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The Teachers' Talkin' podcast is hosted by Dustin Tatroe and Ghazali Abdul Wahab. This podcast is for teachers, educators, parents, or anyone interested in education. We discuss all things education & teaching from innovative teaching methods to challenges to strategies and much much more. This is a discussion or round table based podcast where we will bring in educators from around the world to talk about a variety of education topics. We want this to be a place of inspiration, personal professional development, and a place where we can elevate education together. Let us know what topics you want us to discuss! New episodes every other Monday. Like and subscribe. Connect with us on LinkedIn.
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In this Teachers Talkin’ episode, hosts Dustin Tatroe and Ghazali Abdul Wahab continue their US–Singapore grading conversation by focusing on sustainable grading practices that reduce teacher burnout. Ghazali explains how grading load varies by subject, how large class sizes and detailed rubrics create feedback delays, and how Singapore’s system relies on frequent formative tracking (often numeric, in systems like SLS or spreadsheets) with seasonal spikes during weighted assessments. Dustin contrasts US expectations that “everything counts,” arguing gradebooks should prioritize independent demonstrations of mastery rather than soft skills like homework completion or timeliness, and he shares strategies including limiting graded items, using rubrics, chunking writing feedback during the drafting process, and allowing reassessment within a unit. Ghazali describes using an AI chatbot built on Poe with O-level rubrics and exemplars to provide immediate draft feedback while keeping a human-in-the-loop for final marking, and they also discuss late-work systems, motivation, and giving constructive feedback without discouraging students.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin Tatroe and Ghazali Abdul Wahab launch a two-part conversation on “grades that tell the truth,” focusing in Part 1 on accuracy—what grades should measure, why they often don’t, and how grading practices shape teacher workload and student motivation. They compare contexts in Singapore and the United States: Ghazali outlines Singapore’s high-stakes structure (PSLE with banded scoring, O/N Level exams, removal of midyear exams, and three weighted assessments plus a year-end exam that make up recorded grades), where most day-to-day work is formative and not entered into the gradebook. Dustin contrasts this with common U.S. practices where teachers frequently grade nearly everything, often required to post multiple grades per week, leading to 60+ grades per semester and significant grading volume. They discuss stress and equity issues tied to high-stakes exams and school prestige, including Singapore’s tuition industry and U.S. funding disparities across districts. The conversation emphasizes the value of clear rubrics, shared language, exemplars, and peer marking to reduce subjectivity and improve feedback. Dustin argues against grading homework and other practice behaviors, recommending that practice work receive feedback but not be recorded as grades, and that recorded grades focus on independent demonstrations of mastery. Ghazali reinforces a mindset shift away from believing formative practice must be graded to matter, advocating for feedback that supports learning and risk-taking. Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
In this episode, Dustin and Ghazali welcome Jennifer Hartman, an associate principal at Memorial Junior High in Lansing, Illinois, to discuss the critical importance of structured mentoring programs in education. Jennifer shares her unique journey from aspiring dentist to educational leader and her passion for supporting new educators. They dive into the development of effective mentoring strategies that not only improve teacher retention but also create lasting pipelines of leadership in schools. Jennifer highlights the importance of classroom management, personalized mentoring approaches, and the profound impact of mentors in her own career. Whether you're an educator or an administrator, this episode offers insightful and practical advice on fostering a supportive and growth-oriented environment for new teachers. Interested in being a guest? Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali dive into the crucial topic of teacher retention in this episode titled "Why Teachers Stay and Why They Leave." They address the guiding question: What keeps teachers in the classroom, and how do we make teaching sustainable without lowering expectations for students or educators? They discuss common misconceptions about teacher attrition, emphasizing issues beyond pay, such as professional autonomy and administrative support. Dustin and Gali also explore signs of teacher burnout, share personal experiences, and offer strategies to create a balanced and sustainable teaching environment. They highlight the importance of trust, autonomy, collegial support, and professional growth. This episode provides valuable insights for educators and school leaders aiming to enhance teacher retention and improve the overall educational environment.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali dive deep into the topic of cultural awareness and internationalization in education on this episode of Teachers Talking. Their guiding question: How can educators create meaningful connections across cultures locally, nationally, and globally, so students grow in empathy, understanding, and real-world readiness? They start by defining culture in a school context, discussing both visible and invisible layers, and the importance of students understanding that culture is something within them every day—shaped by their families, values, and lived experiences. They highlight strategies to help students see and respect cultural differences and overcome challenges such as language barriers and biases, while stressing that building cultural awareness should be a continuous, integrated effort in the classroom, not a standalone lesson. By fostering curiosity, empathy, and open communication, teachers can help students expand their cultural horizons and prepare for a globally connected world.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali are joined by Aditya Prakash, founder & CEO of SKIDOS Labs, to explore how playful design can turn “screen time” into learning time for our youngest learners. Their guiding question: How can beloved characters, adaptive game design, and thoughtful UX turn practice into joyful mastery for every child—without overstimulation?With SKIDOS focused on ages 3–7, Aditya shares why open-ended pretend play is the engine of engagement, how the team aligns early numeracy/literacy/SEL to global outcomes, and why parents are part of the loop from onboarding to progress dashboards. He explains accessibility choices guided by WCAG (simple color palettes, dyslexia-friendly fonts, minimal on-screen text, voice/visual prompts) and a unique “safe space” that kids can enter—or that auto-triggers after extended play—to regulate stimulation. Recognizable IP (e.g., The Smurfs) helps kids persist with tasks (like exploring instruments in a music room), while the product stays calm, inclusive, and developmentally appropriate.They also dig into SKIDOS’s use of AI: machine-learning personalization built from learner behavior data and AI to speed internal workflows—without exposing children directly to LLMs. Aditya touches on localization plans, parent-led SEL activities mapped to CASEL, availability across iOS/Android/Amazon/web (free to try, subscription for full access), and what it takes to keep curiosity at the center of early learning.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali get real about parent communication in Hard Conversations, Strong Partnerships—a practical episode on preventing most tense meetings before they ever happen. Their guiding question: How can teachers head off 80% of “hard” parent conferences—and turn the rest into collaborative problem-solving?They share concrete moves for the first weeks of school (positive check-ins, asking families’ contact preferences, and steady transparency around grades/expectations), plus systems that keep everyone aligned: student-led bi-weekly update emails, inviting parents into LMS/grade portals, work portfolios to make progress visible, and simple co-created trackers (from blue-book notes to assignment checklists) to reduce repeat issues. When emotions run high, they model de-escalation—listen fully, name what you hear, avoid blame, and pivot to “what we can do” language—then repair the relationship so the focus returns to the child’s success.You’ll walk away with ready-to-use scripts, documentation ideas, and a calmer approach to tough moments that builds trust—with families and with colleagues.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali flip roles in this episode as Ghazali joins as the guest to talk about a question he’s been helping educators tackle around the world: How can we harness AI to enhance instruction while protecting the human connection that makes great teaching possible?Drawing on two years of classroom work in Singapore, Ghazali shares concrete examples of AI’s real impact on students—from custom chatbots that helped his class prepare for high-stakes interviews and resumes, to a writing process where students plan and draft first, then use AI mind maps and feedback to refine their thinking instead of letting the tool do the work for them. Along the way, he surfaces a central idea: used well, AI can actually deepen relationships, because it frees time and creates more success moments for students.They also unpack teacher-facing AI—tools that speed up planning, feedback, and resource creation—alongside the risks of over-reliance, security concerns, and students starting to “sound like ChatGPT.” Rather than mastering everything, Ghazali argues for a mindset shift: start small, learn one tool well, and let AI act as a multiplier while you stay firmly in charge of the pedagogy.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali are joined by Mirriam Chintu to explore how something as simple as “try again” can transform how students see themselves as learners. Their guiding question: How can positive reinforcement reshape the way students experience learning and behavior in school?Drawing on more than 20 years of teaching experience from grades 3–7 and now junior secondary English in Zambia, Mirriam shares how students’ home lives, histories, and daily struggles show up in the classroom—and why that context matters when they make mistakes. She reflects on the damage caused by shame, harsh responses, and labeling, and contrasts that with classrooms grounded in encouragement, patience, and belief. Through stories of wrong answers turned into growth moments, she shows how simple shifts in language and tone can build confidence instead of fear.The conversation also turns toward teacher growth and school culture. Mirriam talks about how her own mindset has changed over time, how positive reinforcement has reshaped her identity as an educator, and what it would mean for entire schools—leaders included—to operate from a place of trust and care rather than punishment. As a teacher, school planner, and recent graduate with a master’s in education administration and management, she brings both classroom wisdom and a systems lens to what real encouragement can do.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali are joined by Theresa McSweeney to unpack what blended and hybrid learning really look like when they work—beyond the buzzwords. Their guiding question: How can schools move from tools-first thinking to student-centered, teacher-powered models of learning?With experience across K–6 and a current role as a digital support specialist, Theresa shares how teaching kindergarten online during the pandemic reshaped her practice and why she champions teacher autonomy, clear definitions, and safety-first digital citizenship. She traces her path from classroom teacher to STEM builder and coach, and explains how individual attention, creativity, and a positive risk-taking mindset fueled her transition.The conversation covers what distinguishes blended from hybrid learning, plus classroom-tested examples—from Canva-powered “trout in the classroom” and Padlet-based science/social studies hubs to Minecraft Education for connection and collaboration. Theresa makes the case for building AI use on top of strong digital citizenship; explores the 80/20 and Boise State’s 10/80/10 approaches; and shares practical moves like using GPTs to critique instructional videos, organizing with Notebook LM, and choosing tools that return real value on teacher time.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali are joined by Priya Aavla to unpack what truly supporting at-risk students looks like—beyond the buzzwords. Their guiding question: How can higher education shift from reacting to student struggles to creating proactive systems of support?With over 16 years of experience working with students, faculty, and administrators, Priya brings a clear-eyed view of where gaps exist—and how institutions can close them. She shares what she’s learned from her work in student success, and makes the case that relationship-building and clear communication matter just as much as academic support.The conversation covers early alerts, intrusive advising, and how to balance accountability with compassion. Priya also reflects on the systemic challenges that create barriers for both students and the professionals trying to help them—and offers practical moves for faculty and staff who want to make a difference.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali are joined by Judy Raphalalane to dig into the essential—but often overlooked—role of mentorship in schools. Their guiding question: How can mentorship programs strengthen both new and experienced teachers, and help build healthier school cultures?After 11 years in the private sector, Judy entered public education and was immediately struck by the culture shift. From the absence of formal orientation to a lack of defined roles and clear communication, she shares the challenges she faced and how mentorship could have made all the difference. Judy brings not just critique but a vision—one where experienced educators actively walk alongside new teachers, developing them as both professionals and people.The conversation expands from onboarding to culture-building, naming mentorship as a key lever for teacher retention, growth, and mental health. Judy makes the case that mentorship isn’t about climbing the ladder—it’s about building community, modeling integrity, and creating a workplace where everyone can thrive.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
Dustin and Ghazali sit down with Dr. Kevin Jennings to rethink what rigor actually looks like in classrooms—and why the old definitions no longer serve students or teachers. Their guiding question: How can we reimagine rigor in ways that deepen learning—without crushing students or teachers?Drawing from 15 years of classroom experience across the U.S., South Korea, and Switzerland, Kevin brings a global lens to this conversation. He shares how game-based learning, authentic assessments, and curiosity-driven design can create classrooms that are both rigorous and joyful. Together, they question how rigor became a synonym for compliance and explore how challenge, not grind, should define academic success.From gamified assessments and playful research tasks to centering student thinking in curriculum design, the conversation is packed with classroom-ready strategies and perspective shifts teachers can apply right away. Kevin also reflects on how teachers can protect their creativity and agency—even in systems that often prioritize control over curiosity.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
In the Season 3 premiere, Dustin and Ghazali dig into what it really takes to start the school year strong—beyond bulletin boards and icebreakers. They surface the real pressures of Week 1 and why mindset matters, then ground the conversation in practical moves teachers can use tomorrow. Their guiding question: How can educators begin the year in ways that build lasting routines, relationships, and resilience—for students and for ourselves?Through personal stories and classroom-tested strategies, the hosts show how to turn early weeks into durable culture. They unpack CCC—clear, consistent, connected—classroom management; doorway greetings that lead straight into a purposeful Do Now; “what-to-do” directions; and naming discussion norms so every voice is heard. They also tackle the early-semester adrenaline crash and unrealistic pacing, offering a sustainable plan: build a one-week buffer with two-week planning, protect weekends, and reflect regularly—especially on the wins.Finally, Dustin and Ghazali share the advice they’d give their first-year selves: teach and practice routines like content, give yourself grace when lessons flop, and remember that students don’t need you perfect—they need you present. Two mantras to carry into Week 1: “You can’t pour from an empty cup,” and “Reflect on what went well.”Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights—no need to be an “expert.” Tell us what you’d like to talk about here: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
In the season 2 finale, Dustin and Ghazali reflect on the journey of Teachers Talkin’, what they’ve learned, and how podcasting has become a powerful pedagogical tool. They revisit the podcast’s origin, the connections they’ve built, and the stories that have shaped the show. Their guiding question: What role can storytelling and podcasting play in building community and transforming education?Dustin and Ghazali share candid reflections on building a global educator network, how their own professional learning has evolved, and how podcasting has deepened their understanding of teacher-administrator relationships. They explore how podcasting is not only a medium for sharing voices but also a dynamic form of project-based learning that develops student agency, communication, and collaboration.They highlight listener feedback, practical applications of podcasting in the classroom, and favorite moments from season 2—including insights on AI, hybrid learning, outdoor education, and sustaining balance in teaching. Finally, they look ahead to season 3, set to launch this fall, and extend an open invitation to passionate educators ready to share their stories.Interested in joining us on the podcast? We’re always looking for passionate educators and school leaders to share their insights. You don’t need to be an expert—just someone who cares deeply about teaching and learning. Fill out the form here to let us know what you'd like to talk about: https://forms.gle/RCeUFhmvLxY1nRwU9
In this special podcast swap episode, we're sharing an episode from the Modern Classrooms Project Podcast—a show hosted by Toni Rose and Zach that explores instructional practice, classroom tech, student advocacy, and more through the lens of the Modern Classrooms instructional model: blended, self-paced, and mastery-based learning. Guests include classroom teachers, MCP mentors, school leaders, and students who’ve experienced the model firsthand.In this episode, Toni Rose is joined by MCP mentor Cassandra Burdette to dive into the topic of student engagement—especially how to keep students connected and learning even when they’re absent. Cassandra shares thoughtful strategies for maintaining consistency, pacing, and support, regardless of students’ physical presence in the classroom.We hope you enjoy this conversation and check out more from the Modern Classrooms Project Podcast! Learn more about the Modern Classrooms model at modernclassrooms.org.We are always looking for passionate members of the education world to join us and talk about tips and strategies to support teachers! You don’t have to be any kind of expert—just someone who is passionate about education and educators. If that’s you, fill out this form to let us know what you’d like to discuss and choose a time to record with us: https://forms.gle/C21egnAUCw25gmZTA
Dustin and Ghazali ask the question "what does it take to lead lasting, ethical, and strategic school transformation from any seat in the building?" to Danielle Craig.Danielle is an experienced school leader with a track record of significant and effective school improvement. She is a level 7 qualified coach and now works for herself and in schools as an executive coach and educational consultant. She is passionate about developing people, leadership, and workplace culture and has expertise in strategic leadership, curriculum development, and teaching and learning. She understands the challenges leaders face and how the right support can unlock their full potential. If you'd like to more or to get in touch, please visit her LinkedIn page: www.linkedin.com/in/dccoachingandconsultancyWe’re always looking for passionate educators who want to share their stories and strategies. You don’t have to be an expert—just someone who cares about teachers. 🎤 Want to join us on a future episode? Fill this out: https://forms.gle/C21egnAUCw25gmZTA
Burnout is real—and for educators, it often creeps in quietly until it's too loud to ignore. In this episode, Ghazali and Dustin dive into real talk about how teachers can reclaim their time, protect their peace, and set boundaries that stick.🎙️ Our guiding question: How can educators create and sustain boundaries that support both their well-being and professional impact?Together, they share lived experiences and practical strategies that teachers and leaders can apply immediately—without guilt. Topics include early burnout warning signs, how to reset when boundaries slip, and why systemic support matters just as much as self-care.📥 Download the free Balanced Educator Workbook Ready to take action? Start building a healthier work-life balance today with our downloadable workbook: https://the-teacher-tutor.kit.com/ecefe25ac3🔍 In this episode:Recognizing early signs of burnout before they escalatePractical strategies for setting personal and professional boundariesThe importance of protecting your planning periodWeekly planning tips that reduce Sunday anxietyHow school leaders can model boundary-settingWhy collaboration and accountability matterAddressing the systemic side of burnout: policies, workloads, and leadership cultureReframing teacher value beyond hours workedWe’re always looking for passionate educators who want to share their stories and strategies. You don’t have to be an expert—just someone who cares about teachers. 🎤 Want to join us on a future episode? Fill this out: https://forms.gle/C21egnAUCw25gmZTA
In this episode, Dustin and Ghazali sit down with Dr. Aditya Nagrath, founder of Elephant Learning Mathematics Academy, to explore the roots of math anxiety and how a gamified, mindset-shifting approach can help students regain confidence and mastery in math.Our guiding question: How can we reframe math education to overcome anxiety and help all students succeed?Dr. Aditya Nagrath (he/him) is a PhD in Mathematics & Computer Science, seasoned software engineer, and founder of Elephant Learning Mathematics Academy. With over 30 years in the tech industry—ranging from atomic clocks to mobile apps—Dr. Nagrath developed a platform that helps students learn years of math in just a few months with only 10 minutes a day, 3 times per week. His work centers around using in-house algorithms, gamification, and the “elephant age” metric to track and support student growth.During the conversation, Dr. Nagrath shares:Why math anxiety develops in students and how to identify itHow gamification and mindset shifts can create lasting changeThe power of framing math as a language instead of just proceduresHow the “elephant age” metric provides clear, visual progress for students and familiesActionable advice for educators and parents to support math learnersWe also touch on Dr. Nagrath’s book, Treating Math Anxiety, and how it complements Elephant Learning’s platform and coaching programs.👉 Interested in learning more? Visit elephantlearning.com to explore the platform and grab a copy of the book.Want to be on the show? We’re always looking for passionate educators and advocates to join us! You don’t need to be an expert—just someone who cares about education and wants to share your perspective. Fill out the form here: https://forms.gle/C21egnAUCw25gmZTA
Dustin and Ghazali sit down with Tom Kaster, founder of The Datafied Classroom, to explore how teachers can unlock the power of classroom data without becoming data scientists. They dive into practical tools, strategies, and mindset shifts that make data more usable and less overwhelming—ultimately helping educators better support student learning.Tom was a secondary mathematics teacher for nearly 20 years, teaching on five continents and in seven countries. His global experience led him to launch The Datafied Classroom, a company focused on transforming student and classroom data into visual, actionable insights for teachers and school leaders.In this episode, Tom breaks down why combining quantitative and qualitative data matters, how to avoid data overload, and which tools (like Looker Studio and spreadsheets) can help teachers visualize student progress. He also shares ideas for making data less intimidating, how administrators can better support teachers, and why we should be cautious (but curious!) about using AI in education.Whether you’re just starting out with digital gradebooks or looking to make smarter instructional decisions, this episode offers practical takeaways for every educator ready to make data more meaningful.Connect with Tom:Website: https://www.datafiedclassroom.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DatafiedClassroom Email: tom.kaster@datafiedclassroom.comWant to Be a Guest? We are always looking for passionate educators to join us and share insights, tips, and strategies to support teachers! You don’t have to be an expert—just someone who loves education. If that’s you, fill out this form to let us know what you’d like to discuss and choose a time to record with us: https://forms.gle/C21egnAUCw25gmZTA























