PoliticIt Podcast

In this episode of the PoliticIt Podcast, we dive deep into the 2025 Utah Legislative session, exploring key legislation and the shifting political landscape with consultant and political advisor Dave Owen. From education reforms to public union dynamics, we dissect the implications of this session on Utah’s future. Welcome and Introduction Welcome back to our ongoing discussion about the developments in the 2025 Utah Legislative session. Today, we’re diving into the pivotal moments and legislative efforts that are shaping our state. With a focus on education and civic engagement, we have much to unpack. This session has been marked by significant bills, debates, and the need for a common understanding among our citizens. Reflections on the Legislative Session The 2025 session has been a whirlwind of activity, with various bills being introduced and debated. Each year, it seems we face new challenges, but this session has felt particularly charged. The atmosphere in the legislature has been one of urgency and importance. Many legislators have voiced their concerns over the perception of power dynamics in our state government. It’s crucial to recognize that while some legislation may seem routine, others carry the weight of our collective future. The discussions around these bills are not just about policy; they reflect our values and vision for Utah. The Center for Civic Thought Bill One of the standout pieces of legislation this session has been the Center for Civic Thought Bill. Its introduction has sparked essential conversations about the role of civic education in our society. This initiative aims to foster a deeper understanding of our democratic principles and history among students at Utah State University. Advertisement By emphasizing traditional liberal arts education, the bill seeks to address the gaps in knowledge that many graduates face today. It’s about instilling a sense of civic responsibility and awareness that seems to be missing in current educational models. Concerns About Common Language in Politics As we navigate this legislative landscape, a pressing concern has emerged: the lack of a common language in politics. This disconnect often leads to misunderstandings and a fractured discourse among constituents and legislators alike. It’s alarming that many citizens feel alienated from the political process, as if their voices are lost in the noise. Rebuilding this common ground is essential. The Center for Civic Thought Bill is a step in the right direction, providing a framework for discussions that can bridge divides. We need to foster an environment where all viewpoints can be heard and respected. The Importance of Foundational Education Foundational education is more crucial now than ever. The current educational model, which often resembles a buffet of courses, may leave students with a shallow understanding of vital concepts. The dispersion distribution model allows students to meet requirements without gaining substantive knowledge. By returning to foundational works and ideas that have shaped our nation, we can provide students with the tools they need to engage thoughtfully in society. This approach not only enhances critical thinking skills but also cultivates informed citizens who are ready to participate in democracy. Bipartisan Support for Educational Reforms Interestingly, the push for educational reform has garnered bipartisan support. Legislators from both sides of the aisle have recognized the necessity of addressing educational shortcomings. This unity is refreshing and indicates a shared commitment to improving the future of our students. For example, the conversations around the Center for Civic Thought Bill have seen participation from various political perspectives, demonstrating that when it comes to education, there is common ground to be found. This collaboration is essential for enacting meaningful change. The Role of General Education in Utah State General education plays a pivotal role in shaping the academic landscape at Utah State University. It’s about more than just fulfilling credit requirements; it’s about fostering a well-rounded educational experience. The current model often resembles a buffet, allowing students to pick and choose courses without a cohesive foundation. The dispersion distribution model has led to concerns that students can graduate without a substantial understanding of critical concepts. This is where the Center for Civic Thought Bill steps in. By advocating for a return to foundational works, the initiative aims to create a more robust educational framework that equips students with the knowledge necessary to engage effectively in civic life. The First Credential Initiative The First Credential Initiative has stirred debate among educators and legislators alike. This program emphasizes competency-based education, focusing on specific skills required for employment. While this approach has its merits, such as aligning education with workforce needs, it raises questions about the breadth of education offered.   Many argue that this model narrows the focus too much, prioritizing job preparation over critical thinking and liberal arts education. We must consider how to balance workforce training with the broader educational goals that foster engaged and informed citizens. Education should not just serve immediate job markets but also prepare students for thoughtful participation in society. Concerns Over Competency-Based Education Competency-based education is often seen as a solution to modern workforce demands, but it comes with significant concerns. It tends to emphasize specific job skills at the expense of a more comprehensive educational experience. Critics argue that this approach can lead to a workforce that is technically proficient but lacking in critical thinking and problem-solving skills. Moreover, there is a fear that such educational models could reinforce existing inequalities. Students who do not have access to the necessary resources may find themselves at a disadvantage. It’s crucial to ensure that while we prepare students for the workforce, we also provide them with the tools to think critically about their roles as citizens. The Complexity of Mail-In Voting Legislation This session has witnessed significant discussions surrounding mail-in voting legislation. The intent was to enhance security while maintaining accessibility, but the outcome has been a compromise that many find unsatisfactory. The complexities of ensuring security without disenfranchising voters pose a significant challenge. Many citizens appreciate the convenience of mail-in voting, allowing them to review their ballots and make informed decisions without the pressure of time constraints at polling places. However, balancing these preferences with security measures is an ongoing struggle. As we move forward, it’s essential to find solutions that respect both voter access and election integrity. The Public Union Bill: Expectations and Realities The Public Union Bill has sparked intense discussions about the role of unions in education and public service. While some unions, like the firefighters, have shown a willingness to compromise, others, particularly the teachers’ union, have been more resistant. This has created a challenging environment for legislators trying to navigate these complex dynamics. The perception of unions varies widely among the public. While many support the idea of unions, they often struggle with the specific actions of organizations like the UEA. The key to moving forward lies in effectively communicating the nuances of these discussions to the public, separating the interests of the union from those of individual educators. Perceptions of Power in the Legislature As the legislative session unfolded, a recurring theme emerged: the perception that the legislature is power-hungry. This narrative is troubling, especially when it undermines the legitimacy of elected representatives. The legislature is intended to be a voice for the people, yet the perception of overreach can alienate constituents. It’s essential for legislators to remain aware of this sentiment and actively work to dispel it. Engaging with constituents, listening to their concerns, and maintaining transparency can help bridge the gap between the legislature and the public. The perception of power dynamics must be addressed to foster trust and collaboration. The Role of the Supreme Court in Legislative Actions The Supreme Court plays a critical role in shaping the legislative landscape in Utah. Its decisions can either reinforce or challenge the actions taken by the legislature. This year, the court’s ruling on Amendment D sparked significant debate, with many feeling the decision was out of touch with the needs of the state. Understanding the implications of these rulings is essential for legislators. They must navigate the balance between enacting laws that reflect the will of the people and adhering to judicial interpretations that may differ. The perceived overreach of the legislature, coupled with judicial pushback, creates a complex environment that demands transparency and communication with constituents.   The Influence of External Forces on Local Politics External forces often exert considerable influence on local politics in Utah. Organizations with national agendas can sway public opinion and legislative priorities, complicating efforts to maintain a focus on local issues. These influences often come cloaked in the guise of grassroots movements but can carry hidden agendas that do not align with the interests of Utah residents. It’s crucial for legislators to remain vigilant against these external pressures. Engaging with local constituents and understanding their needs is vital to countering the narrative pushed by out-of-state interests. Building a strong, informed community base can help legislators withstand these influences and focus on what truly ma

Join Senator John Johnson as he welcomes Todd Weiler for an insightful discussion on key legislation shaping the 2025 session. Background and Education Born in Georgia and raised in the Chicago suburbs, Todd attended Brigham Young University (BYU), where he earned a business degree. He later pursued law at BYU’s J. Reuben Clark Law School, graduating cum laude in 1996. During law school, he was a member of the law review and was recognized in the Order of the Coif. Professional Career After working in Phoenix and Los Angeles for three years, Todd moved to Utah and built a legal career, specializing in business law, general litigation, and domestic issues. He has worked with several Salt Lake City law firms and currently practices at Christensen & Jensen. Additionally, he serves as an adjunct law professor. Public Service and Political Career Todd settled in Woods Cross in 1997 and soon became involved in public service. In 1999, he was elected to the city council, marking the start of his political journey. Over the years, he has led both the Davis County Republican Party and the Davis Chamber of Commerce. Since joining the Utah Senate in 2012, Todd has taken on key leadership roles. He serves as the Senate parliamentarian and chairs multiple committees, including: Senate Judiciary, Law Enforcement, and Criminal Justice Committee Veterans and Military Affairs Commission Senate Judicial Confirmation Committee Policy and Legislative Impact Todd is a vocal advocate for American capitalism, maintaining a critical stance on socialism and communism. He has also been a prominent figure in legislative efforts to regulate pornography, advocating for its classification as a public health crisis and supporting measures to implement internet filters. With over a decade in the Utah Senate, Todd Weiler continues to influence policy and legislation, shaping the state's legal and economic landscape.     #politicit #utahelections #utpol  

Join Senator John Johnson as he hosts Cristy Henshaw, Utah County Republican Party Chair, for an insightful discussion on key legislation shaping the 2025 session. I’m Cristy Henshaw, and I’m honored to serve as the Utah County Republican Party Chair. My roots run deep in Utah County—my family moved back just before I started fourth grade at Windsor Elementary, where the incredible Mrs. Anderson instilled in us a love for great works of art and timeless quotes. Her dedication to classical education proved invaluable—I later tested out of a college art history class thanks to the foundation she and other amazing Utah County teachers provided. I graduated from Orem High, played soccer at UVU, and plan to spend my free time exploring every hiking and cross-country skiing trail in this breathtaking place we all call home. Today, things feel anything but “normal”—and we all sense it. From local neighborhoods to national headlines, we’re confronted with ongoing crises, cultural battles, and an uncertain future. The fast-moving political landscape has divided many Republicans into two camps: those who feel overwhelmed and disengaged, and those ready to dig in and defend their values. But between these extremes, there is vital middle ground—and it’s up to the Utah County Republican Party to reclaim it. Our path forward isn’t found in adopting progressive narratives that claim our systems are broken. Instead, we must strengthen our caucus system, reignite enthusiasm for a party that upholds both compassion and personal responsibility, and clearly communicate a platform that fosters virtue, opportunity, and lasting societal progress. Let’s lead the way. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join Senator John Johnson as he hosts Corinne Johnson, president of Utah Parents United, for a discussion on key legislation in the 2025 session. Corinne Johnson is a seasoned policy advisor and nonprofit leader with a strong track record of shaping legislative outcomes through strategic lobbying, advocacy, and coalition-building. She specializes in navigating complex legislative processes at both state and local levels, fostering relationships with key stakeholders, and driving meaningful public policy initiatives. Her expertise includes education policy, government relations, lobbying, and community organizing. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join Senator John Johnson as he welcomes Utah State Representative Jake Sawyer from District 9, serving Weber County. From Jake, “Having grown up here in Weber County, I've seen how strong our community can be. From my school days at H. Guy Child Elementary and Bonneville High School to my first jobs at local stores, I've learned the value of hard work and giving back. In the past few years, we've achieved a lot together - raising more money, getting our committees back on track, and bringing inspiring speakers like Ben Carson to town. As I step into a new role representing us in the Utah House of Representatives, I'm committed to keeping up the momentum. Let's keep working together to stand up for conservative values and make a real difference for the future generations.” #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join Senator John Johnson as he welcomes Utah State Representative Katy Hall from District 11, serving Davis and Weber counties. In this discussion, Rep. Hall shares insights into her current legislative efforts on Capitol Hill. She serves on the Higher Education Appropriations Subcommittee, the House Health and Human Services Committee, and the House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Committee. Don't miss this engaging conversation about her proposed bills and their potential impact on Utah. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our host, Senator John Johnson, as he welcomes Chris Null, Chair of the Salt Lake City Republican Party, who is concluding his tenure after two successful terms. Chris Null has been a steadfast leader in the Salt Lake County Republican Party since 2012, championing the caucus and convention system as the most effective way to ensure true representation. As Chair for the past four years, he has spearheaded a technological transformation within the party, modernizing outreach, strengthening community engagement, and reinforcing election integrity. Under his leadership, the party has not only held its ground against Democratic opposition but has also secured key victories through strategic organization and principled governance. A dedicated advocate for Utah and Salt Lake County, Chris believes in uniting people around the foundational principles of the Republican Party platform—principles that promote faith, family, freedom, and fiscal responsibility. His vision is one of collaboration, where conservatives work together to build a stronger, more accountable government that truly serves the people. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Senator John Johnson welcomes Ogden City Police Chief Jake Sube, and Ogden City Fire Chief Mike Mathieu, together they discuss the recent fire in downtown Ogden and the arrest of a 16-year-old male. Ogden City Police Detectives worked tirelessly on this case and identified and arrested a suspect. We are thankful for our partnership with the Ogden City Fire Department and other Local and Federal partners who helped us get to this point. This investigation is ongoing and more details may be released at a later date. During a press conference Tuesday evening, Ogden Chief of Police Jake Sube announced that the investigation following Saturday’s fire has been ruled an arson. “Our investigation team has since determined the fire was intentionally set, a fact which renders the act the crime of arson,” he said. “Once that determination was made, the investigations team set out to identify an individual or individuals responsible.” He said this investigations team included members of the Ogden City Police Department; Ogden City Fire Department; the state fire marshal; the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF; the Utah Transit Authority Police Department; Weber County Crime Scene Investigation unit; and the Weber County Attorney’s Office. “Through their meticulous and relentless investigation efforts, a 16-year-old male was identified as the suspect,” Sube said. “Earlier today at approximately 12:50 p.m., the suspect was taken into custody without incident.” He said the boy is believed to have acted alone and is a resident of Roy but attends school in Ogden. The boy has been booked into the Weber Valley Youth Detention Center on three second-degree felony charges — arson, causing a catastrophe, and criminal mischief. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our host, Senator John Johnson, as he welcomes Jess L Anderson,  Utah’s Commissioner of Public Safety.   Jess L. Anderson was appointed as Utah’s Commissioner of Public Safety by Governor Gary R. Herbert in August 2018 and reappointed by Governor Spencer J. Cox in January 2021. As Commissioner, Anderson oversees the Utah Department of Public Safety (DPS), which includes the Utah Highway Patrol, State Bureau of Investigation, State Crime Lab, Statewide Information and Analysis Center, Bureau of Criminal Identification, State Fire Marshal’s Office, Division of Emergency Management, Emergency Communications Bureau, Peace Officer Standards and Training, Driver License Division, and Highway Safety Division. With more than 1,600 employees, including over 600 sworn state law enforcement officers, the DPS provides comprehensive statewide public safety services.   During the COVID-19 pandemic, Anderson served as the Incident Commander for Utah’s Pandemic Unified Command and continues to act as the Governor’s Homeland Security Advisor. He brings over 23 years of experience with the Department of Public Safety and has held various roles within the Utah Highway Patrol, including positions in patrol, bicycle and motor squads, the Special Emergency Response Team, DUI squad, and the governor's Executive Protection team. Anderson has risen through the ranks of DPS, holding key administrative and leadership roles throughout his career.   Anderson holds a Master’s degree in Criminal Justice from Weber State University and a Bachelor’s degree in Criminal and Social Justice from Ashford University. He is also a graduate of prestigious programs such as the FBI National Academy, FBI Command College, Northwestern University Police Staff and Command, and IACP Leadership in Police Organizations. From 2009 to 2016, he served on the Executive Board of the National Governor’s Security Association, including a term as President.   A native of Utah, Anderson cherishes the state's safe and high-quality lifestyle, which he enjoys with his wife and their five children.   #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our host, Senator John Johnson, as he welcomes his colleague and friend, Utah State Representative Kera Birkeland. Together, they discuss Kera's recent resignation from the House and the circumstances behind it.   Kera Birkeland brought integrity and accountability to the Utah House of Representatives. She displayed strength when faced with challenges and never hesitated to stand up for her conservative beliefs, all while remaining open-minded and easy to get along with. Kera's experiences as a small business owner and foster parent have given her first-hand knowledge of the government's unnecessary regulations and burdensome bureaucracy. She believes that conservative policies play a fundamental role in the success of Utah. Kera is a wife and mother to six, she works in her day job as a policy consultant for agriculture and is a high school football and basketball referee. Her time spent on the football field and basketball court is great practice for debates on the House floor.       #politicit #utahelections #utpol  

Join Utah State Senator John Johnson as he welcomes Dave Owen to the podcast. Together they discuss recent Supreme Court decisions, redistricting, and the upcoming 2024 election. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our co-host, Representative Ryan Wilcox, as he welcomes his colleague and friend, former Representative Jeremy Peterson. Together they discuss the recent election and other issues in the State of Utah and nationally.   Jeremy A. Peterson, a former Republican representative for Utah's District 9, now works as a real estate broker with Vesta Real Estate.   Join our co-host, Representative Ryan Wilcox, as he welcomes his friend and former colleague, Jeremy Peterson. Together, they delve into the recent election and discuss various state and national issues.   #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join Senator Johnson as he hosts Barry Short who is running for election for Lieutenant Governor of Utah.   He is on the ballot in the general election on November 5, 2024. The Libertarian Party primary for this office on June 25, 2024, was canceled.   #politics #UtahElections #utpol

Join Senator Johnson as he hosts Rep. Matt MacPherson, who is running for re-election in Utah’s House District 6.   A Message from Matt: "For over 20 years, West Valley City has been my home. As a small business owner and a parent of children raised and educated here, I care deeply about our community and want to see it thrive. I’m dedicated to seeing the West Side flourish!   I've devoted much of my time to supporting local programs, businesses, and charities here in West Valley. I serve on the oversight committee for the WVC Police Department and have been involved in the SLCoGOP Bylaws committee. I've also served as precinct chair and as a county and state delegate for many years.   I love connecting with people, and I would be delighted to meet with you, attend your event, or visit you at your home. Let’s talk about what’s important to you—your voice matters to me! Please reach out anytime; I’m here to listen."   #politics #UtahElections #utpol  

Join Senator John D. Johnson as he hosts Kimberly Fletcher, President of Moms for America, in a conversation about the challenges facing families today and the powerful role of mothers now and in the future.   Founded in Dayton, Ohio, in 2004, Moms for America® is a national, non-profit 501(c)(3) educational corporation rooted in the principles of liberty and virtue upon which our nation was founded, and focused on promoting these principles, values, and virtues in the home and family through the women and mothers of America. We are many faces from many places combining our talents, experience, and resources to support and encourage each other in the most important work we’ll ever do – raising and nurturing the future of America.   #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our host, Senator John D. Johnson, as he welcomes Cari Bartholomew and Brooke Stevens representing MOMS for America.   Founded in Dayton, Ohio, in 2004, Moms for America® is a national, non-profit 501(c)(3) educational corporation rooted in the principles of liberty and virtue upon which our nation was founded, and focused on promoting these principles, values, and virtues in the home and family through the women and mothers of America. We are many faces from many places combining our talents, experience, and resources to support and encourage each other in the most important work we’ll ever do – raising and nurturing the future of America.   #politicit #utahelections #utpol  

Join our host, Senator John D. Johnson, as he welcomes Utah State Representative Brady Brammer. Together they discuss recent Utah Supreme Court rulings concerning voting boundaries in the State of Utah, and his candidacy to succeed Mike Kenedy in the Utah State Senate.   Utah State Representative Brady Brammer Shares Insights on Recent Supreme Court Decisions Brady has unique TRAINING & EXPERIENCE to be our strongest representative in the legislature: As an attorney, Brady has many years of successfully representing cities, school districts, businesses, and individuals in governmental legal issues. As a BYU adjunct professor of ethics (MPA Program) and business law (Accounting Program), Brady has taught students about the laws governing ethical behavior in the sphere of public service, as well as those laws and accounting principles that lead to successful business. Brady served 5+ years on the Highland City Planning Commission dealing with local zoning & development issues. As a board member on The Great Outdoors Fund, Brady gave legal insight into protecting access to the great outdoors and enhancing recreation infrastructure. As a successful small business owner, Brady understands the growth and infrastructure challenges facing our community, as well as the importance of conservative fiscal policy. Educational Training: Juris Doctor & Master of Public Administration (BYU), B.A. in American Studies (BYU). #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our host, Senator John D. Johnson, as he welcomes Dan Peterson and Russell D. Richins to discuss their new film, 'Six Days in August'. The Prophet Joseph Smith is dead, killed by a mob. Enemies of the LDS Church think the church will die with Joseph. In fact that danger is a real possibility. The crisis is undeniable, and the saints in Nauvoo are in chaos. #politicit #utahelections #utpol #sixdaysinaugust

Join our host, Senator John D. Johnson, as he welcomes his close friend, Senator Chris Wilson, the current representative of Cache Valley. Chris has lived in Cache Valley his entire life and is the third-generation owner of Wilson Motor Company, a family business that has been strengthening the local economy from its downtown Logan location for more than 80 years. His family were among the early settlers of Cache Valley, and Chris has worked hard to carry on their legacy of integrity, hard work, and perseverance. He takes pride in applying these values both in his business and as a representative of District 2 in the State Senate, where he has served since his election in 2020. Family is at the heart of everything Chris does. He and his wife Kiersten share a blended family of ten children and twenty-one grandchildren. #politicit #utahelections #utpol

Join our host, Senator John D. Johnson, as he welcomes Ari Ioannides, candidate for Summit County Council.   Ari Ioannides is an eighteen-year resident of Summit County, known for his problem-solving skills through the use of technology and sustainable processes. As a successful IT entrepreneur, he has delivered world-class services to local governments and built effective teams.   Ari was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, as the eldest of three brothers. His father, Romilos (Roy) Ioannides, immigrated from Greece in 1953 to study at Georgia Tech, where he met Ari’s mother, Angela Chotas. Angela was deeply involved in their church, playing the organ and leading as the principal soloist. Roy received his master of education on an NSF scholarship and was a lifelong high school math teacher. Angela served on the Atlanta Public Schools Board of Education where she worked with board president Dr. Benjamin E. Mays to peacefully integrate schools. Growing up in the segregated South, Ari’s early education was in white-only schools. This changed in 1972 when desegregation was implemented in Atlanta Public Schools, introducing Ari to his first African-American teacher. This teacher was instrumental in helping him overcome dyslexia and foster a love for learning. Ari’s high school years at the diverse Grady High School were transformative.   There, he honed his skills in computer programming and became the youngest computer operator at Sears, setting the stage for his future in technology. Seeking a quieter, more grounded life for his family, Ari moved to Summit County in 2006. He has since been a resident on both the east and west sides of the county, now settling in Wanship with his wife, Ember where they share their four children. The family fully embraces the outdoor lifestyle that Summit County offers, from skiing and hiking to off-roading and horse riding. Their children have benefited from the diverse educational environments of both Park City and North Summit School districts, enriching their family’s connection to the community.   #politicit #utahelections #utpol