Doula That!

Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss their experiences with being scammed by Augustine Colebrook, who promised a Belize retreat for November 2024 but changed it to February 2025, causing scheduling conflicts. Despite paying in installments, they were unable to get refunds, with Colebrook citing financial difficulties and potential bankruptcy. They highlight the broader issue of Colebrook's history of financial mishandling, including a $2,000 loss for a skills and drills conference cancellation and allegations of harming families in Oregon and Hawaii. They urge caution for other birth workers and emphasize the importance of transparency and integrity in business practices.Part 1 on YouTube: https://youtu.be/535CkMmvlgs?si=uCPE37UE6u1vyNv-Part 2 on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MVdtv3IZxsg

Member Meeting ????Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discussed their observations from a recent meeting of DONA International, a nonprofit organization for doulas. They highlighted issues such as the lack of transparency, missing meeting minutes for three years, and inconsistencies in financial reporting. They noted that DONA's membership has declined from 7,000 to around 2,700 certified members in two years, and its revenue has dropped significantly. They also criticized the lack of translation services and the rushed certification process, which may compromise quality. They emphasized the need for transparency and accountability in doula organizations and announced plans to provide a resource for informed consumer decisions.ResourcesClick here to find an organization's 990 tax filings to verify the financial information shared.Here's a resource to provide more transparency and information about doula and birth worker training organizations.OutlineMeeting Introduction and PurposeRavae Sinclair and Denise Bolds introduce themselves and acknowledge the post-election energy.The meeting is focused on observations from a recent meeting of an organization they were previously leaders of.Ravae emphasizes the importance of transparency for nonprofit organizations, especially regarding financial and membership information.The goal is to provide feedback and create accountability within the organization, Dona International.Observations on Transparency and Meeting MinutesDenise Bolds discusses the annual member meeting, highlighting the lack of transparency in posting meeting minutes and budgets.The organization claims to be transparent, but Denise notes that meeting minutes and agendas have not been posted in several years.Denise mentions that she kept slides from the meeting to track information and questions the organization's financial health.Ravae and Denise express concern about the inconsistencies in the organization's claims of transparency.Certification and Membership NumbersDenise shares a screen to present certification and membership numbers, revealing a significant drop in certified doulas since 2017.The organization claims to have over 2000 birth doulas and just over 500 postpartum doulas certified.Ravae and Denise discuss the importance of these numbers and the discrepancy between the organization's claims and actual figures.They note that the organization's membership has been declining, especially in Canada, due to unmet needs and issues with the organization.Financial Health and RevenueRavae discusses the organization's financial health, noting that it was once a million-dollar company but is now losing ground.The organization's revenue has decreased significantly, with a drop of $300,000 to $400,000 in the past two years.Ravae explains that the organization's revenue comes primarily from membership dues and trainer fees, with a recent change requiring trainers to pay per head.Despite the changes, the organization's financial situation remains precarious, with lower revenue than in previous years.Lack of Translation and Language BarriersRavae and Denise highlight...

 Be Aware of Scammers!Ravae Sinclair, a co-host of the Doula That podcast, shares her experience of being scammed by Augustine Colebrook, who promised a retreat for birth workers. Ravae paid $1,400 for a retreat scheduled for November 2024, but it was changed to February 2025, which was unacceptable. Despite multiple requests for a refund, Colebrook delayed and eventually took an additional $600 without authorization. Ravae emphasizes the importance of being informed consumers, using business credit cards for transactions, and the need for clear communication from service providers. She urges others to be cautious and to support her in recovering her money.Ravae Sinclair @birthconnections @natlbirthpostpartumprosAugustine Colebrook @artofbirthing @midwiferywisdomYoutube:https://youtu.be/535CkMmvlgs?si=uCPE37UE6u1vyNv-OutlineScammers in the Birth SpaceRavae Sinclair introduces herself and the topic of scammers in the birth space.She mentions that she and her co-host Denise have been impacted by scammers, with her matter still unresolved.Ravae emphasizes that it's important to speak out if one has been scammed to prevent others from falling victim.She encourages birth workers not to feel shame if they have been scammed, as it's not their fault.The Scam Story BeginsRavae shares a story about planning to attend a retreat with her co-host Denise, inspired by a promotional ad.They made payments from January to June, expecting a retreat in November, but received no updates or communication.In July, they learned the conference in New Orleans had changed to virtual, raising suspicions about the retreat.The retreat dates were later changed to February 2025, which was unacceptable for Ravae due to her schedule and client commitments.Attempts to Get a RefundRavae and Denise reached out to Augustine Colebrook, the organizer, requesting a refund due to the significant date change.Augustine agreed to the refund but delayed it, initially saying it would be at the end of November.Denise's company was able to get provisional credit back on her credit card, but Ravae's payments were made through a business debit card, making it harder to challenge.Despite multiple emails and requests, Augustine did not provide the refund or communicate effectively.The Scam EscalatesIn October, Ravae discovered an unauthorized $600 charge from Augustine, under a different business name.She had to cancel her debit card to prevent further unauthorized charges.Ravae expressed deep disappointment and frustration, especially seeing Augustine's social media posts about her activities in Bali while not returning the money.She emphasized the importance of being an informed consumer and the need for better communication and transparency from service providers.Final Plea and Lessons LearnedRavae urged listeners to be cautious and informed when making purchases, especially in the birth space.She shared her frustration and the emotional toll of being scammed, especially by someone who claimed to be an ally.Ravae highlighted the importance of having a business credit card for transactions to have advocacy and protection.She called on listeners to support her in getting her money back and to be vigilant about who they do business with.

The Day After The Day After The ElectionRavae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the emotional and physical impact of the 2024 U.S. presidential election, expressing feelings of betrayal and fear for the future. They highlight the potential loss of reproductive rights and privacy due to the Supreme Court's conservative leanings and the erosion of bodily autonomy. They also address the broader implications for healthcare, particularly the shortage of medical professionals and the challenges faced by immigrants. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, support for birth workers, and the need for systemic change to protect reproductive health and access to quality care. Co-HostsRavae Sinclair @birthconnections @natlbirthpostpartumprosDenise Bolds @bolddoula @blackwomendovbac Show LinksTikTok link in the show notes about an interview with a white nationalist.Become a member of National Birth and Postpartum Professionals Organization.OutlineImpact of the Election on Personal Well-beingRavae Sinclair expresses her emotional state, mentioning she has "all the feels" and is struggling to find words.Denise Bolds shares her physical and emotional symptoms, feeling unwell and comparing the impact of the election results to past elections.Ravae Sinclair discusses the broader impact of American elections on the world and the importance of voting.Both hosts reflect on feeling betrayed and the fear of losing freedoms and equity gained.Personal and Professional Reactions to the ElectionDenise Bolds describes her experience in New York City, particularly during the pandemic, and her triggering feelings upon hearing the election results.Denise Bolds emphasizes her concerns as a black woman and birth worker, highlighting the impact of the election on her family and her profession.Ravae Sinclair discusses the potential loss of reproductive rights and the impact of the Supreme Court's decisions on privacy rights.Both hosts express their frustration and anger over the election outcome and its implications for future generations.Impact on Reproductive Rights and HealthcareRavae Sinclair explains the potential long-term impact of the Supreme Court's decisions on reproductive rights and privacy.The conversation touches on the erosion of privacy rights and the potential for a lifetime appointment of Supreme Court justices.Ravae Sinclair discusses the challenges faced by women seeking medical care during the pandemic and the impact of heartbeat laws.Denise Bolds shares her personal experience with miscarriages and the suffering women endure due to lack of access to necessary medical care.Challenges Faced by Birth Workers and Medical ProfessionalsRavae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the challenges faced by birth workers and medical professionals, particularly in the context of the pandemic.The conversation highlights the impact of immigration policies on the healthcare system and the shortage of medical professionals.Ravae Sinclair shares a story from a Facebook group about the difficulties faced by women seeking medical care in states with strict abortion laws.Both hosts emphasize the importance of access to quality healthcare and the role of birth workers in supporting women during pregnancy and...

Personal updates, business growth, and nonprofit work. Ravae and Denise are back after a 3-month break, catching up with listeners.They discuss their busy schedules, podcast hiatus, and future plans.Denise Bolds shares updates on her personal and professional life, including travel and business growth.Ravae Sinclair expands agency, launches online training programs, and supports nonprofit while taking breaks and enjoying personal time.Post-pandemic changes in the birthing space, including increased inductions and doula burnout. 7:33Denise Bolds highlights post-pandemic changes in the birthing space, including increased inductions, doula burnout, and hospital closures.Ravae Sinclair seeks Denise's insights on the energy and vibe in the birth world since the pandemic, with a focus on shifting dynamics and professionals leaving their roles.Birth workers' experiences with social media and reproductive rights. 10:28Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the importance of Facebook groups for doulas, providing emotional and financial support.Doulas need community building and connection, which Facebook groups can offer, despite being isolated in their work.Ravae Sinclair observes growth in realization of the impact of reproductive rights loss on birth workers, with some feeling the pinch and others seeking business building skills.Ravae Sinclair sees some people pulling back from social media due to life's challenges, while others continue to vocalize their opinions and priorities.The state of the birth world, including burnout, lack of leadership, and traumatic birth experiences. 15:10Ravae and Denise discuss the importance of continued learning and mentorship in the birthing industry.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the challenges of being a doula, including burnout and the need for responsible and experienced professionals.Many doulas are experiencing burnout, with some leaving the profession entirely, while others are struggling to keep up with the demands of their work.Birth professionals describe chaotic and traumatic situations in the wild west of childbirth.Optimism and solutions for improving the state of birth in the US, with a focus on nurses' roles and accountability. 21.49Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of nurses in the birth process and calls for accountability.Sinclair and others aim to develop into educators and leaders in the field, offering advanced courses and solutions.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the state of birth work, innovation, and optimism post-pandemic.They reflect on their experiences during the pandemic, including working in hazmat suits and neglecting personal well-being.Pivoting and innovation in doula work, with a focus on childbirth education and virtual training. 26:45Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss innovative doula training programs, including NICU doula training and medical terminology for birth workers.Doulas can help families navigate traumatic gaps during childbirth and postpartum, including those in NICUs, with specific skills and support.Ravae Sinclair is focusing on supporting birth businesses and parents with convenient, accessible education.She is developing self-paced childbirth education modules and innovating her contracts for doulas and agencies.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss their return to sharing tips and ideas after taking a break.

Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair share their experiences and insights on personal growth, wellness, and inclusivity in the birth work community. They emphasize the importance of self-love, setting boundaries, and prioritizing self-care for effective leadership and service. They also discuss the challenges of navigating identity and leadership as black women in the field, and the need for inclusivity and transparency in serving diverse communities.OutlinePersonal transformation, stress, and self-care for birth workers.Denise and Ravae discuss their struggles with weight loss and fitness, sharing their experiences and tips.Ravae Sinclair reflects on her weight gain and stress during her time as intercultural director at Dona.Denise Bolds shares her own experience with weight gain and stress, and how it relates to her current project.Ravae Sinclair shares her personal journey as an intercultural director and board member, highlighting the challenges and toll of pushing for inclusivity and change within institutions.Sinclair reflects on the weight gain and stress she experienced during her time as a volunteer board member, and how she had to find ways to prioritize her own well-being after leaving the board.Self-care and parenting an adult child.Denise Bolds shares her wellness journey and how it supports her birth work, despite external obligations.Ravae Sinclair encourages Denise to embrace her identity and inclusivity in her dissertation, leading to project success.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss parenting an adult child, with Denise adjusting her approach to let go and prioritize self-care.They agree that it's important to let adult children make their own mistakes and learn from them, while still providing support and guidance.Prioritizing self-care for marginalized communities in the post-pandemic era.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss burnout and recovery as birth workers, with Ravae sharing her struggles with leading inclusive work while prioritizing self-care.Ravae and Denise explore the changing needs of birth workers during the pandemic, with a focus on balancing work and self-care in this new phase.Ravae Sinclair reflects on her identity as a seasoned birth worker and black woman, prioritizing her own needs and authenticity in her work.Sinclair shares examples of other birth workers who have found success by staying true to themselves and their communities, inspiring her to do the same.Personal growth and transformation in one's 40s and 50s.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss their personal growth and transformation in their 60s, with a focus on serving others.They share their experiences of unloading baggage, breaking bad habits, and being transparent with themselves for personal growth.Ravae Sinclair shares her experience of transforming in her 40s, including gaining weight and setting boundaries.Denise Bolds discusses how turning 50 brings new challenges, such as figuring out how to use the fire of life.Self-care and self-love for black women during menopause.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss self-care and its impact on their doula practices, with Denise sharing her experience of letting go of clients who are not a good fit.They emphasize the importance of accountability in growing a business, with Denise mentioning the need to evolve and adapt to changes.Denise Bolds shares her journey of transforming her health through diet and exercise, with the help of her doctor and online resources.Ravae Sinclair supports Denise's efforts and encourages others to make similar changes, emphasizing the importance of partnering with caring professionals.Wellness, self-love, and life...

Childbirth education and lack of recognition from evidence-based birth organization. 0:02Ravae and Denise discuss their podcast updates, current events in the birth space, and advocacy for safe and comfortable spaces.Denise Bolds and 5 other women, including 2 black women, have been working on a Longitudinal Study to improve birth outcomes for black and brown families.Despite their efforts, they have received little recognition or support from Evidence Based Birth, including being asked to present at their conference.Black History Month and DEI efforts in the birth work community. 4:16Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the erosion of Black History Month and Juneteenth celebrations in corporate America, with a focus on the lack of commitment from white leadership organizations.The two doulas highlight the importance of 365 blackness and the need for white organizations to be mindful of their actions and commit to supporting black vendors and promoting black history throughout the year.Ravae Sinclair discusses the lack of attention and action around Black History Month, despite previous claims of support from allies.Denise Bolds joins the conversation, sharing her own experiences with pain and the need for acknowledgement and addressing of systemic issues.Leadership and communication in a maternal health organization. 9:04Denise and Ravae discuss Rebecca's sudden dismissal of their work without explanation, despite previous support and collaboration.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the importance of proper communication and leadership in the Black birth worker community, with a focus on building relationships and acknowledging the work of older, more experienced individuals.Denise Bolds expresses frustration with younger doulas who don't understand the history of the work and don't want to acknowledge the contributions of older, more experienced individuals.Ravae Sinclair shares her frustration with the abrupt and disrespectful manner in which she was removed from a leadership role in a community organization.The speaker and others agree that it's important for leaders to do better in treating volunteers with respect and care, especially when transitioning them out of their roles.Building relationships and maintaining influence in the workplace. 16:46Denise Bolds reflects on her experience with EPB and acknowledges the need to move on, feeling undervalued and unappreciated despite her contributions.Ravae Sinclair shares similar experiences of being transitioned out of spaces and recognizes the importance of containing those experiences for future growth.Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of being mindful of who you build relationships with in your business and personal life.She shares her experience of intentionally limiting her interactions with certain people who have not been supportive or respectful, and reassessing those relationships yearly.Letting go of toxic relationships and trusting God's plan. 21:27Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss outgrowing people and relationships, with Denise sharing her experience of resigning from several organizations and Ravae offering tips for those in similar situations.Ravae Sinclair reflects on a situation where someone suddenly ghosted them after years of close connection, highlighting the need to recognize and respect people's boundaries.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of recognizing signs of closure in personal relationships and moving on when necessary.They share their experiences with betrayal and how it can take time to catch up and move forward.Ravae Sinclair shares her experience of building relationships in business,...

Doula referrals in a Facebook group. 0:00Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss common issues on social media related to birth work and leadership.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss a post in a Facebook group for doulas of color where a request for referrals for a "high profile or celebrity burning person" was made in the middle of the day on February 6.The original poster asked a doula to tag a colleague in central New Jersey, but the doula tagged an agency owner instead, leading to confusion and negative commentary in the thread.Professionalism and authenticity in the birth worker community. 3:26Ravae Sinclair and Emily were discussing a client in a public thread when Emily tagged blindsided, a doula, in the comment.Blindsided replied to the comment, stating that it's not an issue of respect but authenticity, and her doula work is professional and discreet.Ravae Sinclair emphasizes authenticity in doula work and referrals.Ravae Sinclair shares her reaction to a negative exchange between two leaders in the birth worker community on social media, finding it sad and throwing her off during a positive moment.Denise comments on the impact of such interactions on the people watching, highlighting the importance of professionalism and leadership in the community.Using social media responsibly and avoiding negativity. 9:43Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the negative consequences of using social media to direct passive aggression towards someone, rather than having a private conversation.Ravae Sinclair expresses frustration with a public conversation between two colleagues, feeling it was unnecessary and unpleasant.Sinclair suggests that difficult conversations should be handled in private or with a small supportive group, rather than in a public space.Social media etiquette and backstabbing. 14:22Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the negative impact of social media on black maternal health disparities, including the potential for passive aggression and hostility when tagging someone in a post.The speakers emphasize the importance of being mindful of the potential consequences of tagging someone in a social media post, especially when it comes to sensitive topics like race and reproductive health.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the concept of "karma" and how it relates to a person who has been mistreated, with Ravae expressing her belief that the person will ultimately ruin their own opportunities through their actions.Ravae shares her observations of the person's behavior, including their tendency to backstab and lack of loyalty, and how it has affected their relationships and opportunities.Ravae Sinclair expresses frustration with a recent incident in which someone was publicly criticized and believes it's a symptom of a larger problem in the birth worker space of not holding each other accountable for our actions.Denise Bolds agrees that there is a lack of accountability in the space and notes that it's important to call people in and hold them responsible for their behavior, but also recognizes that it's not always easy to know how to do this in a constructive way.Trust and accountability in the doula community. 23:11Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of accountability in the birth work industry, with a focus on trustworthiness and reliability.They share examples of unethical behavior, such as a doula who took money for childbirth education but didn't provide the class, and a midwife who stole money from black birth workers.Denise Bolds discusses a Black doula who falsely claimed to have helped New York State doulas get their Medicaid certification, and how this has caused...

·      Katt Williams' comedy special and 2024's revealing themes. 0:00o  Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss Katt Williams' comedy special, which they find refreshing and relevant to current events.o  They emphasize the importance of owning up to one's actions and being held accountable for hurting or stealing from others.·      Monique's career and race in the entertainment industry. 3:00o  Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss Mo’Nique's experience as a Black woman in the entertainment industry, with Denise expressing support for her truth-telling and Ravae acknowledging the challenges of parenting and forgiveness for Black women.o  Denise and Ravae analyze Mo’Nique's situation, highlighting the double standards faced by Black women in the industry and the lack of forgiveness for their choices.o  Mo’Nique discusses the challenges of being a Black woman in the entertainment industry, including the pressure to be perfect and the lack of collaboration between Black women in the same profession.o  Mo’Nique shares her personal experience of being mistreated by Oprah Winfrey, highlighting the need for Black women to work together and not see each other as competition.·      Black maternal health disparities and corruption in the medical industry. 7:27o  Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss how gossip and misinformation can spread quickly in their community, leading to schisms and conflicts.o  Both women prioritize truth and evidence in their interactions, seeking to collaborate and serve families in a more effective and compassionate manner.o  Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the financial gain from Black maternal health disparities, with Bolds noting that eradicating the issue would result in a billion-dollar loss for various industries.o  Bolds also mentions that there are towns built around prisons in upstate New York, highlighting the economic benefits of incarceration.o  Denise Bolds shares a story of a client who was induced by a doctor despite wanting a spontaneous vaginal birth, highlighting the need for doulas to advocate for their clients' choices.o  Bolds offers a certified training program for doulas to learn how to negotiate and advocate in instances of inductions, emphasizing the importance of empowering Black women to make informed decisions about their reproductive health.·      Bait and switch tactics in obstetrics. 14:52o  Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss a doctor's unethical behavior towards a client, including bait-and-switch tactics and prioritizing financial gain over patient care.o  Denise Bolds, a doula, helps the client navigate the situation by reminding her of her birth preferences and encouraging her to trust her body, ultimately leading to a successful and empowering birth experience.o  Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss a client's experience with a Black OB who tried to bait and switch her, highlighting the importance of awareness and precautions when choosing a provider.o  The doulas emphasize the value of having a supportive team during childbirth, particularly in navigating unexpected scenarios and ensuring a positive experience.o  Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss how the pandemic has changed the birth arena, with some positive and negative impacts.o  They highlight the power dynamics between hospitals and birth workers, with hospitals controlling and regulating birth, while birth workers are seen as a...

Balancing doula work with family life as a single mom. 0:00Aspiring doula struggles with balancing work and family as a single mom to young children.Challenges of being a single parent and doula. 2:09Single parents face significant stress, and adding on-call responsibilities may not improve quality of life.Plan ahead for childcare during nighttime calls as a doula.Doula work, business tips, and bartering. 5:21Ravae Sinclair suggests creating a business that supports birthing and postpartum families, such as meal prep or childbirth education, to help balance work and family life.Denise Bolds adds that there is a growing market for nutrition and meal prep services, and that skills in yoga, fitness, or art therapy can also be applied to the parenting space.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the option of bartering as a way for doulas to receive payment for their services, with Denise sharing her experience of not having much experience with bartering in New York City.Both Ravae and Denise agree that paying doula services off in installments is a more common practice in their area.Contracts and exchanges in birth doula work. 10:53Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of written contracts for exchanging services, especially when it comes to rural families trading goods or services.Ravae Sinclair discusses challenges with upfront payments for birth and postpartum work, including the risk of non-refundable contracts and PayPal refunds.Birth work excellence and virtual doula support. 13:49Ravae emphasizes the importance of providing value to clients immediately after contract signing.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of responsiveness in client communication, particularly when it comes to exchanging deposits and manifesting energy.Ravae emphasizes the need to be proactive and set up the next steps for clients, such as sending an email with links and a welcome packet, to ensure a smooth onboarding process.Ravae Sinclair discusses virtual doula support reducing C-sections by 60%, with a higher impact on black women.Virtual doula work and its challenges. 19:52Denise Bolds highlights the importance of assessment skills in virtual doula work, using her experience as a social worker to provide valuable insights.Virtual doula work has become more prevalent since the pandemic, with successful businesses emerging globally, despite initial skepticism.Ravae Sinclair discusses the challenges of virtual doula work, including disruptions from technology and lack of continuity in support.Sinclair highlights the importance of being able to see and observe the birthing person and their support system in virtual doula work.Virtual doula work and pricing. 24:30Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of experience and anticipation in virtual birth support, using her own expertise to help families prepare and navigate the process.Sinclair navigates tech challenges and preps partners for physical aspects of birth, while also maintaining a consistent and connected presence for families.Ravae Sinclair discusses the challenges of virtual doula work, including relying on others for physical comfort measures and communication.Sinclair believes virtual doula support should not be priced the same as in-person support due to the differences in workload and responsibilities.Virtual doula work and pricing. 28:51Denise Bolds emphasizes the importance of hands-on experience and assessment skills for virtual doulas, citing her own 10-year experience with over 287 births.Ravae Sinclair disagrees, arguing that lower prices for virtual

Evaluating quality of doula courses. 0:00Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the importance of vetting courses for quality education in the birth and postpartum industry.They share their concerns about the lack of reliable information and poor communication in some courses, highlighting the need for a trustworthy platform for continuing education.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss tips for evaluating the credibility of online doula courses, including Google searching the instructor and asking mentors or peers for recommendations.They also caution against relying solely on online reviews or testimonials, as they may be biased or unreliable.Evaluating birth work courses and trainers. 5:20Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of researching a potential birth worker's connections and reach, as well as their sensibility and experience in the field.Denise Bolds agrees, highlighting the value of checking a person's social media presence and online presence to gauge their expertise and experience in the birth work space.Ravae Sinclair provides a checklist for evaluating online courses, including researching the instructor, checking for contact hours, and verifying the course's organization and objectives.Denise Bolds emphasizes the importance of considering the course's platforms, contact hours, and potential for leveraging credentials in building a practice.Doula training and accounting for cash payments. 10:25Doulas must be diligent in avoiding fraudulent trainings and certifications.Ravae Sinclair advises doulas to use receipt books to account for cash payments, while Denise Bolds suggests using apps for digital receipts.Contracts for birth workers with legal advice. 13:57Ravae Sinclair advises doulas on contracts and their importance for business legitimacy.Ravae Sinclair provides legal advice to a client, emphasizing the importance of using a licensed attorney in the client's state to review contracts to ensure compliance with state law.Denise Bolds expresses surprise at the importance of having a licensed attorney review contracts, and Ravae Sinclair explains the benefits of using a lawyer who is licensed in the client's state.Legal contracts for doulas and birth workers. 18:25Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of having a customized contract for doulas and birth workers, rather than relying on templates or DIY approaches.She suggests investing in a professional contract template, even if it's a small investment, to ensure legal protection and avoid potential risks.Ravae and Denise discuss the importance of self-care and goal-setting for birth workers, with a focus on the end of the year and preparing for 2024.Self-care and community support for doulas. 23:01Find a supportive community to replenish energy and prevent burnout in birth work.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss their podcast and upcoming plans for 2024, including inviting guests and answering questions in a live Q&A.They express gratitude for their collaboration and look forward to supporting their audience in the new year.The New Doula Course Vetting Checklist1) Google Them2) Ask folks about them3) Check their social media4) Get the course outline and objectives5) Call them- talk with them, get acquainted!6) Get Contact hours- leverage!------------------------------------------------How to find us:Ravae Sinclair @birthconnections and natlbirthpostpartumprosDenise Bolds @BoldDoula and @blackwomendovbacWebsite: www.doulathatpodcast.comIG:@doulathatpodcastPlatforms: Apple, Spotify,...

Backup doula coverage during holiday season. 0:04Be ready for the end of the year with induction times, weather considerations, and illness preparation.Choose a backup doula early and get their commitment in writing to ensure peace of mind during emergency situations.Prepare the family for potential switch from in-person to virtual support if needed, and activate the backup doula as a last resort.Ravae Sinclair advises preparing families for potential illnesses and discussing backup doula coverage during the season.Denise Bolds emphasizes the importance of having a plan for inductions and clear communication with providers to avoid unwanted interventions.End-of-year prep for doulas, including email management and self-care. 6:21Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss end-of-year tasks, including inventory management, tax preparation, and email cleaning.Organize emails by archiving older ones and creating a "23" folder for searchability.Ravae Sinclair suggests using an out-of-office message to set expectations and provide a link to a birth doula service, while also including a personal touch to show professionalism.Ravae and Denise Bolds discuss the benefits of taking a nap during the day, including recalibrating energy levels and feeling cozy and relaxed.A viral video of a mother dancing provocatively at a party. 12:41Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss a viral video of a man dancing with a woman at a formal event, with the woman's back turned and her hips gyrating in a provocative manner.The hosts analyze the video, finding it enjoyable and impressive, but also noting that it could be seen as inappropriate or disrespectful due to the woman's lack of consent.Ravae Sinclair observes a son's reaction to his mother's provocative dancing, finding it heartbreaking and noting the lack of attention given to his emotions.Denise Bolds shares her thoughts on the situation, agreeing with Ravae's assessment and finding it sad that no one addressed the son's hurt.Blending personal and professional life in birth work. 17:10Denise Bolds shares her experience as a black single mom raising her son Jordan, highlighting the societal pressure on black men to become the man of the house.Denise and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of maintaining boundaries and being a good role model for their children, with Denise emphasizing the need to be a responsible and present mother.Ravae Sinclair discusses the blending of personal and professional online, highlighting the importance of maintaining a consistent brand image for businesses in the birth work industry.Sinclair suggests that birth workers may need to elevate and make shifts in their online presence to provide consistency and predictability for clients, while also maintaining a personal connection.Ravae Sinclair advises business owners to be mindful of their online presence, as a lack of privacy settings and personal content can repel potential customers.Sinclair suggests creating separate personal and business social media accounts to maintain privacy and professionalism.Social media consistency for business owners. 25:06Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of maintaining a professional image on social media, with Denise sharing her approach of only posting business-related content and Ravae agreeing that she only posts minimal personal content.Denise and Ravae suggest considering a separate page for personal and business content, and reflecting on how they want to show up privately versus publicly.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the importance of consistency in social media for businesses, highlighting the "know, like, trust" factor...

The impact of leadership change on doula career and black maternal health. 0:09Ravae Sinclair reflects on the abrupt transition out of leadership with DONA International and its impact on her doula career and the Black maternal health crisis.Race and dysfunction in a doula organization. 1:30Denise Bolds shares her personal experience with disappointment and betrayal after a unanimous vote to prioritize black birth workers was ignored by some board members.Ravae Sinclair echoes Denise's shock and disbelief at the lack of follow-through on initiatives to uplift Black birth workers, despite unanimous support from the board.Ravae Sinclair felt relieved and liberated after leaving a dysfunctional organization, realizing the importance of setting boundaries and taking care of personal relationships.Denise Bolds experienced a harsh lesson on personal growth and relationships, recognizing the need to prioritize self-care and set boundaries in toxic situations.Organizational dysfunction and resistance to change. 6:41Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss their experiences in a dysfunctional organization, with Ravae realizing she's good at operating in dysfunction and Denise mentioning the importance of negating not just the board but also the management office.DONA's leadership faced criticism for prioritizing financial interests over cultural fit and diversity.Organization prioritizes white privilege over equity and change, despite harmful past actions.Diversity and inclusion in a non-profit organization. 12:17Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss experiences with racism and bias in DONA International, with Bolds sharing how the organization's leadership was resistant to change.Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of prioritizing and supporting marginalized groups within the organization.Denise Bolds was motivated to continue Ravae's work as leadership due to the benefits she received from the new web page and policies.Denise refused to fire Ravae despite board members' requests, leading to bullying and harassment.Race, power dynamics, and betrayal in a non-profit organization. 18:12Denise Bolds refused to comply with the board's request to terminate the community doula program, leading to her removal from the board.Ravae Sinclair questioned the board's decision to mix the termination of the contract with Denise's role on the board, feeling it was a separate issue.Ravae Sinclair expresses outrage at being removed from a board and not being paid for contract work, despite years of free labor, and accuses the organization of not valuing Black women.Sinclair questions the organization's credibility in providing training and workshops on black maternal health when they cannot honor their contract with a black woman.Race and leadership in a doula organization. 23:15Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discussed the challenges of implementing innovative ideas in a predominantly white organization, with Denise Bolds expressing frustration at the fear and intimidation they faced.The two women highlighted the importance of providing valuable member benefits, such as legal support and tech support, to enhance the lifestyle, work, and skills of paying members.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss their dismissal from the board of DONA, with Bolds criticizing the lack of member involvement and Sinclair expressing frustration with the lack of accountability.Bolds and Sinclair argue that the organization is not member-led, with Bolds stating that she has yet to see what is better than her leading the group.Leadership and backstabbing in a non-profit organization. 28:15Ravae...

·      Balancing doula work with family life as a single mom. 0:00o  Aspiring doula struggles with balancing work and family responsibilities as a single mom to young children.·      Challenges of being a single parent and doula. 2:09o  Single mom of a five-year-old faces stress as a primary caregiver and seeks support for safety net and community.o  Consider creating a childcare plan with a neighbor or co-op to support each other during late-night calls.·      Doula work, business tips, and bartering. 5:21o  Ravae Sinclair suggests creating a business that supports birthing and postpartum families, such as meal prep or childbirth education, to help balance work and family life.o  Denise Bolds adds that there is a growing market for nutrition and meal prep services, and that skills in areas like yoga or art therapy can also be applied to parenting and family development.o  Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the option of bartering as a way for doulas to receive payment for their services, but Denise notes that this is not a common practice in New York City due to the limited availability of doulas and the need for them to work independently.o  Both Ravae and Denise agree that paying doula services off in installments is a more common practice in their area, with families paying for services as they receive them rather than all at once.·      Contracts and exchanges in birth doula work. 10:53o  Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of written contracts for exchanging goods or services.o  Ravae Sinclair discusses challenges with upfront payments for birth and postpartum work, including the risk of non-refundable contracts and PayPal refunds.·      Birth work excellence and virtual doula support. 13:49o  Start services ASAP to avoid losing potential clients.o  Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of promptly responding to clients and providing clear instructions for the next steps in the onboarding process.o  They emphasize the need to be responsive and proactive in communicating with clients, especially when it comes to exchanging deposits and initiating the onboarding process.o  Ravae Sinclair discusses virtual doula support reducing C-sections by 60%, with a higher impact on Black women.·      Virtual doula work challenges and skills. 19:52o  Denise Bolds highlights the importance of assessment skills in virtual doula work, using her experience as a social worker to provide valuable insights.o  Virtual doula work has become more prevalent since the pandemic, with successful cases in various locations, despite initial skepticism.o  Ravae Sinclair discusses the challenges of virtual doula work, including disruptions from technology and lack of continuity in support.o  Denise Bolds emphasizes the importance of being able to see and read people's emotions and reactions in real-time, which can be difficult with virtual technology.o  Ravae Sinclair shares her experience as a virtual doula, navigating technical issues and preparing partners for birth while remote.o  Ravae emphasizes the importance of staying connected and consistent for virtual doula work, especially for inexperienced practitioners.Virtual Doula (part 2)SummaryPricing for virtual doula services vs in-person support.Ravae Sinclair discusses...

Introduction: What are you watching on TV?Doula work and TV shows. 0:26Denise Bolds shares her TV viewing habits, mentioning she's in a doctoral program.Denise and Ravae discuss Black Cake, a Hulu series based on a book, with a focus on Black storytelling and family history.Ravae and Denise discuss TV shows, including "Gilded Age" and "Queen Charlotte," and share their thoughts on the episodes they've watched.Doula SkillsIntellectual Property Protection. 5:06Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of registering intellectual property with the US Copyright Office.Copyright protection for creative work. Ravae Sinclair explains the importance of copyrighting original work to protect it from being stolen or misused.Filing a copyright with the US Copyright Office can provide an automatic judgment against someone who infringes on your work, without the need for a court case.Ravae Sinclair shares her experience of having her work stolen and sold by another birth worker, emphasizing the importance of respecting peers' intellectual property.Ravae helps a client create a contract using a template from Ravae's website, but the client admits to piecing it together from multiple sources, including Ravae's original template that was found on Google.Protecting intellectual property through copyright registration. 12:30Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of protecting intellectual property through copyright registration, citing her own experience with someone using her language without permission.Denise Bolds agrees, noting that people often infringe on intellectual property without realizing it, and emphasizes the need to take action to protect oneself.Ravae Sinclair describes feeling violated after discovering someone had used her copyrighted material without permission.Denise Bolds empathizes with Sinclair's emotions, likening the experience to someone taking her own creative work without permission.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the issue of intellectual property theft in the birth work industry, with Ravae sharing knowledge of a birth worker's website being copied by a competitor.Denise Bolds mentions a birth worker who stole another woman's intellectual property, and Ravae refuses to promote the organization due to ethical concerns.Doula SkillHow to identify a quality doula trainer and community support. 18:54Doula trainers must be held accountable for quality training, says Denise Bolds.Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of choosing a doula trainer with hands-on experience in the birth room during COVID-19.They highlight the lack of practical knowledge among some doula trainers who have not supported a birth in years and cannot provide up-to-date training.Doula trainers must provide ongoing support and community connections to be effective.Doula training and postpartum care during the pandemic. 20:36Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the limitations of doula trainers who are disconnected from their communities and lack knowledge of current policies and changes in the industry.Doulas need trainers who are plugged in and connected to their communities to provide support and understand the new challenges of doing business during the pandemic.Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds share their experiences as doulas during the pandemic, highlighting the importance of trainers having practical experience in the field.They emphasize the need for trainers to understand the realities of doula work, including...

Introduction What are you reading?Memoirs, resilience, and black women's experiences. 0:00Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss books they're reading. Denise is reading "The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks" and "Recovering Black Storytelling and Qualitative Research."Denise Bolds shares her interest in storytelling and its importance in preserving cultural heritage.Ravae Sinclair shares her thoughts on Jada Pinkett Smith's memoir "Worthy," appreciating her resilience as a black woman and surviving difficult experiences.Ravae found the book entertaining and thought-provoking, but lost interest in the last chapter due to its "woowoo" nature.Doula SkillsDoula match.net, member directories, and networking. 9:33Ravae Sinclair highlights the importance of signing up for directories to attract clients, such as DoulaMatch.net.Denise Bolds shares her advocacy for discounted membership fees for BIPOC and Indigenous doulas on Doula Match, as a result of her pandemic-related efforts.Denise Bolds advocated for a flag on doula match.net to identify Black birth workers, which Kim James developed and implemented.Ravae Sinclair appreciates Denise's advocacy skills.Ravae Sinclair suggests using member directories and platforms like Bornbir to connect with other doulas and grow your business.Bornbir offers a free directory of families looking for doulas, but requires a monthly subscription to access contact information.Doula directories and lead generation strategies. 14:14Parents can search for birth workers on various directories, including HelloMeela, Poppy Seed (black-owned), and Boober (focused on breastfeeding).Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss directories and lead generation strategies for doulas and birth workers, including identifying providers with preferred provider lists and making deals with providers for referrals.Bolds and Sinclair also discuss the importance of having business cards ready at births to receive referrals from OBs and midwives.Denise Bolds suggests sending a thank-you note or small gift to front desk staff at hospitals, as they play a crucial role in connecting clients with doulas.Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of building relationships with complementary practice and beliefs, and getting on the list of preferred providers at hospitals to increase visibility and potential for referrals.Doula business growth strategies. 20:40Denise Bolds suggests including complete demographics in email footers to make it easy for others to refer businesses.Ravae Sinclair agrees, emphasizing the importance of having a professional image and consistent contact information across platforms.Ravae Sinclair suggests finding a platform that fits your budget and sticking with it for at least 3-4 months to get clients.Ravae Sinclair suggests doulas collaborate with other professionals, such as agencies or other doulas, to build their businesses.She also recommends affiliate work, where doulas refer clients to each other and receive a kickback for successful sales.Certificate issues in doula training. a...

·      Doula skills and backup support during the holiday season. 0:08o  Ravae Sinclair and Denise Both share what's in their cups during a podcast episode.o  Doulas seek backup support during holiday season and beyond.·      Doula backup and communication. 3:43o  Doula discusses importance of having a backup doula for support during birth.o  Doula shares experiences with clients and other doulas, emphasizing importance of clear communication and contracts.·      Backup doulas and their importance in childbirth. 7:19o  Backup doula should vet clients and lawyers, develop go-twos for support.o  Ravae & Denise discuss strategies for finding backup doulas and reducing anxiety for clients.o  Offer virtual doula services if there are limited in-person matches for a family's preferences.o  Establish a backup doula contract with a written agreement to avoid confusion and ensure fair compensation.·      Backup doulas for birth workers during pandemic. 13:43o  Ravae & Denise discuss importance of having a backup doula for client support and self-care.o  Ravae suggests adapting to pandemic by disclosing limited experience, undergirding with backup support.·      Ethics in doula work and backup doulas. 16:51o  Denise discovers $1,000 discrepancy in payment for supporting client through prodromal labor.o  Denise supports client through multiple prodromal births, totaling 3-4 days.o  Ravae warns against overextending oneself as a doula, risking burnout and compromising quality of care.o  Denise highlights the importance of backup support and fair compensation for doulas, citing a specific example of a Black doula taking advantage of a less experienced doula.·      Doula backup support during long labors. 22:33o  Denise discusses managing long labors without a backup doula, and the potential use of an honorarium for backup support.o  Ravae discusses her use of backup doulas for support during long labor.·      Race and representation in birth work organizations. 26:07o  Ravae highlights the trend of white-led organizations using BIPOC faces without proper representation or credit.o  Ravae notices a trend of Black faces in corporate messaging and podcasting, while Denise shares their experiences as a Black person in the US, highlighting the exhaustion of constantly advocating for equity and inclusion.o  Denise’s podcast on Lamaze and Bradley methods was popular, but they stepped back due to lack of diversity in the organization and its teaching materials.o  Denise criticizes Lamaze for not doing enough for Black birth workers, including revoking certifications of some test takers.·      Image usage and ownership in a nonprofit organization. 32:51o  Ravae Sinclair discusses her experience with DONA International, including being dismissed from the board with no explanation and her image still being used without permission.o  Ravae shares her experience of being the first Black president of the organization in its history, and the ongoing issue of image usage without permission.·      Image rights and usage for birth workers. 35:05o  Ravae & Denise discuss barriers to...

·      Current events, menopause, and beverages. 0:08o  Denise Bolds shares her drink of choice, French onion bone broth, and discusses its benefits for intermittent fasting.o  Ravae Sinclair share her drink of choice, sweet tea with Apple Crown Royal. ·      Breastfeeding organization's apology for promoting expensive postpartum service. 2:24o  Organization apologizes for inflammatory blog post and seeks context for further harm assessment.o  Executive director criticizes luxury breastfeeding facility for excluding marginalized communities.o  Ravae Sinclair highlights the importance of recognizing health equity issues in lactation support, particularly for families who cannot afford postpartum convalescent places like Boram.o  Denise Bolds agrees and suggests that the article could have provided more community resources for lactation support beyond Boram, to make it more accessible and inclusive for all families.·      Doula skills and techniques for new doulas. 9:38o  Doulas seek advice on how to build trust and communication with clients beyond initial interviews.o  Doula uses prenatal questionnaire and checklists to help families prepare for meetings and educate them on birth preferences.·      Doula skills, active listening, and prenatal questionnaires. 13:28o  Ravae Sinclair uses the prenatal questionnaire to gather information about the client's preferences and expectations, while also assessing their listening and communication skills.o  Denise Bolds emphasizes the importance of doulas being good listeners and assessors, and bringing balance to the conversation to ensure both partners are heard and involved in the decision-making process.o  Doulas should prioritize active listening and making the conversation about the birthing family to build trust and rapport.o  Zoom can still provide valuable information through body language and facial expressions, even when cameras are turned off or not fully engaged.o  Parents share personal experiences and concerns during prenatal questionnaire, with the goal of creating a space for self-expression and decision-making.·      Giving undivided attention during virtual calls. 21:02o  Speakers emphasize the importance of giving undivided attention to clients during virtual meetings, even if it means finding a quiet space or turning off distractions.o  Doulas should prioritize clients' needs and demonstrate their focus and expertise to instill confidence and trust.·      Celebrity postpartum behavior and pressure to "snap back". 23:54o  Ravae Sinclair notes the trend of celebrities and influencers promoting immediate postpartum exercise, despite the potential risks to new mothers' health and well-being.o  Denise Bolds shares their personal experience of having a supportive village during their pregnancy and birth, contrasting with the lack of support many millennial clients face today.o  Naomi Osaka returned to the gym just a week after giving birth, sparking concerns about the pressure to snap back to pre-baby body quickly.o  Chrisean, a social media personality, also returned to the gym after having a baby, with some people praising her for her quick recovery and others criticizing her for promoting unrealistic beauty standards.·      Postpartum care and pressure to return to pre-birth shape....

Join us for a captivating journey through the world of healthcare careers and the unique challenges faced in the birth world. In this episode, we dive deep into the experiences of two remarkable individuals who have dedicated their lives to making a difference in maternal health and beyond.(0:10) Denise Bolds shares her incredible 40-year healthcare career journey, taking us from her beginnings as an x-ray technician to her current role as a doula in the heart of NYC. We explore the highs and lows, the triumphs, and the stigmas she encountered along the way.(1:58) Doula Ravae steps into the spotlight, recounting her 22-year career in the world of birth work, touching on her involvement in politics and perinatal health. Ravae's personal journey takes an unexpected twist as she shares her transition from birth work to criminal defense law, showcasing the stark contrast between love and connection versus the chaos and sadness she has witnessed.(5:56) As a doula trainer and mentor, Ravae has spent two decades supporting over 815 families in births and breastfeeding education. In this segment, she delves into the world of personal growth and entrepreneurship, sharing the wisdom she has gained over the years.(7:26) Discover how Ravae is embarking on an exciting new venture, starting a perinatal health association, despite initial hesitations. Denise's unwavering support and encouragement for Ravae to take risks and try new things highlight the bond between these two incredible women.(11:12) In our final segment, doulas Ravae and Denise engage in an insightful conversation about their experiences and insights in the field of birth work, discussing the controversies and leadership challenges they've encountered. They invite you to join their "girlfriend chat" as they openly and honestly explore topics related to maternal health, family, and the intricacies of running a business.Tune in to gain valuable insights into the world of healthcare careers, navigate through stigmas in the birth world, and explore the remarkable journeys of two doula pioneers who are changing the landscape of maternal health.------------------------------------------------How to find us:Ravae Sinclair @birthconnections and natlbirthpostpartumprosDenise Bolds @BoldDoula and @blackwomendovbacWebsite: www.doulathatpodcast.comIG:@doulathatpodcastPlatforms: Apple, Spotify, Stitcher & Google