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Welcome to The Scouting Australia Podcast, where each week, you’ll be guided by two of Australia’s most seasoned property experts, Sam Gordon and James Ibrahim. Sam is one of Australia’s leading and most award winning property investors (Strategic Investor of the year 2020 and Buyers Agent of the Year 2024), and founder and director of Australian Property Scout Buyers Agency. Along with his co-host James, an experienced and aggressive property investor, they dive deep into all things property investing. With years of experience and proven strategies, they tackle the tough questions and provide the latest, most actionable advice in the market. You’ll walk away educated, empowered, and ready to level up your investing game – all with a good dose of humour along the way. Got questions? The boys love hearing from listeners, so don’t hesitate to send them in!
*Scouting Australia Podcast’ is a production by ’Australian Property Scout Buyers Agency’ with all owned rights by Australian Property Scout. Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this communication. We do not accept liability for any loss or damage in people property portfolios and all advice given within this podcast is general advice. Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 2023 6885 | ABN: 64 638 266 369*
*Scouting Australia Podcast’ is a production by ’Australian Property Scout Buyers Agency’ with all owned rights by Australian Property Scout. Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this communication. We do not accept liability for any loss or damage in people property portfolios and all advice given within this podcast is general advice. Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 2023 6885 | ABN: 64 638 266 369*
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In this week’s episode, host Sammy Gordon and guest Jimmy Ibrahim come to you from the Deep South, Melbourne! Diving deep into the progress and vision behind the APS mission to Retire 500 Investors by 2030. The conversation emphasises the mindset, strategies and sacrifices necessary for property investors to achieve substantial passive income, breaking down the math and practical steps to accumulate and consolidate properties for financial freedom. Alongside reflections on navigating market changes and the value of mentoring, Sammy shares insights on leveraging property cycles, maintaining focus on clear financial goals and embracing the journey of wealth creation. This episode is the perfect mix of actionable property investment wisdom with motivating stories, highlighting that financial independence is achievable with discipline and the right guidance.School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy! If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.auSend us your questions to:Instagram: @australianpropertyscoutWant to book a call with us:Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.auAny information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369Chapters:(00:00) Welcome(02:43) Sammy is in Jimmy's home town!(06:36) APS Mission: Retire 500 Investors by 2030(08:38) Why 500? The strategy behind the goal(12:53) Individuals vs couples: what the goal really means(16:13) The retirement passive plan (and why “buy & hope” fails)(19:01) Why most investors fall off track (and how mentoring fixes it)(22:35) Can beginners actually hit this goal?(28:07) Playing it safe vs moving fast (the real risk)(32:23) Scaling smart: why more properties doesn't equal more risk(35:25) Inside APS mentoring: what’s different(43:34) First clients hitting the goal (real stories)(45:28) Beyond 2030: legacy, freedom & choice(49:07) Scaling beyond $120k to $500k+ passive(01:00:07) Breaking down the numbers: how it actually works(01:07:31) “It was easier back then” — myth or fact?(01:12:28) What’s really driving Sam?
Welcome back to the APS News Bulletin, your source for the latest updates and insights from the Australian property market. Join Sammy Gordon, as he breaks down this week's most pressing updates and announcements along with his expert analysis to keep you informed and on top of news. If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!If you're taking tremendous value from these episodes why not share them with your mate? If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.auSend us your questions to:Instagram: @australianpropertyscoutWant to book a call with us:Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.auAny information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369If you enjoyed this episode, please write in and let us know! If you have any news you'd like Sam to share his point of view send us an email at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au.
What does it actually take to build $5.2 million a year in passive income? In this episode, Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim break down Sam’s most ambitious goal yet, building a property portfolio designed to generate life-changing income.
From starting on a modest wage to chasing elite-level results, Sam unpacks the exact mindset, strategies, and calculated risks behind scaling at speed. This isn’t theory, it’s a real blueprint. If you want to think bigger, move faster, and understand how top investors engineer income… this one will change how you see property.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:01:24) Welcome
(00:02:36) Breaking down Sam's $5.2M goal
(00:05:22) The importance of stretching your thinking
(00:10:31) Reverse engineering $5.2M passive per annum
(00:15:34) Portfolio structure, role of debt and commercial vs residential
(00:20:54) Sam's plan with commercial property
(00:24:15) Advice for starting your investing journey
(00:29:44) Leveraging professional support and the right team
(00:31:30) Risk management at scale
(00:38:50) Importance of quality and due diligence in assets
(00:46:05) Consolidation and management efficiency
(00:48:54) Mindset + belief changes
(00:52:14) Fear, motivation & legacy
Join Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim as they dive into the hot topic on every property investor’s lips: are granny flat strategies really dead? Mixing in plenty of banter (along with some personalised plate reveals), they cut through the hype to mythbust the viability of residential cash flow deals like granny flats in today’s market.
The duo discusses why surging construction costs and low yields have made traditional granny flat and residential cash flow plays far less attractive and why they’re pivoting to the stronger returns of commercial property. Whether you’re already invested in grannies or eyeing your next move, this episode is packed with insights to help you future-proof your portfolio.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(01:24) Welcome
(03:29) The big reveal
(09:27) Granny flats & residential cash flow deals: are they dead?
(14:42) When would a granny flat/resi cash flow deal still make sense?
(17:45) Overcoming commercial property fears
(21:58) Sub $1m commercial deals vs. house & granny
(27:34) Existing residential cash flow asset strategy
(30:28) Special podcast announcement
In this dynamic Q&A episode, hosts Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim tackle questions from listeners about navigating the ever-changing Australian property market. The duo dives into hot topics such as the risks of self-managing investment properties, handling valuation shortfalls, dealing with land tax and changing regulations across states along with weighing the pros and cons of buying in natural disaster-prone areas.
They debunk the myths around “buy and hold” strategies and offer actionable advice for investors at every stage of their journey. Packed with real-life examples and plenty of banter, this episode delivers practical, up-to-date property wisdom for investors seeking to take their portfolios to the next level.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(01:18) Welcome
(02:33) Q1: Self-managing properties
(04:02) Q2: Dealing with valuation shortfalls
(06:52) Q3: Staying across changing legislation & land tax
(08:58) Q4: Investing in flood or fire-prone areas
(11:46) Q5: Importance of owner-occupier percentages
(14:16) Q6: Scaling a property portfolio: common roadblocks
(15:13) Q7: If you had to start over
(19:11) Q8: Anon’s question
(21:15) Mindset takeaways
In this long awaited episode, Sammy Gordon sits down with Jimmy Ibrahim to dive deep into his incredible 5 year journey of building a $22 million property portfolio. They cover how Jimmy managed to triple his portfolio in just 2.5 years, from initial setbacks and missed opportunities to executing rapidly and building resilience. The pair discussed key learnings, from treating property investment as a business to the importance of adapting strategies and embracing change. It’s a candid, insightful recap of the last 2.5 years that reveals powerful mindset shifts, offering inspiration and real-world tactics for property investors aiming to reach their own ambitious goals.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(01:18) Welcome
(05:29) Recapping Jimmy portfolio
(07:35) Managing a large portfolio, renos and mindset challenges
(11:11) Realities of rapid portfolio growth
(15:50) Recap: Jimmy’s portfolio 2.5 years ago
(16:55) Breakdown of Jimmy's portfolio size + value
(22:22) Jimmy's goals: $500k passive income goal
(25:37) Breakdown of acquisition activity since 2020
(29:05) Learning from portfolio mistakes
(36:29) What’s next: Growth, consolidation + commercial
(42:05) Should you sell house + granny flat deals?
(48:31) Jimmy’s next moves: 2026 plans
(53:12) Best & worst deals: Highlights & lessons
(56:25) Advice Jimmy would give to his younger self
(58:34) Taking action: How inaction can cost you millions
(01:07:45) The journey: Growth, identity and legacy
In this fan-favourite Roundtable episode, co-hosts Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim welcome Paul Dem, Brendan Geoghegan and Luke Teeuwsen to dive deep into predictions for the Australian housing market heading into 2026.
The group tackles major issues including interest rate movements, population growth, government policy missteps and the widening gap between renters and homeowners. With candid opinions and clear insights, they break down how recent changes, like the expansion of the First Home Buyer Deposit Scheme and looming capital gains tax discussions, could reshape property investing and affordability in Australia. It's more important than every to stay informed and act decisively in a rapidly changing landscape, making this essential listening for anyone navigating Australia’s real estate market.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(01:18) Welcome
(06:20) Rentvesting + lifestyle shifts
(11:31) 2026 predictions: what’s driving demand?
(15:35) Economic conditions, interest rates + inflation
(20:33) Market fear vs. opportunity
(26:39) Population growth vs. housing supply
(31:57) Immigration, skills gaps + political stalemate
(39:32) The IMF warning & policy critiques
(45:37) Capital gains tax changes + investor impacts
(54:23) A looming two-class economy?
(01:02:26) Urgency, opportunity + taking action
(01:12:20) The Australian market in 2026
Join co-hosts Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim, along with APS Portfolio Strategist Luke Teeuwsen to tackle the challenges and opportunities facing first-time property buyers in 2026. The team digs deep into the realities of breaking into the property market, sharing practical numbers and strategies while busting myths around minimum budgets, government deposit schemes and the cultural pressures of keeping up with the Joneses.
They highlight the power of rentvesting, the importance of realistic expectations and the mindset needed to build a substantial portfolio. The episode wraps up with a special code word for first-time buyer discounts and an encouraging reminder that anyone, no matter their age or starting point, can take the steps needed to begin building their property legacy.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:01:18) Welcome
(00:05:13) The reality of getting started in 2026
(00:08:18) Delayed gratification + sacrifices
(00:12:01) Is it harder than ever? Modern vs past challenges
(00:13:34) Cost breakdown of getting into a property
(00:18:22) Government schemes + market impact
(00:26:19) Importance of education
(00:27:49) Secret codeword reveal
(00:29:24) What asset should first-time buyers purchase?
(00:37:30) Blocking out noise and pressure
(00:41:00) How Sam overcame obstacles and fear
WARNING: This podcast discusses depression and suicide.
In this week's investor episode, host Sammy Gordon sits down with 2025 mentoring clients Nathan and Katelyn to unpack their inspiring property investment journey. On the ground in Darwin, this couple shares candid stories of sacrifice, mindset shifts, overcoming personal challenges and massive portfolio growth - highlighting how Nathan and Katelyn went from feeling stuck to acquiring 5 properties in just 12 months.
The conversation dives deep into the importance of community, accountability and the power of running your own race. We can guarantee you will walk away motivated, inspired and get a real glimpse into the supportive culture driving investor's success at APS.
If you or someone you know needs help, confidential, 24/7 support is available in Australia. Reach out to Lifeline at 13 11 14, Beyond Blue at 1300 22 4636, or 000 if life is in immediate danger. These services offer free, non-judgmental assistance for crisis, mental health, or emotional distress
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(01:18) Welcome
(07:02) Breaking down Darwin's market insights
(08:45) Nathan and Katelyn's careers
(12:56) Tall pop syndrome + mindset shifts within APS
(17:40) APS Mentoring Program
(27:31) Sacrifice, mindset + the “victim mentality” chat
(33:02) Bootcamp recap & aps events
(40:19) Property journeys begin: upbringings & inspirations
(55:23) Nathan & Katelyn's first property steps
(01:04:18) Importance of mental health
(01:19:18) Resetting, finding APS & the power of strategy
(01:23:18) The 5 property sprint: What did they buy?
(01:32:18) Running your own race
(01:37:18) Key takeaways for investors
(01:41:18) The role of School of Property
(01:46:18) Rapid-fire Q&A + final words
In this punchy Q&A episode of the Scouting Australia podcast, hosts Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim tackle listener questions live from the Sydney studio. The duo dives into a range of practical property investing topics, including how to assess underperforming assets, the biggest mistakes beginners make, what it really means to buy below market value, the pros and cons of diversification, and strategic decisions around selling versus holding.
They also share valuable tips for managing multiple properties and maintaining the right mindset for scaling your portfolio. Packed with real-life insights, laughter and stories from their own investing journeys, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to up their game in the Australian property market.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:00:00) Welcome
(00:02:30) Assessing Underperforming Properties
(00:05:50) Biggest Beginner Investment Mistakes
(00:09:47) Buying Below Market Value: What Does It Mean?
(00:13:37) Diversification: When to Buy Across States?
(00:17:59) Sell vs Hold: Decision Making When a Property Is Stagnant
(00:21:50) Depreciation: Should You Target Newer Builds?
(00:25:14) Mindset Shifts: Scaling from 1–2 to 5–10 Properties
(00:29:37) Systems & Habits for Managing Multiple Properties
(00:35:14) The Non-Negotiables of Intelligent Investing Today
(00:38:17) Blue Collar vs Blue Chip: Personal Residence Strategy
In this week's episode, Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim dive into and bust the myth that you should follow the herd when investing in property. Sammy shares stories from his recent travels in Darwin, including the infamous Goat Island, while unpacking key lessons about property investing outside mainstream trends. He reflects on his own experiences going against the grain, breaking down why blue-chip, buy-and-hold approaches might leave investors stuck and explaining the power of actively moving capital to outperform the herd. The episode not only challenges traditional investing mindsets but offers practical advice on how to assess strategies, keep velocity in your portfolio and build real wealth by ignoring outdated norms in the property market. This episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to rethink their investment journey.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:00:00) Welcome
(00:01:47) Darwin adventures and highlights
(00:09:42) Property investing mindsets
(00:12:09) Investing against the herd: personal journey
(00:17:34) A deep dive into market cycle timing
(00:21:44) Blue chip vs blue collar + the velocity of money
(00:27:14) The true cost of ‘buy + hold forever’
(00:34:58) Conviction, results and outperforming the herd
(00:38:22) Education, assessing advice and taking action
(00:43:02) Do this to win in property
In this inspiring episode, Sammy Gordon sits down with long-time client and property investor Mark to unpack the journey of building an impressive 11-property portfolio in his early 50s. With honesty and humour, Mark shares the hard-earned lessons and missteps that shaped his investing approach. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just getting started, this episode is packed with practical takeaways about overcoming fear, staying resilient, the power of research and education and working with the right people. If you, or your parents, ever thought it was "too late" to invest and build wealth, this episode will prove otherwise with real numbers, relatable stories and plenty of one liners along the way.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
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Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:01:20) Welcome
(00:04:22) Meet Mark: Why age isn’t a limit
(00:11:03) Importance of research, trust + sticking with the journey
(00:15:37) Transferring knowledge + encouragement to the next generation
(00:20:23) Life in Darwin + regional Australia
(00:25:31) The power of consistent action
(00:30:59) The portfolio overview
(00:36:01) Lessons from 20+ years in property
(00:45:20) How missed opportunities taught lasting lessons
(00:59:23) Entering the investment game with buyers agents
(01:16:01) Portfolio growth with APS
(01:53:22) The engineering of Mark's final portfolio stages
(02:00:47) Why it’s never too late to invest
(02:18:38) Rapid Fire
As part of our Summer Throwback Series, we’re revisiting some of the most impactful episodes our audience loved and shared. This week, we’re thrilled to feature Sammy's episode from The Top 1% Podcast, joined by Jimmy Ibrahim, as they deep dive into his incredible journey.
From a farm kid with no degree, no big salary, and no head start, Sammy went from buying his first investment at 19 to building a 100+ property portfolio by 34. In this episode, he shares the real strategies, mistakes, and mindset shifts that made it possible - and how you can apply them to your own journey.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to grow a 100+ property portfolio without a six-figure salary
The biggest mistakes Sammy made (so you don’t have to)
Why most investors fail and the key to scaling successfully
The truth about financial freedom through property
How Sammy built Australian Property Scout & School of Property to help others achieve the same
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:00:00) Welcome
(00:06:11) Introduction & The 100 Property Milestone
(00:08:41) Growing Up & Work Ethic
(00:14:26) Buying the First Property at 19
(00:21:31) Scaling to Multiple Properties
(00:28:51) Biggest Setback: Losing $10,000 on a Bad Deal
(00:36:21) Going All In: The Turning Point
(00:46:36) Starting a Buyers Agency & The Early Struggles
(00:56:41) Winning Investor of the Year & Scaling Success
(01:06:56) The COVID Property Boom
(01:17:31) Scaling the Business to 50+ Employees
(01:26:16) Managing a 100+ Property Portfolio
(01:36:41) Final Advice for Investors & Entrepreneurs
As part of our Summer Throwback Series, we’re revisiting some of the most popular episodes our audience loved and shared around the most. This week, Sammy Gordon is joined by Jimmy Ibrahim as they step into the proverbial dog run to dive deep into Jimmy Ibrahim's own portfolio.
There are some battle scars on the old dog, and he's been through a lot in his journey and it's time for Sammy to step on the other side of the mic and ask Jimmy all the questions about his own journey and how he built a 10 property portfolio in a few short years.
There were house fires, builds, renovations and business collapses. Almost everything you could think of popping up, Jimmy has tackled. Strap yourself in folks, this one is going to be a good one!
If you're loving the ep please share to someone who could take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au.
If you're taking tremendous value from these episodes why not share them with your mate? If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters:
(00:00:00) Welcome
(00:04:05) Jimmy’s Background & Upbringing
(00:06:37) Jimmy's Pivotal Realisation
(00:15:58) Cruise Ship Adventures to Entrepreneurship
(00:21:44) Business Grit, Setbacks and Lessons Learned
(00:29:15) The COVID-19 Hit: Business Losses and Reset
(00:33:35) Finding a New Path to Meeting Sammy
(00:41:04) Portfolio Beginnings and Past Mistakes
(00:47:53) Turning Point: Going All-In with APS
(00:52:58) Executing the Portfolio Strategy
(01:04:15) Diversifying and Scaling Jimmy's Portfolio
(01:09:12) Mindset, Resilience and Owning Your Money Story
(01:15:21) Portfolio Results and Position
As part of our Summer Throwback Series, we’re revisiting some of the most popular episodes our audience loved and shared around the most. This week, Sammy Gordon is joined by Jimmy Ibrahim as they dive into the actionable strategies to help you take charge of your property investing in 2025 and beyond.
From assessing your current portfolio and setting realistic goals, to making sacrifices and focusing on wealth creation over appearances, this episode is packed with practical advice to ensure you’re executing on your goals. We discuss the importance of working with experts, taking the right advice, and maintaining consistency for long-term success. Whether you’re gearing up for your first deal or scaling your portfolio, this episode will keep you motivated, strategic, and ready to take action NOW.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au.
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters:
(00:00) Welcome
(05:35) Pulse check: where are you at?
(07:09) Setting goals for 2025
(10:59) Assess your current position and next steps
(15:01) What could you sacrifice to get to your first deal?
(16:43) Creating wealth vs pretending to look wealthy
(20:45) Taking the correct advice from the correct team
(27:38) Work with experts more advanced than you
(34:53) Revalue your properties
(41:03) Taking charge of your financial future
(42:51) Solution-based thinking
(47:24) Consistency always outperforms intensity
(55:25) Take action NOW
We’re rolling out our Summer Throwback Series, sharing the episodes that resonated most with our community. This one was a clear favourite. Sammy Gordon welcomes into the studio, APS Strategists Luke Teeuwsen and back by popular demand, Mr Paul Karpierz; along with his co-host Jimmy Ibrahim to discuss the common investor mistakes they see made by beginners day in day out.
From transitioning PPOR properties into investments, purchasing an investment at full borrowing capacity to listening to the wrong or inexperienced people in your life, this episode will educate and pin-point the exact places they see investors make mistakes and what you can do to avoid them.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au.
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you're taking tremendous value from these episodes why not share them with your mate? If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters:
(00:00) Welcome
(07:09) Paul’s top mistakes
(13:32) Builders profit margins
(18:54) You can never out save a good market
(21:21) Luke’s top mistakes + BBQ chats
(25:00) Cash flow or bread and butter
(29:36) You definitely need a strategy
(34:08) Sam’s top mistakes
(40:09) A more expensive property isn’t a better investment
(42:56) Jimmy’s top mistakes
(44:54) Don’t be impatient, this is a long term game
(47:25) Don’t let anyone talk you out of what you could achieve
In the final episode of the year, Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim unpack why goals alone don’t cut it - strategy, action, and relentless 1%ers do. From the wins, losses and lessons of 2025 to the habits that actually move the needle, this episode shows you how to think bigger, act harder, and gear up for a massive 2026. If you’re ready to stop planning and start executing, this one’s unmissable.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:01:45) Welcome
(00:05:22) Strategy vs. goal setting
(00:08:25) The power of consistency & relentless action
(00:13:05) Practical accountability
(00:17:52) Learning from experience + fast-tracking growth
(00:24:39) Portfolio management: the power of micro actions
(00:26:56) Compounding effects of lost time
(00:29:47) Mentoring, commitment & turbocharging success
(00:35:22) Consistency, execution & life lessons
In this special episode, Sammy Gordon gets the APS all stars together for their annual roundtable to celebrate the end of the year and reflect on the most popular and meaningful episodes as chosen by our listeners. The crew, including Luke Teeuwesen, Morgan Holmes, Brendan Geoghegan, Paul Dem and Jimmy Ibrahim, share their personal favourite episodes and standout stories, from inspiring client journeys like Bailey’s and Yao Chen’s transformations to touching moments such as the tribute to Tara. With plenty of laughs, heartfelt reflections and insights into the impact of APS’s mission, this episode delivers a fitting wrap-up to the year highlighting both business growth and the deeper reasons behind property investing. Whether you’re a long-time listener or new, you’ll get a genuine look inside the APS and SAP community and what drives our passion to help others reach their goals.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:01:45) Welcome
(00:04:10) Favourite episodes of 2025: The team's picks
(00:08:08) Impact of client investor episodes
(00:12:41) The power of the circle of influence
(00:16:09) Creating community with SAP
(00:18:19) 10 Key Pillars to Build a 100+ Property Portfolio
(00:19:52) Overcoming doubt
(00:22:50) Jimmy's birthday surprise
(00:25:55) The APS mission
(00:32:00) Most moving episode: The Tara tribute
(00:38:52) Impactful moments and life lessons
(00:43:12) Bailey’s investor journey
(00:49:22) Personal growth, learning from setbacks and motivation
(01:03:27) Annual listener poll winners
(01:10:59) Reflections + final thoughts
Join host Sammy Gordon and Jimmy Ibrahim as they sit down with the APS experts Luke Teeuwsen, Morgan Holmes, Paul Dem and Brendan Geoghegan to break down the state of the Australian property market in 2025. They cover where investor's money is going, what the data is really showing, the biggest opportunities emerging right now and how strategy must evolve in a rapidly shifting landscape. This is your clear, no-fluff snapshot of where the Australian Property market stands today and where it’s heading next.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters
(00:01:45) Welcome
(00:07:20) Yearly recap + market shifts
(00:15:49) Regional market performance and strategic exits
(00:28:13) APS methodology and quality control
(00:36:13) "Would you buy this for family?”
(00:46:32) Education, mentoring and accelerating client success
(01:03:08) Avoiding common investment mistakes and the importance of first deals
(01:13:02) 2025 economy and interest rates
(01:22:16) Future risks and commercial pivot
(01:48:34) Market growth recap – 2025 data overview
In this week's episode, join Sam Gordon in this episode of the Smart Property Investment show, with Liam Garmin as they dive deep into the critical mistakes that property investors are making in 2025 and how to avoid them. From the importance of sophisticated lending and strategic portfolio building, to the reality of rentvesting and why having the right professional team matters, Sam shares hard-earned lessons, real-life examples, and practical tips for building lasting wealth through property.
Sam and Liam discuss the impacts of recent government policy changes, how to navigate market trends and avoid following the herd, plus the essential role of ongoing education and setting actionable goals. Packed with straight forward advice and plenty of actionable insights, this episode is a must-listen for anyone serious about taking their property journey to the next level.
School of Property is the ultimate education destination to master property investment, with a curriculum meticulously designed and crafted with both beginners and experts in mind. Whether you are a complete novice, or you’re ready to take things to the next level in your portfolio, this is the program for you! To find out more, head to www.schoolofproperty.com.au
If you loved this episode please send it on to someone who would take some value, and please give us a 5 star review if you haven't yet and are loving the poddy!
If you want your question answered on our podcast DM us on our socials or email us at apsteam@australianpropertyscout.com.au
Send us your questions to:
Instagram: @australianpropertyscout
Want to book a call with us:
Website: https://australianpropertyscout.com.au
Any information, comments, opinions or content that we provide in this podcast is our general observations and information only and it is not to be taken as, or in any way, considered to be financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice or legal advice. We strongly recommend all and any listener and participant to obtain their own independent financial advice, accounting advice, superannuation advice and legal advice before acting in any way in relation to any investment at all including any investment in property such as what we might be discussing in this podcast. No warranty, guarantee or representation is to be taken and you cannot reproduce it in any way. Every persons financial or investment situation is different and you must consider your own circumstances before undertaking any investment and be sure to obtain independent advice.
Australian Property Scout Pty Ltd | License Number: 10094798 | ABN: 64 638 266 369
Chapters:
(00:02:55) Hidden gaps for experienced investors
(00:07:38) Lending pitfalls
(00:08:58) From rentvesting to the dream home
(00:13:01) The power of rentvesting and delayed gratification
(00:15:49) Buying a primary residence prematurely
(00:19:55) Mistake #1: No clear exit strategy
(00:23:18) Mistake #2: Mindset & short-term thinking
(00:27:07) Mistake #3: Diy investing
(00:36:50) Mistake #4: Macro/micro market selection errors
(00:44:20) Australian stimulus: First home buyers, grants, & market impact
(00:49:20) Mistake #5: Common finance mistakes
(00:58:34) Mistake #6: Shooting from the hip (lack of education)
(01:03:34) Bonus: Building the right team








