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Leadership: The Secret Sauce
Leadership: The Secret Sauce
Author: Dave Lipsky and Matt Dodson
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Welcome to Leadership: The Secret Sauce with Coaches Dave Lipsky and Matt Dodson, where leadership meets coaching in an insightful blend of expertise and inspiration. Join us as we dive into the minds of successful leaders, uncovering their unique strategies, and asking the question: “What is your secret sauce?” Tune in for powerful conversations that unravel the essence of effective leadership and coaching, revealing the ingredients that make each guest’s journey truly exceptional. Get ready to elevate your leadership game and discover the keys to unlocking success.
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In this episode, we sit down with seasoned coach Helen Dann. Helen shares her personal journey of self-awareness and development as a coach, shedding light on her initial drive to help others and how she uncovered that her motives were rooted in a "rescuer syndrome" stemming from her childhood. This realization came during a virtual training session in 2020, leading her to dig deeper into her own psyche and evolve her coaching methods. The discussion explores how Helen transitioned from a coach who felt a need to fix everything for her clients to someone who holds space for them to explore their issues and own their solutions.
Helen also emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and continued self-development in enhancing her coaching skills. She talks about how necessary it is to hold a non-judgmental, safe space for clients to be themselves, to refrain from jumping in with all of the answers, and to challenge them when needed. She rounds off the episode by sharing resources that have been instrumental in her journey, including books and research papers that have influenced her approach to coaching.
Resources mentioned:
Coach the Person, Not the Problem by Marcia Reynolds https://a.co/d/5iwbRaz
Leadership Coaching and the Rescuer Syndrome by Manfred KETS De VRIES https://flora.insead.edu/fichiersti_wp/inseadwp2010/2010-104.pdf
The Human Behind the Coach by Claire Pedrick https://a.co/d/3rqqjrB
To connect with Helen, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-dann-icf-acc-pg-cert-a2984622/
In this episode, Ed Piccolino, an accomplished industrial organizational psychologist and coach, joins us. Ed shares his journey from studying leadership at a military academy to becoming deeply invested in understanding how early peer feedback strongly predicts future leadership success. His insights emphasize the crucial role of self-awareness in narrowing the gap between leaders’ self-concept and their public reputation.
We also discuss the intricate challenges of coaching and the necessity of providing honest and sometimes difficult feedback. We also highlight the importance of cultural context and the potential dark sides of a leader's strengths. Ed demonstrates how personalized feedback can significantly impact leadership effectiveness through real-life examples, such as coaching a micromanaging senior executive and working with a scientist at a pharmaceutical company. The episode also touches on the importance of character in leadership, using figures like General Stanley McChrystal and Steve Jobs to discuss traits like humility, influence, and the development of high-performing teams.
Resources Ed Highlights:
Good to Great by Jim Collins https://a.co/d/8CV166M
The Culture Code Daniel Coyle https://a.co/d/btGH6S8
Coaching the Dark Side of Personality by Rodney Warrenfeltz
Personality and the Fate of Organizations by Robert Hogan https://a.co/d/eRBXLPu
In this episode, we welcome coach Corinne Williams, who refers to herself as a business psychologist based in Singapore. We discuss the challenges and opportunities in the coaching world, emphasizing the significance of staying abreast of technological and AI trends. Corinne talks about the value of visual aids and reframing techniques in coaching to aid in understanding complex industry trends and client needs effectively.
We also talk about the integration of personal and professional facets in coaching. Corinne shares examples of how building trust, embracing experimentation, and using feedback can enhance leadership capabilities. The importance of addressing cross-cultural dynamics in coaching and inspiring leaders to overcome traditional attitudes toward vulnerability is also discussed.
Resources Mentioned:
Stop It! with Bob Newhart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcSAQyzPcl0
Tech and AI trends: https://www.cbinsights.com/research/
The Visual Capitalist: https://www.visualcapitalist.com
Organisation Solutions regular newsletter: Grow! https://organisationsolutions.com/contact-us
In this episode, we sit down with Ayo Lawrence, a passionate learner, coach, and podcaster. Ayo emphasizes the importance of curiosity and continuous learning as key components of his secret sauce for leadership. He shares insights from his vast experiences, including his work in the oil and gas sector, his podcast "Reading with Ayo," and his journey as a lifelong learner. The conversation discusses Ayo’s approach to coaching, which involves deeply understanding and tailoring client experiences and his belief in the transformative power of reading and asking questions.
Ayo's enthusiasm for learning and coaching shines through as he discusses incorporating curiosity into his coaching practice. He highlights the need for coaches to be present, listen actively, and ask meaningful questions to support and challenge their clients. The trio also delves into the significance of coaches being constant learners themselves and the value of forming a supportive community of coaches. The episode is filled with actionable advice and profound reflections on how curiosity and continuous learning can elevate leadership and coaching practices.
Resources Listed:
International Coaching Federation Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ICFHeadquarters
BetterUp Resources: https://www.betterup.com/blog
In this episode, we welcome coaching expert Joe Quagliata to explore the nuanced field of Co-Active Coaching. Joe elaborates on the co-active approach, emphasizing the collaborative relationship between coach and client, which hinges on listening, intuition, curiosity, and empowered learning. He also discusses the importance of clients steering the agenda while coaches remain fully present and responsive.
Joe also touches on significant transitions, including his shift from corporate leadership at American Express to executive coaching. With over three decades of experience, his approach centers on creating a safe space for clients to reflect deeply, uncovering underlying issues often masked by the frantic pace of corporate life.
The conversation also highlights Joe's recommended readings that have shaped his philosophy:
- Karen Kimsey-House's - Co-Active Coaching,
- Arthur Brooks' - From Strength to Strength
- Stephen Covey's - The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
To find out more and connect with Joe, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-p-quagliata/
In this episode, we sit down with Paul Wyman, a coach and author who gets into the practice of embracing and integrating different parts of oneself. Paul opens up about the internal struggle he faced while writing his book "Part of Me," emphasizing the battle with perfectionism and self-imposed pressures. Throughout the discussion, Paul introduces frameworks such as voice dialogue and polarity management to encourage accepting and managing various internal contradictions. He stresses the importance of seeing internal parts not as saboteurs but as allies, and how this understanding forms the core of his coaching philosophy.
Paul shares his unique coaching style, which doesn't strictly adhere to traditional ICF standards. Instead, he offers ideas and frameworks without insisting on agreement, fostering a more open and exploratory approach. He discusses the concept of the "inner leader" and how recognizing different parts of oneself can lead to profound self-awareness and growth. Paul’s metaphor of an inner team helps clients visualize and manage their internal dialogues, promoting a balanced and curious mindset.
To find out more and connect with Paul, visit: https://www.paulwymancoaching.com/
In this episode, we explore the intersection of coaching and innovation with Justin Milano, an executive coach and CEO who teaches innovation at the University of Chicago. The episode begins with Justin sharing how famous inventors like Leonardo da Vinci boosted creativity by starting their day with unanswerable questions. This sets the stage for a deep dive into Justin's philosophy that human suffering often stems from resisting reality. We discuss how inner peace arises from accepting all experiences, even challenges, without needing external conditions to change.
We also discuss the importance of continuous personal growth, especially for solopreneurs, who can benefit immensely from a personal board of coaches. He talks about the fleeting nature of feeling like one has "arrived" and the inevitability of new challenges. Throughout the conversation, we uncover Justin's unique approach that blends modern science and ancient wisdom, his transformational coaching practices, and the significance of taking calculated risks illustrated through his serendipitous experiences in Bhutan.
To find more about Justin, you can find him at: https://www.abroad.io/
Resources Mentioned:
Abroad - Global Leadership Development https://www.abroad.io
The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer https://a.co/d/9Ms7v1S
Living Untethered by Michael A. Singer https://a.co/d/hsvMFYI
Join us as we take time with CoachSource CEO and Executive Coach, Brian Underhill. Brian shares his sauce of being "Who You are Made to Be." He emphasizes the importance of discovering and living out one's true self, particularly in the context of career and professional life. Brian shares his personal journey of finding his passion for organizational psychology and coaching, and how it has aligned with his natural inclinations and strengths.
Brian also talks about the significance of helping others find their true calling and the impact it can have on their professional satisfaction and success. He believes that when people are in careers that match their natural abilities and interests, they are more likely to excel and find fulfillment.
Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
Strong Assessment: https://www.themyersbriggs.com/en-US/Products-and-Services/Strong
Coach Me! By Underhill, Passmore and Goldsmith https://a.co/d/0nf5yXv
Mastering Executive Coaching by Passmore, Underhill, Goldsmith https://a.co/d/ikLbRGp
CEO Excellence by Carolyn Dewar https://a.co/d/0KkkSsf
HBR Ideacast https://open.spotify.com/show/4gtSBBxIAE142ApX6LqsvN?si=3f76eb60decc45cc
Join us as we spend time with Executive Coach and artist, Leslie Goldenberg. Leslie's "Secret Sauce" involves deep listening to the language and speech patterns of her clients, a skill she developed through various influences including Annie Rogers' book "The Unsayable.” While sometimes avoided, Leslie emphasizes the value of long-term coaching relationships, which allow for deeper understanding and more effective support over time. You get the sense that Leslie is a master at her craft and practices what she coaches. Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
The Unsayable by Annie Rogers https://a.co/d/28Pje11
Mindful Leadership Coaching by Manfred Kets de Vries https://a.co/d/2Nh9FT2
Immunity to Change by Robert Kegan and Lisa Lahey https://a.co/d/8F4DOTF
Join us as we spend time with Retired Brigadier General Rich Gross. Rich is current teaching faculty and coach at the Thayer Leader Development Group at West Point. Rich shares his secret sauce for coaching and leadership, his transition from military service to coaching, highlighting the differences between mentoring and coaching. Rich identifies his secret sauce in coaching as being a good listener and asking insightful questions, while his secret sauce in leadership is his sense of humor. Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
Andy Ramage's AreteWay Coaching https://aretewaycoach.com/
An Introduction to Coaching Skills by Christian van Nieuwerburg https://a.co/d/2yeyvNF
Sahil Bloom’s Curiosity Chronicle https://www.sahilbloom.com/newsletter
Thayer Leader Development Group https://www.thayerleadership.com
Join us for an inspiring episode as Dave and Matt talk with Dr. Jacinta Jimenez, known as Dr. J, a former professional dancer, author, and seasoned coach who previously worked at BetterUp. Dr. J shares her secret sauce for success, which involves fostering connection through unconditional positive regard, curiosity and courage. She recounts how she first became attracted to coaching after experiencing its benefits herself and emphasizes the importance of truly seeing all parts of a person. Dr. J discusses balancing coaching techniques with genuinely understanding the individual. Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer https://a.co/d/fiEfffi
How to Know a Person by David Brooks https://a.co/d/22n4TQU
Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl https://a.co/d/eIJXhFo
Join us for an episode with "Fractional Insights" co-creators Shonna and Erin as they help WorkTech companies grow. Shonna and Erin, both ventured out on their own after collaborating while at BetterUp. Going out on their own redefined their parameters of success. Erin's secret sauce lies in her relentless pursuit of progress, driving her passion for academia and science. Meanwhile, Shonna’s secret sauce is her ability to view the world through both a scientific and business lens simultaneously. If you’re interested in understanding market dynamics, the impact of technological advancements, and the intersection of science and business, this episode is a must-listen. Don’t forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and continue your learning journey with us.
Find out more about Fractional Insights at: https://www.fractionalinsights.ai
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Join us for an engaging episode as Dave and Matt talk with Kristen Stockton, a creative who loves singing and has a knack for connecting the dots. Kristen shares her secret sauce for success, which includes her problem-solving abilities and how she creates ideas from what she hears from others. She opened up to her unique style through a strength assessment and emphasizes the importance of building a culture of diversity and inclusion in a broader sense. Kristen delves into the concept of professional confidence, discussing how we sometimes need a push to reach our goals while maintaining a realistic perspective. Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
Own the Room by Amy Jen Su https://a.co/d/6SY9nUD
Writing Better Lyrics by Pat Pattison https://a.co/d/cC76tW0
Coaching Sisterhood: https://zschool.richmond.edu/kristen-stockton.html
Join us for a unique reflection episode where our Editor asks the questions, and Dave and Matt talk about key themes and topics that have been notable throughout their podcast journey. They discuss the importance of creating and contributing to your coaching tribe, pushing yourself to your learning edge, surrounding yourself with the right people, and fostering authenticity and a safe environment for exploration.
Dave highlights the impact of coaching with Matt and underscores the need for other people’s stories to teach coaching.
They discuss expanding the definition of coaching and the value of asking 10% more and telling 10% less.
Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and continue your learning journey with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
This is a great episode as Dave and Matt talk with, David Tinker, who shares his secret sauce for success. With a military background as a former helicopter pilot, David brings a wealth of experience and unique insights. A proud father and a great dancer, David emphasizes the role of a curator in coaching—holding the space so clients can discover what heals them, enhances their influence, or makes them better leaders. He enables the people he coaches to gain new perspectives and unlocks their potential. If you're interested in the magic of coaching, what truly matters, and the balance between being and doing, this episode promises to be rich. Subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
Rethinkly Immersive Learning: https://www.thisisrethinkly.com
Impostor Syndrome Workshop: https://www.thisisrethinkly.com/post/imposter-syndrome-workshop
Metaphors of Mind by Penny Tompkins https://a.co/d/7ApDbbs
Join us for an encouraging episode as Dave and Matt sit down with Elliott Davis, who will share his secret sauce for success. Elliott discusses his journey and the influences that have shaped his coaching philosophy, emphasizing the importance of showing up with vulnerability. He talks about the power of truly listening and giving others the floor, drawing from his rich background in sports coaching. Elliott also delves into the drive and desire to improve and grow alongside the people around you. Don’t forget to subscribe to catch future episodes and continue your learning journey with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Elliott’s Resources:
A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle https://a.co/d/0BJH9FT
The Anatomy of the Spirit by Caroline Mays https://a.co/d/0cOk0fN
The Power of Vulnerability by Brene Brown https://a.co/d/0VvA3Bn
Join us for a great episode as Dave and Matt talk with guest coach, Kurt DeBique, who shares his secret sauces for success. Originally from Cape Town and an avid mountain biker, Kurt brings a unique and exploratory approach to life. He discusses his appreciation for learning development, education, and potential, emphasizing the importance of a possibility mindset and adaptability. Kurt also delves into his method of delayering—zooming in and out to gain different perspectives. If you're interested in the magic of coaching, what truly matters, and the balance between being and doing, this episode promises to be rich. Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren https://a.co/d/6YrOs14
Nancy Klines 10 Components of a Thinking Environment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjb-faR5S6c
The Little Book of Hygge by Meik Wiking https://a.co/d/1EoWlLa
Join us for a great episode as Dave and Matt talk with guest coach, Barry Shapiro, who shares his secret sauces for success. With his background, Barry emphasizes the alignment of values, thoughts, and actions—achieving true congruence. He explores how coaching overlaps with the physical side, and explains how confidence comes from the gut, taking performance-oriented risks. Barry also discusses the importance of being tested to find your own voice. If you're interested in the magic of coaching, what truly matters, and the balance between being and doing, this episode promises to be rich. Don't forget to subscribe to hear forthcoming episodes and learn along with us. Follow us on Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce.
Resources:
Leader is Coach by Pamela Potts https://a.co/d/4eIGCR7
Susan Cain’s Quiet https://a.co/d/gx6zGtD
Night by Elie Wiesel https://a.co/d/gx6zGtD
Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl https://a.co/d/0HUKP54
Join us for an engaging episode as we welcome Robert Garcia to the conversation. With a passion for exploration, having visited 92 countries, Robert's zest for life is contagious. Married for 40 years, he brings a wealth of experience to his role at the International Coaching Federation, where he champions the growth of coaching within organizations.
Robert's secret sauce? Curiosity and humor, allowing him to navigate tensions, embrace his personality, and ask insightful questions.
International Coaching Federation site: https://coachingfederation.org/coaching-in-organizations
Resources:
- Building the Core Competencies of Change by Sandra Stewart https://a.co/d/91AeRWR
- Hidden Potential by Adam Grant https://a.co/d/79FGe55
- Irresistible by Josh Bersin https://a.co/d/aEBA3cH
Instagram: @leadership.the.secretsauce
Join us for an enlightening episode as we welcome Jen Mallory to the conversation. Jen, a seasoned coach specializes in empowering professional women to overcome obstacles such as stress, burnout, and time management. With her unique approach centered on bio-hacking - the harmonization of psychology, biology, and environment - Jen promises to share her secret sauce for success. Stay tuned as we delve into Jen's wealth of experience and uncover the transformative insights she has to offer. Jen’s site is https://theingeniouscoach.com.
Her resource recommendations:
Presence by Amy Cuddy. https://a.co/d/4MdNKvl
Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman. https://a.co/d/9xBYDmT
Clear Thinking by Shane Parrish. https://a.co/d/4MdNKvl
30 Simple Habits to Optimize Your Life. https://ingeniouscoachingandconsulting.com/secretsauce
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