Bread & Butter

This episode walks you through the rise of FlakeBake and the decisions that shaped one of the strongest growth stories in UK food. Mike shares how he moved from his dad’s takeaway in Peckham to a national rollout with Aldi. You see the early graft. Leaflets. Road deliveries. Late night orders. You learn why B2B changed everything. You see how he built trust with local businesses and why understanding your market gives you an advantage.He explains the impact of the last 5 years on the company and why he was ready to walk away. You hear how a TV show changed the direction of the business and the steps he took before the cameras rolled. Product testing. Data. Packaging. Food scientists. You learn why Aldi listed his product in 1,000 stores and why the launch sold out in hours.You get a real look into his approach to scale. Outsourcing. Team structure. Quality control. Negotiation. Working with manufacturers. Raising visibility through influencers. You hear how he handled setbacks, including unpaid invoices and credit risk.The episode also highlights the role of culture, community and family. You see how his Jamaican heritage shaped the product. You see how his father’s graft shaped his discipline. You see why he supports young entrepreneurs and why he pushes to build pathways for the next generation.If you want to understand growth with limited resources, this gives you a clear blueprint. The lessons here serve anyone building a product, growing a service, or planning to scale.Subscribe, share, and join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, early drops, and live sessions with Tayo & Eman.https://patreon.com/BreadButterPod?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan&utm_content=copyLink🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe!The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more!Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/breadandbutterpodTiktokhttp://www.tiktok.com/@breadandbutterpodSpotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2K5C6kp4dyDQ31NLF2dZBq?si=e363db3263344d09Apple Musichttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bread-butter/id1732266147 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Money changes your lifestyle. The question is whether it changes who you are. Tayo and Eman sit in Dubai and take this apart with simple, honest reflections. They look at the link between higher earnings and rising confidence. They speak on how easy it is to attach your self worth to your income. Faith sits at the centre of their answer. Faith keeps you steady when your income rises and when it drops. It gives you a view of yourself that money cannot give or take away. They explore the tension between saving for the future and spending for memories. You hear why choosing one “vice” protects your financial plan. You also hear how life events shift the way you see money. Eman explains why losing his dad pushed him to invest in moments with his family instead of hoarding every pound. They address how money changes relationships. More money shifts your time, your habits and your friendship circles. It affects dating and marriage. They warn against leading with money, because you start a relationship on the wrong terms. If you create a lifestyle from day one, the bond weakens the moment money slows down. They speak on the pressure men feel to link identity to income. That pressure harms mental health. It creates highs that feel addictive and lows that feel shameful. Faith and self knowledge give you a base that money cannot shake. They end with the responsibility to teach children respect, values and a healthy view of money. Wealth without character leads nowhere. If you feel guilty for spending, scared of losing money, or pressured to appear wealthy, this conversation helps you slow down, think clearly and build a healthier relationship with money. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From fleeing war in Angola to running one of the last Portuguese restaurants standing in Camden, to launching a cloud kitchen and Airbnbs while raising a son in Dubai. Denise Cabral walks through the grit behind her “overnight success”. She shares how her parents built from nothing in Portugal and London, why community kept their family restaurant alive, and what it took to relaunch the brand in Dubai after a deal on her UK house fell through. Tayo and Eman dig into: • The story behind Otinos, from “Little Portugal” in Camden to Dubai • Parents fleeing war, not speaking English, and still building a legacy • How community kept the restaurant alive when others closed • The reality of restaurant life, old tills, cash runs and stock going off • Why she chose a cloud kitchen first, then plans for a full restaurant • Moving to Dubai as a single mum and starting again without the money she expected • Using Airbnb in Portugal to fund the Dubai move • Work ethic in Dubai vs UK, visas, and why people move differently when there is a deadline • Staff, interviews, “hire slow, fire fast” and finding people who buy into the vision • Delayed gratification, raising a humble son in a flashy city, and aiming for 30 million in five years If you are thinking about moving abroad, opening a food business or juggling motherhood and entrepreneurship, this one speaks straight to you. Subscribe, share, and join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, early drops, and live sessions with Tayo & Eman. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tayo and Eman sit down with Sandra Igwe, founder and CEO of The Motherhood Group and Black Mums App, for a raw conversation on black motherhood, the NHS, and building a serious social impact business from pain and purpose. Sandra shares how a traumatic birth, a legal fight with her local trust, and years in law and social enterprise pushed her to build The Motherhood Group. Today her organisation supports thousands of black mums through antenatal and postnatal support, conferences, training, research, and tech, while working with NHS trusts, law firms, and policymakers. They talk about why black families do not trust institutions, why fear is often a more honest word than trust, and how Sandra became a bridge between the community and services. She breaks down how she went from a WhatsApp group and a “ugly” first flyer to a seven figure organisation, why she says yes then works it out, and why people doing purpose-led work must charge and build structure. If you care about black maternal health, social impact, money with meaning, or you want to turn your own story into something bigger, this one is for you. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tayo and Eman sit in Dubai and look at the UK through fresh eyes. The contrast starts the moment they land. A suite in Business Bay costs less than a budget hotel back home. Service feels intentional. Staff take pride in their work. People move with purpose. You see progress in real time and you feel valued for being there. The conversation shifts to the UK and the coming Autumn Budget. The pressure on everyday people shows in every policy. Cuts to dividend allowances change how business owners take income. Talk of an exit tax pushes high earners to think twice about staying in the country. Stamp duty reform signals a move from one-off payments to ongoing charges. ISA limits stay frozen while house prices move beyond the bands set years ago. These decisions shape how families save, invest and plan their future. Housing sits at the centre. Landlords have been squeezed for years. Many now pay out of their own pocket to keep properties running. When they sell, the homes rarely go to first-time buyers. Supply drops. Rents rise. Tenants face more pressure. Buyers feel blocked by limits that no longer reflect real property prices. A system designed to help people onto the ladder now leaves many locked out. The boys look at the wider issue of value. Tax is not the problem. People accept tax when they see improvement in services, infrastructure and daily life. In the UK, roads crumble while charges increase. Speed limits fall. Fines multiply. Public services strain. The return feels weak compared with the cost. Dubai offers a direct comparison. The place is not cheap. You spend money. Yet you see what you pay for. Clean streets. Fast service. Order. Safety. Efficiency. People feeling proud of the work they do. That difference shapes how motivated you feel to grow, earn and build. The episode closes on a personal moment. A quiet flight, a song in the headphones and a memory of Eman’s dad breaks the noise. Grief hits without warning. Pride follows. He sees himself living a dream his dad held for the family. That mix of loss and legacy sets the tone for a reflective end to the discussion. This episode speaks to anyone who saves, invests, owns a business, drives or raises a family in the UK. The decisions made in the next budget will touch every part of daily life. Tayo and Eman break the issues down with clarity, honesty and real experience from both sides of the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Most people ask “When do I finally enjoy?” We argue you can enjoy now, without wrecking the plan. In this episode we break down seasons of graft (9–12 months), the difference between a one-off treat and an ongoing liability, and why the richer you get, the stricter your guardrails must become. From upgrading a flight as a one-off to saying no to the shiny monthly E-Class payment, we show you how to design enjoyment that doesn’t sabotage momentum. We also get real about delegation (quality dips before it compounds), compliance and insurance as you scale, and building a life where your income fits your lifestyle goals,  not the other way around. You’ll hear how we manage family-first spending (birthdays planned in advance, school shop days, cinema mornings), why we love time-zone arbitrage (Dubai mornings + UK clients = head start), and how we “industrialise” good habits (home gym, early barbers, calendar blocks). We talk practical finance too: fund the car/holiday from a new income stream, not your main pot; if a car is ~£400/mth, build £100/week first. Plus: values-led money moves (BYD vs Benz, selling Tesla shares), and the mindset shift that keeps your lifestyle from creeping while the business grows. Highlights One-off vs monthly: enjoy in bursts, not bills Seasons of graft: give it 9–12 months of focused work Compliance mindset: more profit = tighter guardrails Delegation & scale: accept the dip to earn the compounding Lifestyle by design: earn in pounds, live where suits you Family-first enjoyment: memories that compound The seeds → crops framework: plant income, spend harvest Subscribe, share, and join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, early drops, and live sessions with Tayo & Eman. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Most people are waiting for policy to save them, a new government, a better economy, a miracle. But that wait keeps you broke. In this episode of The Bread & Butter Podcast, Tayo and Eman get real about what it takes to build freedom in the UK right now. From turning £10K into real leverage to structuring your income between the UK and Dubai, this is the blueprint for keeping more of what you earn and using it wisely. They break down how salaries have barely moved in 20 years, why side hustles now beat promotions, and how smart use of ISAs, pensions, and business structures can create options instead of stress. Eman explains how splitting income between the UK’s allowances and Dubai’s 9% corporation tax created an “instant pay rise.” It’s not about escaping the system, it’s about learning how to play it better. Beyond the numbers, this episode is about balance, family, faith, and focus. Tayo opens up about building platforms with his wife and staying grounded in marriage and fatherhood. Eman reflects on parenting wins, the realities of visibility, and learning to protect your peace as your success grows. The message is clear: nobody’s coming to save you. You have to move faster than policy, think beyond comfort, and design a life that gives you freedom, not just a payslip. If you’ve ever said “I just need a plan,” this is it. Practical money moves, side hustle strategy, and a mindset reset, all in one conversation. Subscribe, share, and join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, early drops, and live sessions with Tayo & Eman. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Everyone loves the glam side of business, the cars, the followers, the “I just bought another company” moments. But the truth? Real business is boring. The successful ones do the ugly bits over and over again, the accounting, the tenders, the HR headaches, and the contracts nobody reads. In this episode, we sit down with Tej Talks, the entrepreneur behind an £80K-a-month cleaning business, to break down what it actually takes to buy and grow companies, often without spending your own money. From the reality of buying a business for £50K and turning it into £250K in revenue, to why most people lose money because they refuse to spend £200 on advice, this is one of the most honest business conversations online. We also talk about: Integrity vs. hype in the property and business space How personal brand builds investor trust Why “boring is profitable” Mergers, acquisitions, and avoiding expensive mistakes The pink Porsche story 👀 If you’ve ever said “I want to buy a business” after watching a TikTok — watch this first. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Men fear marriage will cost them everything. We argue the opposite: with the right person, marriage is protection, growth, and focus. The danger isn’t commitment, it’s confusing performance for partnership. Wedding inflation and viral proposals can seduce you into spending for comments instead of building for your future. That’s because social media isn’t “just social” social media is media, and if you let it set your standards, it will also set your debts. The antidote is selection and standards: choose before you “blow,” when character is loudest and the crowd is quietest. Pick independence, shared values, resilience and a pace of life that fits your pockets, not the internet’s highlight reel. Protection starts with who you build with and who can challenge you. Accountability circles matter because love can make smart people move mad; you need brethren who will pull you back to sense. Inside the relationship, love languages have to land in real life, consistency, listening and follow-through beat grand gestures that don’t speak to your partner’s heart. When you align values, habits and goals, stability shows up. Stability creates focus, focus compounds into results, one reason so many high earners and owners are married. If you’ve ever asked, “How do I protect myself?” start by protecting your selection. Build with someone who was already building, so when life swings, your household doesn’t. And if this conversation helps you think clearer and choose better, plug into the community for ad-free episodes, live backchat, and bonus game from our guests. The pod is free; the mission isn’t, your support lets us keep turning wisdom into wins. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Influencer rates aren’t random, they’re math. In this episode, Safiyah (Director at Connect Management) lifts the lid on how fees are actually set: deliverables, usage rights, exclusivity windows, sector dynamics, whitelisting/paid media, and repurposing across platforms. We dig into how micro-creators turn consistency into full-time income, why affiliate + base hybrids often outperform “flat fee only,” and the payment structures (monthly/quarterly) that protect creators’ cash flow.We also get real about representation: historic underpayment, how to advocate for equal rates, and what great managers do to push back without burning bridges. Safiyah shares how to navigate rooms where you’re the only one, turning visibility into credibility, and clarifies PR vs. Marketing in one line you’ll never forget.If you’re a creator, manager, or brand, this is a playbook for deals that perform and pay. You’ll learn: Pricing levers: usage, exclusivity, deliverable scope, sector, whitelisting, repurposing Micro vs. macro: ambassadorships, affiliate structures, and what “good” looks like Cash flow: negotiating quarterly payouts and clear KPIs PR vs. Marketing (different targets, different KPIs, different budgets) Fair pay & representation: setting standards, pushing back, staying professional Manager POV: what makes brands say yes, and what gets deals rejected Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joy isn’t the same as happiness and for Qoy, that distinction changed everything. In this episode, she traces the moments she chose joy over expectation: rejecting a private-school scholarship after watching how her mum was treated, walking away from a high-paid job that drained her spirit, and building a show with no rules simply because she knew the world would enjoy her being herself. What begins as South vs East banter becomes a bigger conversation about identity, free will, and the quiet courage it takes to leave “good on paper” environments that are bad for your soul. Qoy talks faith without preaching, boundaries without bitterness, and the unglamorous truth that there are no shortcuts only the hard you choose and the hard you love. We dig into originality as strategy, not slogan. Qoy breaks down how turning YouTube into a living portfolio led to real cheques and real rooms, where asking isn’t “begging” but professional curiosity that opens doors. She owns her pricing mistakes (“they would’ve paid me thousands more”) and maps the uncomfortable climb from freelancer to business owner: moving from vibes to systems, from solo to teams, from reactive gigs to B2B services. Along the way, London is both backdrop and teacher, South London grit meeting Somerset House polish, proof that where you’re from can be an asset if you know how to carry it. If you’re 18–25 (or just early in a new chapter), this is part blueprint, part nudge: take five years to try everything, document what works, learn fast, and protect your joy like it pays your bills, because one day, it might. Like, comment, and share with a friend who needs the reminder that purpose over paycheck. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What if you could take luck out of business? In this Bread & Butter episode, Tayo and Eman sit down with Masibu “Mas” Manima, founder of Translate Culture (performance marketing for consumer brands) and Direct to Culture(connecting Black-owned media with brands), to break down how real growth actually happens. We go past “post and pray” marketing into a practical, test-and-learn system: form a hypothesis, run controlled experiments (ads), extract the signal, and iterate until you’ve built a repeatable engine.Mas explains why many founders start from pressure (job/finances) and how that can trap us in short-term thinking, chasing vanity metrics or leaning only on friends/WhatsApp. Instead, he shows how to treat ads as feedback at scale: identify your funnel stage (awareness → consideration → conversion), set the right objective, and measure what matters (email capture, CAC, ROAS, LTV). We get specific on lookalike audiences, retargeting hot lists, picking seasonal bestsellers, and how to validate demand cheaply before you go all-in, so you can stop guessing and start scaling.We also dig into the checkout reality: friction kills sales. If your site doesn’t support ultra-fast payments (e.g., Apple Pay), every extra step is money lost. Mas breaks down TikTok Shop as a once-in-a-cycle opportunity, why distribution beats product in the early days, and how bigger, less crowded markets (hello, pets) can be smarter than piling into the same niches. He’s candid about pricing, serving community without undercharging forever, and turning his biggest L (a failed home show that hit the wedding fund) into a career-defining W, proof that planting seeds pays off, just not always on your timeline.🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe!The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of the Bread & Butter Podcast, we sit down with Eldried Samba, the community architect and entrepreneur who helped power Gymshark’s rise from a small UK fitness start-up to a global brand. Alfred’s journey begins in Congo, where he and his family came to the UK as asylum seekers. From those humble beginnings, he built a career defined by creativity, discipline, and community. At Gymshark, he pioneered strategies that transformed the women’s line from just 5% of the business to more than 80%, proving the power of underrepresented voices and authentic marketing. He also opens up about his personal growth, overcoming fear of public speaking, using NLP to sharpen communication, and applying lessons from Kobe Bryant’s discipline and preparation. Alfred explains how AI tools like ChatGPT have become his secret weapon for turning creativity into structure, helping leaders stay ahead of the curve. Beyond the wins, Alfred reflects on the challenges, trying to solve the world’s problems before his own, learning to put himself first, and choosing independence over comfort. His story is a reminder that success is not just about achieving goals, but about reinvention, resilience, and building platforms that serve communities. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Bread & Butter, Tayo & E-man get real about modern retirement. Pensions matter, but they’re not the whole plan. We break down how to combine AI skills, rent-to-rent cashflow, investing, and social capital to retire on your terms (not a government timetable). Real stories, real numbers, and practical prompts you can use today, from using ChatGPT to negotiate contracts and write emails, to reverse-engineering your monthly retirement income across multiple streams. What you’ll learn Why treating AI like the gym (daily reps!) can 10x your efficiency, and even create roles for you at work Pensions 101 (plus why most people still need other income streams) and a simple 10–15% rule of thumb Rent-to-rent explained: cashflow now vs. equity later, ideal guest profiles (contractors/insurance), and scaling How to use ChatGPT for contract red flags, policy T&Cs, tone-perfect emails, and scripts that actually convert Social capital over follower count: why 200 true supporters can outrun 200k passive followers The “5 x £1k” retirement framework to hit a target like £5k/month without relying on a single source 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this week’s Bread & Butter, Eman and Tayo sit down with Gabriel Sion, commercial property & hospitality operator, for a no-fluff masterclass on building real businesses, managing risk, and looking after family while you grind. Gabriel Sion, operator, investor and straight-talker, breaks down how he turned derelict buildings into cash-flowing venues, why he hates hospitality (but wins at it), and the realities of being seen as a “role model” while still figuring life out. The boys dig into covert discrimination in events, contributing at home vs stunting growth, preparing for parents’ retirement and care, stealth wealth, watches and safety, what it really costs to live in London, and the property myths (new builds, shared ownership) that trap people. Gabriel shares his biggest win (Birmingham) and biggest L (a £40k spread-bet wipeout), plus why mentorship with accountability (and fines!) keeps him sharp. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of the Bread & Butter Podcast, Tayo and Eman dive deep into the power of continuous growth, the myth of perfection, and the importance of community-driven solutions. From laughing about filming with unexpected spots to reflecting on how far their content creation journeys have come, the duo emphasise the value of getting 1% better every day. The conversation expands into bigger questions: what would it look like if the Black community in the UK pooled resources into a billion-pound fund? They explore trust, accountability, and the role creators play in shaping financial futures. Along the way, they touch on Stormzy’s grassroots impact, Franklin’s achievements at Coutts, and why creators now hold the kind of influence once reserved for traditional media. As always, they keep it real with W’s & L’s of the week—from family celebrations to the struggles of balancing business, family life, and growth. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of the Bread & Butter Podcast, Tayo and Eman sit down with Property by Kazy, developer, investor, content creator, and community builder. From flipping homes in London to building a trusted education platform, Kazi breaks down his journey into property, the importance of integrity in business, and why documenting your wins and losses matters. The conversation dives deep into how to build a brand with longevity, the challenges of referrals and reputation, and how social media has shifted the landscape for property and finance. Kazi also opens up about balancing ambition with contentment, the real cost of success, and why time is the ultimate currency. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, budding investor, or just someone navigating your own hustle, this episode is packed with gems about resilience, reputation, and real wealth. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of the Bread & Butter Podcast, Tayo and Eman kick things off with summer nostalgia, from London heatwaves to playing football in Dubai’s 40-degree sun. The conversation soon shifts into Canary Wharf, the City, and the role of wealth in the UK economy. They unpack how billionaires and millionaires use debt and assets to avoid taxation, why wealth tax debates keep resurfacing, and the tension between taxing the rich vs supporting everyday workers. They compare systems in the UK, Switzerland, and the US, explore how inheritance tax is “a voluntary tax,” and debate whether policies aimed at the ultra-wealthy end up hurting ordinary families instead. The hosts stress that financial education is the real bridge, reframing debt, understanding tax efficiency, and encouraging more people into higher-earning brackets. The episode closes with their weekly W’s and L’s, from releasing a financial course to struggling with kids on half-term and an invitation for listeners to play “Chancellor for a Day” and share what tax policies they would implement. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Balancing marriage and business is no easy feat. Eman and Tayo reflect on the early days of married life, which brought sudden pregnancies, immigration challenges, family tensions, and shifting careers, all at once. Neither felt truly “ready” for fatherhood, but both agree readiness comes from doing, not waiting. Eman admits he nearly sabotaged his marriage by saying “yes” to every speaking event for the thrill, even when poorly paid. The turning point came when he started scheduling family commitments first, giving his wife full access to his diary, and learning to decline opportunities that didn’t align with his priorities. They agree that intentionality, making conscious time for each other, is just as vital to a marriage as to a business. They push back against the idea of “separate lives” in marriage, warning that growing in isolation can lead to growing apart. Shared friendships, mutual experiences, and surrounding themselves with other married couples help them stay connected and counter the negative narratives about marriage often found online. Trusted peers who know both spouses provide honest accountability and balanced advice when challenges arise. Marriage, is like the gym, constant, intentional effort is required to keep it strong. Small, consistent actions like biweekly breakfast meetings, taking the kids out to give their partner a break, or showing up for school events go a long way. Ultimately, they see a thriving marriage as the foundation for business success; when their relationships are solid, creativity, focus, and professional performance follow naturally. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tayo and Eman dive deep into the world of balancing a full-time career with entrepreneurship, as they chat with Beatrice from the Uncut Podcast. Beatrice opens up about her journey, sharing how she successfully juggles her role as a strategy consultant with running a podcast. She discusses the importance of financial stability from her day job, and how it supports her entrepreneurial aspirations without placing immediate pressure on her business. The conversation explores the concept of thriving under pressure, with Beatrice emphasising how operating in chaos can lead to increased productivity and efficiency. She also talks about the role of mentorship in the podcasting world, and how collaborations with seasoned creators helped her navigate the complexities of building a platform. They also touch on the realities of working in a predominantly white environment and the challenges that come with it, while highlighting the support of close-knit communities and friends. The episode is a candid look at the determination, resilience, and consistency needed to build a successful career and podcast. Beatrice also opens up about the joy of owning her first home and how financial education shaped her journey. This episode is perfect for anyone looking to balance a demanding career with side projects, while staying true to personal values and building a legacy. 🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe! The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices