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New futuristic cities built from scratch. Giga-projects. Major sports investments. Trillions in spending. An economy and society changing so quickly even locals sometimes can’t believe their eyes. Saudi Arabia is on a mission to change itself from a conservative society with an oil-dominated economy to a modern and open society with a diversified economy - and to become a global tourism destination. Such a transformation has never before been attempted, and the stakes for the Middle East - and the world - are high.

The TWENTY30 is a new media network and podcast that explores the seemingly endless dimensions of the social and economic transformations in Saudi Arabia, which few living outside the Kingdom can truly grasp. From the creator and co-host of The 966 Podcast comes a new platform that tackles the news, issues, challenges, and opportunities in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East region as it continues forward in a full-throttle effort to remake itself while the world watches. Featuring exclusive interviews, frank conversations, and in-depth topic exploration, The TWENTY30 is the first bi-weekly english program of its kind dedicated to uncovering and highlighting the road ahead for Saudi Arabia and the region and why it matters.

Hosted by Lucien Zeigler and Dr. Hanaa Almoaibed, The TWENTY30 is a new media network that will expand understanding of Saudi Arabia and the Middle East region through real conversations, research, and insights on a variety of platforms.
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In this special episode of The TWENTY30 Presented by Bechtel Saudi Arabia, hosts Lucien and Hanaa dedicate the full episode to analyze the significance and future impact of Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince to Washington as a new era in US-Saudi relations begins. This episode features three separate interviews from experts to break down the visit's meaning and to speak to a changing and enhanced relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia.  After a full recap of the visit and the various agreements and deals signed between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, the hosts first welcome onto the show Dr. Mansour Almarzoqi, Director of the Center for Strategic Studies and Director of the Center for American Studies at Riyadh's Prince Saud Al-Faisal Institute for Diplomatic Studies to talk about the visit within the context of the long history between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, and how Saudi Arabia, now emerging as a global "middle power" is of strategic and economic importance to the United States - which was recognized in the welcoming for HRH the Crown Prince.  Next, the hosts welcome on Saudi businessman Bader Alreziza, joining the show from the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia, to break down the reception and impact from the business community and speak to the existing and new opportunities that will emerge from the landmark meeting.  Then, the hosts speak to the Chairman of the American Chamber of Commerce in Riyadh (AMCHAM) and Partner at PWC, Darrell McGraw, on how Saudi Arabia is changing as a business and investment landscape, why the energy on the ground in Saudi Arabia is palpable and vibrant now, and how technology cooperation is the new big opportunity for the two countries to further grow their tight bilateral relationship.   After the three interviews, Lucien and Hanaa distill their conversations and provide their take on the new dynamic, business opportunities, and how enduring players in Saudi Arabia -- like U.S.-based Bechtel -- show a model for success in doing business in Saudi Arabia.  The TWENTY30 team is honored to collaborate with Bechtel, whose enduring projects built the Saudi Arabia of today, and whose work today building the Saudi Arabia of tomorrow makes the company an integral part of the Kingdom’s transformation and story of change, which is the subject of The TWENTY30 media channels. Bechtel’s partnership with the TWENTY30 on this episode reflects the company’s over 8 decades of building infrastructure, major projects, transportation systems, mining and minerals, energy and renewable energy, ports, and giga-projects in Saudi Arabia, proving itself time and again not only as the go-to partner for Saudi Arabia’s ambitious vision, but also a steady partner for Saudi Arabia dedicated to the Kingdom’s enduring national prosperity. To learn more about Bechtel’s work in Saudi Arabia, go to https://www.bechtel.com/regions/middle-east/. 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
Soft Power

Soft Power

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In Episode 64, hosts Hanaa and Lucien kick off by catching up on more travel and some interesting feedback they received. Then Hanaa leads a DEEPDIVE on how Saudi Arabia is building a national skills ecosystem to reshape its economy and elevate its global influence - and leaning on the power of cultural storytelling as it transforms itself. That's a facet of Vision 2030 that isn't headline-grabbing and is a patient build over time, but starting to pay off for the Kingdom. Skills are no longer just a workforce issue; they are a strategic asset - one Saudi Arabia is seeking to leverage to and through 2030. The hosts then get into some interesting news emerging from the Kingdom, including Saudi Arabia's ambitious infrastructure projects, a coffee-driven IPO boom, and leadership changes.  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
After a whirlwind month of travel, Lucien and Dr. Hanaa are back on The TWENTY30 Podcast—and strap in, because they have a LOT of catching up to do. A lot has happened in the fast-paced, fast-changing Kingdom over the past few weeks. The hosts try to tackle as much of it as they can in this episode to kick off the season and a regular schedule of content excellence for listeners and viewers.  In this show, Lucien leads a DEEPDIVE on the latest "Giga Project" coming to Saudi Arabia: The monumental King Salman Gate project—Mecca’s 12 million m² transformation. The new designs and visuals released by authorities are impressive, but so too are the plans for  heritage preservation. The move is a play to enhance religious tourism as part of Saudi’s economic diversification. The move also reflects the reality of Saudi Arabia as host to the largest annual human migration event on the planet for millions of followers of Islam, and to make that journey more inspirational, peaceful and safe for visitors to the Kingdom. After the DEEPDIVE, the hosts roll up their sleeves for an expanded NEWS segment, covering the launch of Riyadh University of the Arts (RUA), a first-of-its-kind institution nurturing the next generation of Saudi creatives, Saudi’s film industry, Riyadh Fashion Week, MDLBeast Soundstorm 2025 (Cardi B!), and what we know right now about Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s planned U.S. visit. We're so back! 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
Saudi Arabia is now a leading market for education investment. In this conversation, Basma Bushnaq, Partner at PWC, discusses the evolving landscape of schools, the demand for quality teachers, and the future of education in Saudi Arabia and globally. The significant reforms and investment opportunities driven by Vision 2030 has created an almost unrecognizable and booming market in the Kingdom. She shares her personal journey in education, the challenges and opportunities within the sector, and the importance of collaboration and local partnerships in implementing effective educational practices.  Before the conversation, Hanaa and Lucien, long overdue for a catchup, discuss Lucien's recent trip to the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia (Hanaa's home town!), Hanaa's recent retreat, "painting the town red" in Riyadh, and more. We're back! 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
Back from vacation (so back) and ready to hit the ground running with a normal schedule, the TWENTY30 co-hosts Lucien and Hanaa begin the show by catching up after the break. Then, Hanaa leads an interesting DEEPDIVE segment on Saudi Arabia's "Quiet Revolution," which is major progress with legal reforms for individuals and businesses in the kingdom as it continues to transform. New laws and a series of regulations has made doing business in Saudi Arabia so much easier than before, and legal reforms have empowered women and redefined social issues for the better for citizens and residents. These are changes that don't draw the headlines or curiosity as some giga-projects or sports (for example) but underpin all that's happening in Saudi Arabia.  After the DEEPDIVE, the hosts discuss HUMAIN and Saudi Arabia's new AI capabilities, solar in Saudi Arabia, and much more. 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.    ©The TWENTY30. All rights reserved.   
Saudi Arabia's transformative new real estate law opens doors for international ownership and is set to redefine the Kingdom's property landscape and charm global investors with new opportunities. Faisal Durrani, partner and head of research for Knight Frank Middle East sits down with co-hosts Lucien and Hanaa to discuss the landmark new law, which allows foreign buyers to buy property in Saudi Arabia.  The hosts ask Faisal to break down what's in this new law and speak to the impact the law might have on prices, foreign investment, and the potential for the new law to catapult Saudi Arabia toward becoming the world's next hot real estate opportunity.  
We're so back! And so is Ghada Almuhanna Abalkhail, the TWENTY30's cultural expert, who returns to the show to discuss her latest book series that explores the concept of the Saudi homeland through archival photographs. She shares insights and observations behind creating the books and the photographs that define them,  emphasizing the emotional connection to the photographs she selects. Ghada also reflects on the challenges of compiling artifacts and textiles for her work, and highlights influential figures in her life who inspire her passion for cultural heritage and history. The conversation touches on the significance of preserving cultural narratives through photography and the importance of collaboration in her projects.  After the conversation with Ghada, the hosts catch up on just some of the latest news from Saudi Arabia, including a rise in Saudi millionaires (and wealth equality) in the Kingdom, a new law for foreign ownership of housing, and much more.  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
Happy 4th of July! In Episode 57, the hosts catch up after a break and discuss some feedback, including one listener/viewer who asks the hosts to share something that listeners might not know about themselves. Then Lucien leads a Deep Dive into the return of Ronaldo to Saudi Arabia. He's back! While the price tag is massive, it is very likely worth every penny for Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is experiencing an extraordinary phase of growth, with undertakings that reinforce its global presence and soft power. The landmark decision for Cristiano Ronaldo to continue his career at Al Nasser - with a staggering price tag - is not merely about football; it's a strategic investment in soft power, one that so far has paid off in measurable and immeasurable ways for the Kingdom. Ronaldo, a global icon with unparalleled influence, enhances the Saudi Pro League's reputation and draws international attention to the kingdom's transformation. He’s also added a real-world dollar value boost to the Kingdom’s diversification goals - one that Lucien attempts to calculate in the Deep Dive.  Ronaldo’s original move to Saudi Arabia catalyzed an influx of other renowned players like Benzema, Neymar, and many more into the Saudi Pro League, significantly boosting its global profile. Broadcast reach has expanded dramatically, and sponsorship inflows have surged, underscoring football's capacity to act as a uniting force. Beyond economic impacts, Ronaldo serves as an aspirational figure for Saudi Arabia’s youth. The kingdom can leverage his global visibility to promote fitness, discipline, and healthy living—cornerstones of a vibrant society envisioned in Vision 2030. The hosts then get to the news including: •Selfridges, now a PIF company, launches insider member’s only club •Michelin Stars are coming to the Kingdom •99 future culinary leaders graduate from the ZADK Culinary Arts Academy •Expo 2030: A New Horizon in Riyadh, with PIF now on board 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
Faisal Bin Homran, Chief Product Officer at the Esports World Cup Foundation, is at the forefront of a growing esports movement in Saudi Arabia and globally. In the ever-evolving world of gaming, Saudi Arabia is emerging as a major player, actively positioning itself as a global hub for esports. This ambition is making waves worldwide, driven by a strategy backed by none other than His Royal Highness, the Crown Prince - an avid gamer himself.  Faisal joins hosts Hanaa Almoaibed and Lucien Zeigler on the TWENTY30 for an exclusive conversation about his work overseeing what is now the world's largest esports tournament held annually in Riyadh: the Esports World Cup, which runs from July to August in 2025. With a prize pool of $70m and millions globally expected to tune in or visit to watch live, the Kingdom is betting big on the new sector.  In the conversation with the TWENTY30, Faisal dives into the intricate ecosystem of organizations driving Saudi Arabia's esports goals. The Esports World Cup Foundation manages the global tournament and brand, while the Saudi Esports Federation handles local tournaments and talent development. Investment and infrastructure are supported by entities like the Public Investment Fund (PIF) and its subsidiaries focused on game development and esports operations. Together, they form a cohesive unit, aligning efforts to establish Saudi Arabia as a center for gaming and esports. integrating consumers and investors into this exciting ecosystem. By hosting diverse events, including the growing Esports World Cup, they aim to convert casual audiences into dedicated esports fans. These efforts are supported by a thriving network of local and international partners, ensuring that every event is a holistic celebration of gaming culture. The hosts also ask Faisal about the real-world logistics of hosting the Esports World Cup. Organizing an event of this magnitude is no small feat. Faisal emphasized the importance of meticulous planning and execution, beginning a year in advance. With numerous tournaments, stages, and arenas to manage, the challenge is substantial. After the interview with Faisal bin Homran, hosts Lucien and Hanaa catch up on some of the latest news, including some interesting stories from the recent Haj, Saudi big cats in DC, an expectation-breaking performance from the Saudi economy to start 2025, and much more.  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
President and Chairwoman of the Saudi Mixed Martial Arts Federation join co-hosts Hanaa and Lucien for an exclusive interview, shedding light on her journey from being the first Saudi woman certified as a boxing coach to holding prominent positions in international sports organizations and her new role as head of the Saudi MMA Federation. Rasha talks with The TWENTY30 about the significant investments and strategies driving the growth in the sport, with ambitious plans under Vision 2030. The 4-time Guinness Book of World Records-holder was also recently named one of ADWEEK’s Most Powerful Women in Sports 2025. Before the conversation, the hosts catch up on feedback on Episode 54, with viewers and listeners chiming in on US-Saudi relations. After the conversation with Rasha, the hosts catch up on some of the latest news, including "reports" that alcohol is coming to the Kingdom. 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
Charles Hallab, President and CEO of the US-Saudi Business Council, joins The TWENTY30 co-hosts Lucien Zeigler and Dr. Hanaa Almoaibed to react to the impact and importance of U.S. President Trump's recent visit to Saudi Arabia. Hallab, who recently became President and CEO of the longstanding organization after a lifelong career (and portion of his childhood!) in Saudi Arabia and in U.S.-Saudi business relations, characterizes the recent visit as more than a reset in relations, emphasizing the excitement and energy among young Saudis and the opportunities for US companies. The co-hosts speak with Charles about the durability of the new paradigm, how the real work is ready to be done in strengthening the relationship, and the ongoing challenges with updating perceptions about the Kingdom and the need for better storytelling to convey the progress being made under Vision 2030. Charles, a lawyer by trade, also discusses the impact of the legal reforms that have made doing business in Saudi Arabia more accessible.    Before the interview with Charles Hallab, the co-hosts catch up on recent travel to Saudi Arabia, where both hosts were over the past two weeks. Then the hosts get to the latest news on Saudi Arabia, including Franklin Templeton is ramping up its presence in Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia launches TOURISE to reshape global tourism, Saudi Arabia accelerates auto industry localization, and the iconic American rock band Guns and Roses performs in Saudi Arabia.   📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
In Episode #53, Lucien, on his last day in the U.S. before returning to Saudi Arabia on Friday and Dr. Hanaa, joining from Muscat, Oman, catch up with each other, with Dr. Hanaa giving her impressions from her inaugural trip to Oman and Lucien boasting about the weather in the U.S. right now. Then, the hosts get to a DEEPDIVE led by Lucien. The innovation landscape in Saudi Arabia just got a big boost on the back of news highlighting a significant increase in patent filings in Saudi Arabia, which has significant long-term economic implications and serves as a promising data point on the development and diversification of the Saudi economy.  After the DEEPDIVE, the hosts get to some of the latest news and storylines on Saudi Arabia, including the diplomatic implications of naming the 'Arabian Gulf', recent government reshuffles in Saudi Arabia, the ambitious Saudi Green Initiative aimed at environmental sustainability, and the launch of luxury hospitality projects by the Boutique Group. 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.   
Hanaa and Lucien catch up and read some feedback on recent episodes to kick off Episode 52, in a rare moment in which both are recording the episode from their homes in the UK and US, respectively. Then, Lucien leads a DEEPDIVE into the Vision 2030 report for 2024, released this week. Over the past year, several Vision 2030 targets have been reached ahead of schedule. Others have been exceeded entirely. Progress includes achievements in tourism, employment, and PIF's gains, but the report also addresses areas needing improvement like FDI. Lucien makes the point that, data and findings aside, the report itself is valuable - it's a genuine effort to prioritize accountability and transparency by Saudi authorities to ensure that progress continues forward.    The hosts conclude as always with a round up of the latest news on Saudi Arabia, including a rave review of the 1001 Festival by MDLBEAST, Saudi Arabia and Qatar agreed to Pay Off Syria’s debt to the World Bank, a fresh US-Saudi push to cooperate on developing a nuclear program in the kingdom, and (another) large US private equity plans to set up shop in Saudi Arabia this year. 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
In Episode 51, Dr. Hanaa, fresh off of her recent trip to Japan with her family, discusses her visit there and the hosts share observations of that amazing country. Lucien recaps his recent experience and outcomes from Riyadh's Human Capability Initiative 2025. After the hosts catch up, Dr. Hanaa leads a DEEPDIVE on the Eastern Province and a recent podcast interview in Arabic in which the topic of growth and investment into the "EP" (as Lucien calls it) is addressed. There are misconceptions about the Eastern Provinces' progress and development, especially in relation to other areas of the Kingdom.  The hosts conclude as always with NEWS from the Kingdom, including reacting to Riyadh Air's Boeing 787 cabin designs, F1, Saudi Arabia's growing tourism workforce, The 11th Saudi Film Festival, and much more.  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.    ©The TWENTY30. All rights reserved. 
In this episode, hosts Lucien and Hanaa take a moment at the start to celebrate the 50th episode milestone of the TWENTY30 Podcast. Now with 45,000+ subscribers, the hosts reflect a little on the journey so far while noting it is just the beginning. Dr. Hanaa leads a DEEPDIVE, with a discussion on the findings in the recently released the Global Youth Index 2024, which assesses youth development across 40 countries. They delve into Saudi Arabia's performance in youth development, highlighting improvements in education and entrepreneurship. The hosts would like to thank all of our subscribers, viewers, and listeners for your support over 50 episodes and helping us grow! 🙏  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.    ©The TWENTY30. All rights reserved. 
In Episode 49, co-hosts Dr. Hanaa Almoaibed and Lucien Zeigler catch up after a short break over the Eid holidays before jumping into a DEEPDIVE on Saudi Arabia's new architectural guidelines, released by HRH the Crown Prince (along with a map!). Saudi Arabia is identifying and solidifying its heritage through new urban development guidelines that incorporate the kingdom’s indigenous design traditions. The initiative will serve as a guideline for developers, Saudi real estate businesses, and urban planning projects, ensuring that new developments complement their surroundings while integrating traditional architectural elements into modern designs. The hosts discuss - and applaud - this move, as fans of architecture and especially with all of the unique looks that Saudi Arabia has to offer.  The hosts then get to the latest news, and discuss Telsa's market entry into Saudi Arabia, President Trump's Iftar dinner with HRH Princess Reema before the conclusion of Ramadan, and more.  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.    ©The TWENTY30. All rights reserved. 
In a landmark episode of The Twenty30 Podcast, co-hosts Lucien Zeigler and Dr. Hanaa Almoaibed sat down in person for an exclusive interview with Suliman Almazroua, CEO of Saudi Arabia’s National Industrial Development and Logistics Program (NIDLP), one of the 13 powerful ‘Vision Realization Programs’ identified as “the driving force behind Vision 2030.” A former Aramco executive with decades of experience at the intersection of technology and operations, Almazroua was tapped to lead NIDLP during a critical moment for Saudi Arabia’s industrial transformation. Under his leadership, NIDLP has made remarkable progress — with over half of its Vision 2030 targets already completed five years ahead of schedule.  The interview covers a wide spectrum — from Vision 2030 and sectoral innovation to workforce development and Saudi Arabia’s push toward private-sector competitiveness. Where once industries leaned heavily on government support, today, companies are being challenged to rise above, develop competitive strategies, and deliver real market value. NIDLP is helping drive this evolution, particularly in sectors like logistics, where Saudi Arabia is actively disrupting traditional global models and introducing new efficiencies. The hosts also ask Suliman about the development of some of key sectors under NIDLP’s administration, including mining, industrial development, logistics, Saudi supply chains, and AI - and how he views Saudi talent and capabilities as a critical component of both his current and future success with NIDLP. The interview is the first in an expansion of The TWENTY30 podcast to feature in-person, revealing conversations with the leaders and changemakers driving Saudi Arabia’s transformation forward. To watch the in-person interview, click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBLUbK8sF8Y 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
The Saudi-funded education organization 'Mawhiba' and its initiatives have a significant impact on young Saudi talent. The organization empowers young Saudis through STEM education and science competitions, including The Regeneron International Science and Engineering Fair (ISEF) 2025. Bright young Saudis will visit Columbus, Ohio to compete - and win - international recognition on May 10-16. ISEF is celebrating its 75th anniversary this year.  Mawhiba's success is part of a broader effort to advance Saudi education as part of Vision 2030 - one that's paying off. The hosts discuss the transformative changes in Saudi Arabia's education system, the rise of universities, and the empowerment of youth as future leaders.  After the DEEPDIVE on 'Mawhiba Capital', the hosts discuss the latest news, including: •Discussing fresh data on the tourism space in Saudi Arabia from the Future Hospitality Summit (FHS) •Reacting to the recent PIF/SCOPELY acquisition of the gaming division of Niantic, the company behind the popular mobile game Pokémon Go, for $3.5 billion •Highlighting a move by Saudi leadership, which approved the disbursement of over SR3 billion ($800 million) to social security beneficiaries over Ramadan. •Talking about the latest statement from Saudi authorities condemning the resumption of Israeli aggression on Gaza 📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com. The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.  ©The TWENTY30. All rights reserved. 
How far has Saudi come in the development of its entrepreneurship and tech ecosystem? Hussein Atar, a leading venture capitalist and tech influencer who has been on the ground floor of the movement in Saudi Arabia, discusses the significant progress and road ahead for Saudi Arabia's goals of becoming a global technology powerhouse. He shares his journey from being a tech startup founder to leading a venture capital fund, highlighting key milestones and government initiatives that have fostered entrepreneurship in the region. Hussein also talks about recent investments, the role of failure in the ecosystem, and the future outlook for tech startups in Saudi Arabia. The conversation provides insights into the challenges and opportunities in the burgeoning tech landscape of the Kingdom - both for entrepreneurs and investors.  Before the conversation and interview with Hussein, the hosts catch up and discuss some recent feedback on the show, before the conversation drifts off into an interesting non-sequitur regarding tattoos.  After the conversation, the hosts catch up on some of the latest news on Saudi Arabia.  About The TWENTY30 Podcast New futuristic cities built from scratch. Giga-projects. Major sports investments. Trillions in spending. An economy and society changing so quickly even locals sometimes can’t believe their eyes. Saudi Arabia is on a mission to change itself from a conservative society with an oil-dominated economy to a modern and open society with a diversified economy - and to become a global tourism destination. Such a transformation has never before been attempted, and the stakes for the Middle East - and the world - are high. The TWENTY30 is a new media network and podcast that explores the seemingly endless dimensions of the social and economic transformations in Saudi Arabia, which few living outside the Kingdom can truly grasp. From the creator and co-host of The 966 Podcast comes a new platform that tackles the news, issues, challenges, and opportunities in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East region as it continues forward in a full-throttle effort to remake itself while the world watches. Featuring exclusive interviews, frank conversations, and in-depth topic exploration, The TWENTY30 is the first bi-weekly English program of its kind dedicated to uncovering and highlighting the road ahead for Saudi Arabia and the region and why it matters.   📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts:   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206   Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com   📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com.   The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC.    ©The TWENTY30. All rights reserved. 
Well well well look who's back! In episode 45 of The TWENTY30, the hosts catch up at the start to talk about the start of Ramadan, leading to a discussion about how the month typically changes lives, working hours, and of course, dining habits for Saudis. After the hosts catch up from a short break, Hanaa leads a DEEPDIVE into Saudi Arabia's booming nonprofit sector, which is ahead of Vision 2030 targets and increasingly contributing to Saudi Arabia's GDP. A new report, "Prospects for the Non-Profit Sector 2025," prepared by the King Khalid Foundation, highlights that the sector has exceeded SR100 billion in economic contribution for the first time, a major milestone. The non-profit sector now contributes equivalent to 3.3 percent of Saudi GDP. After the DEEPDIVE, the host catch up on some of the latest news, including a row between PIF and PWC, AI in Saudi Arabia, Aramco's dividend, an expansion for the popular MDLBeast events company, and more.  📈 The TWENTY30 is the #1 podcast on Saudi Arabia in English. Subscribe for free wherever you get your podcasts: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetwenty30 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uuKNWrgbQPMBIx3XY6YGU Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty30/id1742574206 Get episodes and exclusive content delivered to your email inbox free: https://thetwenty30.com 📧 You can also email the show’s hosts with their first names (Lucien @TheTWENTY30.com) or (Hanaa @thetwenty30.com) or email Hosts @ TheTwenty30.com. The TWENTY30 Podcast is a production of The TWENTY30 Media Group, LLC. 
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