Founding Partner Podcast

What does it really take to walk away from prestige and bet on yourself? How do two rivals become partners, build a team that never loses a lawyer to another firm, and still keep their humanity in the fight? Is the billable hour dying, or is it stronger than ever in big-ticket litigation? And what do you do when your daughter is born at 3 a.m. and your Eleventh Circuit argument is at eight? This 100th episode dives into the gut calls, the near-misses, and the systems that make a firm outlast its founders. Ready to hear what most don’t say out loud?

What happens when a trial lawyer decides to stop doing everything himself? In this episode, Dan Purtell reveals how letting go transformed his firm from five people to sixty—and why saying no to the wrong cases made room for the right ones. Can a law firm scale without losing its soul? And what happens when AI enters the courtroom? This conversation might change how you think about leadership, growth, and the future of law.

What happens when a successful attorney finally admits he can’t do it all? When letting go becomes the only way to grow? In this in-person episode, I sit down with Kevin Rubin, founder of Rubin Family Law, to talk fear, delegation, and the mindset shifts that turned chaos into culture. How do you build a thriving firm without losing control—or yourself—in the process?

What if the universe really is trying to tell you something—but most of us are too busy to listen? Joe Fried was a cop who never planned on being a lawyer, until a judge pulled him aside and changed his life. He walked away from a lucrative practice, burned the boats, and five hours later got a call that set his destiny in motion. In our conversation, he shares why chasing money is the wrong path, why fear can be your greatest teacher, and how specializing can make you unstoppable. What would happen if you stopped playing it safe and committed fully to one path?

What makes someone leave a stable job, take four bar exams, and then launch a law firm with zero clients just weeks before a global pandemic? In this episode, I sit down with Roya Vasseghi, who did exactly that. We talk about starting over in a new state, why building relationships pays off years later, and the painful reality of partnerships that don’t work out. Her story made me ask: how do you know when to bet on yourself, and what’s the cost if you don’t?

What if the one thing holding your law firm back isn’t more cases, but the way you run the cases you already have? In my latest conversation with Tim McKey of Vista Consulting, we dug into the uncomfortable truth: top firms don’t rely on pixie dust or luck—they rely on vision, culture, and two numbers that most firms don’t even track. Could the difference between a good practice and a great one really come down to just intake conversion and client contact? Listen and decide for yourself.

What do you do when your very first case is one you’re not trained for, unpaid, and the stakes are someone’s freedom? Steven Goldstein leaned in, admitted to prosecutors “I don’t know what I’m doing—help me,” and turned vulnerability into strength. From hustling PI cases by walking Broadway, to playing basketball on the Knicks’ court, to winning a multimillion-dollar “jaywalking case” after a client was wrongfully jailed—his story left me asking: is the real secret to success in law about skill… or about hustle, humility, and connection?

What happens when you stop chasing every client… and start firing the wrong ones?For 20 years, Jeff Sladkus built a law firm that protects some of the world’s most famous brands. But it didn’t happen by playing it safe. From waking up at 5:30 a.m. every morning to serve Italian fashion houses, to freezing counterfeiters’ bank accounts before they even knew they’d been sued—his story forces you to ask:👉 Would your business grow faster if you focused less on saying “yes”… and more on saying “no”?

What can a personal injury lawyer teach you about negotiating with insurance adjusters, running a mid-size firm, going viral on LinkedIn, and flying first-class to Europe for $500? In this episode, I sat down with Matt Long — a lawyer who’s just as comfortable in the courtroom as he is at the poker table. His story will make you rethink how lawyers build influence, avoid burnout, and even travel the world. Would you run your practice the way he does?

What does it really take to be a good mom, a good wife, and still run a thriving law firm? 🌍 When Hurricane Katrina forced Elise Buie to rebuild her life from scratch—not once, but twice—she discovered resilience most of us can only imagine. Today, she leads a 40-person remote-first firm with a culture built on accountability, kindness, and something she calls “unreasonable hospitality.” But how do you balance family, leadership, and growth without burning out—or losing yourself along the way?

What happens when a top family lawyer says his real identity isn’t “attorney” at all?Hannibal Heredia has built a 20-year law firm partnership, navigated immigrant family expectations, and handled the toughest moments in clients’ lives — yet still calls himself “a hundred percent musician.”How do you balance courtrooms with chord progressions? What does it take to make a business partnership last decades? And why might the best lessons in law come from life on stage?Hannibal F. Heredia has practiced family law almost exclusively since 1994. He received his JD from Southwestern University, cum laude, in 1993, was the Editor in Chief of the Southwestern University Law Review, and received his undergraduate degree from Auburn University. In addition to practicing in all areas of family law, Hannibal also serves as a mediator and Guardian ad Litem in Courts throughout the metro Atlanta area.Since 2016, he has been named one of the Top 100 lawyers in Georgia by Atlanta magazine. Atlanta magazine lists Hannibal as a Super Lawyer, and Georgia Trend magazine recognizes him as “Legal Elite” in the area of Family Law. Hannibal also volunteers his time for the Atlanta Volunteer Lawyers Foundation, serving both as a legal representative for victims of domestic violence as well as a Guardian Ad Litem. He is also on the board of the Atlanta Bar Foundation, which is the charitable arm of the Atlanta Bar Association.

What happens when a Big Law partner walks away from the prestige… and builds something better? What if naming your firm after yourself is actually holding you back? In this conversation with Adam Marshall, we explore why culture beats ego, how smart firms grow without chasing, and what most lawyers get wrong about client service. Would your clients follow you if you left tomorrow? Adam found out. Here’s what happened next.

What if the billable hour isn’t broken… but obsolete?Kimberly Bennett didn’t just walk away from hourly billing—she built something better. A flat-fee law firm. A legal tech company. And a third business… just for fun.She nearly burned out doing it all.So how did she turn that chaos into clarity—and a platform that might just change how legal services are delivered forever?This one’s not about theory. It’s about what actually works.

What if the best thing you ever built started with a single text message? Meghan Freed never planned to start a law firm—let alone lead the largest family law practice in Connecticut. But what happens when you stop doing what you’re “supposed” to do… and start listening to what actually lights you up? In this episode, we talk about breakups (business and personal), niching down, uncomfortable feedback, and the moment you realize: I’m sick of this problem. I want a new one. What if your growth started with letting go?

What if the thing that makes you different is exactly what your clients are looking for?Josh Hodges didn’t become a lawyer until he was 32. No Ivy League pedigree. No polished fast track. Just grit, DMV floors, and a daughter who changed everything. Today, he runs one of the most trusted personal injury firms in small-town Ohio—not by outspending the big guys, but by out-showing up.What does it take to build real trust in a world obsessed with flash?This story might make you rethink how you grow your firm.

What if the best law firm in your state wasn’t built by the smartest lawyer… but by the one who learned to let go?Jay Ruane didn’t want 45 employees. He didn’t want to be a CEO. But somewhere between courtrooms and burnout, he built something bigger — and walked away from the work most lawyers cling to.He says the key wasn’t money. It was dinner with his kids.And AI? It’s already replacing hours of legal grunt work in his firm.So the real question is: what are you still holding onto… that’s holding you back?

What happens when you risk everything on a case, with no offer on the table and $50K already spent on experts? For Howard Ankin, it wasn’t just a turning point—it was the moment that changed everything. From a folding table and 40 referrals to a 100-person law firm competing with national giants, Howard’s journey proves success doesn’t come from luck—it comes from showing up when it counts. But how do you scale without losing your soul? And what does it really take to lead a firm that lasts?

Laura Noble is the founder and Managing Partner of The Noble Law Firm, a recognized leader in employment law. With over 30 years of diverse legal experience, Laura’s approach combines powerful advocacy, empathetic client service, and technological innovation in all stages and aspects of employment disputes. Laura strives to cultivate a positive workplace culture built on the core values of collaboration, leadership, empathy, integrity, innovation, and equity. These values—combined with outstanding team members and advanced technology—allow The Noble Law Firm to help level the playing field for employees.

What happens when a missionary kid becomes a lawyer—and builds a firm that treats investigations like a path to healing, not just damage control?Most attorneys avoid the messy, emotional work. Theresa Sidebotham built her entire practice around it. From child protection in churches to workplace abuse in nonprofits, she handles the cases no one wants… with a strategy most law schools never teach.This is the story of how crisis, calling, and a volcanic eruption shaped one of the most unconventional law firms in the country.

Aaron Minc is the founding partner of Minc Law and a nationally recognized leader in Internet defamation who tackles the most challenging online crises with innovative legal solutions. Under his leadership, Minc Law has successfully litigated over 200 Internet defamation lawsuits across 22 states and 3 countries, removing tens of thousands of defamatory websites and search results. His practice helps individuals, businesses, celebrities, and organizations combat anonymous attacks, online harassment, revenge porn, sextortion, and other digital threats.A sought-after media commentator on Internet privacy issues, Aaron applies his 15+ years of experience to uncover anonymous users and provide clients with peace of mind during digital crises. As the visionary founder who built Minc Law from the ground up, Aaron has transformed how legal services address online reputation challenges. When not fighting online battles, this Northeast Ohio native enjoys skiing, golf, and spending time with his wife and two sons in Moreland Hills.