Split Zone Duo: College Football Podcast

Matt Brown joins Richard and Alex for the latest SZD/Extra Points Sports Business Hour. In this episode, the group talks about how the job of an athletic director has changed in the past handful of years: * The worst athletic director Matt has ever seen * What used to be the key markers of a good AD? * How have those traits changed in the 2020s? * News story reactions: Oliver Luck gets yet another college sports job, and Mississippi is poised to give tax breaks to athletes on NIL dealsThanks to Matt! You can read him all the time at Extra Points. Get more SZD by becoming a paid subscriberWe don’t stop in the offseason! Subscribers get bonus shows roughly each week (sometimes more frequently) on college football history, the coaching carousel, or any other topic or news story that we think you’ll be interested in hearing about. Thanks to the 4,000 of you who make this show possible! Thanks to our sponsorsnokiantyres.com/hockeyhomefieldapparel.comProducer: Anthony Vito This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comIn this subscriber episode, Godfrey, Richard, and Alex revisit 28 head coach transitions before the 2012 college football season. This was one of the most consequential coach carousels of the 21st century, with lots of very good, lots of very bad, plenty in the middle, and also the John L. Smith situation:THE GOOD* 9:29: Urban Meyer to Ohio State* 16:05: Mike Leach to Washington State* 22:39: Bill O’Brien to Penn State* 31:34: Justin Fuente to Memphis* 34:28: Matt Campbell to Toledo* 35:31: Jim McElwain to Colorado State* 36:55: Gus Malzahn to Arkansas State* 39:28: Terry Bowden to AkronTHE WHATEVER* 41:36: Jim Mora Jr. to UCLA* 46:54: Todd Graham to Arizona State* 50:28: Paul Chryst to Pitt* 51:10: Larry Fedora to North Carolina* 53:42: Kyle Flood to Rutgers* 55:45: Bob Davie to New Mexico* 56:46: Tim DeRuyter to Fresno StateTHE UGLY* 58:05: Tim Beckman to Illinois* 59:00: Tony Levine to Houston* 1:00:59: Curtis Johnson to Tulane* 1:01:59: Norm Chow to Hawaii* 1:05:54: Charley Molnar to UMass* 1:06:21: Garrick McGee to UAB* 1:13:08: Carl Pelini to FAU* 1:17:05: Ellis Johnson to Southern Miss* 1:19:25: Charlie Weis to Kansas* 1:28:00: John L. Smith to ArkansasTHE DEBATABLE* 1:20:48: Kevin Sumlin to Texas A&M* 1:21:36: Hugh Freeze to Ole Miss* 1:25:02: Rich Rodriguez to ArizonaProduced by Anthony Vito.Paid subscribers can here this episode and also our other “Anatomy of a Coaching Carousel” shows: * 2001* 2010Everyone else can hear free previews of these episodes. Thanks so much to our paid subscribers for making this show possible.

Your mission is simple, should you choose to accept it: By awarding or subtracting 24 points from a handful of old college football games, how much can you alter about the entire trajectory of the sport? Richard and Alex see how much damage they can do with three possessions’ worth of points: * 0:23: RIP to college football’s Wes Rucker, Joey Knight, and Rondale Moore* 3:37: Richard’s additional reporting on Sacramento State’s MAC move and the ridiculous math used to justify it * 13:22: The Split Zone Duo Hockey Hour responds to the Olympics * 19:46: News of the week: Joey Aguilar loses his eligibility case, and Jeff Monken suggests moving Army-Navy to Thanksgiving weekend * 24:32: Reshaping college football history with 24 pointsGet more SZD by becoming a paid subscriberThe offseason is a busy time at SZD, where we focus a lot on creative projects and CFB history while also keeping tabs on the news of the moment. Many of our favorite episodes go out in these months for subscribers — including the next one on Friday, featuring host emeritus Steven Godfrey. Thanks to our sponsorsnokiantyres.com/hockeyhomefieldapparel.comProducer: Anthony Vito This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comThis is a subscriber episode of Split Zone Duo, but everyone can listen to a free preview. Become a subscriber today by clicking on this link. In the second leg of our big offseason-opening mailbag, Richard and Alex take a big list of subscriber questions. (But first, yet another MAC head coach leaves his job and restarts the coach carousel in the process.) Among the questions answered in this episode: 7:54: Which new Sun Belt head coach is the best bet to succeed this year?* 11:05: How excited should we be about Buster Faulkner as Florida’s new offensive coordinator?* 16:41: Who’s having the hardest time coping with Curt Cignetti’s success at Indiana? (Alex says it’s Purdue fans; Richard disagrees.) * 21:50: How durable is the House settlement-generated age of parity? * 23:17: What will it take for college football players to finally be declared university employees?* 28:17: Will college football adopt transfer fees like European soccer?* 30:09: Are schools stuck in mutually assured destruction when it comes to recruiting rule enforcement?* 32:04: What happened with the major running back transfers that fizzled out this year?* 33:14: Can mid-tier power conference programs like Pitt still have breakthrough seasons in this era?* 36:05: Why can’t Nebraska take the next step in NIL and rev share spending?* 39:08: How can resource-deprived programs like West Virginia compete at the highest level right now?* 43:22: Will the single transfer portal window eventually move from winter to post-spring ball?* 46:50: Will more five-star recruits pick smaller schools over Blue Bloods, and are we entering the era of the strategic redshirt?* 50:31: Does the expanded playoff put even more emphasis on having veteran starters on your roster?* 52:15: Is the Pac-12 media deal ever actually going to happen, and what’s going on with the Mountain West lawsuit?* 53:19: Does the new Pac-12 have the horses to keep up with the American, and will the playoff committee treat it as a premier G6 league?* 54:00: Can the Pac-12 and Mountain West coexist, or is one conference going to have to absorb the other?* 59:19: What happens to conference championships if they get rid of conference championship games?* 1:04:07: Is the Big Ten pushing for a 24-team playoff because Fox wants to renegotiate media rights?* 1:07:57: Would you rather have the Lou Groza Award winner or the Ray Guy Award winner on your team?* 1:09:11: What will it take for spring football to succeed, and do people even want it?Then, in the FUN ROUND: * 1:10:46: Why are the swear words bleeped in the SZD podcast intro?* 1:12:24: Who’s been the main character of SZD throughout its existence?* 1:14:15: For Richard: What’s more likely, Dabo embracing the transfer portal or Spurs winning the Champions League?* 1:15:51: Alex, have you ever done a trail run, and do you have any advice for someone training for a trail half and a 50K?* 1:17:45: Alex, what’s on your race calendar these days? \Produced by Anthony Vito.

Richard and Alex talk about a handful of college football news stories, headlined by Sacramento State’s geographically and financially absurd move to the MAC:* 5:24: Sacramento State to the MAC and our many, many questions* 31:55: The inaugural Split Zone Duo Olympic Hockey Hour* 34:12: Eligibility lawsuits and who’s still a college athlete (Trinidad Chambliss, Joey Aguilar, and Charles Bediako)* 48:52: The Pac-12’s flex scheduling idea* 51:38: The merciful end of the Michigan sign-stealing saga (it was still going!)* 52:33: YouTube TV’s coming sports-only package* 57:55: RIP Robert Duvall, Clemson Tigers fanThis episode is free for all. Get more shows by becoming a subscriber today at www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribeBy no means do we stop talking about college football in the offseason. We take the opportunity to get creative and bring subscribers all sorts of deep dives on CFB history, the coaching carousel, Xs and Os, and plenty more. Help us make the show and get lots more of it by becoming a paid subscriber.Thanks to our sponsorsnokiantyres.com/hockeyhomefieldapparel.comProducer: Anthony Vito This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comSubscriber episode: Richard and Alex answer questions from our subscribers as college football gets into the meet of its offseason. We got a lot of very good questions, so we are breaking this mailbag into two separate recordings and will answer more of your questions next week. In this episode: * 0:15: Important news: Richard…

The greatest program in FCS is moving to the Mountain West, effective this upcoming season. North Dakota State won 10 of the past 15 FCS national titles and decided to try something new. It’s a huge move, giving FBS a new contender for the Group of 6 spot in the Playoff and reshaping the competitive pecking order in FCS. But we’ve still got many questions to talk through:* Why now? NDSU had batted around this idea for years* Does the money make sense? (NDSU probably wouldn’t be doing it if it didn’t, but the additional expenses will be millions per year)* Why the Mountain West and not the new Pac-12?* How good will the Bison be right away?* Is it ever right to be bored of success?* Is it time to update our priors on how hard it is for teams to successfully leap from FCS to FBS?* TRIVIA: Which seven states still don’t have an FBS team?Also, we talk about the college elements of the Super Bowl and Bobby Hauck’s very brief retirement from coaching. Producer: Anthony VitoThanks to our partners, Homefield and Nokian Tyres.Get a lot more of this show by becoming a paid subscriber. By no means do we stop talking about college football in the offseason. We take the opportunity to get creative and bring subscribers all sorts of deep dives on CFB history, the coaching carousel, Xs and Os, and plenty more. Help us make the show and get lots more of it by becoming a paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

The Big Ten’s commissioner, Tony Petitti, spent much of this season trying to do two things: 1) Expand the Playoff to his liking, and 2) Get his member schools to sign a big private capital deal. Neither happened, and the conference now appears to have wasted a lot of time off the field even as it was winning a third-straight national championship on it. Matt Brown of the tremendous Extra Points newsletter and document library joins Alex and Richard to talk about these misadventures, in particular: * How Petitti has made himself the sport’s main bureaucratic villain, taking a role that SEC commissioner Greg Sankey may have seen as his birthright* Why a lot of the Big Ten wanted this private capital deal * Why it didn’t ultimately come together, despite those wishes* The one actual good reason for wanting the deal, explained by Matt * Why Rutgers’ finances are so bad You can read Matt several times every week by subscribing to his Extra Points newsletter. We are both happy subscribers, along with most conference commissioners, countless athletic directors, and anyone else who cares about being informed on the off-field movements shaping college football. SZD paying subscribers will hear a lot more from Matt later this week He’ll join us on a subscriber episode to discuss Playoff non-expansion, the state of the football calendar, the NCAA’s stalled (?) efforts to get an antitrust exemption from Congress, the eligibility crisis in multiple sports, the race to fund excess NIL money on top of the House settlement, and the topic that’s always on all of our minds: basketball video game licensing. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comBefore the season, Godfrey, Richard, and Alex made a bunch of predictions and buried them in a time capsule. Time to dig it up! What did everyone learn over the course of the season? How were our prior opinions challenged? Where we got things wildly wrong, was that bad luck (Penn State) or the sign of missing something much deeper (arguably Clemson)? Let’s review in detail: * How each FBS conference met or didn’t meet our expectations * Conference USA and the MAC will just never make sense * The shocking collapses of Penn State and Clemson and the still-pretty-surprising three-loss season that Texas had * Godfrey’s almost legendary spotting of a North Texas QB * What will we think about in a different way heading into 2026?Producer: Anthony Vito. This episode is for paid subscribers, but everyone can hear a free preview You can become a paid subscriber here. Interested in hearing more about how our podcast is doing? We’ve got a “state of the union for youThe short answer: Things are good. The longer answer: Read this letter from us to the audience.

It’s time to review the 2025 college football season, with our annual awards special, the Zonies. Rodger Sherman joins Alex and Richard to dole out some important CFB honors for this past season, including: * Power conference team of the year * Non-power team of the year * Moment of the year * Proof of concept of the year * Minority Coach of the Week of the Year * Bryan Harsin Award for Forestalling the Inevitable * The Podcaster’s Player Award It’s an awards show, but it’s mainly a walk down memory lane of the things we enjoyed most about the season. Thanks for listening. Producer: Anthony VitoAlso, we briefly discuss the Olympics at the end of the episode. You’ll be able to read all kinds of Rodger stories on the Olympics at his newsletter. SZD doesn’t stop in the offseasonThe opposite, if anything. We use these months for all sorts of creative projects that are designed to appeal to people who love college football and want to learn more about it while having a good time. History projects! Sports business! Roster moves! We’ll do all of it. (Alex would even say that his favorite subscriber shows are the ones we have time to do out of football season.) We’d love to have you:Support Split Zone Duo’s sponsors * nokiantyres.com/szd * homefieldapparel.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comWelcome to the rest of the college football calendar, the part when games aren’t actually being played. In this quick subscriber episode, Alex and Richard debrief on the state of their CFB fandom and talk about what’s both good and not good right now. Producer: Anthony Vito. This show is for paid subscribers Thanks so much to the thousands of people (!) who subscribe to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about. Thanks so much and here’s the subscribe link.Also, subscribe to our YouTube channel!That one’s free, though:

The best turnaround in the history of college football concludes with a 16-0 season and a national championship. Richard and Alex talk about Indiana’s 27-21 win over Miami, what led up to it, and where these programs go next. SZD doesn’t stop in the offseason The opposite, if anything. We use these months for all sorts of creative projects that are designed to appeal to people who love college football and want to learn more about it while having a good time. History projects! Sports business! Roster moves! We’ll do all of it. (Alex would even say that his favorite subscriber shows are the ones we have time to do out of football season.) We’d love to have you: Thanks to our sponsors, and congrats to the ones that are based in Indiana* 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD* Shop Indiana title gear at Homefield* Nokian Tyres: https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd* Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, ILProducer: Anthony Vito This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comTHIS IS A SUBSCRIBER EPISODE: Thanks so much to the thousands of people (!) who subscribe to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about. Thanks so much and here’s the subscribe link.The great Michael Felder joins Richard for a “Scheme School” episode, diving deeper into the Xs and Os of the Miami-Indiana national title game. * How Indiana avoids having any bad concepts, ever * Indiana’s tight end is the most important person in the world * The familiarity between Miami’s DC and Curt Cignetti * Are we sure Indiana can block those dudes up front? * Why everyone here feels pretty good about the Hoosiers, whose defensive identity involves stopping scrambles like the one Carson Beck used to beat Ole Miss in the semifinal And more! Producer: Anthony Vito

Richard and Alex look ahead to the College Football Playoff National Championship, with some thoughts on the schematics and then the unique circumstances surrounding Miami and Indiana. In this episode:* 1:32: Our thoughts on the city of Miami* 9:55: Brief Xs and Os preview of Indiana vs. Miami: Could Miami sack Fernando Mendoza a bunch and still lose? What about the big challenge in front of Indiana’s secondary, facing Malachi Toney?* 30:17: Narrative preview and the significance of the title game: The U is back! Except we’re not supposed to talk about that! Also, Indiana (rat poison alert) is on the verge of a best-team-ever argument.* 43:17: Why the playoff should not be expanded further and why the Big Ten Conference’s malignant behavior must be stoppedFurther reading: CBS Sports’ Brandon Marcello on the current negotiations about Playoff expansion, pitting the Big Ten against the SEC.More listening for paid subscribers!* Alex and Rodger Sherman’s deep dive into the lessons of Curt Cignetti’s rise, drawing on research from a 40-year coaching career, is out now* Coming Friday, a special episode of SCHEME SCHOOL, featuring Richard and guest Michael Felder going deeper on the scheme of this game. Subscribe.Producer: Anthony VitoFull details here on the festivities around the game.* 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD* Nokian Tyres: https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd* Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comEvery athletic director and search firm in college sports would love to find their own version of Indiana coach Curt Cignetti. Great idea, but easier in theory than in practice. Cignetti once said to Google him, so we did, taking a deep dive into all of the stops in a 40-year coaching career and trying to identify what about Cignetti is identifiable in real time, what isn’t, and what from his Indiana success other schools could reasonably hope to replicate. In this episode:* 13:22: Early signs of a resourceful coach while he’s leading the QBs for an 0-11 Rice program in the 1980s* 20:08: A move to NC State, where he worked with two future Hall of Fame QBs and seemed to internalize some lessons about managing stress* 26:20: Taking part in the Nick Saban Alabama dynasty* 32:00: Making a legit shocking move to Division II IUP, which turned out to provide ideal training for Cignetti’s future job at another Indiana* 45:00: A pivot to James Madison, where he didn't turn around a struggling program but continued a nice run, lost the FCS national championship to North Dakota State, then executed the smoothest FCS-to-FBS transition ever* 58:15: Indiana, where Cignetti was brilliant and also got very luckyCan you find your own Cignetti? If it’s possible, this episode should help you.Producer: Anthony Vito

The College Football Playoff National Championship is set. Alex and Richard react to a mixed pair of semifinal games, with Miami outlasting Ole Miss and Indiana feeding Oregon into a wood chipper. In the rare Hurry-Up recorded from a live studio (or at least living room), we discuss: * 18:37: Miami 31, Ole Miss 27* 01:03: Indiana 56 (!), Oregon 22 Producer: Anthony Vito Become a paid subscriberWe are grateful for the several thousand people who pay $10 a month or $110 for the year to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about.Thanks to our partners and subscribers* 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD* https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd* Shop Homefield at https://www.homefieldapparel.com/* Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.splitzoneduo.comSUBSCRIBER EPISODE: Once upon a time, Ole Miss picked segregation over being good at football. Indiana picked basketball over being good at football. Miami never really chose not to be good at football, but made a series of mistakes and ran up against difficult modern realities that caused a long drought. Meanwhile, the story of Phil Knight rescuing Oregon is now so old-fashioned it’s basically quaint. In this subscriber episode, Richard and Alex talk about how the four 2025 Playoff semifinalists got out of their own way. The second half of this audio file (starting at 39:43) is a resurfacing of our “Dead Letters” episode about the history of Ole Miss football, featuring Alex and Steven Godfrey. We’ve gotten a lot of new listeners since the episode came out in 2023 and wanted to make sure those folks had a chance to hear it. Find all Dead Letters shows here. Producer: Anthony Vito. This is a subscriber episode of SZD We are grateful for the several thousand people who pay $10 a month or $110 for the year to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about.We’ll do a lot of that exclusively for subscribers. Thanks to everyone who’s already joined us, and if you haven’t yet, we think you’ll enjoy it if you check it out. Good for the soul but also good for the podcast queue.

Richard and Alex talk about the absurd FCS Championship that ended with Montana State claiming the national title over Illinois State. Then it’s time to preview the College Football Playoff semifinals in a lot of detail. * 2:30 FCS Championship * 15:42 Ole Miss vs. Miami * 33:52 Oregon vs. Indiana * 52:15 NFL playoff takes Producer: Anthony Vito. Become a paid subscriber in 2026! We are grateful for the several thousand people who pay $10 a month or $110 for the year to support Split Zone Duo. One thing you get is the knowledge that you are making this independent college football podcast possible. Another thing you get is a lot of bonus episodes, including weekly dispatches all offseason long. The football season is our busiest time, but we like to think the offseason is our most creative time, and there’s still a lot of news to talk about. We’ll do a lot of that exclusive for subscribers. Thanks to everyone who’s already joined us, and if you haven’t yet, we think you’ll enjoy it if you check it out. Good for the soul but also good for the podcast queue. Thank you to Split Zone Duo’s sponsors * 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD* https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd* Shop Homefield at https://www.homefieldapparel.com/* Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

Richard (from the Sugar Bowl) and Alex (from the Rose Bowl) break down the College Football quarterfinal bowl games in this order: * Ole Miss 39, Georgia 34* Indiana 38, Alabama 3 * Oregon 23, Texas Tech 0 * Miami 24, Ohio State 14 Want much more? Become a paid subscriberSubscribers get weekly bonus episodes, usually more than one during the season and postseason, as well as the chance to ask questions and engage more deeply with the hosts. We’d love to have you. Thanks to our partners and subscribers* 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD* https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd* Shop Homefield at https://www.homefieldapparel.com/* Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, ILProducer: Anthony Vito This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe

The College Football Playoff quarterfinals are here. Alex, Richard, and guest host Rodger Sherman dive into all of these games: * Miami-Ohio State at the Cotton Bowl* Oregon-Texas Tech at the Orange Bowl* Alabama-Indiana at the Rose Bowl* Ole Miss-Georgia at the Sugar Bowl * Illinois State-Montana State in the FCS title game * UW-River Falls-North Central in the Stagg Bowl Plus: Does the NFL need to reconsider its playoff format to exclude teams from the NFC South and AFC North? Producer: Anthony VitoWant much more? Become a paid subscriberSubscribers get weekly bonus episodes, usually more than one during the season and postseason, as well as the chance to ask questions and engage more deeply with the hosts. We’d love to have you.Thanks to our partners and subscribers* 20% off Dad Water: https://drinkdadwater.com/discount/SZD* Nokian Tyres: https://www.nokiantyres.com/szd* Shop Homefield at https://www.homefieldapparel.com/* Modelo: Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.splitzoneduo.com/subscribe