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Justin, a prolific contributor to the Fedimint open source project, returns for a six month update. Fedimint is an open protocol providing easy to use, private, programmable, and offline bitcoin payments using bitcoin powered federated chaumian ecash.Justin on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqspg8fq209jj56663d2n6r9ehkyjffy7rkqqejfdwvtwzva426avkqxtxxuvFedimint Website: https://fedimint.org/Fedimint on X: https://x.com/fedimintThe Ecash App: https://ecash.love/Fedimint Observer: https://observer.fedimint.org/ Bitcoin Mints: https://bitcoinmints.com/Iroh: https://www.iroh.computer/EPISODE: 198BLOCK: 944073PRICE: 1466 sats per dollar(02:06) Justin on Fedimint updates since last visit(03:20) Ecash App vision as a Fedimint reference client(04:18) Wallet features: on-chain, lightning, ecash, and nostr integrations(06:01) Fedimint 101: federations, guardians, and multisig trust model(07:55) Uptime vs. rug risk and Byzantine fault tolerance in practice(09:18) Making guardianship easier and raising operational reliability(10:14) Ecash App status, platforms, backups via nostr, and seed UX(13:16) Mint/federation selection challenges and web-of-trust ideas(15:39) Observability tools and on-chain vs. Lightning differences(16:20) Running a Guardian on Start9: setup and backups(19:39) Networking with Iroh: DNS removal, privacy, and Tor/VPN plans(23:14) Lightning gateways: roles, trust, liquidity, and multi-federation ops(27:59) Gateway UX: multiple gateways, auto-switching, and agents help(29:01) Gateway pairing and funding flows for Start9 deployments(32:24) Guardians on Android phones: why, how, and trade-offs(37:30) Blockchain backends: Bitcoin Core vs. Esplora defaults(39:30) Mobile data, heat, and practical considerations(39:34) Agentic payments and why eCash fits well for agents(43:40) Local communities, AI models, and community services vision(46:06) Real-world adoption, roadmap, modules, and BOLT12 plans(48:50) BOLT12 receive-side challenges and trust model nuances(50:26) Pragmatic trust, permissioned gateways, and next steps(50:37) How listeners can help and contact info(51:18) Start9 v0.4.0 update chatter and flashing war stories(53:01) Closing thoughts, progress praise, and sign-offmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyzmonitor the situation: https://citadelwire.com
Matt Ahlborg, founder of PPQ.ai, rejoins the show for an update on the rapidly evolving AI landscape. PayPerQ is a bitcoin enabled ai platform that enables users to easily use all of the top ai tools without an account. Users pay per use with bitcoin and can switch the models they use on the fly without needing to provide an email address, phone number, or billing address. We discuss the rise of lean teams supercharged by AI tools, the subscription vs. pay-per-token model debate, and why massive subsidies from companies like Anthropic and OpenAI likely will not last. Ahlborg breaks down PPQ's "AutoClaw" smart routing feature that blends cheap and expensive models to cut costs, the addition of secure enclave models for privacy conscious users, and how OpenClaw's explosion drove a 400% revenue increase for PPQ.PayPerQ: https://ppq.ai/PayPerQ on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsdy27dk8f9qk7qvrm94pkdtus9xtk970jpcp4w48k6cw0khfm06mss64u96PayPerQ on X: https://x.com/PPQdotAI Matt on X: https://x.com/MattAhlborgEPISODE: 197BLOCK: 942174PRICE: 1412 sats per dollar(00:02:57) Matt Ahlborg of PPQ.ai and the fast pace of AI(00:04:48) Early‑AI "Wild West": workflows, tiny teams, and hiring realities(00:07:58) Who benefits most from AI? Devs, non‑devs, and the humility to learn(00:13:00) Two ways to use AI: locked‑in subscriptions vs pay‑per‑token sovereignty(00:17:46) Business model nuance: subsidies, vendor lock‑in, and PPQ margins(00:21:00) Open models improve but show limits under real workloads(00:23:29) AutoClaw smart routing: mixing cheap and premium models(00:27:12) Routing tradeoffs: cost, competence, latency, and "quarterback" models(00:31:13) Secure enclaves and privacy: running models in TEEs(00:38:00) OpenClaw agents: promise, bugs, and the personal AI assistant future(00:41:22) Building a personalized AI newswire with Nostr and RSS(00:51:02) Payments debate: Bitcoin first vs accepting everything(00:58:03) Comparing PPQ and Venice: tokens, privacy claims, and incentives(01:02:10) Usage data: what users pay with and which models they choose(01:08:16) Runaway costs and safeguards: spending limits and lessons(01:08:40) Agentic payments and L402: where Lightning fits vs x402 vs MPP(01:15:10) Closing thoughts and what’s next for PPQ.aimore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyzmonitor the situation: https://citadelwire.com
Evgeny is the founder of SimpleX Chat, a private and secure comms protocol that has a radically different approach to the concept of user identity.  We discuss how SimpleX's unique transport network assigns addresses to connections instead of endpoints, why MLS is flawed, the upcoming scalable channels feature to compete with Telegram, and how the network plans to sustain itself through a model where large channels fund infrastructure. No phone numbers.  Private and secure. Open and scalable.Personal blog: https://www.poberezkin.com Official website: https://simplex.chatSimpleX on Nostr: https://primal.net/simplex SimpleX on X: https://x.com/SimpleXChat EPISODE: 196BLOCK: 941454PRICE: 1432 sats per dollar(00:02:56) Introducing SimpleX and why Signals model falls short(00:04:48) What is SimpleX? Sovereignty and trustless design principles(00:09:21) Privacy as prerequisite for speech and society(00:13:04) From messenger to scalable channels and Telegram comparisons(00:17:27) Content privacy vs participation privacy in large groups(00:23:30) Removing identity(00:24:32) Transport layer innovation: addressing connections, not endpoints(00:29:09) SimpleX Chat as first app and platform on the network(00:30:25) Agents, AI, and commerce inside messaging(00:32:43) Routers: resource needs and the trust model(00:36:14) Operator diversity and Tor comparisons(00:40:15) Packet level anonymity vs persistent circuits(00:41:39) Discovery and first contact: addresses, reply paths, UX(00:43:09) Groups at scale, MLS critique, and Signals approach(00:48:00) SimpleX groups today and upcoming channel relays(00:52:30) Verifiability, signed actions, and deniability tradeoffs(01:01:02) Authenticity for public speech in a deepfake era(01:02:01) Incentivizing infrastructure: beyond hobby servers(01:08:10) Why premium app models fail; web monetization analogy(01:11:00) Channels as websites: who pays and why(01:14:34) For profit vs nonprofit: incentives, governance, and scale(01:21:16) Consortium governance and resisting capture(01:27:41) Lessons from the web: speed, innovation, and standards(01:33:06) Privacy tech adoption realities and movement unity(01:34:36) Monetization mechanics: registries, naming, and smart contracts(01:39:54) Programmatic revenue sharing and prepaid credits(01:52:18) Choosing chains and assets: centralization vs volatility(01:55:09) Prototype first, prove market fit, then harden design(01:59:00) Motivation: restoring private communication at scale(02:00:12) Next steps: consortium, crowdfunding, and closingmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyzmonitor the situation: https://citadelwire.com
Lea is the cofounder of Vexl, a mobile app enabling convenient p2p no kyc bitcoin trading. We discuss Vexl's unique reputation model based on real-world social graphs, how they minimize fraud without requiring identity verification, the challenges of Apple App Store censorship, the launch of a Freedom Tech alternative app store in the EU, Vexl Club for Bitcoin meetup communities, the origin of the name "Vexl" from Czech black market currency exchangers during the Soviet era, and the importance of funding open source freedom tech projects. We also touch on mesh networks, the upcoming Freedom Tech Summit in Prague, and how meetup organizers can bootstrap local P2P trading communities.Vexl: https://vexl.it Freedom Store: https://freedomstore.io Freedom Tech Summit: https://freedomtechsummit.com BTCPrague: https://btcprague.comLea on X: https://x.com/LeaPetras Vexl on X: https://x.com/vexl Vexl on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsd54k9fd0xwjwkttgr3svkg7reftu5una95nhacg95nxq7fmzkdscsu3t66 Freedom Tech Summit on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsdw8j9rfn8jcsz4v9f3xr4637sfnrvxgu84v74jw3pkaf99pe7hrqzqw9mj Freedom Tech Summit on X: https://x.com/FreedomTechSum EPISODE: 195BLOCK: 940918PRICE: 1355 sats per dollar(00:02:32) CitadelWire.com and CitadelArcade.com(00:03:03) Lea on Vexl and P2P no-KYC vision(00:04:04) Back to Satoshi’s intent: Vexl as peer-to-peer cash(00:06:04) Vexl’s social-graph reputation: friends and friends-of-friends(00:08:38) UX over ideology: convenience as privacy’s path to scale(00:10:08) The fiat side: cash first, local rails, and fraud mitigation(00:13:30) Trust loops: verifying via mutual contacts and in‑person trades(00:16:34) Network hygiene: feedback, shadow bans, and policing offers(00:19:06) Sustainability: foundations, grants, and why no monetization(00:24:41) Trezor ties: origins with Slush & Stick, resources, and separation(00:27:06) Mobile-first pragmatism and why desktop-only won’t scale(00:28:00) EU FreedomStore: bypassing Apple(00:31:00) Android distribution, APKs, and meeting users where they are(00:33:02) TestFlight limits and PWA tradeoffs for iOS(00:35:16) App Store bottlenecks, vibe coding, and free‑market pressure(00:38:17) Freedom Tech Summit in Prague (June 10)(00:41:11) Prague(00:42:22) Mesh networks: MeshCore, Meshtastic, Reticulum(00:44:58) Momentum and crypto‑anarchy: is this the year?(00:45:26) Bootstrapping Vexl: network effects and how to help(00:52:24) Meetups as engines: users and liquidity providers(00:53:26) Vexl Club: invite‑code communities for meetups(00:57:00) How Vexl Club works: privacy, codes, and self‑policing(01:00:46) Name origin: Soviet‑era street exchange(01:02:43) KPIs and dreams: “to Vexl it” and street price discoverymore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyzmonitor the situation: https://citadelwire.comcitadel games: https://citadelarcade.com
Scott, cofounder of SideSwap, joins the show to talk about what his team has been quietly building in the Liquid ecosystem. We cover SideSwap's atomic swap markets, their peg-in/peg-out service, and how partners like Aqua Wallet are plugging into their infrastructure. Scott breaks down the new Liquid Connect feature, their first Simplicity based binary outcome contracts on Swaption, and the roadmap toward Bitcoin native prediction markets on Liquid. We also get into Liquid's privacy advantages over Tron and Ethereum for Tether users, the surprising growth of the Brazilian stablecoin dePix, the federation trust model debate, and why liquid adoption has been slow but may finally be turning a corner.Sideswap: https://sideswap.ioSwaption: https://swaption.ioLiquid Explorer: https://liquid.networkTether Stats: https://usdt.networkSideswap on X: https://x.com/side_swapEPISODE: 194BLOCK: 940011PRICE: 1452 sats per dollar(03:00) Introducing Scott and Sideswap(05:01) Non‑custodial swaps, peg‑in/peg‑out, and order books(08:08) Liquidity on Liquid: USDT vs. dePix in Brazil(10:03) Market making tools and dealer participation(11:58) Why Liquid adoption lagged and what may change(14:08) Confidential transactions, Tether on Liquid, and privacy gains(18:10) USDT on Liquid: issuance, custody patterns, and censorship resistance(21:08) Prediction markets on Liquid: vision and building blocks(24:46) Designing binary contracts and oracle models(28:54) Trust models: Liquid federation vs. alt L2s(33:29) Pragmatism in scaling: Spark, Phoenix, and layered ledgers(36:33) Liquid Wallet Connect and Swaption MVP(41:13) Ecosystem growth, integrations, and Brazil network effects(43:19) Simplicity on Liquid: why it matters for Bitcoiners(46:26) Calls to action: try swaps, order books, and Swaption(50:31) User experience: Lightning vs. Liquid in practice(52:41) AI agents and potential Liquid use cases(54:46) Roadmap: Satoshi Dice, oracles, and a Polymarket‑style proof of conceptmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyzmonitor the situation: https://citadelwire.com
FIPS is an open source mesh networking project that enables devices to connect directly to each other without relying on any central servers or infrastructure. Today's internet depends on companies and governments that can monitor, censor, or shut down communication at will. FIPS solves this by giving every node a cryptographic identity and encrypting all traffic automatically, so no one in the middle can see or block what you're doing. Nodes discover each other and route messages through the mesh on their own, and regular apps like browsers and SSH clients work on top of it without any special setup.Arjen on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1hw6amg8p24ne08c9gdq8hhpqx0t0pwanpae9z25crn7m9uy7yarse465grJonathan on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub19wavu4f7l6l43h24jyskn7fvzy37kcfp67aqjtmv2qgy4lp34nhsda8p6k FIPS Repo: https://gitworkshop.dev/npub1y0gja7r4re0wyelmvdqa03qmjs62rwvcd8szzt4nf4t2hd43969qj000ly/relay.ngit.dev/fips Tollgate: https://tollgate.meSovereign Engineering: https://sovereignengineering.io/ EPISODE: 193BLOCK: 939631PRICE:  1465 sats per dollar(02:03) Introducing FIPS and the goal of a middleman free internet(04:16) Why static IPs fail for hosting and how FIPS reframes identity(05:51) Decoupling transport and routing: protocol-agnostic design(06:50) Peer discovery across Wi‑Fi, Bluetooth, and local broadcast(07:43) Future global routing ideas and decentralized discovery(09:05) Local mesh handshakes, Noise encryption, and Bloom filters(11:02) Community meshes, resilience, and mixed transports(11:42) Starlink and bridging meshes over the wider internet(13:21) Use case: protest resilience and reconnecting to the world(14:08) Origins: conferences, Sovereign Engineering, and NoDNS(16:04) From NoDNS to FIPS: faster updates, remaining gaps(17:10) Economics: sats for peering and incentive-aware routing(18:00) Abuse, DDoS surfaces, and defenses via npubs and rate limits(19:45) Learning from mesh hype cycles and bootstrapping adoption(22:32) Lowering app friction: make existing apps work over FIPS(25:12) DNS trick: IPv6 mapping and transparent transport(27:08) Backwards compatibility as a must-have for scale(28:08) Rethinking data flow with Nostr streams and local hosting(30:12) Offline-to-online spectrum and graceful reconciliation(31:10) Status update: early servers, testers, and bandwidth limits(32:20) Physical constraints: MTU, Bluetooth, LoRa(36:00) Reality checks: pitfalls, past meshes, and expectations(38:12) New primitives: Nostr, Blossom, eCash; Jonathan’s role(40:37) Identity concerns, key rotation, and operational practices(46:10) Hosting sensitive services: hot keys(48:09) Self-hosting privately, Tor comparisons, and latency(49:37) Observation, Tollgate incentives, and community privacy(50:40) Tollgate legal concerns and community norms(53:21) Call to action, testing FIPS, and packaging plans(55:10) Closing thoughtsmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Routstr is an open marketplace for ai compute, powered by nostr and bitcoin.Routstr: https://routstr.comChat app: https://chat.routstr.comOpenclaw setup: https://routstr.com/openclawRun a Routstr node and earn sats: https://github.com/Routstr/routstr-coreGithub: https://github.com/Routstr Routstr on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub130mznv74rxs032peqym6g3wqavh472623mt3z5w73xq9r6qqdufs7ql29sEvan on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1u37h8rhgm9f95d90lpk2afw8h4t75kf6w8vmga2zz9jsx3atzpuqlmw8vyRedshift on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1ftt05tgku25m2akgvw6v7aqy5ux5mseqcrzy05g26ml43xf74nyqsredshThefux on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1ygjd597hdwu8larprmhj893d5p832j5mhejpx40ukezgudvayg9qeklajcShroominic on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub18gr2m5cflkzpn6jdfer4a8qdlavsn334m9mfhurjsge08grg82zq6hu9suEPISODE: 192BLOCK: 939283PRICE:  1368 sats per dollar(00:03:02) Routstr and the team(00:07:24) What is Routstr?(00:10:26) Proxy providers, proprietary models, and pricing dynamics(00:13:16) Discovery, reviews, and quality signaling on Nostr(00:16:07) Fees, sustainability, and open source funding models(00:21:32) OpenClaw, LNVPS, and one-click sovereign stack(00:25:27) Why Nostr is ideal for agents vs. closed platforms(00:33:00) Crowdzapping, bounties, and agents building public goods(00:38:02) Agent specialization, cost tiers, and future routing(00:45:31) Resilience: routing around outages and pay-per-request(00:48:12) Self-host vs. marketplaces, selling spare compute(00:54:00) AI compute meets Bitcoin mining and energy realities(00:56:50) Hardware choices: Mac minis, old PCs, and VPS security(00:59:10) Linux advantage and agents removing UX friction(01:00:24) Open chat protocols, Marmot, and agentic comms(01:03:54) Acceleration, small teams with many agents shipping fast(01:04:19) Closing thoughts from the Routstr teammore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Justin Moon leads the open source ai initiative at the Human Rights Foundation.Justin on Nostr: https://primal.net/justinmoonHuman Rights Foundation: https://hrf.org/program/ai-for-individual-rights/Easy Open Claw Deployment: https://clawi.ai/EPISODE: 191BLOCK: 936962PRICE:  1473 sats per dollar(00:01:35) Justin Moon and early show memories(00:03:52) OpenClaw(00:04:16) Agents change how we use computers(00:07:07) OpenClaws light bulb moment(00:09:25) Agents as UX glue for Freedom Tech(00:10:00) HRF AI work, self-hosting breakthrough, and running your own stack(00:12:50) AI simplifies hard Bitcoin UX: coin control, backups, photos(00:14:22) OpenClaw + OpenAI: does it matter?(00:16:01) AI leverage for builders: open protocols win(00:19:22) Positive feedback loop: agents and open protocols(00:20:14) Costs vs privacy: local models, token spend, and KYC walls(00:23:15) Local hardware economics and historical parallels(00:27:20) Will capability gaps narrow? Mobile and on-device futures(00:29:56) Cutting-edge vs private setups; data lock-in and training moats(00:31:53) Competition, regulation risks, and hidden capabilities(00:34:05) Chinas open models: incentives, biases, and global adoption(00:38:56) American and European open models; Big Tech dynamics(00:40:56) Apple, hardware positioning, and agent UX form factors(00:42:48) Googles advantage: data, integration, and vertical stack(00:44:32) Acceleration ahead: productivity leaps and societal shifts(00:45:21) Jobs, layoffs, and disruptive labor realignment(00:47:55) From global commons to gated neighborhoods: bots and slop(00:50:21) Nostr as local internet: webs of trust and bot filters(00:51:57) Cancel culture contagion and shrinking public square(00:54:59) Demographic decentralization and small-town resilience(00:55:00) Lean platforms: X/Twitter staffing as canary(00:56:59) Universal high income: incentives and realism(00:58:48) Prepare your household: seize tools, avoid flat feet(01:01:01) Marmot DMs over Nostr: agents need open messaging(01:03:11) Building Pika: encrypted chat and voice over Marmot(01:07:00) Generative UI and real-time media over Nostr(01:10:07) APIs, bans, and why open protocols become the convenient path(01:14:02) Future gates: Bitcoin paywalls, webs of trust, or dystopian KYC(01:17:19) Getting started: try OpenClaw safely and learn by play(01:22:14) Agents, Cashu, and Lightning UX: bots as channel managers(01:25:10) Federations run by machines? Enclaves and AI guardians(01:27:50) Maple, Vora, and bringing self-sovereign AI to mainstream(01:29:00) Security kudos and caveats; Coinbase and cold storage(01:30:02) Justins education plan and upcoming streamsmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Alex Gleason was one of the main architects behind Donald Trump's Truth Social. Now he focuses on the intersection of nostr, ai, and bitcoin. We explore open source ai agents, such as OpenClaw, and the wider implications of the tech.Alex on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhggpt7fyClawstr: https://clawstr.com/Soapbox Tools: https://soapbox.pub/toolsMy bot's nostr account: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsfzaahg24yf7kujwrzje8rwa7xmt359tf9zyyjeczc9dhll30k8pgmlfee2 EPISODE: 190BLOCK: 935786PRICE:  1422 sats per dollar(00:02:30) Value-for-value, no sponsors, and show philosophy(00:02:39) Alex Gleason returns to talk AI(00:03:56) From vibe coding to open-source agents with memory(00:05:24) Messaging-first UX: Signal, Nostr, WhatsApp as AI interfaces(00:06:10) Why chatbots beat traditional AI apps for mainstream users(00:07:07) Open protocols pain vs closed platforms; Bitcoin and Nostr(00:08:52) Automating social games: price tracker and agent posting on Nostr(00:10:01) AI mediators for collective action, constitutions, and nonprofits(00:11:46) Scaling governance: trust, bias, and Discord vs freedom tech(00:13:14) Bot barriers on centralized messengers and need for open chat(00:14:04) Clawstr: decentralized AI-to-AI discussions on Nostr(00:15:21) Hype vs reality in AI agents; emergent behaviors and money(00:16:26) Agentic payments: bots with Cashu wallets and earnings(00:18:40) Agents solving UX pain: relay management, keys, and UTXOs(00:20:00) Cold storage approvals with chat agents: a new wallet paradigm(00:20:22) Specialized agents, skills, and distribution challenges(00:22:34) Cost tradeoffs: pay another agent vs build skills yourself(00:24:55) Token burn lessons(00:27:44) Beyond OpenClaw: bloated stacks, Icarus, and cost-optimized agents(00:28:52) Hybrid model routing: local small models with cloud for heavy lifts(00:29:47) Agents paying humans directly: disintermediating platforms(00:30:47) Voice, screens, and form factors: AirPods, text, and brain chips(00:33:01) Apple, privacy branding, and the Siri gap(00:34:35) Enterprise AI choices: Google, Microsoft, trust, and lock-in(00:36:01) Model personalities: Gemini concerns and OpenAI "openwashing"(00:37:23) Obvious agent UX wins: flights, rides, and social media shifts(00:38:50) Local-first social: group chats, neighbors, and healthier networks(00:40:16) Antiprimal.net: standardizing stats from Primal's caching server(00:43:34) Open specs, documentation via AI, and trust tradeoffs(00:45:18) Indexes vs client-side scans: performance and verification(00:46:20) APIs, rate limits, and a market for paid Nostr data(00:47:57) Agents and DVMs: paying sats for services on demand(00:48:49) Degenerate bots: LN Markets, costs, and Polymarket curiosity(00:50:42) Truth feeds for agents: Nostr, webs of trust, and OSINT sources(00:53:51) Post-truth reality: verification, signatures, and subjectivity(00:56:04) Polymarket mechanics: on-chain prediction markets and signals(01:00:10) Trading perception vs truth; sports markets as timelines(01:01:45) The Clawstr token saga: hype, claims, and misinformation(01:07:11) Why meme coins are scams: no equity, utility myths, slow rugs(01:08:55) Pulling the rug back: swapping out, fallout, and donations(01:10:49) Aftermath: donating to OpenSats and lessons learned(01:12:14) Prediction markets vs meme coins: societal value distinction(01:15:25) Iterating beyond OpenClaw and MoltBook; experiments on Nostr(01:18:00) Do bots need Clawstr? Segregating AI content and labels(01:21:02) Reverse CAPTCHA: proving bot-ness and the honor system(01:23:38) Souls, prompts, and token costs; agents with personalities(01:27:01) Wrap-up: acceleration, optimism, and next check-in(01:28:21) Open-source models, China’s incentives, and local hardware(01:30:06) The dream stack: home server agent, Nostr chat, hybrid modelsmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Carel van Wyk is the founder and CEO of MoneyBadger. MoneyBadger enables easy bitcoin payments at 650 thousand stores in South Africa. MoneyBadger on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsz85k206vm3vqdmlvcy9l4kyfqchlnf4hnctasxufa3ph0ck9decgpk49rf MoneyBadger on X: https://x.com/MoneyBadgerPayWesbite: https://www.moneybadger.co.za/EPISODE: 189BLOCK: 933542PRICE:  1112 sats per dollar(00:03:26) What is Money Badger? Mission and merchant focus(00:05:13) Paying anywhere in South Africa(00:05:27) 650,000 locations(00:07:04) Leveraging existing QR payment rails and the Pick n Pay breakthrough(00:10:01) How the flow works: bridging proprietary QR to Lightning(00:11:18) MoneyBadger app as translator vs. using any Lightning wallet(00:13:04) Fiat settlement, volatility handling, and business model(00:17:07) Why no Money Badger wallet? Integrations with Blink, Zeus, Aqua(00:20:20) A clever LNURL/Lightning Address pattern to decode merchant QRs(00:23:39) Pragmatic, a bit hacky, and works across wallets(00:28:04) Replicability beyond SA: Kenya’s M‑Pesa, Ghana, Latin America(00:32:10) Creating demand: Bitcoin Ekasi as proof-of-use for Pick n Pay(00:35:15) Real usage: growth to ~5k tx/month and $200k volume(00:39:40) Who spends Bitcoin? From cash users to OGs and ideologues(00:42:34) Incentives and the challenge of moving the middle(00:43:42) Tax context in South Africa: capital gains thresholds(00:46:59) UX talk: tap-to-pay vs. QR, hardware realities and patience(00:49:12) Beyond POS: treasury, suppliers, and stablecoin pull(00:51:03) Bitcoin vs. stablecoins in SA usage; Luno/Binance integrations(00:55:07) Wild flexibility: paying with almost any token via partners(00:57:46) Urgency to prove Bitcoin as money before it’s siloed(00:58:00) Hypothetical: Square/Cash App design vs. bridge approach(01:03:41) Consumer friction at checkout and signaling acceptance(01:07:38) Tipping, bridges to Venmo/Cash App, and cash realities(01:09:19) Call to action: spend Bitcoin to create demand(01:11:08) Wrap-up: plans to visit SA, links, and farewellmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Matt Corallo has been a bitcoin developer for nearly fifteen years. We discuss his views on the recent bitcoin core bug, the proposed us clarity act, and the risks/mitigations of quantum computing.Corallo on Nostr: https://primal.net/mattcorallo Corallo on X: https://x.com/TheBlueMattSave our Wallets: https://SaveOurWallets.orgTen31 Quantum Report: https://www.ten31.xyz/insights/quantum-computing-bitcoin-securityEPISODE: 188BLOCK: 932276PRICE: 1030 sats per dollar(00:03:37) Bitcoin Core legacy wallet migration bug(00:07:41) Backups, edge cases, and defensive coding culture(00:07:58) Clarity Act and developer protections: SaveOurWallets.org(00:10:19) Self-custody legal clarity(00:13:12) Partisan Bitcoin ownership data(00:14:43) Surveillance and KYC/AML tightening concerns(00:20:43) Quantum threat framing and scope(00:22:10) Seed phrases enable quantum-safe proofs via hashes(00:24:58) What quantum breaks: exposed public keys, Taproot, and address reuse(00:31:21) Design choices hinge on whether insecure spend paths are frozen(00:33:43) Options: backup TapLeaf, new address types, and fee/UX tradeoffs(00:36:14) Opt-in Taproot versioning to signal post-quantum readiness(00:38:07) Adoption reality: wallet support, privacy impacts, and rollout pace(00:39:34) Freeze-or-not debate: social contract, market dynamics, forks(00:43:56) Public vs. secret quantum progress: who gets there first?(00:47:06) Fork economics: supply shocks, Satoshis coins, and market choice(00:55:01) In-system vs. out-of-system theft; why quantum is different(01:10:01) Preparing pragmatically: give future users post-quantum options(01:24:28) Timelines and hype: where quantum computing really stands(01:29:00) Final takeaways: no panicmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Anjan Sundaram is an independent journalist, author, and founder of the Stringer Foundation with a mission to expand global independent journalism. We discuss his work and how open protocols, such as bitcoin and nostr, empower journalists.Anjan on Nostr: https://primal.net/anjansun Anjan on X: https://x.com/anjansunStringer Foundation on X: https://stringerjournalism.org/EPISODE: 187BLOCK: 928149PRICE: 1140 sats per dollar(00:03:09) Anjan’s path: from Yale and Goldman Sachs to war reporting(00:06:07) How war reporting is changing in the age of social media(00:10:32) What makes a journalist? Raw footage vs. verified reporting(00:14:00) Publishing pathways, bylines, pay, and lack of safety nets(00:18:12) Fixing incentives: philanthropy, prizes, and media economics(00:21:00) Turning down quant life: the Goldman Sachs detour(00:23:07) Values alignment: finance, bitcoin, and free information flows(00:24:49) Bloomberg, Substack, and sustainability(00:26:19) Designing the Stringer Prize: credibility, juries, and impact(00:29:39) Launching Stringer: partners, applications, and endowment plan(00:32:10) Why pay in bitcoin: global payouts, fees, and onboarding stories(00:35:33) Grants to awards pipeline and the courage index(00:41:01) Lean ops vs. big charity: publicity without bloat(00:43:59) The tenure problem: long-term support without dependency(00:48:26) Transformative fellowships: MacArthur model and global gaps(00:51:30) Journalism’s core: elevating humane, inspiring stories(00:53:10) Value-for-value, Nostr, and building ad-free media(00:58:24) Own your audience: platforms vs. protocols(01:02:30) Bootstrapping Nostr: network effects and onboarding journalists(01:05:13) Building a global home for independent journalists(01:06:07) The drought in investigative reporting and who funds itmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
John Arnold is a colleague of mine at Ten31, we are five man team focused on investing in and supporting the best bitcoin businesses globally. This is our third quarterly update where we cover current market dynamics and our outlook.More info on Ten31: https://www.ten31.xyzQuantum: https://www.ten31.xyz/insights/quantum-computing-bitcoin-securityNote: AnchorWatch does not use taproot. I was mistaken.John on Nostr: https://primal.net/johnJohn on X: https://x.com/JohnArnoldTen31Ten31 on X: https://x.com/ten31fundsEPISODE: 186BLOCK: 927606PRICE: 1108 sats per dollar(00:07:01) Four Year Cycles: Liquidity vs. halving(00:12:21) Market manipulation?(00:13:53) Day vs. night: IBIT hours, ETFs, stay humble and stack sats(00:16:40) Premarket/postmarket liquidity and trading(00:16:47) Quantum: FUD Rising(00:24:03) Address types at risk: P2PK, P2PKH race, Taproot exposure(00:25:11) Practical mitigations(00:27:28) Long-range vs. short-range quantum attacks and feasibility(00:28:40) Reality check: scaling physical QC and secrecy constraints(00:31:01) Coordination and upgrade paths: post-quantum options(00:33:30) Social contract: no seizure of old coins(00:36:25) Did quantum FUD drive the drawdown?(00:40:00) Why gold and silver are at highs while Bitcoin lags(00:51:06) Mega-cap tech as the new savings account and TINA(00:57:36) Fed cuts, QT ends, QE or not semantics, and Bitcoins response(01:07:00) Looking ahead: more cuts, policy path, and 2026 setup(01:13:01) Giga-bullish case: scarce assets vs. fiscal-monetary impulse(01:16:03) Gold vs. Bitcoin for individuals and sovereigns(01:20:02) Counterparty risk with ETFs and the case for self-custody(01:26:12) Bottom in? Price targets, humility, and risk management(01:30:29) USD tokens (stablecoins): growth, limits, and policy aims(01:35:04) Tethers dominance, gold tokens, and a silver tangent(01:41:03) Closing thoughts: on-chain flows, whos buying, and sign-offmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Rob is the creator of Kyoto, an implementation of compact block filters that makes it easier for developers to build more private bitcoin wallets. Andreas is the creator of Bitcoin Safe, an app designed to make it easier to use hardware wallets securely.Andreas on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsqd0y6klqxew4glwggn63jvumrgprnl32tw7hpuzfhv6msgf7y3agm756qu Bitcoin Safe on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsyz7tjgwuarktk88qvlnkzue3ja52c3e64s7pcdwj52egphdfll0cq9934g Bitcoin Safe on X: https://x.com/BitcoinSafeOrgKyoto on Github: https://github.com/rustaceanrob/kyoto2140: https://2140.devEPISODE: 185BLOCK: 926163PRICE: 1099 sats per dollar(00:03:04) Bitcoin Dev Kit(00:04:39) Andreas (Bitcoin Safe) and Rob (Kyoto)(00:05:58) What is BDK? Goals, safety, and language bindings(00:09:27) Why BDK matters for UX, testing, and reliability(00:09:50) Kyoto origin story and compact block filters vision(00:13:21) Privacy model: servers vs. compact block filters(00:19:39) Do compact block filters work on mobile? Performance tradeoffs(00:23:55) Kyoto as a Rust reference client for BIP157/158(00:24:35) Bitcoin Safe overview: desktop cold storage with hardware signers(00:25:40) Using compact block filters in Bitcoin Safe: initial sync vs. daily speed(00:28:27) Why connect your own node and peer pools for CBF(00:33:14) Design choice: hardware-only wallets and setup wizard(00:36:29) Differentiating from Sparrow: private sync and Nostr-based multisig coordination(00:39:08) Will Sparrow adopt compact block filters? Considerations and UX(00:48:49) Developer ecosystems: 2140, OpenSats, and in-person collaboration(00:50:38) Making CBF the default: UX, education, and recovery flow(00:52:56) Electrum server defaults and operational notes(00:53:50) Birth heights, segwit/taproot start points, and future optimizations(00:56:17) Address reuse, scanning guarantees, and performance benchmarks(01:00:13) Bandwidth vs. compute: where the real bottlenecks are(01:00:19) Closing discussion, calls to action, and advice for new devsmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyznostr: https://primal.net/odell
Calle is the creator and lead maintainer of the Cashu open source protocol. Cashu enables users to easily use bitcoin in a private, offline, and programmable way. Calle is also the maintainer of Bitchat android, a cross platform meshnet app that enables users to chat and send bitcoin without an internet connection.Calle on Nostr: https://primal.net/calleCalle on X: https://x.com/callebtcBitchat: https://bitchat.free/Cashu: https://cashu.space/Hackathon: https://nutnovember.org/AOS: https://andotherstuff.org/EPISODE: 184BLOCK: 925030PRICE: 1126 sats per dollar(00:04:44) Bitchat: Bluetooth Mesh Without Internet(00:06:21) Protests and Outages Drive Downloads: Nepal, Indonesia, Madagascar, Côte d’Ivoire, Jamaica(00:09:51) Predicting Unrest from Download Spikes(00:14:27) Adding Nostr Transport: Hyperlocal Mesh vs. Geohash Chats(00:18:03) Geolocated Relay Selection(00:23:56) Ephemeral Identity, UX, and Censorship Considerations(00:28:37) Mesh Upgrades: Voice, Images, Files, Source Routing like Tor(00:30:23) WiFi Aware Mesh and Background Operation to Boost Range and Uptime(00:34:15) White Noise vs. Bitchat(00:40:00) Protocols and Transports: Weaving White Noise, Cashu, and Bitchat(00:43:48) Transport Neutral Design: Cashu and Nostr(00:45:57) Cashu Progress: Shipping Libraries, Dev Ecosystem Growth(00:51:18) We Need More Bitcoin Devs(00:53:08) Integrating Cashu into BitChat: Wallet UX and Local Payments(00:57:17) Running Mints: Spark, Ark, and Proof of Reserves/Liabilities(01:03:40) Layered Scaling Without Consensus Changes: Ark, Spark, Cashu(01:04:18) Bitcoin for Signal: Replacing MobileCoin with Cashu(01:13:32) Why Cashu for Signal? Privacy and Scaling(01:22:31) Mint Choice vs. Simplicity: Defaults, Lightning Interoperability, and UX(01:32:21) Focus on Financial Privacy for the Masses, not Distractions(01:37:11) Zcash Hype Dismissed; Call to Build on Bitcoin(01:39:26) Nut November Hackathon and How to Contribute to Bitchat and Cashu(01:45:06) Happy Thanksgivingmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyznostr: https://primal.net/odell
NVK is CoFounder of Coinkite, the makers of Coldcard. Coldcards are designed to help users securely use bitcoin offline. We discuss the variety of features that Coldcards provide users and the tradeoffs present when choosing how to best secure bitcoin.Disclosure: Ten31 is the exclusive investor in Coinkite.my easy coldcard guide: https://werunbtc.com/coldcardNVK on Nostr: https://primal.net/nvkNVK on X: https://x.com/nvkCoinkite:  https://coinkite.com/Ten31: https://www.ten31.xyz/Cove Wallet: https://covebitcoinwallet.com/Sparrow Wallet: https://sparrowwallet.com/Bull Wallet: https://wallet.bullbitcoin.com/ White Noise: https://www.whitenoise.chat/Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/EPISODE: 183BLOCK: 923180PRICE:  967 sats per dollar(00:03:36) Whats New at Coinkite and the Growing User Base(00:05:24) Designing for Global Users and Changing Threat Models(00:06:36) Power vs. Simplicity(00:08:44) Onboarding Stories(00:09:56) Mobile vs Desktop Habits and Emerging Wallets(00:14:28) QR Workflows, NFC Push-tx, and SD Card Signing(00:15:32) Travel and Borders(00:17:04) Key Teleport: Device to Device Encrypted Sharing(00:22:38) Spending Policies(00:25:02) Trick PINs, Duress Flows, and Safe Inspired Defenses(00:29:02) Border Stories and Why Brick Me PIN Exists(00:31:05) SeedXOR vs Passphrase vs Multisig(00:34:07) Family Planning and Inheritance Strategies(00:40:00) Physical Security Model: Dual SE + MCU(00:43:37) Comparisons to Trezor Designs and Components(00:49:44) Seeds as Sovereignty and Unilateral Exit(00:53:21) Debate: iCloud Backups, Ease vs Sovereignty(01:00:08) Bitkey Debate: Goals, Risks, and Break Glass Exit(01:08:54) Edge Cases, Loss Scenarios, and Marketing Ethics(01:20:05) Coinkite Roadmap(01:22:23) Future Products(01:28:01) Touchscreens, Supply Chain Risk, and PWAs(01:30:31) Cove, White Noise MLS, and AI Bots(01:32:26) Nostr Adoption, Socials, and Moderation(01:41:36) Wrap Up, Gratitude, and Ways to Supportmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
CD182: ALEX B - ARKADE

CD182: ALEX B - ARKADE

2025-10-2901:18:06

Alex is Head of Ecosystem at Ark Labs. We discuss their new bitcoin protocol: Arkade. It can be used with the lightning network to make self custody bitcoin usage more powerful and accessible. This rip was in person, in Lugano. We are both here for the PlanB Forum.Alex B on Nostr: https://primal.net/alexbAlex B on X: https://x.com/bergealex4Ark Labs: https://arklabs.xyz/PlanB Forum: https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/EPISODE: 182BLOCK: 920390PRICE:  915 sats per dollar(00:00:35) Arkade Activation Day in Lugano(00:03:11) What is Ark? Positioning vs. Lightning and L2s(00:04:32) Ark fundamentals: batching, VTXOs, and two-of-two with an operator(00:08:38) Double-spend risks and the operator trust model(00:10:24) Settling vs. zero conf: anchoring batches onchain(00:16:04) Beyond cheap payments: programmable offchain Bitcoin(00:18:12) Ark Lightning swaps and unilateral exits(00:21:01) Unilateral exit costs, trees of transactions, and anchoring cadence(00:26:17) Wallet UX: automating settlement and exposure management(00:27:22) Ark vs. Spark: security model and settlement feedback to L1(00:34:39) Onchain demand: Lightning realities, Spark cadence, Ark batches(00:36:59) Ark is tech, Arkade is implementation(00:37:45) Batch frequency and scaling: hundreds per batch, Taproot efficiency(00:38:41) Covenants soft fork would cut interactivity overhead(00:42:01) Users, servers, and always on clients: who runs what?(00:45:02) DeFi on Arkade: loans, new opcodes, and secondary markets(00:47:00) Credit, derivatives, and Bitcoinization(00:55:06) Company model: Ark Labs, open source Arkade, and revenue(01:01:02) Flagship apps strategy: neo-bank, swaps, prediction markets(01:07:05) Try it today: arkade.money PWA and roadmap to native apps(01:12:05) Operators landscape: competition, network effects, resilience(01:15:27) Closing thoughts: adapt, focus, and take the white pillmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
Francis is the Founder of Bull Bitcoin, one of the best bitcoin brokerage services. They recently launched a self custody mobile wallet on ios and android: Bull Wallet. This rip was earlier today, in person, in Lugano. We are both here for the PlanB Forum.Francis on Nostr: https://primal.net/francisFrancis on X: https://x.com/francispouliot_Bull Wallet: https://wallet.bullbitcoin.comPlanB Forum: https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/EPISODE: 181BLOCK: 920238PRICE: 929 sats per dollar(00:00:00) Catching up from Lugano: old rips, 2019 memories, and lore(00:01:07) Introducing Bull Wallet: goals, BDK under the hood, and UX vision(00:02:21) Lightning lessons: LDK attempts, liquidity pain, and Phoenix tradeoffs(00:04:38) Fee shocks and “just-in-time” channels: why Liquid entered the plan(00:06:24) Liquid + Boltz atomic swaps: architecture, Rootstock notes, and standards push(00:07:37) Designing for privacy and power users: Sparrow on mobile, Payjoin journey(00:12:21) Data minimization in practice: no push, no cloud leaks, strict dependencies(00:13:56) Shipping realities: iOS approval grind and cross‑platform necessity(00:15:11) Secure versus Instant: Liquid framing, hype cycles, and collaborative custody(00:19:13) The UX–compromise matrix: placing Liquid among trust models(00:21:24) Auto‑swap safety rails: keeping Liquid balances modest by default(00:24:26) Confidential transactions and buying flows: privacy wins via Liquid(00:27:24) Swap providers and resilience: Boltz today, multi‑provider tomorrow(00:31:05) Builders who ship: moving fast, potentially Ark or Spark in the future(00:32:11) Why Ark: unilateral exits, pre‑confirmed states, and costs(00:50:00) Ark tradeoffs without soft forks: watchtowers, refresh, and liveness(00:57:15) Ark vs Liquid in Bull Wallet: timelines, reckless testing, and user defaults(01:04:12) Payjoin, heuristics, and passive consolidation(01:11:01) Consolidation strategies: Liquid swaps, CT, and fee‑aware UTXO management(01:15:48) Lightning address UX with Liquid: directories, costs, and tiny payments(01:17:10) Nostr as a wallet backend: zaps, contact book, and secure comms(01:18:01) Multisig in practice: BitPay’s UX, Miniscript future, and mobile approvals(01:20:19) Operator messaging and alerts: following npubs inside the app(01:20:49) Core v30, OP_RETURN, and policy vs consensus(01:31:09) Funding open source: OpenSats, private companies, and shipping culture(01:35:15) Why open source keeps us sane: creativity, legacy, and closing notesmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
My keynote presentation at the Imagine If conference in Nashville focused on how i think about scaling freedom tech.Date: September 20, 2025OpenSats: https://opensats.orgTen31: https://ten31.xyzImagine If: https://bitcoinpark.com/imagineif(01:02) ODELL takes the stage(01:23) Diagnosing the problem(02:35) Ad driven surveillance and addictive platforms(03:04) Open source and open protocols(03:49) Scaling open source: incentives and funding(04:26) OpenSats and Bitcoin powered grants(05:25) Email, an open protocol, and Gmails predatory model(06:42) Make freedom profitable: align incentives(06:54) Ten31 thesis: sustainable, user-aligned businesses(07:28) Case study: Start9 and self-hosted services(08:16) Case study: Maples private AI and open API(08:51) Case study: Primal on Nostr and Bitcoin(09:37) Case study: Strike and low switching costs(10:25) Closing call to action: profit drives scalabilityVideo:  https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs8g25llcvddu2cacsglckxks2afya2c27pt6g3qf3rh5rma3eachsg5mu8s more info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
A conversation with Adam Back at Bitcoin Park's Custody and Treasury Summit in Nashville, TN. We discuss the current state of bitcoin custody and how it applies to individuals, small businesses, and public companies.Date: September 18, 2025Adam on Nostr: https://primal.net/adamback Adam on X: https://x.com/adam3us Bitcoin Park on Nostr: https://primal.net/parkBitcoin Park: https://bitcoinpark.com/ (00:00) Teaser(01:07) Not your keys, not your coins(01:49) Why self custody matters: seizure and asset protection(03:06) Early Bitcoin legal fears and Obama’s Swiss bank quote(03:54) Individuals adopt self custody; shift to business treasuries(04:22) Custody advice for small businesses and dentists(05:34) Multisig basics, redundancy, and vendor diversity(06:45) Single sig vs multi sig usability and learning curve(07:32) Practical setups: single sig cold storage and backups(08:24) Keeping multiple backups(09:06) Fireproof steel backups and moving to treasury topics(09:30) Public companies using custodians: risks and drivers(10:48) Collaborative custody among custodians and decaying multisig(12:10) Balancing third party risk vs operational self custody risk(12:43) Finality, time locks, and covenant based safety nets(13:59) Why multisig is essential for large organizations(14:56) Industry pushback and the case for proof of reserves(16:20) Adoption of proof of reserves and hybrid treasury strategies(16:51) Closing and audience Q&A introVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsxtltftjfavnlg8ysjvnn9504l40ykq8hdw25pcmaljwdx0xp9wyswev5e3  more info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
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