The Inner Chief

“I feel that if you understand finance and economics, you understand how most of the world works.”   In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Joel Holland, CEO of Harvest Hosts on why unhappiness is a requirement for entrepreneurialism, switching seats from CEO to Chair, and buying versus building a business. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/328  👂   GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview   Joel is the CEO of Harvest Hosts, a membership program that connects RVers (caravaners) with unique overnight experiences at 5,000+ wineries, farms, breweries, museums, golf courses and other interesting destinations in the US and Canada. Earlier in his career, after stints in investment banking and in media organisations, he founded Storyblocks, the world’s first stock media subscription service, which was purchased by private equity firm Great Hill Partners in June 2020. Joel has been named one of the "Top 25 Entrepreneurs Under 25" by BusinessWeek Magazine, and "Young Entrepreneur of the Year" by the United States Small Business Administration, and "Entrepreneur of the Year" for the Greater Washington DC Region by Ernst & Young, and also recognised on the Inc. "30 Under 30" list. When he isn't working, Joel is outside as much as possible with his family in Vail, Colorado. He is proud to be a member of Vail Mountain Rescue, the search and rescue team for Eagle County.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  How in high school he hosted a show where he interviewed celebrities, athletes, politicians and Fortune 500 CEOs, including Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steve Forbes. ✅  Switching seats from CEO to Chair at Storyblocks, and why burnout forced such a move. ✅  The incredible operational principles which help him achieve success but also balance in life, and ✅  How he took Harvest Hosts from a solid business and on an explosive growth trajectory, and why he suggests building a business first, and buying thereafter. Deal hope, Greg   Thanks to former guest, Shane Russell, for introducing us to Joel.   Connecting with Joel Holland You can connect with Joel via LinkedIn, and you can view the Harvest Hosts website. Books and resources Storyblocks - a stock media company All Trails - an app for hiking Similar Episodes on buying companies Jaimie Fuller, former CEO of SKINS on coping with rapid growth Julie Mathers, CEO of Snuggle Hunny on first-mover advantage Ben Simon, Partner of Rose Partners on diffusing heated negotiations and identifying red flags during a deal Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“We're trying to ease the financial pain for the next generation in the green and gold.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. This Mini Chief episode features Gold medallist and 5-time Olympian, Natalie Cook OAM OLY. Her full episode is titled How to out-think the opposition, and why it takes an ecosystem to win a gold medal. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/326  👂   GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview   Nat is a five-time Olympian, Gold and Bronze Medallist in beach volleyball, representing Australia in the Summer Olympics between 1996 and 2012. A passionate athlete advocate, Nat has always been a champion of the transformational power of sport and the life lessons learnt pursuing your dreams. Her trademark authenticity, energy and ease, combined with her success as both an elite athlete and influential business leader, make Nat a powerful motivational speaker and strategic sports and wellbeing advisor. Serving as a Director of Brisbane 2032, Olympic and Paralympic Games Organising Committee, and holding a position on the World Olympians Association Board, Nat is a firm believer in the Games' potential to create enduring legacies for individuals, businesses, and society as a whole.   In the full episode we talk about:  ✅  The ecosystem of things required to go right for the eventual winning of a gold medal ✅  How, in competition, she used the metaphor of attacking the opposition from the top of the hill ✅  The mindsets and mind techniques she learnt being an elite full-time athlete, including how to make the crowd work for you ✅  Working with a former Chief Maker guest, Dr Jeff Spencer, on adjusting to life after an Olympics, and ✅  The incredible work she is doing behind the scenes to support not only Brisbane 2032 but also prospective Australian athletes striving to make the Games.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Natalie Cook OAM OLY You can connect with Nat via LinkedIn, her website and Aussie Athlete Fund. Books and resources $1 Million Challenge - Aussie Athlete Fund launch video The Art of War - by Sun Tzu Way of the Peaceful Warrior - by Dan Millman Similar Episodes on high performance sport Dr Jeff Spencer, The man behind 40+ Olympic gold medals and Tiger Woods on Building your champion mindset and your pathway to your potential with the Olympic champion maker Leah Amico, Triple US Olympic Team Gold Medallist on How to build a GOLD standard, boosting confidence and empathetic teamwork Ben Darwin, Co-Founder and Director of GAIN LINE on Cohesion analytics, understanding versus skill, and sacking staff too soon Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Sometimes you've got to save them from themselves and have some really honest, heart-to-heart conversations about their role.”   Chief, in today’s minisode and YouTube video, I’m going to cover a little problem that has come up repeatedly over the last few years and that is right person, wrong role. This is when you have a great employee in your stables, but they’re not performing to the standards required of the role. But this is not always what it seems; often this is due to the role not being a good fit for their skill set or experience. This can have all sorts of implications on the business, so you need to make some bold calls and have some difficult conversations, but always with respect.   🎧👉 chiefmaker.com/327 👂 DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER GUIDE FOR SENIOR LEADERS ON HOW TO HAVE DIFFICULT PERFORMANCE CONVERSATIONS: chiefmaker.com/difficult   So today, Chief, we’re going to talk about: ✅  The 5 scenarios where job fit becomes an issue and why these are occuring, and ✅  What you can do as a leader about ensuring you give your employee hope that they can perform and contribute to the organisation.   Deal hope, Greg   Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Our job as a coach is to find out why the swing has changed, because the only way you can fix it is by identifying the real bottleneck, the real constraint. But without being reactive.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. In this edition of the Mini Chief we feature a snippet from our Best of Series with Golf master Coach, Steve Bann. His full episode is titled Working with the world’s best golfers, turning practice into confidence, and the improvement lifecycle.   You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/325  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER GUIDE FOR SENIOR LEADERS ON HOW TO HAVE DIFFICULT PERFORMANCE CONVERSATIONS: chiefmaker.com/difficult   I interviewed Steve for this podcast in 2018. Steve is a partner in BannLynchMcDade, a coaching team that has coached their students to 29 USPGA Tour wins and multiple international amateur and professional titles. After turning professional in 1979, Steve played on the Australian PGA Tour from 1981 to 1996. However, since 1996, Steve has travelled the world, coaching at over 40 Majors and five Presidents' Cups. His students have included Stuart Appleby, Robert Allenby, Ian Baker-Finch, Greg Norman, Vijay Singh, and Adam Scott. Steve has been described by his clients as the most knowledgeable coach in the world. He is also the author of Simply Golf: Back to Basics.   In the full episode we talk about: ✅  Why a lot of coaches focus on fixing technique, which leads to a reactive cycle, and often has the opposite effect ✅  How the improvement life cycle of technical, physical, mental and strategic changes, is a far greater process to undertake ✅  The 6,500 skills the professionals have to learn to master golf and how this translates to the business world, and ✅  The 4-step routine to gaining confidence.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Steve Bann You can reach Steve on his Coaching website or YouTube. Books and resources Simply Golf: Back to Basics - by Steve Bann Practical Golf - by John Jacobs Similar Episodes on coaching Peter Knight, Golf coach on Putting in place the steps to become a true master of your craft Roger Love, The World’s #1 Celebrity Voice Coach on The man who taught Bradley Cooper, Reese Witherspoon, The Beach Boys and more to use their voice to change the world Dr Jeff Spencer, The man behind 40+ Olympic gold medals and Tiger Woods on Building your champion mindset and your pathway to your potential with the Olympic champion maker Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Amateurs do it until they get it right; professionals do it until they can't get it wrong.”   In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Natalie Cook OAM OLY on how to out-think the competition, and why it takes an ecosystem to win a gold medal. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/326  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER GUIDE FOR SENIOR LEADERS ON HOW TO HAVE DIFFICULT PERFORMANCE CONVERSATIONS: chiefmaker.com/difficult   Nat is a five-time Olympian, Gold and Bronze Medallist in beach volleyball, representing Australia in the Summer Olympics between 1996 and 2012. A passionate athlete advocate, Nat has always been a champion of the transformational power of sport and the life lessons learnt pursuing your dreams. Her trademark authenticity, energy and ease, combined with her success as both an elite athlete and influential business leader, make Nat a powerful motivational speaker and strategic sports and wellbeing advisor. Serving as a Director of Brisbane 2032, Olympic and Paralympic Games Organising Committee, and holding a position on the World Olympians Association Board, Nat is a firm believer in the Games' potential to create enduring legacies for individuals, businesses, and society as a whole.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  The ecosystem of things required to go right for the eventual winning of a gold medal ✅  How, in competition, she used the metaphor of attacking the opposition from the top of the hill ✅  The mindsets and mind techniques she learnt being an elite full-time athlete, including how to make the crowd work for you ✅  Working with a former Chief Maker guest, Dr Jeff Spencer, on adjusting to life after an Olympics, and ✅  The incredible work she is doing behind the scenes to support not only Brisbane 2032 but also prospective Australian athletes striving to make the Games.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Natalie Cook OAM OLY You can connect with Nat via LinkedIn, her website and Aussie Athlete Fund. Books and resources $1 Million Challenge - Aussie Athlete Fund launch video The Art of War - by Sun Tzu Way of the Peaceful Warrior - by Dan Millman Similar Episodes on high performance sport Dr Jeff Spencer, The man behind 40+ Olympic gold medals and Tiger Woods on Building your champion mindset and your pathway to your potential with the Olympic champion maker Leah Amico, Triple US Olympic Team Gold Medallist on How to build a GOLD standard, boosting confidence and empathetic teamwork Ben Darwin, Co-Founder and Director of GAIN LINE on Cohesion analytics, understanding versus skill, and sacking staff too soon Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Decision friction is when you deliberately interrupt your thoughts before forming a judgement. You adopt a series of prompts or questions that are like a speed bump for your mind if you’re in a hot state.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. This Mini Chief episode features Nuala Walsh, Founder & CEO of MindEquity and author of Tune In: How to make smarter decisions in a noisy world. Her full episode is titled The art of decision-making like a ninja, and learning to control your emotions and recognise your biases. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/323  👂   GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview   With over 30 years’ experience in FTSE-50 and Fortune 500 financial services firms, Nuala is Founder & CEO of MindEquity Consulting, as well as a Founding Director of the world’s first Global Association of Applied Behavioural Scientists. Prior to that, she was an award-winning Chief Marketing Officer at Standard Life Aberdeen, and has had previous executive roles with Merrill Lynch, BlackRock, and PA Consulting. Today, she sits on multiple Advisory Boards including The British & Irish Lions Rugby Union, Basketball Ireland, and The Innocence Project, is President of The Harvard Club of Ireland, is Deputy Chair of The Football Association’s Inclusion Board, and is a Gender Taskforce Advisor at World Athletics. Listed among the Top 100 Most Influential Women in Finance, she holds degrees in multiple disciplines including a Masters in Behavioural Science from the London School of Economics, a Masters in Business Studies; and a BA in Philosophy. Nuala is a seasoned lecturer and keynote speaker, with her work on behavioural science research published and aired on the Harvard Business Review, TEDx, the Economist, the Telegraph, Forbes, BBC, and Fox Business.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  How choices shape your decision mindset and outcomes ✅  The 2 Systems of thinking and how to optimise them for decision-making scenarios ✅  What you can do to control your emotions such as regret and rage so as to de-risk bad decisions ✅  Recognising your biases, of which there are over 200, and ✅  Why not making a decision, is still a decision! Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Nuala Walsh You can connect with Nuala via LinkedIn. Books and resources Tune In: How to make smarter decisions in a noisy world - by Nuala Walsh How to Overcome Indecision: TEDx talk - by Nuala Walsh Thinking Fast and Slow - by Daniel Kahneman The Power of Regret - by Daniel Pink The Top 5 Regrets of The Dying - by Bronnie Ware Similar Episodes on decision-making Izzy Silva, MD of Wolters Kluwer APAC on Using EQ to good effect, making the vision visible, and data-led decision-making  Nancy Slessenger, Founder and CEO of Vinehouse Hiring on Scientific recruitment, the do’s and don’ts of interviewing, and staff retention Mark Pomeroy, CEO of Pomeroy Pacific on Managing risk, asking great questions, and succeeding in a family business Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“We see Tiger Woods get angry and throw clubs, but when he does something he’s done a million times, like hole a 6-foot putt, he gets super excited and dances across the green pumping his fist. Why? He's emotionally anchoring that success.”   In this Best of Series episode of The Inner Chief podcast, we feature Golf master Coach, Steve Bann, on working with the world’s best golfers, turning practice into confidence, and the improvement lifecycle. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/325  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   I interviewed Steve for this podcast in 2018. Steve is a partner in BannLynchMcDade, a coaching team that has coached their students to 29 USPGA Tour wins and multiple international amateur and professional titles. After turning professional in 1979, Steve played on the Australian PGA Tour from 1981 to 1996. However, since 1996, Steve has travelled the world, coaching at over 40 Majors and five Presidents' Cups. His students have included Stuart Appleby, Robert Allenby, Ian Baker-Finch, Greg Norman, Vijay Singh, and Adam Scott. Steve has been described by his clients as the most knowledgeable coach in the world. He is also the author of Simply Golf: Back to Basics.   In this episode we talk about:  ✅  Why a lot of coaches focus on fixing technique, which leads to a reactive cycle, and often has the opposite effect ✅  How the improvement life cycle of technical, physical, mental and strategic changes, is a far greater process to undertake ✅  The 6,500 skills the professionals have to learn to master golf and how this translates to the business world, and ✅  The 4-step routine to gaining confidence.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Steve Bann You can reach Steve on his Coaching website or YouTube. Books and resources Simply Golf: Back to Basics - by Steve Bann Practical Golf - by John Jacobs Similar Episodes on coaching Peter Knight, Golf coach on Putting in place the steps to become a true master of your craft Roger Love, The World’s #1 Celebrity Voice Coach on The man who taught Bradley Cooper, Reese Witherspoon, The Beach Boys and more to use their voice to change the world Dr Jeff Spencer, The man behind 40+ Olympic gold medals and Tiger Woods on Building your champion mindset and your pathway to your potential with the Olympic champion maker Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Yeah, it was brutal, a very, very difficult period of my life. I’d hired a lot of people who didn't have technology experience. What I actually did was I set them and the business up for failure.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. This Mini Chief episode features Jeremy Hastings, Founder & Managing Director of both Hutly and Bondable. His full episode is titled Being fired from his own company and successfully returning to transform the real estate industry after working on his inner chief. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/322  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   After a career in mining at Rio Tinto, Jeremy experienced his first business success through a gelato shop, which sold 16 tonnes in its second year. Following an unsavoury experience with a crooked real estate agent, Jeremy made it his life’s mission to leverage technology to power a more positive, transparent, and human-centred real estate industry, creating Hutly as the world’s only Living Contracts platform and a place where all parties can transact real estate with trust. He is also the founder of Bondable, Australia’s first subscription-based residential bond service, which launched in 2024. Jeremy went to the University of Canberra, where he studied a Bachelor of Business Administration and a Bachelor of Management. He also has three postgraduate qualifications – a Graduate Certificate in Community Relations (Resources Sector) from the University of Queensland, a Masters of Mining Engineering from UNSW and a Masters of Commercial Law from the University of Melbourne.   In the full episode we talk about:  ✅  How an accidental guinea pig brood was seven-year-old Jeremy’s first foray into entrepreneurship ✅  Successfully negotiating the rights to IP he created at Rio Tinto, that he wanted to commercialise after leaving the mining giant ✅  Being fired as CEO from his own company, and returning after working deeply on his inner chief where he is now transforming the real estate industry, and ✅  Recognising that there are different types of CEO that are suited to the various stages of a business.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Jeremy Hastings You can connect with Jeremy via LinkedIn. Books and resources Good to Great - by Jim Collins Team Topologies - by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais Similar Episodes with Startup Founders Mark John, Founder & CEO of frntlne, on partnering with the world’s top performers and business people, what a leader’s natural state is, and feeling lucky every day  Julie Mathers, Founder of Flora & Fauna and CEO of Snuggle Hunny, on being adventurous, bootstrapping a business, and first-mover advantage Mark Calabro, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of HungryHungry and OrderMate, on digitising human-to-human connections, succeeding in two tech startups, using fear of failure to your advantage. Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Are you or someone else owning the developmental pathway for your career?”   Chief, in today’s minisode I’m going to cover how to choose the right course that will significantly boost your career. In today’s busy world, there are just so many options, so it’s incredibly hard to know how to sift out the bad options from the good ones. And then, to compound the challenge, you end up having to commit to something where there is no guarantee!   🎧👉 chiefmaker.com/324 👂   GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview   So today, Chief, we’re going to talk about: ✅  Defining out the step-change performance improvement you need to gain from doing the course ✅  Time management and value for money, and ✅  The 70-20-10 rule of learning.   Stay epic, Greg   Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“We live in this highly overstimulated world, people are rushing to judgement more than ever, people are feeling unheard, and the reality is, they are unheard, because we can't hear them, because we're too busy, too distracted.”   In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Nuala Walsh, Founder & CEO of MindEquity and author of “Tune In”, on the art of decision-making like a ninja, and learning to control your emotions and recognise your biases. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/323  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER GUIDE FOR SENIOR LEADERS ON HOW TO HAVE DIFFICULT PERFORMANCE CONVERSATIONS: chiefmaker.com/difficult   With over 30 years’ experience in FTSE-50 and Fortune 500 financial services firms, Nuala is Founder & CEO of MindEquity Consulting, as well as a Founding Director of the world’s first Global Association of Applied Behavioural Scientists. Prior to that, she was an award-winning Chief Marketing Officer at Standard Life Aberdeen, and has had previous executive roles with Merrill Lynch, BlackRock, and PA Consulting. Today, she sits on multiple Advisory Boards including The British & Irish Lions Rugby Union, Basketball Ireland, and The Innocence Project, is President of The Harvard Club of Ireland, is Deputy Chair of The Football Association’s Inclusion Board, and is a Gender Taskforce Advisor at World Athletics. Listed among the Top 100 Most Influential Women in Finance, she holds degrees in multiple disciplines including a Masters in Behavioural Science from the London School of Economics, a Masters in Business Studies; and a BA in Philosophy. Nuala is a seasoned lecturer and keynote speaker, with her work on behavioural science research published and aired on the Harvard Business Review, TEDx, the Economist, the Telegraph, Forbes, BBC, and Fox Business.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  How choices shape your decision mindset and outcomes ✅  The 2 Systems of thinking and how to optimise them for decision-making scenarios ✅  What you can do to control your emotions such as regret and rage so as to de-risk bad decisions ✅  Recognising your biases, of which there are over 200, and ✅  Why not making a decision, is still a decision!   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Nuala Walsh You can connect with Nuala via LinkedIn. Books and resources How to Overcome Indecision: TEDx talk - by Nuala Walsh Tune In: How to make smarter decisions in a noisy world - by Nuala Walsh Thinking Fast and Slow - by Daniel Kahneman The Power of Regret - by Daniel Pink The Top 5 Regrets of The Dying - by Bronnie Ware Similar Episodes on decision-making Izzy Silva, MD of Wolters Kluwer APAC on Using EQ to good effect, making the vision visible, and data-led decision-making  Nancy Slessenger, Founder and CEO of Vinehouse Hiring on Scientific recruitment, the do’s and don’ts of interviewing, and staff retention Mark Pomeroy, CEO of Pomeroy Pacific on Managing risk, asking great questions, and succeeding in a family business Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 📈 Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA 🎓 Take one of the Chief Maker Academy courses 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“It includes self-reflection as that's not often talked about. Each person should think about their worldview and how it’s been shaped, and how it affects the way they act and behave.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. In this edition of the Mini Chief we feature a snippet from our Best of Series with Isabelle Nüssli, author of the book, “Cockfighting”. Her full episode is titled The CEO-Chairperson relationship and overcoming the drivers of conflict. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/321  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   I interviewed Isabelle for this podcast in 2018. She is the former US CFO and chairperson of the NUSSLI Group, a leading international provider of portable and permanent infrastructures for sport and cultural events like the Olympics. They built the iconic Bondi Beach Volleyball Stadium at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, and have been involved in FIFA World Cups. Isabelle is the author of the Amazon bestselling book “Cockfighting: Solving the Mystery of Unconscious Sabotage at the Top of the Corporate Pyramid“ and “Beyond Corporate Governance”. Drawing on the latest research and interviews with more than 70 chairpersons and CEOs, Cockfighting presents Isabelle's findings on the conscious and unconscious drivers of conflict, and provides invaluable tools for overcoming differences. Isabelle has an MBA from Kellogg School of Management and she also sits on a number of Boards, including as Chairwoman of the European chapter of the Chief Executives Organization.   In the full episode we talk about: ✅  The sheer simplicity and beauty of a handshake, but why you still need a contract ✅  That doubting yourself is absolutely normal, and how to use these thoughts productively ✅  The contradictions of power and its relationship with your actions, and ✅  How she developed the Chairperson-CEO Collaboration Contract to build trust.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Isabelle Nüssli You can reach Isabelle on LinkedIn. Books and resources Cockfighting - by Isabelle Nüssli Beyond Corporate Governance - by Isabelle Nüssli Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 🎧 Subscribe to The Inner Chief Podcast on your favourite app 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“Yeah, it was brutal, a very, very difficult period of my life. I’d hired a lot of people who didn't have technology experience. What I actually did was I set them and the business up for failure.” In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Jeremy Hastings, Founder & Managing Director of both Hutly and Bondable, on being fired from his own company and successfully returning to transform the real estate industry after working on his inner chief. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/322  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   After a career in mining at Rio Tinto, Jeremy experienced his first business success through a gelato shop, which sold 16 tonnes in its second year. Following an unsavoury experience with a crooked real estate agent, Jeremy made it his life’s mission to leverage technology to power a more positive, transparent, and human-centred real estate industry, creating Hutly as the world’s only Living Contracts platform and a place where all parties can transact real estate with trust. He is also the founder of Bondable, Australia’s first subscription-based residential bond service, which launched in 2024. Jeremy went to the University of Canberra, where he studied a Bachelor of Business Administration and a Bachelor of Management. He also has three postgraduate qualifications – a Graduate Certificate in Community Relations (Resources Sector) from the University of Queensland, a Masters of Mining Engineering from UNSW and a Masters of Commercial Law from the University of Melbourne.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  How an accidental guinea pig brood was seven-year-old Jeremy’s first foray into entrepreneurship ✅  Successfully negotiating the rights to IP he created at Rio Tinto, that he wanted to commercialise after leaving the mining giant ✅  Being fired as CEO from his own company, and returning after working deeply on his inner chief where he is now transforming the real estate industry, and ✅  Recognising that there are different types of CEO that are suited to the various stages of a business.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Jeremy Hastings You can connect with Jeremy via LinkedIn. Books and resources Good to Great - by Jim Collins Team Topologies - by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais Similar Episodes with Startup Founders Mark John, Founder & CEO of frntlne, on partnering with the world’s top performers and business people, what a leader’s natural state is, and feeling lucky every day  Julie Mathers, Founder of Flora & Fauna and CEO of Snuggle Hunny, on being adventurous, bootstrapping a business, and first-mover advantage Mark Calabro, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of HungryHungry and OrderMate, on digitising human-to-human connections, succeeding in two tech startups, using fear of failure to your advantage. Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“I knew I was going to be sued by Nike, but I did my research and I knew that they couldn't just come and sue me, they had to issue you a cease and desist.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. This Mini Chief episode features the former CEO of SKINS and now Chair of eo, Jaimie Fuller. His full episode is titled Unlocking the secrets of the world’s greatest athletes and teams, coping with rapid growth, and “persivilience. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/319  👂   GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview   Jaimie has built a successful business career around his greatest passion – sport. He was the CEO of international compression apparel brand SKINS from 1998 to 2019, and he is now Chair and co-founder of eo, an Australian-based sports technology company that is developing a range of products designed to improve performance, accelerate recovery and adaptation, prevent injury, and aid rehabilitation. Jaimie is also a prominent sports activist, initiating campaigns and speaking out against cheating, systemic corruption, homophobia and human rights abuses at the highest levels of several international sports including cycling, football and the Olympics. He is a regular contributor to public forums and conferences around the world, on the role sport can play in helping to change society for the better.   In the full episode we talk about:  ✅  Finding fulfilment by owning SKINS and taking it on an explosive growth trajectory ✅  What he learnt about the inner workings of athletes, their preparation and sacrifices ✅  How great teams set the standards of work ethic and being grounded, and ✅  How his new business eo is accelerating human performance through sport, including the groundbreaking work they are doing on concussion, which has FDA approval..   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Jaimie Fuller You can connect with Jaimie via LinkedIn. Books and resources eo Lab and Library Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“When you start paying attention in a handshake, it actually tells you something about the general openness and willingness to trust, even momentarily.” In this Best of Series episode of The Inner Chief podcast, we feature Isabelle Nüssli, author of the book, “Cockfighting” on the CEO-Chairperson relationship and overcoming the drivers of conflict. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/321  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   I interviewed Isabelle for this podcast in 2018. She is the former US CFO and chairperson of the NUSSLI Group, a leading international provider of portable and permanent infrastructures for sport and cultural events like the Olympics. They built the iconic Bondi Beach Volleyball Stadium at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, and have been involved in FIFA World Cups. Isabelle is the author of the Amazon bestselling book “Cockfighting: Solving the Mystery of Unconscious Sabotage at the Top of the Corporate Pyramid“ and “Beyond Corporate Governance”. Drawing on the latest research and interviews with more than 70 chairpersons and CEOs, Cockfighting presents Isabelle's findings on the conscious and unconscious drivers of conflict, and provides invaluable tools for overcoming differences. Isabelle has an MBA from Kellogg School of Management and she also sits on a number of Boards, including as Chairwoman of the European chapter of the Chief Executives Organization.   In this episode we talk about:  ✅  The sheer simplicity and beauty of a handshake, but why you still need a contract ✅  That doubting yourself is absolutely normal, and how to use these thoughts productively ✅  The contradictions of power and its relationship with your actions, and ✅  How she developed the Chairperson-CEO Collaboration Contract to build trust.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Isabelle Nüssli You can reach Isabelle on LinkedIn. Books and resources Cockfighting - by Isabelle Nüssli Beyond Corporate Governance - by Isabelle Nüssli Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 🎧 Subscribe to The Inner Chief Podcast on your favourite app 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“The reason you want to build a model is because people have all these assumptions that aren't actually true.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. In this edition of the Mini Chief we feature a snippet from our Best of Series with the Chief Science Officer of ACSILabs, Dr Lia DiBello Ph.D. Her full episode is titled Debunking the 10,000 hour mastery rule through accelerated learning, and how this will drastically improve business outcomes. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/318  👂   GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview   I interviewed Lia for this podcast in 2018, when she was the President and CEO of WTRI, an organisation that builds cutting-edge cognitive science into products that can improve performance in business. Currently, she is the Chief Science Officer for ACSILabs. She has developed many innovative non-verbal methods of assessing skill and business judgement among executives, such as the FutureView™ Profiler, which has been recognised as a theoretical and methodological breakthrough in executive intelligence. Lia is best known for the development of an activity-based “strategic rehearsal” that has been shown to greatly accelerate learning through cognitive reorganisation, in some cases by several months. She received her Ph.D in cognitive psychology at CUNY Graduate School in New York, and her work at WTRI has attracted 17 research funding awards from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and The Russell Sage Foundation.   In the full episode we talk about: ✅  Unlocking your potential for accelerated learning ✅  How it is possible to cut the 10,000 hour rule of mastery down to 16 hours in a business context ✅  The number one mistake most leaders make in their learning that is costing them ✅  Using learning to drastically improve business outcomes.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Dr Lia DiBello Ph.D You can reach Lia on LinkedIn. Books and resources Accelerated Expertise: Training for High Proficiency in a Complex World - by Dr Lia DiBello Ph.D The Oxford Handbook of Expertise Research - by Dr Lia DiBello Ph.D Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 🎧 Subscribe to The Inner Chief Podcast on your favourite app 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“By removing 20% of meetings that suck 80% of your energy and attention, you get 20% of your time back immediately, but you also remove 80% of the stuff that's draining you.”   In today’s minisode, I’m going to cover my top 3 tips for beating overwhelm and burnout. Life is fast and it will flash by if you don’t take control of your calendar, whether that be at work, socially or at home. I’m going to give you some immediately actionable strategies to get back on track! 🎧👉 chiefmaker.com/320 👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER GUIDE FOR SENIOR LEADERS ON HOW TO HAVE DIFFICULT PERFORMANCE CONVERSATIONS: chiefmaker.com/difficult   We’re going to talk about: ✅  My regular process of mind mapping and why this works ✅  The science behind getting in - and staying in - flow, and ✅  Owning your time.   Stay epic, Greg   Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“People just want to hear the truth and just want to be talked to as humans by brands.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. This Mini Chief episode features the CEO of Havas Red Australia, Shane Russell. His full episode is titled How to avoid PR disasters through campaigns that build your company brand and customer engagement, and the ever-changing media landscape. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/317  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   Shane is Chief Executive Officer of Havas Red Australia, which merges best-in-class PR, social media, influencer and experiential storytelling, with content at the heart. In a 20+ year PR career that has spanned both Australia and the United States, Shane has a track record for leading high-growth teams and brands that aren’t afraid of taking creative risks.  Through specialised practice areas, Havas Red represents world-class brands across health and wellness, corporate, technology, automotive, travel, and more. For a decade prior to joining Havas Red, Shane served as Executive Vice President at New York-based 5W Public Relations, helping it become one of the largest independent firms in America.   In the full episode we talk about:  ✅  His early years in the PR world and how he strived to be a person of value with some incredibly famous individuals ✅  Taking the plunge by selling everything and moving to New York ✅  How not to stuff up a PR campaign while still standing for causes that are important to you, and ✅  The rapid pace of change in the media world and how to keep adapting.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Shane Russell You can connect with Shane via LinkedIn. Books and resources Red Sky Predictions 2024 - by Havas Red Shoe Dog - by Phil Knight Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“I knew I was going to be sued by Nike, but I did my research and I knew that they couldn't just come and sue me, they had to issue a cease and desist.”   In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Jaimie Fuller, Founder and former CEO of SKINS and now Chair of eo, on unlocking the secrets of the world’s greatest athletes and teams, coping with rapid growth, and “persevilience”.   🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/319  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   Jaimie has built a successful business career around his greatest passion – sport. He was the CEO of international compression apparel brand SKINS from 1998 to 2019, and he is now Chair and co-founder of eo, an Australian-based sports technology company that is developing a range of products designed to improve performance, accelerate recovery and adaptation, prevent injury, and aid rehabilitation. Jaimie is also a prominent sports activist, initiating campaigns and speaking out against cheating, systemic corruption, homophobia and human rights abuses at the highest levels of several international sports including cycling, football and the Olympics. He is a regular contributor to public forums and conferences around the world, on the role sport can play in helping to change society for the better.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  Finding fulfilment by owning SKINS and taking it on an explosive growth trajectory ✅  What he learnt about the inner workings of athletes, their preparation and sacrifices ✅  How great teams set the standards of work ethic and being grounded, and ✅  How his new business eo is accelerating human performance through sport, including the groundbreaking work they are doing on concussion, which has FDA approval.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Jaimie Fuller You can connect with Jaimie via LinkedIn. Books and resources eo Lab and Library Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“How do I make them significant in a business that we only contribute 3 or 4 percent of the revenue? Well, we have the ability to try new things, because if it doesn't work, I'm not going to pull down the whole company.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. This episode features the Managing Director of SAP Concur ANZ, Fabian Calle. His full episode is titled Being agile in a large corporate, leading as an introvert, and the career skills obtained from martial arts. You can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/315  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   Fabian is the Managing Director of SAP Concur, Australia and New Zealand. He has over 15 years’ experience working with SMBs in the computer software industry in a variety of roles at SAP Concur, including: General Manager for SMB; Senior Director of Regional Sales for SMB; and Director of Regional Sales for Enterprises. Fabian’s expertise is in Business Process, Negotiation, Business Planning, Growth, Sales, and Customer Relationship Management (CRM) and has a business degree from Deakin University in Corporate Law, Business Systems and Finance.  Fabian is also a keen martial arts enthusiast, having competed in karate, Muay Thai and Brazilian jiu-jitsu, claiming a national title in the latter only six years after starting.   In this episode we talk about: ✅  How working in the family business making boxes of strawberries for 2 cents each shaped his work ethic ✅  Manifesting agility and ideation in a large corporate organisation - Fabian articulates a wonderful story about creating a new product that led to it being 30% of the SAP global revenue ✅  The exact strategies he uses to manage his energy and get people to follow him as an introvert leader, and ✅  The incredible life and leadership lessons he has learnt from honing his craft as a martial arts competitor. Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Fabian Calle You can connect with Fabian via LinkedIn. Books and resources Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less - by Greg McKeown Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker

“HR is normally an advocate of the employer, normally to the detriment of the employee and I was not that way.”   This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode. In this edition of the Mini Chief we feature a snippet from our Best of Series with the Chief Growth Officer of ACS (Australian Computer Society), Siobhan O’Sullivan. Her full episode is titled Customer experience, looking at yourself in the mirror and accelerating your career and you can find the full audio and show notes here: 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/314  👂   REGISTER INTEREST FOR THE NEXT MINI-MBA INTAKE: chiefmaker.com/minimba   I interviewed Siobhan for this podcast in 2018, when she was the COO of HashChing, Australia’s first mortgage hub. She has since moved on to become the Chief Growth Officer for ACS (Australian Computer Society). Siobhan started her career in Human Resources at Armaguard and then progressed through the ranks of Woolworths and into executive roles as COO of Finware Australia and then CEO of The Mortgage & Finance Association of Australia (MFAA), the peak industry body providing service and representation to more than 12,500 Professional Finance Brokers. She has also been a Director of Running for Premature Babies and is currently on the Board of Wych Money and BrainSTEM Limited. Siobhan has trained in martial arts since she was 8 years old and also holds an MBA from Macquarie Graduate School of Management.   In the full episode we talk about: ✅  How she rose from bluecollar roots to lead one of the most exciting fin-tech businesses ✅  What she learnt from becoming a black belt in multiple martial arts forms, including spending time with a Sixth Dan in the USA ✅  How to stop being a victim and accelerate your career ✅  How to look at the person in the mirror and like what you see.   Deal hope, Greg Connecting with Siobhan O’Sullivan You can reach Siobhan on LinkedIn. Books and resources To grow your career, grow yourself first - by Siobhan O’Sullivan via LinkedIn The Man in the Mirror - by Dale Wimbrow Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 🎧 Subscribe to The Inner Chief Podcast on your favourite app 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker