in telling the history of our country. Due South’s Leoneda Inge talks about national and regional impacts with Jeff Hunter of the National Parks Conservation Association.Jeff Hunter, Southern Appalachian Director, National Parks Conservation Association
0:01:00NC job growth is slow, even while unemployment rates hold steady. Just like the national economy.What the state’s most recent job numbers say about growth, and how North Carolina’s economy is doing while much of the U.S. is in a holding pattern from the global trade war.Michael Walden, William Neal Reynolds Distinguished Professor Emeritus at NC State UniversityNew study shows who got hit the worst by the 2008 recession: Low-income people of colorThe two previous recessions in the U.S. disproportionately affected specific economic and demographic groups. Future recessions could be even worse, according to a new study by economists with the liberal Economic Policy Institute.Valerie Wilson, Director, Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy at the Economic Policy InstituteIsmael Cid Martinez, economist with the Economic Policy Institute’s Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the EconomyAn ancestor’s coded journals led an NC author on a path to understand himselfJeremy Jones found the encrypted journals of his great, great, great, great grandfather, William Thomas Prestwood. After sharing some salacious stories with relatives, he dug into the journals and learned some previously unknown secrets about his ancestors.Jeremy Jones, author of the new memoir Cipher: Decoding My Ancestor’s Scandalous Secret Diaries and a professor of English Studies at Western Carolina University
0:01:00Dr. Mandy Cohen on CDC layoffs and vaccine rollbacksIn a recent New York Times op-ed, former CDC director Dr. Mandy Cohen joined several other former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention leaders to decry Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s mass layoffs, halting of research projects and changes to vaccine and immunization guidance. She joins Jeff Tiberii to discuss the present and potential of the CDC, under the Trump administration.Dr. Mandy Cohen, internal medicine physician, public health expert and former director, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention0:33:00Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People celebrates its 90th anniversaryAn influential group of Black leaders known as the Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People celebrates its 90th anniversary this year. Current committee chair Floyd McKissick Jr. Joins Due South to discuss the history of the organization, its mission and its future.Floyd McKissick Jr., former State Senator, chair of the Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People
On the North Carolina News Roundup... A look at Senator Thom Tillis’ remarks at an FBI oversight hearing this week. Early voting begins in several counties’ municipal elections. And Gov. Josh Stein requests additional Helene relief funding. Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of journalists cover the week in NC news.Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNCDawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & ObserverGary Robertson, statehouse reporter, Associated PressClaudia Rivera Cotto, Political Reporter, Enlace Latino NC
0:01:00Raleigh City Council member Jonathan Lambert-Melton on political violence and fearRaleigh City Council member Jonathan Lambert-Melton talks with Jeff Tiberii about fear, political violence, and rhetoric in the public sphere, following the killing of Charlie Kirk. Lambert-Melton says he has cancelled a public event out of fear.Jonathan Lambert-Melton, At-Large City Council Member, Raleigh0:13:00North Carolina foliage forecast with the "Fall Color Guy’The days are getting shorter, the air is getting cooler and soon leaves across the region will change from green to brilliant reds, oranges, and yellows. Due South’s Leoneda Inge and Jeff Tiberii talk with Appalachian State University biology professor Howard “Howie” Neufeld, also known as the “Fall Color Guy,” about his fall foliage forecast, and when and where North Carolina leaf peekers are likely to get the best views.Howard “Howie” Neufeld, biology professor, Appalachian State University0:33:00Meet the Mayors series: Mayor Jerry McCrary of Parmele, NC On this edition of our “Meet the Mayors” series, Mayor Jerry McCrary of Parmele, NC talks with Due South’s Leoneda Inge about his long road back home to Martin County and his big vision for this small town. Jerry McCrary, Mayor of Parmele, NC
0:01:00NC State professor on history of political violence in the U.S.Political violence has reared its ugly head again in the United States. The killing of Charlie Kirk at a college campus in Utah last week is the latest in a string of politically motivated violent acts, which seem to be increasing in frequency.North Carolina State University’s Irwin Morris talks with Due South’s Jeff Tiberii about our country's history of political violence, what’s changed (or not) in today’s political landscape, and if inflammatory rhetoric actually has a significant role in building support for political violence.Irwin Morris, William T. Kretzer Distinguished Professor of Humanities and Executive Director, School of Public and International Affairs, NC State University0:13:00‘Spare These Stones: A Journey Through Southern Climbing Culture’A conversation with Andrew Kornylak, photographer, filmmaker, and author of Spare These Stones: A Journey Through Southern Climbing Culture. The images in the book capture physics-defying acts and scenes of extraordinary beauty. They also tell a story about perseverance, place, and the South.Andrew Kornylak, photographer, filmmaker, and author of Spare These Stones: A Journey Through Southern Climbing Culture
Data centers are in the news plenty these days. The massive homes for computer servers, cloud storage and Artificial Intelligence are in high demand. A recent analysis from NC State University and Carnegie Mellon University projects the rising number of data centers is likely to increase electric bills by an average of 8% nationally by the end of the decade. Zachery Eanes of Axios Raleigh joins Jeff Tiberii to share his reporting on data centers and rising costs, as well as the environmental and community impacts, in North Carolina. Guest: Zachery Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighEnticed by cheap energy and friendly zoning laws, crypto mining operations poured into Appalachia in recent years. But in many places, like Murphy, North Carolina, these incredibly invasive facilities quickly wore out their welcome. Now, communities across the region are trying to pull the plug on crypto, while grappling with a new challenge that presents many of the same problems: AI data centers. WUNC’s podcast The Broadside and host Anisa Khalifa take a closer look.Scientists estimate between 1.15 million and 2.41 million tons of plastic enter the world’s oceans every year, much of it carried by rivers. NC State University professor Barbara Doll joins Due South to discuss a project that tracks the travel of plastic bottles from Marsh Creek into the state’s river basins and, ultimately, into the Albemarle‑Pamlico Estuary. Guest: Barbara Doll, engineer, associate extension professor of biological and agricultural engineering at North Carolina State University, water protection and restoration specialist with the North Carolina Sea Grant
0:01:00Residential and school segregation are closely linkedIt began with the founding of the Federal Housing Administration, ongoing efforts by housing developers and well-meaning parents hoping to provide the best possible education for their small children. Leoneda Inge talks with Karen Benjamin, author of "Good Parents, Betters Homes & Great Schools: Selling Segregation Before the New Deal." This conversation originally aired August 6, 2025.Karen Benjamin, associate professor of history at Elmhurst University and author of Good Parents, Betters Homes & Great Schools: Selling Segregation Before the New Deal00:33:00The creators of 'Ear Hustle,' the first podcast produced in prisonEar Hustle is the first podcast produced in prison. It’s brought stories from life inside to international audiences. It’s been a finalist for two Pulitzer Prizes. Jeff Tiberii talks with the creators, Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, during their live tour this summer. This conversation originally aired August 6, 2025.Earlonne Woods, co-host of the Ear Hustle Podcast, which he started while serving 31 years to life at San Quentin State Prison in 2017Nigel Poor, visual artist and co-host of Ear Hustle
Violence is at the forefront of American politics: Charlie Kirk killed at an on-campus rally in Utah. Iryna Zarutska, murdered on a train in Charlotte. North Carolina elected officials respond, and our panel offers perspective.GuestsDawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & ObserverBryan Anderson, freelance reporter, creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletterZachery Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighEly Portillo, executive editor, WFAE in Charlotte
ICE enforcement in North Carolina has led to fear and caution across immigrant communities. Businesses and event organizers that rely on the robust participation of Latino communities are expressing economic concerns. Guest: Aaron Sanchez-Guerra, race, class and communities reporter, WUNCIn 1986, NC State basketball star Chris Washburn was a first round draft pick in the NBA. His career would be cut short by a drug addiction he would go on to battle for years. Today, Washburn’s recovery has led him to become a motivational speaker and entrepreneur, based in Hickory, NC – his hometown. Guests: Chris Washburn, former NBA player, entrepreneur and author of the new book, “Out of Bounds: The Chris Washburn Story, from Broken NBA Dreams to Redemption," Ron Chepesiuk, co-author of “Out of Bounds: The Chris Washburn Story, from Broken NBA Dreams to Redemption”A fictionalized stage play about a Black heavyweight champion’s quest to become Heavyweight Champion of the World is debuting at PlayMakers Repertory Company this fall. The Royale follows the story of a boxer grappling with the broader implications of his personal dream to become the first Black world title-holder in boxing. Guests: Galen Ryan Kane, lead actor, and Ray Anthony Thomas, supporting actor in The Royale at PlayMakers Repertory Company
0:01:00WUNC’s ‘Education 101’ series and navigating K-12 school optionsAs the school year gets underway, some parents may already be thinking about next year. With the Triangle region’s array of traditional public schools, magnet programs, and charters, as well as a large number of private schools, the local educational landscape can be confusing.WUNC education reporter Liz Schlemmer talks to Due South about an upcoming event “Navigate Your K-12 Options,” part of WUNC’s Education 101 series explaining how education works in North Carolina.Liz Schlemmer, education reporter, WUNC0:13:00Is North Carolina’s civics education working?The school year is just getting into full swing for most North Carolina students. North Carolina's public high school students must meet a civics requirement to graduate, but is NC’s civics education actually making engaged citizens who understand how government works and how to participate in our democracy?Reporter Sarah Michels recently wrote a three-part investigative series for Carolina Public Press on civics education in North Carolina called “Civics Unlearned.” She joins co-host Jeff Tiberii, along with a panel of guests, to talk about civic engagement and education.Sarah Michels, staff writer for Carolina Public Press specializing in coverage of North Carolina politics and electionsSunshine Hillygus, Professor of Political Science and Public Policy, Duke UniversityBrandon Rivers, Executive Director, Charlotte Democracy CenterJeffrey Fuss, social studies teacher, Enloe Magnet High School in Raleigh
Today on Due South, a conversation with Ted Shaw, a law professor and director of the UNC Center for Civil Rights who once led the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and argued cases in front of the Supreme Court. Shaw talks with Leoneda Inge about the battles he fought then and the resonance they have now, and about his deep connection to civil rights legal legend Thurgood Marshall.Then, Leoneda talks with the director and an executive producer of the new PBS documentary “Becoming Thurgood” – about the life and immense impact of the civil rights attorney turned U.S. Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall.Theodore “Ted” M. Shaw, the Julius L. Chambers Distinguished Professor of Law, and Director of the UNC Center for Civil Rights, at the UNC School of LawAlexis Aggrey, Director and Producer, “Becoming Thurgood: America's Social Architect”Travis Mitchell, Executive Producer, “Becoming Thurgood: America's Social Architect”
0:01:00Chapel Hill’s Mediterranean Deli stages a comeback, two years after fireMediterranean Deli plans a reopening – more than two years after a fire burned one of the area’s most well-known and loved restaurants. Leoneda Inge talks with the owner about the community’s support. This conversation originally aired February 26, 2025.Jamil Kadoura, owner of Mediterranean Deli in Chapel Hill0:13:00UNC professor on the birth, growth and complications of the “pronatalism” movement“Pronatalism” has been in the news lately, in part due to high profile leaders embracing the idea. UNC sociologist Karen Guzzo talks about a movement gaining momentum that could have an impact on federal policy impacting women and families. This conversation originally aired June 16, 2025.Karen Guzzo, Professor in the Department of Sociology and Director of the Carolina Population Center, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
On the North Carolina News Roundup...Debate over Helene recovery funds continues. Governor Josh Stein is calling for more help from the federal government. President Trump says the governor is unfit to run a state. Congress has still yet to act on the state’s request for more than $11 billion in relief.Groups of students across the country are walking out of their classrooms Friday to bring attention to gun violence in schools.And the latest on Winston-Salem/Forsyth County Schools where a massive budget hole has led to layoffs. Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of journalists cover the week in NC news. Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNCBrianna Atkinson, higher education reporter, WUNCLiz Schlemmer, education reporter, WUNCAmy Diaz, education reporter, WFDDDanielle Battaglia, Capitol Hill correspondent, The News & Observer/The Charlotte Observer/McClatchy
0:01:00In Raleigh, Miller Motte College trade program enrollment soarsMiller Motte College in Raleigh has been rebounding quickly since the pandemic. Enrollment for trade professions is rising, particularly in fields like HVAC, welding, dental hygienics, plumbing and CDL.Molly Carney, President at Miller-Motte College - Raleigh0:13:00HBCU 101: Leadership EditionDr. Beverly Daniel Tatum joins Due South to discuss the challenges facing college leaders as financial constraints and diversity restrictions impact college campuses. Dr. Tatum also discusses her new book, "Peril and Promise: College Leadership in Perilous Times."Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum, president emerita, Spelman College and author of “Peril and Promise: College Leadership in Perilous Times”
0:01:00Medicaid cuts loom over the future of health care access in North CarolinaFollowing passage of a federal budget bill, cuts are coming to Medicaid. The impacts will be felt by Americans living in lower income thresholds, predominantly in rural outposts. Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii has a conversation about the looming changes ahead for patients and providers in North Carolina. Nick de la Canal, reporter and host at WFAE – Charlotte’s NPR News SourceShannon Dowler, former CMO of NC Medicaid, and family doctorSarah Jane Tribble, Chief Rural Health Correspondent KFF News0:33:00Dollywood makes an appearance in new Southern romance novelA new romance novel set in Gatlinburg, Tennessee tackles themes of infidelity, infertility, strained family dynamics and single parenting. Due South co-host Leoneda Inge chats with debut author Ashley Jordan about her book Once Upon a Time in Dollywood. Ashley Jordan, author, Once Upon a Time in Dollywood
It's been more than seven months since President Trump was sworn into office for his second term, but efforts to deconstruct the administrative state were in motion long before his January inauguration. There is a framework by which the President, his advisers, and other conservatives have pursued this remaking of many government norms.Durham-based writer David A. Graham is author of the book The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America. Today, an encore edition of Graham’s April conversation with Due South's Jeff Tiberii about Project 2025, plus an update with Graham on how the blueprint has continued to make change across the country this summer. Parts of this interview originally aired April 29, 2025.David Graham, staff writer for The Atlantic; author of The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America
0:01:00How Swim for Charlie aims to even the swim safety field More children ages 1 to 4 die from drowning than from any other cause of death. And drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury death for kids ages 5 through 14. Swim for Charlie is a local nonprofit organization helping second graders to learn how to swim. We're joined by the organization's president, who offers water safety tips for swimmers. This interview originally aired June 11, 2024.Dr. Jonathan Klein, President and Board Chair of Swim for Charlie0:13:00Ruth Pointer reflects on her legendary career with The Pointer SistersRuth Pointer is the eldest sister in the Pointer family and the only surviving member of the legendary Pointer sisters. She talks to Leoneda Inge about her long career and what it's been like to perform without her sisters (and with her daughter and granddaughter by her side). This interview originally aired July 11, 2024.Ruth Pointer, founding member of the Pointer Sisters0:33:00With no public swimming pools within a one-hour drive, Columbus County has become a pool desert.Columbus County, NC doesn’t have a single public pool, and, says Border Belt Independent reporter Ben Rappaport, the nearest one is at least an hour away. He talks to co-host Leoneda Inge about a story he reported in partnership with The Assembly called “The Abandoned Pools of Columbus County.” It’s a story of economics and rural decay, and a story of racism. This interview originally aired September 3, 2024. Ben Rappaport, reporter at the Border Belt Independent
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