The Discomfort Zone

You might know Dane Jackson as that guy in the pink boat, the G.O.A.T. of Whitewater, or the paddler who somehow manages to throw tricks off of rarely run Class V drops. But in this episode, we go deeper — into what really drives his courage, how he navigates fear, and why fun might just be the ultimate superpower. Dane opens up about: 🌊 What “comfort zone” really means to him — and how he lives right on the edge of it 🧠 How fear actually keeps him safe (and why “no fear” is a myth) 💪 The mental and physical prep behind big waterfalls and world championships 🕊 Why failure isn’t the opposite of success — it’s part of the flow ❤️ How joy, curiosity, and community fuel his drive more than competition ever could Through stories of big water, mindset mastery, and pure love for the sport, Dane reminds us that courage doesn’t mean the absence of fear — it means showing up anyway. 💡 Why Listen If you’ve ever looked at someone fearless on the water and thought, “I could never do that,” this episode is for you. Dane pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to trust yourself in the moment, stay calm when things go sideways, and find joy — not pressure — in the pursuit of growth. You’ll walk away with: 🔥 A new way to use fear as fuel — not a stop sign 🌬 Tools for grounding yourself in presence when challenges arise 🌊 The reminder that courage comes from preparation, not perfection 😄 Inspiration to bring more fun, play, and joy back into your paddling — and your life 🎙️ Listen now to paddle past fear, find your flow, and fall back in love with the process — on the river and in life.  

🚀 From fighter jets to river rapids, this week’s episode of The Discomfort Zone takes you on a journey of resilience, courage, and service. Anna sits down with Khalid Kure — U.S. Air Force veteran, father of five, and leader of Team River Runner Columbia, SC — who shares how kayaking became a powerful tool for healing, community, and transformation. Khalid opens up about anxiety, fear, and facing the river with shaky legs (literally!), and how leaning into those moments of discomfort helped him level up as both a paddler and a mentor for other veterans. His passion for service, family, and empowering others shines through in every story — from practicing kayak rolls with a broom in Germany to teaching his kids the joy of the river. 🌊 Whether you’re a paddler, a veteran, or simply someone navigating your own discomfort zone, this conversation is packed with wisdom, humor, and heart. ✨ Why Listen? Hear how Khalid transformed fear into confidence and leadership — on the river and in life Discover the power of visualization, community, and “finishing strong” Learn why camaraderie on the water feels so much like camaraderie in the military Get inspired by Khalid’s mental toolbox for facing rapids, challenges, and life transitions Be reminded that you’re never alone — and that support is often closer than you think 🎧 Tune in for a story of courage, service, and the healing power of rivers.

What if discomfort wasn’t something to avoid, but an opportunity to grow? 🌱 In this episode, I sit down with Mardae Weaver — athlete, trainer, healer, and creator of Nowhere Solutions holistic retreat center in Nashville. Mardae’s path has taken him from sports and fitness to Reiki, prison work, and childhood behavioral support. Along the way, he’s faced profound moments of discomfort, from life-threatening encounters to deep personal challenges — and he’s discovered how leaning into those moments creates wisdom, empathy, and transformation. 💫 We talk about: ✨ Why Mardae sees discomfort as opportunity, not pain 🧘 His MISRED framework for self-investment (Mental, Spiritual, Rest, Exercise, Diet) 🔄 Parallels between children on the spectrum and men in maximum security prison 🌿 The healing power of nature and gratitude 🔥 Stories of resilience, balance, and choosing to evolve It’s a conversation about strength, flow, and what it means to reconnect to our deepest core — body, mind, and spirit. 🔥 Listen now and learn how to transform challenge into growth

In paddling and in life, nothing is wasted — every stroke counts, and every experience is money in the bank moving you toward your goal. In this episode of The Discomfort Zone Podcast, Anna Levesque sits down with longtime paddler, coach, and storyteller Anna Bruno — a six-time member of the USA Freestyle Team and current Marketing Communications Manager at NRS. From pre-competition nerves that literally send her running for the bushes, to redefining her relationship with ego and identity in paddling, Anna Bruno shares the raw and relatable side of navigating discomfort. Together, Anna and Anna dive into: 🤢 Anticipatory fear — why the waiting is often harder than the rapid itself 🏆 Ego and expectations — how comparison can both drive and derail us 🌊 Community over competition — why connection matters more than results 💰 Money in the bank — why every step, even failure, builds toward future success 💡 Lessons from rejection — building resilience through vulnerability 🧘‍♀️ The wisdom of yoga and self-awareness in paddling and beyond 💭 Why Listen If you’ve ever felt held back by nerves, struggled with self-doubt, or questioned your path in paddling or life, this conversation will feel like a breath of fresh river air. Anna Bruno’s down-to-earth wisdom invites you to step past fear, laugh at the ego, and discover the joy of your own path. 👉 Tune in and discover how to embrace discomfort, find your flow, and remember why you fell in love with paddling in the first place.

What does it mean to honor the voice inside you that says “Not today”—even when your skills say yes? In this conversation, Brett Mayer, lifelong educator, athlete, and Policy Director at the American Canoe Association, joins Anna to explore how discomfort shows up on the river, in public speaking, and in stewardship. Together, they unpack identity, ego, and the courage to choose connection over conquest. ✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode 🌊 Why discomfort on the river isn’t always about skill — sometimes it’s about intuition 🧠 How to separate fact from story and keep anxiety from spiraling 💪 The practice of saying “It’s a no today” and why it can save you from injury or burnout 🌍 Why stewardship work matters for paddlers — and how to get involved 💡 Why Listen If you’ve ever felt pressure to prove yourself, whether in a rapid or in front of an intimidating audience, this episode will remind you that true courage is about presence, patience, and self-trust. You’ll hear real stories of walking away, choosing differently, and finding growth not just in big drops but in everyday choices. 🎧 Hit play and discover how leaning into discomfort, protecting the rivers we love, and finding your flow can transform not just your paddling, but your whole life.

Ever feel like your inner critic has you stuck in a recirculating hole? 🙋‍♀️ Same here. In this solo episode, I share the 5 steps to stop negative self-talk — the exact ones I use when my own mind starts spiraling - which it has been doing recently on my back-healing journey. Here’s what you’ll learn: ✨ Get curious about your inner dialogue 🛑 Interrupt the negative loop 🌊 Replace it with affirmations + embodied feelings 📒 Gather evidence of your progress 🔄 Keep practicing — it’s a lifelong river journey Think of it like paddling out of a sticky hydraulic: awareness, direction, and practice set you free. 💡 Why listen? Because your self-talk shapes how you show up — on the river and in life. If you’re ready to stop trashing yourself, paddle toward confidence, and feel lighter in your body and mind, this episode is for you. 🎧 Hit play now and listen to the full episode — your next breakthrough starts here.

What does it mean to reconnect with your river, your culture, and your courage — all through the power of kayaking? In this episode of The Discomfort Zone, I sit down with Ruby Williams, a Quartz Valley tribal member and Kuduk person raised along the banks of the Klamath River in Happy Camp, California. Ruby’s paddling journey began in 2022 with Paddle Tribal Waters, and has since taken her from the first full descent of the 310-mile Klamath, to training in Chile, Canada, and Africa. Ruby shares how kayaking has transformed her relationship with fear, taught her the power of choosing her own challenges, and deepened her connection to community, leadership, and her ancestral river. 💡 In this episode, you’ll hear Ruby’s reflections on: 🌊 Running the full 310-mile descent of the Klamath River 💪 Learning that courage doesn’t mean never being scared 🧠 The difference between “good” and “bad” discomfort 🤝 How supportive mentors and crew make all the difference 🔥 Finding her voice as a young Indigenous leader 🌍 Why rivers are more than water — they’re culture, protest, and connection If you’ve ever wondered how paddling can shape identity, courage, and connection far beyond the rapids — this conversation will inspire you. 🎧 Listen now to hear Ruby’s story of courage, culture, and flow.

What if the mistake you’re dreading is the very thing that sharpens your line? In this conversation, I sit down with Deborah Kane—founder of Rally Crew, a new “online eddy” for whitewater paddlers—to talk about launching big ideas, running big rapids, and staying human when the outcome isn’t guaranteed. From walking away from months of work to the power of one person saying “I’d bet on you,” Deborah offers an honest, practical playbook for courage and connection. Why listen 🧭 Discomfort as a compass: Turn “I don’t know if this will work” into forward movement. 👥 Crew that’s truly invested: What supportive looks like (beyond “just follow me”). 🧪 Mistakes = momentum: The Rally Crew pivot—and why the “wrong turn” made the final product stronger. 💪 Confidence you can practice: Collect evidence for your self-belief and ask for help (yes, that’s a skill). 🎛️ Control the controllables: Manage variables, then—when it’s time—be all in. 🌊 Paddling parallels that land: Hard moves in easy water, relationship with the river, and resilience in real life. Available wherever you get your podcasts!

What does it take to fall in love with kayaking for life—not just for the next big rapid? In this episode, I sit down with Ottawa River local and Head of School at World Class Academy, Kalob Grady, to talk about the evolution of freestyle, the joy of paddling for fun, and the mindset shifts that keep you in the sport for decades. We dive into: 🌊 Why the “middle ground” of freestyle fun matters for skill and stoke 🧠 How to build a growth mindset and embrace failure in low-consequence environments 💛 The power of community, mentorship, and connection over ego 🎯 Knowing when to push your limits—and when to walk away ✈️ Why putting yourself in the discomfort zone prepares you for life on and off the river Whether you’re chasing waves, running creeks, or just want to paddle well into your 80s (yes, we talk about that goal!), Kalob’s insights will inspire you to reconnect with what makes kayaking—and life—fun.

Ten weeks after a herniated disc sidelined me, I’m finally sitting at the mic to share my biggest recovery wins—and the hard lessons I wish I’d learned sooner. Here’s what’s inside: ✨ How my ego delayed my healing (and how yours might too) 🚣‍♀️ Why kayaking + heavy lifting can be a dangerous duo for your low back 🩻 The MRI that changed everything—and why I wish I’d gotten it sooner 🧘‍♀️ The surprising mind-body practices speeding up my recovery 🌿 Barefoot walks, yoga nidra, and the healing magic of slowing down If you’ve ever pushed through pain, ignored warning signs, or let “I’ll be fine” turn into months of recovery, this episode might just save you from making the same mistakes.

In this episode I’m joined by the co-founders of the nonprofit Bright Shadow, Chris Gragtmans, accomplished whitewater kayaker, and Somerville Johnston, licensed professional counselor. Bright Shadow creates intentional spaces for community healing and reconnection for those grieving losses to and of the natural world — a topic that’s often overlooked in high-performance communities. Together, they share how Bright Shadow came to be and why they believe it's important to acknowledge the personal impact of loss in outdoor and paddling spaces. ✨ You’ll hear: 💔 Why grief is relevant in outdoor and paddling communities 🌲 How Bright Shadow supports those navigating loss 🧘 Practical somatic and peer-based approaches to healing 🎧 Reflections on how vulnerability can strengthen—not weaken—our experience as athletes and leaders If you’ve ever struggled with how to support yourself or others through loss in the context of outdoor adventure, this episode offers insight, tools, and perspective. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

What happens when a paddling pioneer shares decades of quiet wisdom on business, life, and the river? You lean in and listen. This week I sit down with Joe Pulliam—whitewater legend, founder of Dagger Kayaks, and one of the most thoughtful minds in the paddlesports world. From building his first boats in the 1960s for friends, to helping shape some of the most respected brands in the industry, Joe’s story is rooted in passion, purpose, and humility. We explore: 🌊 The heart and grit behind building a brand that changed the sport 🛶 What’s happening in the paddling industry today 🧠 Lessons from 50+ years on the river and in business 💬 Unexpected turns and timeless wisdom If you're drawn to paddling metaphors for business and life, and want an inside look at the whitewater world from someone who helped build it—this one’s a gem worth your full attention. Available wherever you get your podcasts!

What happens when the student becomes the teacher — and your kid starts paddling harder than you ever did? In this heartfelt and often hilarious conversation, I sit down with Ken and Cashion Porter-Shirley, a father-son duo whose relationship has evolved from early river days full of coaching and “peer pressure” to deep mutual respect and role reversal. Together, we dive into: 🧠 Building confidence through discomfort — for both kids and parents 👨‍👦 The moment Cashion started ‘worrying’ about Ken 💔 Processing the loss of a paddling friend and showing up with empathy 🎒 How kayaking shaped Cashion’s identity and relationship with fear 🛶 Why trust, communication, and community matter most on and off the water 😬The things I discovered I got wrong about both of them when we paddled together This episode is full of laughter, perspective, vulnerability, and the raw truth of parenting and paddling in the discomfort zone.  Available wherever you get your podcasts!

💥 This episode is a real-time reflection four weeks into navigating the ups and downs of my journey to healing my back.   I’ve resisted recording an update because I feel vulnerable, but this podcast is about the Discomfort Zone, and I’m in it!  I’m sharing hard lessons I’m learning about slowing down, letting go, and rewriting old patterns around self-worth, over-scheduling, and the belief that I have to do it all. Here are some takeaways that I share: 🌊 The humbling truth of injury for lifelong athletes 🧠 Why body awareness alone isn’t always enough 🔥 How redefining self-worth is helping me heal 💡 Creative shifts that are empowering me — and my team 🌱 How staying adaptable mentally, physically and professionally is clutch If you’ve ever pushed yourself too hard, tied your value to your output, or resisted rest, this one’s for you. It’s an episode packed with honesty, insight, and wisdom you can carry into your own discomfort zone. 🎧 Listen now and rethink how you move through the world — on and off the river.

This one goes deep, y’all. 💛 In this episode, I sit down with Mike Wang—a paddling coach and entrepreneur —who shares his powerful journey of navigating discomfort both on and off the water. From growing his self-awareness and communication skills to confronting deep family wounds, Mike opens up about the courageous conversations he’s had with his father, who physically abused him and his mother. We talk about: 🌀 How anger and discomfort can actually fuel growth 🗣️ The importance of curiosity when navigating conflict 💡 Building emotional intelligence and self-awareness 💛 Processing trauma in supportive, safe spaces 🌱 The healing power of forgiveness and vulnerability This is an honest, vulnerable, and deeply inspiring conversation about what it really means to step into the discomfort zone and come out stronger on the other side. If you are experiencing conflict in your life, and are looking for answers and strategies to move forward, you don’t want to miss this one. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

I’ve always prided myself on taking good care of my body. Yoga, chiropractic, massage — the whole mind-body paddle package. But recently, I found myself in unfamiliar territory: excruciating sciatic pain that left me unable to get in my boat… right before Women’s Paddle Fest. In this solo episode, I’m sharing what it’s like to hit that wall — physically, emotionally, and even a little existentially. I talk about: 💥 The pain that took me down and the empathy it cracked wide open 🚣‍♀️ The tough choice to step back as a leader during Paddle Fest 🌟 What it felt like to watch others step up and carry the vibe — beautifully 🌀 The identity shift I wasn’t ready for 🌈 And how I’m working on focusing less on pain and more on healing and gratitude If you’ve ever had to pause when you really didn’t want to, or felt like your identity was being shaken, this one’s for you. Thanks for listening, for supporting, and for being a part of this community. If you’ve dealt with L3/L4 stuff or sciatic pain and have tips, I’d love to hear from you. 🎧 Give it a listen — I hope it resonates. With gratitude, Anna 💙

What happens when you stop chasing perfection and start getting real—with yourself, your fears, and the people around you? In this raw and inspiring conversation, 🛶I sit down with 🎤 Trey Rouss, owner of The Power of Water,  to paddle straight into the heart of discomfort—and the unexpected power it holds. Using kayaking as both metaphor and mirror, they explore what it really takes to grow as a person. 💬 Along the way, they dive into: 💥 Why discomfort is where transformation begins—and how to lean into it, not avoid it (especially when you’re upside down underwater). 🌱 How grounding and presence can help you move through fear with more ease. 🫶 Why vulnerability is a superpower, not a weakness—and how it unlocks growth. 🌊 How kayaking mirrors life, revealing patterns of control, fear, and joy. 🗣️ The courage it takes to communicate honestly—without making others wrong. 🐾 Why small steps matter more than big leaps, especially when building confidence. They also unpack the resistance we all feel toward change (yes, even the high achievers!), and how letting go of who we think we should be makes space for who we actually are. 👉 Join us for a fun, honest, and empowering conversation that will leave you thinking differently about growth—on the water and in life. 💛

What if your breath could be the key to healing, resilience, and reclaiming your power? In this inspiring and heartfelt episode, I sit down with Adam Spillman — a cancer survivor, breathwork and meditation teacher — whose journey will shift the way you think about discomfort, recovery, and self-discovery. ✨ Here’s what we dive into: 🧠 How breathwork helped Adam heal emotionally and physically after a life-threatening diagnosis and surgery 🌊 Redefining identity and reconnecting with paddling after cancer 🌀 What it means to “refine the human” — and how that leads to more authenticity, presence, and power 💬 Why sharing your work and voice matters more than you know — even if you never see the impact directly 🔥 Tools and mindset shifts for building resilience and self-awareness through life’s toughest challenges Whether you're navigating a hard season, craving more meaning, or just love a powerful comeback story — this conversation will breathe fresh perspective into your day. 🎧 Take a deep breath and press play — your next breakthrough might just start here.

Need a boost of adventure, energy, and motivation? You're going to love this conversation with accomplished whitewater paddler and adventurer Anna Wagner! She’s tackled some of the toughest multi-day expeditions in North America — from the Stikine to the Middle Kings, plus multiple 💦 70+ ft waterfalls in the PNW. But her real superpower? Turning fear into fuel and self-doubt into confidence. 🔥 In this episode, we dive into: 🧠 Neuroplasticity & body awareness — what Anna learned from studying Occupational Therapy 🧗‍♀️ How she mentally and physically prepares for high-stakes expeditions 💬 Real talk on navigating fear, fatigue, and negative brain spirals 🌄 How outdoor adventure builds life skills and resilience 💡 Why mindset training is just as important as physical training Whether you're a paddler, adventurer, or just looking for a fresh perspective on courage and confidence, Anna’s story will light you up. Her energy is contagious, and her insights are gold. ✨ 🎧 Listen now and train your brain to show up with courage — on and off the river!

What does it really take to peel out of the eddy with confidence—on the river and in life? In this solo episode, Anna shares insights from a Class IV day on the Cheoah River and a powerful conversation about mindset, trust, and making bold moves. Learn how familiar thought patterns keep us stuck, and how generating the feelings you want—before the big rapid—can shift everything. Whether you're on the water or navigating a challenge in life, this episode offers a fresh perspective on how to find your flow. You’ll learn: Why familiar patterns feel safe—even when they hold you back A simple yet powerful morning practice to shift your energy How “spotting your landing” applies both on and off the river If you’re ready to move through fear, let go of perfectionism, and feel more joy in your paddling and your life—this one’s for you.