The Forgotten ECE

Families may only see us at the edges of the day — at drop-off and pickup — but trust is built in everything that happens in between.In this episode, Jamie explores the often-invisible work of family partnership beyond face-to-face moments. From emails and newsletters to documentation, tone, and transparency, this conversation reframes communication as one of the most powerful tools educators have to build trust, advocate for their profession, and create a true sense of community.Rooted in How Does Learning Happen?, the CECE Code of Ethics, and relationship-based practice, this episode challenges educators to see communication not as an extra task — but as intentional professional practice.Because when families aren’t in the room, our words, documentation, and tone become the program.

Morning drop-off is more than a transition — it’s a threshold moment. It’s where children transition from home to community, where parents entrust them, and where educators subtly establish the emotional tone for the entire day.In this episode, Jamie explores the professional, emotional, and developmental importance of morning drop-off in before- and after-school programs. Drawing on attachment theory, co-regulation, and reflective practice, she reframes drop-off as one of the most powerful — and underestimated — moments in school-age care.Rather than focusing on perfection or routines alone, this episode centres presence, tone, and intentional connection — and how educators’ responses in the first minutes of the day shape children’s sense of safety, belonging, and readiness to engage.

Pickup time. Three minutes. Twenty backpacks. One educator is trying to hold connection, information, safety, and emotion all at once.In this episode, Jamie dives into one of the most universal — and underestimated — moments in before- and after-school care: the guardian pickup conversation.With genuine candour, warmth, and the wisdom of a seasoned school-age educator, Jamie explores what’s truly happening in that chaotic, sacred window at the end of the day. It’s not just signing children out or handing over reminders — it’s relationship-building in real time.Jamie breaks down: Why pickup feels so chaotic — and why it matters How micro-moments shape family trust and confidence The emotional labour educators quietly carry in those last minutes What guardians are actually hearing between the lines How to share concerns with compassion and professionalism The small communication shifts that turn chaos into connectionThis episode reminds educators that those quick end-of-day conversations are more than routine — they are the heartbeat of family engagement.Whether you’re a new educator learning the “pickup dance,” a seasoned supervisor supporting your team, or someone who’s ever ended a day absolutely spent, this episode will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and proud of the work you do.Because the truth is: Before- and after-school educators don’t just manage time — they build bridges between home and program, one 3-minute conversation at a time.

Split shifts are more than early mornings and late afternoons — they are emotional marathons.In Episode 12, Jamie brings voice to the invisible work of school-age educators who live in the “in-between” hours: the early starts, the long breaks no one understands, and the emotional balancing act required to show up twice a day with presence, patience, and heart.With honesty, humour, and a whole lot of compassion, Jamie explores the emotional labour behind split-shift work — the self-regulation, the empathy, the attunement, and the quiet resilience that never makes it onto a schedule.She unpacks what research says about co-regulation and attachment during transitions, reflects on the realities of caregiver fatigue, and validates the educators who feel overstretched yet continue to hold space for children with incredible care.This episode is a grounding reminder that school-age educators don’t just “cover hours” — they hold space, build belonging, and create emotional safety in the margins of the day.Whether you’re an educator, a supervisor, or someone who has ever felt unseen in your split-shift role, this episode will make you feel understood, valued, and profoundly proud of the work you do.

Compliance. Just hearing the word can make an educator’s shoulders tense — especially in the fast-paced, ever-changing world of before- and after-school care.In this episode, Jamie gets real about the emotional labour, pressure, and pride behind keeping programs compliant under the CCEYA — and why compliance isn’t just about checklists or binders. It’s about people.From navigating borrowed spaces and unpredictable transitions to leading teams with compassion instead of fear, Jamie reframes compliance as something deeply human — a reflection of care, not control.She reminds us that every policy has a heartbeat: ✅ Attendance means safety. ✅ Documentation means trust. ✅ Inspections mean accountability — and opportunity.This episode is a powerful reminder that we can meet every regulation and still keep our hearts in the work.Whether you’re an educator feeling the weight of expectations or a supervisor leading your team through licensing season, this one will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and proud of the professionalism that lives in every detail of your day.

In this special episode of The Forgotten ECE Podcast, I’m joined by two inspiring leaders in the early childhood education field: Carla Ward, host of The Everything ECE Podcast, and Julie Hansen, founder of The Inspired ECE.We dive deep into practical and respectful guidance strategies for school-age children, exploring:Common challenges and how to reframe themTools for building meaningful connections with kidsRealistic approaches to structure and expectationsA sneak peek into Carla and Julie’s exciting upcoming workshop on August 16thWhether you're an educator, program leader, or advocate, this conversation is packed with powerful takeaways you can use right away.✨ Connect with the Guests: 🔗 Carla Ward on Instagram: @elfoundations 🎧 Listen to Carla’s podcast: The Everything ECE Podcast 📸 Julie Hansen on Instagram: @inspired_ece🗓️ Register for the August 16th workshop: 👉 elfoundations.thrivecart.com/guidance-strategies🎧 Let’s keep showing up—because kids don’t stop growing when they turn six.

Time is short. Budgets are tight. But that doesn’t mean your programming has to feel flat or uninspired. In this episode, we dive into realistic, meaningful, and low-prep ideas that bring connection, joy, and purpose into your before and after school programs—without extra stress or spending.From spontaneous games and open-ended materials to quick-win transitions and group reflections, this episode is packed with practical takeaways you can use tomorrow, even if your day is already jammed. Because sometimes, the most magical moments happen when we do less—with intention.Perfect for:✔️ Educators stretched thin✔️ Teams working with limited resources✔️ Anyone who wants to make a difference without burning outYou’ll walk away with:Easy go-to experiences that require zero prepWays to shift mindset from “more stuff” to “more meaning”A challenge to reflect on what really makes an impact

In this episode of The Forgotten ECE, host Jamie Wagler explores how before and after school programs across different centres and agencies can move from isolation to collaboration. Discover how community-wide connections can reduce burnout, increase impact, and create more consistent, meaningful experiences for children and educators alike.Whether you’re in a school, a community space, or a rural centre, this episode offers practical strategies and inspiring ideas to help you build bridges—not silos.

What does before and after school care look like on Canada’s West Coast?In this special episode of The Forgotten ECE, we journey to British Columbia to hear from Cayley Burton, a dedicated educator leading a vibrant school-age program in her community. As part of our cross-country series, Beyond the Bell, Cayley sheds light on the structure, challenges, and stand-out successes of school-age care in B.C.From staffing ratios and provincial supports to the small, powerful moments that make this work meaningful, Cayley brings her lived experience to the forefront. Whether you're an ECE professional, policymaker, or advocate, this episode will deepen your understanding of how before and after school programs are shaped by place—and by the passionate people who make them thrive.💡 Discover what makes school-age care in B.C. unique. 💬 Hear real stories from the frontlines of extended-day learning. 🌱 Be inspired by Cayley’s vision for a more inclusive and supported future in child care.Cayley Burton is an Early Childhood Educator, advocate, researcher, writer, and consultant. Holding a Master of Education (MEd) in Early Childhood Education from the University of British Columbia (UBC), Cayley has collaborated with the Coalition of Child Care Advocates (CCCABC) and AutismBC on advancing public policy for child care and disability support systems that meet localized community needs. Cayley currently lives, works, and plays on the traditional, unceded territory of the Coast Salish Peoples in Richmond, BC, where she's worked in before/after school programs for the past 4 years. Cayley is honoured to be a guest on Miss Jamie's podcast!Want to reach out to Cayley?Email - ⁠cayleynburton@gmail.com⁠Facebook - Cay Burton LinkedIn - Cay Burton Bluesky - ⁠@caylburto.bsky.social⁠

In this heartfelt and practical episode, we sit down with a life coach who specializes in guiding moms through the complex world of parenting school-age children while prioritizing their own well-being. We explore the personal journey that led her to this work, the challenges modern moms face, and why self-care isn’t selfish—it’s essential.From shifting mindsets around guilt and self-care to modeling emotional resilience, our guest offers empowering insights and actionable strategies for staying grounded amid the chaos of family life. We also dive into the everyday struggles moms encounter—like school stress, friendship issues, and big emotions—and how to know when extra support is needed. Plus, we talk about the importance of building a village, setting boundaries, and how partners and extended family can play a vital role.Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed or just looking for a boost, this episode is a reminder that taking care of yourself is one of the best ways to take care of your kids.

In this episode, Jamie Wagler dives into the world of play—exploring how educators can move beyond basic free play to design innovative, intentional, and developmentally rich play experiences. From loose parts and STEAM integration to the importance of risk-taking and child-led exploration, this episode is packed with practical strategies and real-life insights that will spark fresh ideas for your program.Jamie also answers listener questions about overcoming boredom, introducing loose parts, and talking to parents about risky play. Whether you’re new to school-age programming or a seasoned pro, this episode will leave you inspired to elevate play in your space.

In this episode of The Forgotten ECE, we’re diving into one of the biggest challenges in before and after-school programs—helping children navigate big emotions. After a long school day, many kids arrive overstimulated, exhausted, or carrying unresolved feelings. So how can educators support them in a way that fosters emotional growth rather than frustration?Join me as I share practical strategies for both preventing emotional overwhelm and responding in the moment when big emotions arise. We’ll explore real-life scenarios—like after-school meltdowns, peer conflicts, and transition struggles—and discuss simple techniques like emotion check-ins, co-regulation strategies, and reflective practices.Whether you’re an educator, program leader, or someone passionate about supporting school-age children, this episode is packed with tools to help you create a calm, emotionally supportive environment. Tune in now!

🚨 NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🎙️✨What Do You Even Do All Day? The Invisibility of ECEs in Before & After School ProgramsBefore and after school educators hear it all the time: “Oh, you just babysit, right?” or “What do you even do all day?” 🤦‍♀️ The reality? We’re fostering relationships, supporting development, and creating meaningful play-based learning experiences—but too often, our work goes unnoticed.In this episode of The Forgotten ECE, I’m diving into the challenges of being an Early Childhood Educator in school-age programs, the misconceptions we face, and how we can advocate for the recognition we deserve.💡 If you’ve ever felt invisible in your role, this one’s for you. Let’s change the narrative together!🎧 Listen now: https://open.spotify.com/episode/16Nol7RL2yL6Dh6vg45SWY?si=1yLqXjOgSBqKw8z3RNAQww💬 Share your thoughts in the comments! Have you experienced this invisibility? Let’s talk. ⬇️ #TheForgottenECE #ECEVoices #Advocacy #BeforeAndAfterSchool #earlychildhoodeducation

Feeling burnt out? You’re not alone. In this uplifting episode of The Forgotten ECE podcast, we tackle the realities of burnout in before and after-school programs—and how to reignite the passion that brought you here in the first place.Special guest Anisha Angella, The Early Childhood Coach, joins us to share her expert insights on overcoming burnout, reconnecting with your purpose, and finding joy in your work again. Through practical strategies, inspiring stories, and the power of community, we explore how educators can stay motivated in this often-overlooked field.Whether you’re a seasoned educator or just starting out, this episode will leave you feeling empowered and ready to embrace the impact you make every day.Tune in and rediscover the spark! 🎙✨Anisha - The ECC = https://www.instagram.com/anisha.theecc?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

January can be a tough month for school-age programs, with children and educators feeling the effects of post-holiday fatigue, colder weather, and long school days. This episode explores strategies to reignite energy and engagement in your programs while supporting both staff and children during this transitional period.

In this episode, Jamie shines a spotlight on a critical yet often overlooked issue: the funding disparities in Ontario's school-age childcare programs. They unpack how inequitable funding impacts children, families, and educators, delving into the systemic barriers that perpetuate these challenges.The discussion highlights key differences between funding structures for early years programs and school-age care, revealing a persistent gap that undermines accessibility and quality. Guest speakers [insert guest names or roles, if applicable] bring their expertise and lived experiences to the table, sharing stories from the front lines of advocacy.Listeners will gain insight into:Why funding equity is essential for creating inclusive and high-quality school-age programs.The ripple effects of these before and after school programs closingStrategies for advocating at both the community and policy levels to demand systemic change.The episode closes with actionable takeaways for educators, parents, and allies who want to join the fight for fair funding.Call to Action:Whether you're an educator, parent, or policymaker, this episode equips you with the knowledge and tools to push for meaningful reform. Tune in to learn how you can contribute to ensuring equitable funding for all school-age programs in Ontario.

Join Jamie as she speaks with nine incredible podcasting educators in this roundtable discussion to explore the vital themes of mentorship, self-care, and advocacy. The conversation emphasizes the importance of play in maintaining creativity and passion in teaching while offering practical self-care tips and leadership insights. The podcasters share their experiences and highlight the need for proactive mentorship to bridge the gap between educational preparation and real classroom challenges. The podcast advocates for valuing early childhood educators and encourages collaboration to elevate the profession.ECEs included in this incredible episode:Erica Saccoccio - The Child Care Directors Chair Podcast Carla Ward - The Everything ECE PodcastAdva - Shaping Little MindsKayla - ECE, HonestlyMarcia - The Inspiring ECE PodcastMelysa Mei - Pre-K Spot TalkSusie Beghin - ECE Classroom PodcastKate and Carrie - Childcare Conversations

In this episode of The Forgotten ECE, we dive deep into the vital role that play serves in before and after school programs. Often overshadowed by academic pressures and structured routines, play is an essential component of child development, offering opportunities for creativity, social interaction, and emotional growth. We explore how these programs can foster a balanced environment where children can explore, learn, and build relationships outside of traditional classroom settings. Experts in early childhood education share insights on the unique challenges and opportunities in supporting play in extended care, and we discuss why it's crucial to prioritize play-based learning to create well-rounded, resilient children. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation on how we can better support our youngest learners during these crucial hours.

In this episode, I sit down with Amanda Lucier, RECE and cofounder of Sensory Sprouts, to dive into her inspiring journey in the Early Childhood Education field. From starting out as an ECE assistant to becoming a Supervisor, Amanda shares how Before and After School programs played a pivotal role in shaping her career.We discuss the unique challenges and opportunities in supporting school-age educators and how Amanda ensures they receive the same level of support as their preschool and toddler RECE counterparts. Whether you’re an aspiring supervisor, a school-age educator, or just curious about the field, this conversation is filled with valuable insights and inspiration.Tune in for a story of growth, dedication, and advocacy for all educators!

In this episode of "The Forgotten ECE with Miss Jamie," titled "Beyond the Bell: The Hidden Impact of Afterschool Professionals," we’re turning the spotlight on the crucial yet often overlooked role of before and afterschool programs. Our guest today is Erica Saccoccio from the Childcare Director's Chair podcast. Together, we’ll explore the significant impact these programs and their dedicated professionals have on children, despite frequently being overshadowed in discussions about quality education and care. We’ll delve into the challenges they face, including issues with funding, recognition, and quality rating systems, and discuss how we can advocate for more equitable support and opportunities for this vital sector.Guest Speaker: Erica SaccoccioErica is a visionary leader in Early Childhood Education, with a rich and impactful career that has spanned over two decades. Her passion for nurturing young minds began twenty-four years ago when she embarked on her educational journey by obtaining her Child Development Associate (CDA) credential. This foundational step laid the groundwork for her to make a significant impact in the field of childcare and education. Driven by her desire to make a difference, Erica pursued her Associate of Arts in Early Childhood Education, equipping her with the skills and knowledge needed to elevate the standards of childcare. Her thirst for learning and growth didn't stop there. Erica expanded her horizons by completing the prestigious 10k Small Business Entrepreneurship Program at the Community College of Rhode Island (CCRI), where she acquired invaluable insights into leadership and entrepreneurship. In 2021, she proudly graduated from Charter Oak State College with a Bachelor's degree in Early Childhood Leadership, further solidifying her expertise. Erica's commitment to excellence and innovation is evident in her work as a mentor and CDA advisor. She empowers her staff by sharing her wealth of experience and expertise in childcare management, fostering an environment of continuous growth and development. Her leadership style is characterized by her unwavering dedication to providing quality education and care, which has earned her the respect and admiration of her peers and colleagues.Throughout her illustrious career, Erica has received numerous accolades that celebrate her contributions to the field. In 2006, she was honored with the Rhode Island School Age Coalition Advocacy Award, recognizing her tireless efforts to advocate for children and families. Two years later, she received the SBA Women in Business Award, a testament to her entrepreneurial spirit and commitment to empowering women in the business world. Her outstanding achievements were further acknowledged in 2010 when she was named the Rhode Island Minority Small Business Person of the Year by the SBA.