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Welcome to The Legal Leaders Podcast, brought to you by InView - LawVu's community for In-House Legal Professionals.
A place where candid conversations meet legal excellence; from exploring the latest technological advancements shaping legal practice to addressing crucial issues surrounding mental health and diversity in the legal profession, each episode offers a refreshing and honest perspective on the challenges and opportunities facing today's legal community.
A place where candid conversations meet legal excellence; from exploring the latest technological advancements shaping legal practice to addressing crucial issues surrounding mental health and diversity in the legal profession, each episode offers a refreshing and honest perspective on the challenges and opportunities facing today's legal community.
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In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Bill Deckelman, Chief Legal Officer at Anderson, about leading legal transformation, scaling global organizations, and the future of in-house legal in the age of AI.They discuss:Building a public company's legal function from the ground up post-IPOTransforming legal teams through digital strategy, process, and technologyHow AI is reshaping risk, decision-making, and the role of in-house lawyersYou can tune in for an unfiltered conversation on legal transformation, leadership evolution, and the future of the in-house profession.Links:Connect with Bill Deckelman on LinkedIn.Follow the Legal Leader community on LinkedIn.Join the Legal Leader community.
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Brian Levey, Senior Advisor at Upwork and former Chief Legal Officer and Chief Business Affairs Officer, about scaling high-growth businesses, building high-trust legal teams, and how modern in-house lawyers become true business leaders. Brian shares lessons from helping scale eBay during its early hypergrowth – from 900 employees and $400M in revenue to a global powerhouse – and later building the legal function at Upwork, one of the world’s largest freelancer marketplaces. Throughout the conversation, he explains how legal leaders can embed themselves within the business, prioritize the risks that truly matter, and create systems that allow companies to scale without slowing innovation. They discuss: How legal leaders help scale companies during hypergrowth Building a high-trust legal team and culture Moving from the “department of no” to the “department of how” Creating frameworks that allow legal teams to prioritize risk and enable the business Why modern in-house lawyers must become business partners, not just advisors Tune in for an unfiltered conversation on scaling businesses, building high-trust teams, and becoming a true partner to the business as a legal leader. Links: Connect with Brian Levey on LinkedIn Follow Legal Leader Community on LinkedIn.Join the Legal Leader Community.
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Fred Struve, General Counsel at Lunit International, about leading a modern legal function inside a fast-growing, AI-powered medical device company operating across the U.S., Europe, and Asia.They discuss:Building and scaling a global legal function across highly regulated marketsThe evolving role of in-house legal leaders in AI and health technologyBalancing risk, speed, and culture in cross-border growth and M&ATune in for an unfiltered conversation on global legal leadership, AI in healthcare, and what it really takes to enable growth in a regulated, international business.Links:Connect with Fred Struve on LinkedInFollow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Anne Kerwin Payne, Founder and Managing Director at Kerwin, about the evolution of in-house legal leadership, the state of the legal talent market, and what modern legal leaders need to succeed.They discuss:How the in-house legal profession has transformed from a law-firm alternative into a core business leadership functionThe impact of market cycles, layoffs, and recovery on legal careers and hiring trendsWhy legal operations, technology fluency, and strategic vision are now essential for legal leadersTune in for an unfiltered conversation on the changing expectations of general counsel, the rise of legal operations and legal tech, and how legal leaders can build resilient, future-ready careers.Links:Connect with Anne Kerwin Payne on LinkedInFollow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot, Chief Legal Officer and EVP of Advocacy at LawVu, talks with Michelle Clatfelter, Chief Legal Officer at Springfield Clinic, about her unconventional path into healthcare law, what it takes to lead as the first in-house lawyer, and how modern legal leadership is reshaping the healthcare industry.They discuss:How Michelle built a modern in-house legal function from scratch at Springfield ClinicWhy relationship-building, community, and trust are differentiators for today’s CLOsThe evolution of in-house legal leadership—and why the old “risk mitigation only” mindset no longer worksTune in for an unfiltered conversation on legal team building, cross-industry leadership lessons, and the realities of operating as a modern CLO in one of the world’s most complex, regulated industries.Links:Connect with Michelle Clatfelter on LinkedInFollow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Katja Fenton, General Counsel at Fugro, about global legal leadership, building high-impact legal teams, and navigating complex geopolitical and regulatory environments.They discuss:How Fugro’s global operations – from geo-data to unmanned vessels – demand a sophisticated, business-aligned legal functionThe evolving expectations of modern GCs and why strategic leadership now sits at the core of the roleKatja’s international career journey and how diverse experiences shaped her approach to influence, culture, and team developmentTune in for an unfiltered conversation on global business partnership, strategic legal leadership, and building a modern, globally minded in-house team.Links:Connect with Katja Fenton on LinkedInFollow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Delphina Turner, former Executive Director of Legal Operations at Panasonic Automotive, about leading legal operations transformation inside a complex, global enterprise.They discuss:Building and scaling modern legal operations without a traditional legal backgroundUsing technology, AI, and playbooks to accelerate contracting and business outcomesLeadership, mentorship, and creating a sustainable legacy within the legal functionTune in for an unfiltered conversation on legal operations leadership, AI-enabled transformation, and what it takes to modernize an in-house legal team.Links:Connect with Delphina Turner on LinkedInFollow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Kasper Hansen, Head of Legal Operations at Arla Foods, about the evolution of legal ops in Scandinavia, the skills today’s legal teams need, and how operational mindset transforms the in-house legal function.They discuss:How Kasper built Arla’s legal operations function from the ground upWhy data, curiosity, and cross-functional fluency matter more than ever in legalThe coming impact of AI and why structured data is now a critical legal assetTune in for an unfiltered conversation on modern legal operations, the rise of the operational lawyer, and how legal teams can accelerate the business through data and process discipline.Links:Connect with Kasper Hansen on LinkedIn.Follow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Eduardo (Ed) Rastelli, Chief of Staff & Global Head of Legal Operations at IHG Hotels & Resorts, about how modern legal operations is evolving into a true business accelerator — integrating AI, data, people, and technology to transform how global legal teams operate.They discuss:How IHG’s connected BRR model (Business Reputation & Responsibility) unifies legal, risk, compliance, audit, and insuranceWhy the role of legal operations has shifted from spend management to strategic enablementHow AI, analytics, and people-centered design are shaping the next generation of in-house legal teamsTune in for an unfiltered conversation on integrated legal operations, AI-driven transformation, and what it takes to build a strategic, data-powered legal function.Links:Connect with Eduardo Rastelli on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Lisa Mather, a seasoned global legal executive and transformation leader, about her unconventional career path and the evolving expectations of modern in-house lawyers.They discuss:How a dual passion for science and law led Lisa to an “accidental” yet intentional legal careerLessons from building a global perspective across Australia, Hong Kong, Prague, New York, Singapore, and ChicagoHow digital transformation, sustainability, and AI are reshaping the future of in-house legal leadershipTune in for an unfiltered conversation on personal reinvention, global agility, and the profound changes technology is bringing to the legal profession.Links:Connect with Lisa Mather on LinkedInFollow Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Catherine Kemnitz, Chief Strategy & Development Officer at Axiom, about how in-house law is evolving. They discuss:The shift from prestige law firms to empowered in-house careersAI’s impact: from research to judgment, strategy, and creativityWhy law schools must teach adaptability and people skillsLegal ops and consulting as critical tools for modern GCsCore traits for future lawyers: agility, curiosity, and passionTune in for an unfiltered conversation on innovation, strategy, and the evolving role of in-house counsel.Links:Connect with Catherine Kemnitz on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, David Lancelot sits down with Scott Brown, Founder and Chief Visionary Officer of Heriot Brown to explore how legal professionals can take control of their career paths. They discuss:Why job hunting should never start only when you need a roleHow consistent networking and profile building create long-term opportunitiesPractical steps for using LinkedIn, conferences, and authentic connections to future-proof your career.Packed with candid insights and actionable strategies, this conversation is a must-listen for any in-house lawyer serious about staying ahead in a competitive market.Links:Connect with Scott Brown on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of the Legal Leaders Podcast, Peter Connor, founder of T-Shaped Legal, shares how in-house lawyers can transform from “just lawyers” into true business partners. Drawing on his career at Sun Microsystems, Citrix, and beyond, Peter explains: the T-Shaped Lawyer modelwhy adopting a business person mindset is essentialhow AI and technology are reshaping the legal profession. Tune in to learn practical steps for building future-ready legal teams that lead with strategy, not just contracts.Links:Connect with Peter on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of the Legal Leaders Podcast, Mark Smolik, CLO at DHL Supply Chain Americas joins host, David Lancelot for a deep dive into the evolution of in-house legal leadership. Mark shares his journey from rebuilding legal teams to spearheading innovation at DHL, highlighting the qualities of a modern legal leader—curiosity, trust, business acumen, and integrity. Together they exploreLhow data is becoming the new foundation for legal strategywhy strong partnerships with finance and operations are criticalhow AI is reshaping the future of the legal professionPacked with practical advice and forward-looking insights, this conversation is a must-listen for legal professionals seeking to lead with impact in a rapidly changing world.Links:Connect with Mark on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this special episode, host David Lancelot is joined by Cory Sumsion (Head of Commercial Legal at Signifyd) and Greg Lorenzon (Associate General Counsel at Clearlink) to explore what it takes to build a scalable “engine room” for the legal function.Together, they share lessons learned from their careers at organizations like eBay, Zions Bank, and beyon, highlighting how intake processes, risk-based frameworks, and technology can transform legal from a reactive cost centre into a strategic business driver.Key takeaways include:Why moving beyond the “more lawyers” model is essential to scale.How to apply an operational mindset to disaggregate work and match it with the right resources.The importance of centralised intake and funnel models to streamline contracting.Real-world insights on introducing self-service, leveraging technology, and using metrics to demonstrate value.Strategies to shift perceptions of legal from gatekeepers to growth accelerators.This episode is packed with practical insights on making legal functions more efficient, data-driven, and business-aligned.LinksConnect with Cory & Greg on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of The Legal Leaders podcast, host Emma Coxhead sits down with Dr Maria Pozza, Director of Gravity Lawyers and New Zealand’s pioneering space law expert. Maria shares her remarkable journey from the UK bar to shaping New Zealand’s space legislation, revealing the pivotal moments, challenges, and mindset shifts that have defined her career.Listeners will discover:How Maria carved out a niche in the little-understood world of space law.The importance of clear communication and storytelling in legal practice.Why in-house lawyers must be their own cheerleaders and master the art of influencing.Practical strategies for embracing change, adopting technology, and building trusted stakeholder relationships.How curiosity, resilience, and backing yourself can open doors to unexpected opportunities.Whether you’re fascinated by the intersection of law and technology or seeking motivation to own your career path, this conversation is a masterclass in turning challenges into opportunities.Links:Connect with Maria on LinkedIn Follow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode, Emma Coxhead is joined by Megan Gray to share Megan’s career journey and how her identity has evolved through life events throughout her career. Megan is a Knowledge Development Lawyer in London and has spent the vast majority of her career specialising in capital markets. Megan explains to us what the motherhood penalty is and how Megan is using her position as a legal leader to advocate for gender equality and her hopes for the future of legal practice.In this episode we discuss:Megan's legal career as a corporate lawyer in magic circle law firms in LondonThe identity shift she went through when she had her first child and the challenges she faced returning to work in corporate lawMegan's experience in-house and how this opened her eyes to other ways of working flexiblyHow Megan has prioritized wellbeing throughout her careerLessons learnt in her career journey and how she is using her voice to advocate for equal rights in the legal professionLinksConnect with Megan on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode of the Legal Leaders Podcast, Adam Becker, the Director of Legal Operations at Cockroach Labs shares his journey from practicing law in a New York firm to transitioning into legal operations. He discusses the challenges he faced, the skills he had to unlearn, and the new ones he acquired. From managing teams to implementing technology and aligning legal objectives with business strategies, Adam provides a thorough exploration of the evolving role of legal operations. Links:Connect with Adam on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode, dive into the compelling story of legal operations pioneer Jeffrey Franke as he joins David Lancelot to share invaluable insights on enhancing the impact of legal departments.Key Highlights:Explore Jeffrey’s dynamic career, from his early start at Fry's Electronics to driving innovation at Sun Microsystems.Learn about the creation of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) and its role in transforming the profession.Discover strategies for making legal departments a competitive advantage.Gain insights into the future of legal operations and vision for the industry.Links:Connect with Jeffrey on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
In this episode, Efftichia (Effie) Dower, VP of Legal at M42 joins your host, Emma Coxhead to share her inspiring career story and her insights on the foundational role of mentorship in the legal profession. From her “squiggly” career path that saw her leave and return to the law, to her impactful move from the UK to the UAE, Effie dives deep into the lessons she’s learned about adapting, leading, and fostering growth within her teams.Key topics include:The crucial role mentorship plays in developing confidence and driving career growth.How leaders can effectively mentor their teams while enabling open, growth-oriented cultures.The exciting innovation-focused legal landscape of the UAE and adapting to global opportunities.Practical advice on finding or becoming a mentor and building authentic mentoring relationships.Whether you’re seeking career inspiration or actionable advice on creating strong mentor-mentee relationships, this episode is packed with insights you don’t want to miss. Links:Connect with Effie on LinkedInFollow the Legal Leader Community on LinkedInJoin the Legal Leader Community
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