[Un]Churned – The No. 1 Podcast for Customer Retention

"How Agentic AI Is Replacing Subscription Revenue"Chuck Ganapathi, the CEO of Gainsight & Brett Queener, Managing Director at Bonfire Ventures, who previously ran product at Salesforce and helped destroy Siebel, the company where he and Chuck first met. Together, they've witnessed every major shift in enterprise software over three decades, and they believe the biggest one is happening right now.In this conversation, Brett unveils his forthcoming thesis on "the end of ARR," arguing that agentic AI will fundamentally break subscription business models. When products finally achieve what he calls "product purity", actually doing the job they promise without requiring armies of CSMs, endless onboarding, and quarterly business reviews, the entire economic foundation of SaaS collapses. Chuck and Brett discuss whether this is an existential threat or the evolution the industry has been waiting for.What you'll learn:- Why the "friction gap" between product and value created the entire CS industry- What "product purity" means and why it threatens traditional SaaS economics- How agentic AI fundamentally changes the unit economics of software- Why usage-based pricing is inevitable once products actually work- The product marketing playbook that still matters in an AI-first worldCheck out the Key Takeaways & Transcripts: https://www.gainsight.com/presents/series/unchurned/Where to Find the GuestBrett's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettqueener/Chuck's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckganapathi/Where to Find Josh: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/In this episode, we cover:0:00 - Preview & Introduction1:18 - Meet Chuck & Brett3:30 - How Brett and Chuck met at Siebel 9:28 - Transition to Salesforce: destruction of Siebel as a goal14:11 - Changing Nature of Product Marketing in the AI Era18:00 - Systems of Record vs. Systems of Action21:13 - Databases as “lossy” representations of reality29:00 - Brett's thesis: "The End of ARR (And I Feel Fine)"34:28 - How should agentic applications be priced?43:43 - Future Outlook: Market paying premium for top agents47:17 - 10x CSMs enabled by AI agentsReferences:- Brett Queener's blog: https://queener.substack.com/

How Human-Centric AI Frees CSMs for Strategic Work at BMCLeading customer success at a global scale is never easy—especially after a company split. For Sofia Barbosa, this meant steering a leaner team while still supporting hundreds of BMC products worldwide. The challenge: deliver more impact with fewer hands. The solution: build Succedo, an AI platform that reimagined how her team worked. The results spoke for themselves—customer success stories accelerated from months to days, output tripled, escalations dropped, and CSMs finally had time to focus on the strategic work that drives growth.In this episode, Sofia shares the inside story of how she’s embedding AI across customer success at BMC. From value summaries and training path recommendations to support prioritization and statements of work, Sofia is proving that AI isn’t about replacing people—it’s about elevating them. She explains how she manages change, structures her AI teams, and why she believes experimentation (and even failure) is the only way forward.What you’ll learn:- How Succedo helped triple the output of customer success stories.- The role of AI in reducing escalations and improving customer sentiment.- How to build specialized AI teams inside a large enterprise.- Why “human in the loop” remains critical in AI adoption.- The mindset shift leaders need to drive AI transformation.Check out the Key Takeaways & Transcripts: https://www.gainsight.com/presents/series/unchurned/Where to Find Sofia: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofiabarbosa/Where to Find Josh: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/In this episode, we cover:0:00 – Preview & Introduction1:40 – Meet Sofia Barbosa (CCO, BMC Software)3:15 – Sofia’s promotion and the BMC split6:53 – Why & how Succedo was born11:30 – The impact of using Succedo12:55 – Using AI to create value summaries15:40 – Creating personalized training paths with AI18:35 – AI for support: prioritization and sentiment analysis21:18 – Automating statements of work with AI24:35 – Building “Succedo Forge” and “Succedo Care” teams27:10 – Managing change and team sentiment around AI28:45 – Advice for CCOs driving AI transformationReferenced:- Sofia's post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sofiabarbosa_customersuccess-ai-bmc-activity-7366224818586685441-q74P

How Disqo Sparked an AI Movement With a Company-Wide HackathonWhen everyone was talking about AI but few knew where to start, Disqo took a bold step: they cleared two full days and ran a company-wide AI hackathon. The result? 70 people, 15 teams, and a wave of innovation that’s still driving value today.In this episode, David Karp, Chief Customer Officer at Disqo, shares the inside story of how they achieved this and how it transformed their culture. From creating starter ideas and cross-functional teams to sustaining momentum with office hours and grassroots initiatives, David lays out the exact playbook you can use to kickstart AI adoption in your own org.What you’ll learn:- How to design an AI hackathon that drives real business outcomes.- Why constraints and scoring criteria make or break innovation.- How to spark bottom-up energy with top-down support.- Ways to sustain momentum with AI office hours and team-led mini-hackathons.- Why AI adoption starts with leaders using the tools themselves.Check out the Key Takeaways & Transcripts: https://www.gainsight.com/presents/series/unchurned/Where to Find David:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidalankarp/Where to Find Josh: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/In this episode, we cover:0:00 – Preview & Introduction1:56 – Meet David Karp, CCO of Disqo2:50 – Disqo’s AI Journey: Where It All Began4:00 – Seeding Ideas: Building the Hackathon Foundation7:09 – The Secret Sauce: Rules, Constraints & Incentives11:40 – Behind the Scenes: Planning Hackathon Logistics16:22 – Scoring, Evaluation & The Prize That Motivated Teams19:19 – How Disqo Ran an Internal CS Hackathon21:35 – Keeping Momentum Alive After the Event23:28 – Outcomes: The Lasting Impact of the Hackathon24:00 – Key Lessons for CS Leaders & SaaS Executives

The Secret Workflow Letting LeeRon Manage 100 Accounts With a 2-Person TeamWhen tasked with managing 100 accounts with just two people, most leaders would immediately start hiring. Not LeeRon Yahalomi. Instead, the VP of Customer Success at Aligned built her own team of AI agents inside ChatGPT that handle customer handoffs, meeting prep, and even communication coaching.In this mind-opening conversation, LeeRon shares how she scaled her team without adding headcount, how she uses AI to deliver “11-star” customer experiences, and why she believes customer success is no longer about post-sales; it’s about the next sale. Whether you’re an AI skeptic or already experimenting with agents, this episode will change how you think about scaling teams, designing workflows, and the future of CS.What you’ll learn:1. Why AI agents are the new teammates in customer success.2. How to use ChatGPT for handoffs, prep, and communication.3. Why CS is not just “post-sales”.4. How to balance AI automation with human empathy.5. How Customer Success can drive revenue when it focuses on expansion, not just retention.Check out the Key Takeaways & Transcripts: https://www.gainsight.com/presents/series/unchurned/Where to Find LeeRon YahalomiLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeron-yahalomi-1b066819/Where to Find Josh: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/In this episode, we cover:0:00 - Preview1:32 - Meet LeeRon Yahalomi & Learn about Aligned's mission 3:31 - The thrill of working in early-stage startups4:55 - Why AI became the only path to growth11:00 - Will AI replace jobs in CS?13:20 - AE to CS Handoff Agent17:55 - Meeting Preparation Agent20:57 - Communication Coaching Agent23:20 - Orchestration CS with Agent26:26 - Prioritising learning AI28:28 - Why CS isn’t post-sales anymore; it’s the “next sale”Referenced:- ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/- n8n: https://n8n.io/

How Kalpana, our Enterprise CSM, Scaled Her Book of Business by 40% With AIKalpana Krishna Kumar, an Enterprise CSM at Gainsight, and Brady Bluhm, Senior Product Manager at Gainsight, join the show to share how they’re reimagining customer success with AI. From Kalpana’s 40% increase in her book of business to Brady’s unlikely journey from child actor to AI trailblazer, this episode is full of surprising stories about scaling, stress relief, and the human side of AI. Together, they reveal how AI is less about automation and more about unlocking the best version of yourself.What you’ll learn:1. How Kalpana scaled her accounts by 40% without burning out.2. Why peace of mind is one of AI’s most underrated benefits.3. The grassroots AI movement that transformed Gainsight.4. Brady’s personal workflow hacks for integrating AI into daily work.5. Why AI isn’t replacing CSMs—it’s making them stronger.Check out the Key Takeaways & Transcripts: https://www.gainsight.com/presents/series/unchurned/Where to Find Brady Bluhm LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradybluhm/IMDb - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0089603/Where to Find Kalpana Krishna Kumar LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kalpana-krishna-kumar/Where to Find Josh: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/In this episode, we cover:0:00 - Preview1:00 - Meet Brady & Kalpana3:35 - First steps with AI 8:24 - Grassroots AI education at Gainsight10:50 - Scaling book of business by 40% 17:13 - Why AI gives CSMs peace of mind19:01 - Find a meeting recording tool24:34 - Predicting the future of CS25:05 - Building personal AI agents & say goodbye to busy work 35:03 - Closing reflectionsReferenced:- Staircase AI - https://www.gainsight.com/staircase-ai/- Gamma - https://gamma.app/- NotebookLM - https://notebooklm.google/- Claude - https://claude.ai/- Zoom AI Companion - https://www.zoom.com/en/products/ai-assistant/

AI is evolving so fast that it’s hard to keep up—sparking both excitement and anxiety about the future of work. Will AI replace jobs, or will it redefine them?In this episode of [Un]churned, host Josh Schachter, SVP of Atlas at Gainsight, sits down with Jeffrey Bussgang, General Partner & Co-Founder at Flybridge Capital Partners and Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School, and Teresa Anania, Chief Customer Officer at Sophos, who’s been leading from the frontlines of AI-driven customer engagement. Together, they unpack the gap between the theory of AI transformation and the reality of implementation in large organizations. Jeff discusses how leaders can foster an “AI native” culture—one that encourages experimentation while valuing human judgment. Teresa shares a candid look into Sophos' AI journey, addressing the fears, resistance, and cultural shifts that come with change. She also highlights practical strategies to empower teams and enhance customer experiences through thoughtful automation.Whether you’re a tech leader, customer success pro, or just AI-curious, this conversation is packed with actionable insights on embracing the future without losing the human touch.Timestamps: 0:00 - Preview0:48 - Meet Jeff & Teresa2:40 - The Impact of AI on Business Innovation5:00 - Fostering an AI-Driven Culture to Elevate Workforce Value16:10 - How AI Enables Rapid Prototyping19:40 - Balancing Human and AI Workflows21:50 - Quality Assurance and Customer Experience at Scale27:50 - Internal “Agent Assist” Solutions35:07 - Dynamics in Adopting AI Solutions______________________👉 Follow the podcast Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@GainsightApple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmDSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Explore more episodes, takeaways & transcripts: https://gainsight.com/unchurned👉 Connect with the guestsJeffrey Bussgang: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bussgang/Teresa Anania: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-anania/Check out Jeff's Book “The Experimentation Machine": https://experimentationmachine.com/👉 Connect with hostJosh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/ ______________________[Un]Churned is presented by Gainsight About GainsightGainsight is the retention engine behind the world’s most customer-centric companies. The Gainsight CustomerOS platform orchestrates the customer journey from onboarding to outcomes. More than 2,000 companies trust Gainsight’s applications and AI agents to drive learning, adoption, community connection, and success for their customers. Learn more at www.gainsight.com.

Meet Chuck Ganapathi, the new CEO of Gainsight!In this special episode of [Un]Churned, host Josh Schachter sits down with Gainsight’s outgoing CEO Nick Mehta and his successor, Chuck Ganapathi, to mark a pivotal leadership transition. Nick reflects on his 13-year journey building Gainsight into a category-defining company, the lessons he’s learned navigating growth, and why now is the right time to hand over the reins. Chuck shares his gratitude for the opportunity, the deep trust he and Nick have built over decades of connection, and his vision for the company’s next chapter—one shaped by AI, customer success innovation, and a human-first culture.Timestamps0:00 - Welcome & The Big Announcement2:25 - Why Nick Is Stepping Down3:54 - Lessons from Private Equity & Building a Lasting Company6:23 - Chuck on becoming the NEW CEO7:10 - How Nick & Chuck First Met (Stanford Days & Startup Stories)16:25 - Why Chuck Was the Obvious Choice for CEO21:12 - CEO Transitions as Turning Points25:40 - Human-First Leadership & Gainsight’s Mission28:20 - What’s Next for Customer Success in the Age of AI 34:12 - Will AI Replace CSMs? (Nick & Chuck’s Take)36:42 - Looking Ahead: The Next Chapter of Gainsight38:52 - Fun Facts About Chuck (Heartthrob, Tennis & Shopping!)44:34 - Final Words: Legendary & Transformational Futures👉 Explore more episodes, takeaways & transcripts: https://gainsight.com/unchurned👉 Check out the bonus episode: https://gainsight.com/unlock______________________👉 Follow the podcast Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@GainsightApple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmDSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guestsChuck Ganapathi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckganapathi Nick Mehta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmehta/👉 Connect with hostJosh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/ ______________________Keywords: Gainsight, Customer Success, Nick Mehta, Chuck Ganapathi, CEO Transition, Customer Retention, SaaS Leadership, AI in Customer Success, AI Agents, Business Growth, Human-First Leadership, Churn Reduction, Scale Customer Success, SaaS Leadership Podcast, SaaS Growth Strategies______________________[Un]Churned is presented by Gainsight About GainsightGainsight is the retention engine behind the world’s most customer-centric companies. The Gainsight CustomerOS platform orchestrates the customer journey from onboarding to outcomes. More than 2,000 companies trust Gainsight’s applications and AI agents to drive learning, adoption, community connection, and success for their customers. Learn more at www.gainsight.com.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #business Welcome back to Unchurned! In this special episode, hosts Josh Schachter and Kristi Faltorusso gather for one last on-air session before a well-deserved summer break—and just before Josh’s London wedding celebration! They also dive into Kristi's AI learning journey—breaking down how she’s gone all-in on micro-learning, prompt engineering, and building real tools with zero engineering background. Listen as she and Josh discuss the importance of actually using AI, not just reading about it, the potential risks of ignoring these skills, and why investing just ten minutes a day could change your game in the evolving tech landscape.Timestamps0:00 - Preview 0:45 - Josh is married/is getting married4:30 - Upcoming summer break for the podcast5:05 - Leadership Loss and Reflections at Planhat8:07 - Kristi is learning & experimenting with AI13:55 - Scaling Personal Expertise with AI18:40 - Encouragement to Engage with AI___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessRachel Tsui, the ex-Head of CS at Komodo Health, joins hosts Jon Johnson and Josh Schachter to dive deep into the intricacies of customer success. Rachel highlights the innovative use of healthcare data to identify patient trends and enhance service delivery. The conversation explores how Komodo's customer success team navigates post-sales processes, strategically collaborates with account management, and the essential role of data-driven decisions. Jon and Rachel also delve into career growth challenges, touching on the balancing act of flat organization structures, professional development, and the evolving expectations of newer workforce generations. Join us for a captivating journey through customer success strategies, organizational dynamics, and how they shape the future of innovation at Komodo Health.Timestamps0:00 - Preview, & Intros7:30 - CS at Komodo Health 10:28 - KPIs for customer success at Komodo12:00 - Plans and Priorities 13:22 - Focusing on separating support from CS activities16:03 - Managing expectations around promotions20:06 - Navigating career growth23:50 - Cross-functional collaboration and tools for knowledge sharing___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://youtu.be/JprAz-o-dWkApple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guestRachel Tsui: https://www.linkedin.com/in/racheltsui👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠________________Keywords: How to keep your customers happy, customer success manager, healthcare map, health data, AI, big data, Komodo Health, customer success, net dollar retention, CSM, customer engagement, healthcare platform, data platform, CS team, account management, product utilization, strategic initiatives, executive relationships, customer influence, renewal rate, Gainsight, CRM, AMs (Account Managers), team structure.______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJoin host Josh Schachter, Co-Founder & CEO of UpdateAI, as he sits down with Cait Keohane, the Chief Customer Officer of Airtable, to explore the art of scaling world-class post-sale experiences. Cait shares her incredible journey from being one of the early employees at Zendesk and helping grow the company into a multibillion-dollar powerhouse, to stepping into her new leadership role at Airtable. Together, they explore what it takes to build robust customer management systems from the ground up, the importance of listening directly to customers, and how organizations can balance high-touch service with operational efficiency.Timestamps00:00 – Preview, Meet Cait Keohane & Learn About Airtable01:30 – Cait's Journey at Zendesk03:15 – Building Customer Success and Account Management at Zendesk07:50 – Joining Airtable as CCO08:50 – First 90 Days at Airtable: Priorities and Execution13:10 – Feedback and Voice of Customer Mechanisms15:00 – Renewal Management and Risk Mitigation19:38 – Delivering Personalized Experiences at Scale21:50 – Platform Complexity and Change Management24:50 – The Role of MVP Users and Power Builders in Scaling26:51 – Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmDSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Cait Keohane: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitkeohane/👉 Connect with hostsJosh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠________________Keywords: How to keep your customers happy, customer success manager, customer support, customer success management, Customer Success Manager role, hiring tips for customer success, customer success metrics, Customer success strategies for SaaS companies, Building a customer-centric culture in tech, Scaling customer success teams effectively, Customer feedback integration in product strategy, Airtable's approach to customer success and retention, Airtable customer insights, Customer journey mapping, Product strategy feedback______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessWelcome back to Unchurned! In this very special annual tradition, host Josh Schachter, CEO of UpdateAI sits down with Nick Mehta, the ever-energetic CEO of Gainsight, for a deep dive into all things Pulse 2025 - Gainsight’s CS conference, which this year is bringing its signature blend of learning and community to Las Vegas. Josh and Nick reminisce about Pulse’s humble beginnings, reflect on the journey from a simple luncheon to a high-octane Vegas affair, and tease this year’s theme (wardrobe predictions included!).You’ll also get an exclusive inside look at Gainsight, with Nick sharing candid insights about new faces on the leadership team, the integration of exciting new products like Staircase, ModerateKit, and Skilljar, and how the company is weaving AI into both its offerings and internal processes. The conversation is equal parts fun and insightful, filled with plenty of laughs and a motivating message for customer success pros to embrace innovation and lean into the future.Timestamps0:00 - Preview & Introductions1:25 - Pulse Conference in Las Vegas8:36 - Reflections on New & Evolving Leadership 15:23 - Recent Innovations & Acquisitions24:10 - Operational Shifts and AI Integration30:12 - Looking Ahead & Closing Thoughts___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Nick Mehta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmehta👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessSarah Parker, SVP, Global Customer Success at BetterUp joins the hosts ⁠⁠Kristi Faltorusso⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jon Johnson⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠Josh Schachter⁠⁠. They discuss the need for a transition from high-touch to low-touch customer interactions and the mindset shift required for CSMs for a self-service approach.Topics Discussed Meet Sarah Parker & Learn about BetterUpHow coaching equips leaders to navigate challengesChallenges at BetterUpHigh-touch approach for customer success Challenges despite a high NPSServices offered by BetterUpMindset transition from a service provider to a partnerAugmenting CSMs & enabling customers as platform ownersHigh demand for low-touch models faces resistanceArticulating worth for maximizing impactCSMs are trained to be a superheroTransitioning from UiPath to BetterUp was personal___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://youtu.be/JprAz-o-dWkApple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guestSarah Parker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahkparker/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠_____________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessMichael Goetz, Vice President of Customer Success Strategy at GitHub, joins Josh Schachter, Co-Founder & CEO of UpdateAI, and Kristi Faltorusso, CCO at Client Success, for a candid and insightful conversation that no customer success (CS) professional will want to miss. They discuss GitHub's shift from a focus on "Customer Outcomes" to "Customer Success Strategy" and its impact on operations and goals. Goetz reveals their methods for identifying and tracking meaningful customer business outcomes at scale. The conversation delves into the practicalities of operationalizing outcome-driven work, navigating diverse customer needs, and maintaining engagement amidst rapid product innovation.Timestamps:0:00 - Preview & Intros1:30 - Intentionality Behind Role Titles at GitHub4:33 - Articulating Measurable, Business-Driven Customer Goals7:48 - Tracking and Measuring Progress Towards Outcome13:35 - Differentiation in Approach Across Customer Segments16:35 - Approaching and Managing Milestones Toward Larger Outcomes21:05 - Dynamics Between End Users & Economic Buyers23:41 - Managing Pace and Volume of Change (Especially with AI)28:20 - Organizational Structure of Michael’s Team35:00 - Creative Uses of AI Within the Organization___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Michael Goetz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpgoetz/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠_____________________________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

In this podcast episode, Josh Schachter interviews Srikrishnan Ganesan, founder, and CEO of Rocketlane, a customer onboarding platform. Sri discusses the origins of Rocketlane, including the community they built before launching the product, and the birth of Rocketlane. They also talk about the importance of collaboration and marketing in the SaaS industry. Sri emphasizes the importance of consistency in the customer journey, particularly during the onboarding phase, and how it can impact customer success and lead to better outcomes. They also discuss Rocketlane's approach to marketing and community building.___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Srikrishnan Ganesan : https://www.linkedin.com/in/srikrishnang/👉 Connect with hostJosh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great relationships with their customers. We work with early & growth stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJosh Schachter, Co-Founder & CEO of UpdateAI, sits down with Carly Van Kirk, Head of CS at AngelList. Carly pulls back the curtain on AngelList’s unique approach to supporting emerging and established GPs and shares her journey into this pivotal leadership role amidst rapid company growth and industry transformation. Join us as Carly shares how AngelList is reshaping customer segments, dealing with the challenges of scaling an increasingly complex platform, and balancing high-touch professional services with tech-driven solutions.Timestamps0:00 - Preview1:45 - Overview of AngelList2:35 - COVID-Era Growth & Rolling Fund at AngelList4:12 - Carly's Role, Team Structure & Customer Segmentation at AngelList9:30 - Hunting for a New Job13:20 - Carly’s Priorities in Her First 180 Days at AngelList14:45 - Key Challenges and Initiatives Identified14:45 - Automation, Tooling, and Workflow Inefficiencies22:43 - Understanding and Improving Time to Value24:24 - AI’s Current and Future Role in AngelList and CS27:36 - Customer Success as a Commercial Center___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Carly Van Kirk : https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlyvankirk/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ - the only Zoom virtual assistant for customer-facing teams.👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #business⁠In this heartfelt and deeply personal episode, hosts Jon Johnson, Kristi Faltorusso, and Josh Schachter step away from their usual customer success conversations to reflect on life’s heavier moments. The trio opens up about recent challenges—celebrating new beginnings, mourning profound losses, and navigating the ups and downs that come with both work and life.The episode weaves together stories of hope, growth, grief, and gratitude—reminding listeners that behind every professional journey lies a personal one.Timestamps0:00 – Preview, BS, & Intros3:05 – Jon’s New Job4:53 – Job Search & Layoffs7:20 – Advice for Job Seekers in CS10:05 – Josh’s Story of Personal Loss16:00 – Life Lessons & Reflections28:30 – Kristi on Recent Loss at Work (the passing of the CEO’s daughter at ClientSuccess)34:10 – Closing, Conclave & Final Thoughts___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Links Mentioned in the Episode- Listen to Jon's Music- Check out Michael Singer's Podcast👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ - the only Zoom virtual assistant for customer-facing teams.👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠______________________________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJon, Kristi, and Josh sit down with Mike Haylon, GM of AI at Asana, for a deep dive into AI’s transformative role in business. The episode kicks off with a nostalgic trip down memory lane, revisiting Josh and Mike’s childhood adventures, before pivoting to Asana’s groundbreaking work with AI Studio.Mike unveils how Asana’s no-code workflow builder is revolutionizing task management and reshaping customer interactions. The conversation explores AI integration challenges, redefined success metrics, and Asana’s go-to-market strategy—all delivered with humor and sharp insights.Timestamps0:00 – Preview, Memories & Introduction6:20 – Mike’s Role at Asana & AI Studio15:10 – Use Cases of AI Studio18:06 – AI’s Role in Workflows & Human Elevation22:16 – Challenges & Future of AI Adoption28:05 – How AI Simplifies Execution34:30 – Predictions on the Evolution of AI Tools___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Mike Haylon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhaylon/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ 👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJon Johnson and Josh Schachter sit down with Brett Queener, Managing Director at Bonfire Ventures, to explore the rapidly evolving landscape of software companies in the age of AI. Brett shares his thoughts on the future of SaaS, the importance of speed and innovation, and the critical role of product marketing.They dive into founders' challenges and anxieties in today’s "change economy," where software evolves at warp speed, and discuss what it takes to build a defensible business amidst ever-growing competition.Join us as Brett provides insights on how startups can thrive by truly solving customer problems and staying ahead in the AI-driven tech landscape.Timestamps:0:00 – Preview, Intros & BS2:22 – Bonfire & Brett’s Blog: Tales from The Bonfire6:55 – Predictions & Observations: AI’s Influence on SaaS13:07 – Running a Software Company Amid Rapid Change16:33 – Applying Jobs-to-be-Done Framework17:50 – Innovation Pace vs. Continual Adaptation24:45 – Product Innovation, Value, and Market Differentiation28:45 – Investor Perspective and Guidance for Startups36:38 – Evaluating Startups___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Brett Queener : https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettqueener/Brett's blog : https://queener.substack.com/p/the-change-economy👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ - the only Zoom virtual assistant for customer-facing teams.👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessIn this episode of the Unchurned podcast, we are joined by our dynamic duo of experts, James Sanders (AI Implementation Strategist) and Michelle Carter (Customer Success Innovation Lead). From automated call summaries and sentiment analysis to predictive analytics and personalized customer experiences, James and Michelle will guide us through the current trends and future possibilities of AI.They discuss the burgeoning interest in specialized AI tools for customer success and delve into various applications—such as conversation intelligence, chatbots, and predictive health scoring—that are reshaping the industry. By leveraging AI, CSMs can focus on building relationships and delivering value with their new AI copilots.Timestamps0:00 - Preview & Intros2:17 - AI and Customer Success3:11 - Call summaries and follow-up generation4:05 - Voice of the Customer (Sentiment Analysis)5:11 - Predictive Analytics for Churn and Upsell6:03 - Customer Health Scoring6:40 - Task Automation and Workflow Orchestration7:42 - Chatbots and Self-Service AI8:37 - Personalized Content and Recommendations10:52 - Sophisticated proactive retention alerts12:02 - Embedded copilots for AI assistance 13:03 - Multichannel customer orchestration15:45 - Solution Categories in AI for Customer Success19:39 - Glossary of Terms Related to AI___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ - the only Zoom virtual assistant for customer-facing teams.👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠________________Keywords: How to keep your customers happy, customer success manager, customer support, customer success management, Customer Success Manager role, customer success metrics, AI implementation strategist, Customer success innovation, Generative AI, Customer success roles, Software companies, Conversation intelligence tools, Call summaries, Predictive analytics for churn, Customer health scoring, Task automation, Risk analytics, Customer feedback, Sentiment AI, Generative AI for content,Large language models, Embeddings, Vector search, Fine tuning, Retrieval augmented generation, Proactive retention alerts, Multi-signal AI, Embedded co-pilots, Digital customer success ______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.

Caitlin Wood, Chief Customer Officer at ZeroFox, joins hosts ⁠⁠Kristi Faltorusso⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jon Johnson⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Josh Schachter⁠⁠. They discuss the intricacies of customer success in the cybersecurity industry, along with her unique insights into the challenges and triumphs of leading a customer success organization—especially in the realm of cybersecurity, where the ROI often means that nothing happens.Tune in as Caitlin uncovers how she approaches customer experience, the evolution of customer engagement models, and the balance between AI integration and the indispensable human element in achieving customer success.Timestamps0:00 - Preview, BS & Intros4:08 - Learn about ZeroFOX5:10 - Challenges in Proving ROI in Cybersecurity7:45 - Customer Engagement and Service Model10:57 - Lead Pass Process and CSQLs15:10 - Complexity and Simplicity in Incentives18:10 - Efforts to Mature Models and Remove Friction22:35 - Adaptation of Playbooks25:51 - Attitude, Aptitude, and Experience in Hiring30:56 - Integrating AI for Internal Teams & Tasks___________________________👉 Follow the podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@updateai9697Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3dfWXmD Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3KD3Ehl👉 Connect with the guest Caitlin Wood : https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinewood/👉 Connect with hostsJon Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/Kristi Faltorusso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiserrano/Josh Schachter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/👉 Sign up for ⁠UpdateAI⁠ - the only Zoom virtual assistant for customer-facing teams.👉 Be the first to know when a new episode of Unchurned is dropped. Sign up for our newsletter at ⁠https://blog.update.ai/⁠________________Keywords: How to keep your customers happy, customer success manager, customer support, customer success management, Customer Success Manager role, hiring tips for customer success, customer success metrics, Chief customer officer, Customer engagement, Account manager, Technical account managers, Customer experience, Playbooks, Onboarding, customer outcomes, Health scoring, Productivity tools, Work with customers______________________Unchurned is presented by UpdateAIAbout UpdateAIAt UpdateAI our mission is to empower CS teams to build great customer relationships. We work with early & growth-stage B2B SaaS companies to help them scale CS outcomes. Everything we do is devoted to removing the overwhelm of back-to-back customer meetings so that CSMs can focus on the bigger picture: building relationships.